Judge fines Trump $2 million for misusing charity foundation

Steve Jobs and Bill Gates and Elon Musk were not born into wealthy families and gifted $1 billion to start their business.

it doesn’t matter they created things and whether if it’s electronics or Weatherford’s condos or mansions it doesn’t matter they have all grace the cover of magazines they have all spent billions of dollars and they have all created something. None of the House Democrats have done anything remotely close.

None of those went bankrupt six times taking the food off the tables of contractors who did not get paid for work done. None of those opened a fake university. None of those were accused of refusing to rent property to blacks. None of those had seedy relationships with porn stars.

they all had their own distinct share of problems, take your pick and they all have done great things as well as president and I personally don’t care what relationship you had before you became president, None of my business.

Bill Gates his using his generated wealth to better the lives of millions.

of coarse, he’s got billions what is he going to do with all of them. Lol

it’s all a tax write off for him.

All of them the elite and plundered from the people and as such, should not be admired nor encouraged.

Uh-oh...I detect more of that liberal socialism income redistribution talk.

Nope, all proven.

Not really, but that was in the past whatever it was and no one can change the past. JFK was elected and with that families scandals people didn’t seem to care either.

As myself and many others have shown here countless times.

As I have and other non-liberals as well.

And since you clearly don't comprehend what socialism

I do, my grandmother grew up under it.

He should be in jail

Based on allegations from Reid? Not going to happen.

Lucky kids, nothing wrong with that. Kennedy’s inherited it, so did the Bush’s and Chelsea Clinton’s kids from their foundation will inherit their share as well.

All of them the elite and plundered from the people and as such, should not be admired nor encouraged.

All debunked

Nope, all proven. As myself and many others have shown here countless times. With a multitude of links, citations, evidence and actual footage.

capitalism over socialism, yes

Here you go with the contradictions again. You're now celebrating the misdemeanors that you've just claimed were debunked.

And since you clearly don't comprehend what socialism is and how it works, the less said the better.

He and his cohorts have stolen from charity. Stolen from veterans. He should be in jail.

Inherited wealth,

Lucky kids, nothing wrong with that. Kennedy’s inherited it, so did the Bush’s and Chelsea Clinton’s kids from their foundation will inherit their share as well.

never having to fend for yourself, a career built on bigotry, scams, nepotism, misogyny and lies.

All debunked, but at the same time as a businessman you can read stories about Steve Jobs and Bill Gates and Elon musk in hundreds of people that have done absolute crazy things in the business professional career, nothing new.

Yes, I can see why that would appeal to his base.

capitalism over socialism, yes

I understand, I grew up admiring the man most of my life

Inherited wealth, never having to fend for yourself, a career built on bigotry, scams, nepotism, misogyny and lies.

Yes, I can see why that would appeal to his base.

Ok, so basically once again, the liberal media is throwing out allegations as facts and running with it. More Democrats unverified bull and considering the source.....Yup!

Over 14 thousand lies from Trump and yet you still are fixated with the man as some latter day messiah.

How many martyrs and saints pilfer from the poor box and intimidate their fellow men and women?

Scarpulla gave Trump credit for making good on his pledge to give $2.8 million of the money raised to veterans' organizations.

Yet he badmouths PTSD vets as 'weak' and gloats about using Guardsmen as his own private chessmen to put up barbed wire at the Rio Grande on a Thanksgiving Weekend, toiling unnecessarily for his egotistical selfish glory. He has a vendetta about the hero John McCain because he himself is a bone-spurs whiner and draft-dodger. He publicly lipped off about a Muslim officer who gave his life in duty during the Iraq War, and he shamed his Gold Star widow in public!

Trump has also publicly saluted a NK officer. He is not worthy to stand next to a military veteran. He abuses them and sasses off about them like the juvenile punk that he is. He is not worthy to give an address in NYC on this upcoming Veterans Day. Even the never-served-either Obama has more respect for the military than this Mussolini.

Giving $2.8 M to veterans' organizations doesn't even come close to making up for all the spitting, jack-slaps, kicks in the crotch and unnecessary endangerments that he gives the troops and veterans! Judge Scarpulia isn't punishing this thief nearly enough.

*reporter Caitlin Huey-Burns discusses Sen. Harry Reid calling Donald Trump a "cheater and a fraud" and allegations that Trump used money from one of his charities to settle a personal legal dispute with MSNBC's Steve Kornacki and The Hill WH correspondent Amy Parnes. "He is not worth nearly as much as he claims to be," Reid said.*

Ok, so basically once again, the liberal media is throwing out allegations as facts and running with it. More Democrats unverified bull and considering the source.....Yup!

This is a very important development, Trump caught red handed - stealing from a charity. A slap in the face for veterans. Complete contempt from the Trump family but the base won't allow for discussion. As usual, it must be turned about in order to smear anyone else but the criminals in charge.

Republicans: pro-slavery.

Democrats invented it.

Love that you don't deny that you and your party pro-slavery.

Not the typical debunked liberal rhetoric again?

Sorry, those are the facts. Trump is a racist sexist monster who gets excited by the thought of non-white children being torn from their parents and killed. So are his supporters. That's why they support him.

Republicans: pro-slavery.

Democrats invented it.

What? No way can someone expect to be taken seriously by claiming democrats invented slavery. Slavery was around long, long before Europeans "discovered" the Americas. Utter nonsense from someone that clearly is not engaged in the conversation in good faith.

There are a lot of things more disgusting, like making up a fake impeachment witch hunt.

Good thing it's a real impeachment proceeding because Donny broke a real crime.

Accomplishments like "once nearly didn't say something racist" or "went almost 24 hours without molesting someone". Kudos!

Not the typical debunked liberal rhetoric again? Come on, if the Dems did their job they’d be blown away by his over 280 accomplishments.

You're against PAYING people now?

To the government, Yup!

Well, so is Trump, I guess. Loves to hire people, get a service, then never pay them.

Sounds like Silicon Valley.....

Republicans: pro-slavery.

Democrats invented it.

No, but I do hate the liberal hyper partisans.

I dislike partisanship of any stripe. That’s why I find it appalling that people can’t bring themselves to the level of basic decency by agreeing rich people skimming from a charity is morally despicable.

Partisanship rots people’s judgement and morality.

But even more of about 280 on the fantastic list of accomplishments.

Accomplishments like "once nearly didn't say something racist" or "went almost 24 hours without molesting someone". Kudos!

So is income distribution.

You're against PAYING people now? Well, so is Trump, I guess. Loves to hire people, get a service, then never pay them. Republicans: pro-slavery.

So you respect the more independent minded Republicans who disagree with Trump? You seem to rip into them. 

I do.

I don’t get you on this point. Do you like people in lockstep or not? Is it like you disliking the idea of celebs speaking out on political matters unless they are for Trump?

No, but I do hate the liberal hyper partisans.

And stealing from charity is pretty low.

So is income distribution.

And that's just one bad thing on a long list of bad things he's done. 

But even more of about 280 on the fantastic list of accomplishments.

Will any Trumpist condemn him for this?

Ok, not good. There you go.

Impossible, liberals are the ones that created the “#metoo” movement, The PC culture, meltdowns of historic figures they don’t agree with, pushing us to use plastic straws, telling us what we can or what we cannot eat, or what we should watch or how we should watch it.

More gaslighting and an attempt, as usual, to deflect from the topic at hand.

It's come to a sad stage when trying to stand up against racism, sexual harassment and criminal regimes in Washington is painted as "PC".

Back on topic, do you condemn or condone stealing from a charity?

Seems to me Democrats are lemmings and in lockstep with what Nancy or AOC say. Doesn’t matter what it is, when they say “jump” they reply, “how high?”

So you respect the more independent minded Republicans who disagree with Trump? You seem to rip into them.

I don’t get you on this point. Do you like people in lockstep or not? Is it like you disliking the idea of celebs speaking out on political matters unless they are for Trump?

Hmmm, there are more things that are far, far more revolting.

And stealing from charity is pretty low. And that's just one bad thing on a long list of bad things he's done.

Will any Trumpist condemn him for this?

Trumpeteers are diving into the fascism pool at an amazing speed.

Impossible, liberals are the ones that created the “#metoo” movement, The PC culture, meltdowns of historic figures they don’t agree with, pushing us to use plastic straws, telling us what we can or what we cannot eat, or what we should watch or how we should watch it.

As an American I'm amazed at how warped certain "citizens" in our society have become. Well, not in a good way obviously. 

I second that.

It's simple... don't dip your hands in your "charity" till because it automatically becomes a SCAM. And once again, Trump was found GUILTY in a court of LAW of wrongdoing by misappropriating campaign finances. Doesn't matter that he admitted doing wrong, it matter's that he intentionally did wrong in the FIRST PLACE. It's called CORRUPTION. 

Washington has been and is one of the most corrupted institution in this country.

But Trumpeteers are fascists,

If that means not allowing liberals to dictate and force feed us their BS to take in as facts, then maybe.

so it doesn't matter to them at all.

What Democrats and especially the establishment swamp, no, it doesn’t matter.

As long as they can be ruled by a dictator they'll close their eyes and cover their ears to not see what they don't want to see, and not hear what they don't want to hear.

Seems to me Democrats are lemmings and in lockstep with what Nancy or AOC say. Doesn’t matter what it is, when they say “jump” they reply, “how high?”

Ideas about taxing the better-off to support the less well-off = bad.

Trump skimming money intended for the less well-off to support himself = no problem.

Gotcha.

It was a rhetorical question.

I know. I gave a real answer to that rhetorical question.

You needn't have bothered

But I wanted to

Besides, he only hires the best, right?

Nah, sometimes he makes mistakes. His biggest one was Jeff Sessions.

I think you forgot Tillertson, Cohn, Zink, McMaster, Mattis, Kelly, Preibus, Spicer, Manafort, Gates, Flynn, Papadapolous, and we cant forget Cohen....and Crazy Rudy - the "Walking Hand Grenade"....whew....

But just wait until Bolton drops a bomb on him - you may have to change your mind about Sessions...

But that wasn't anywhere near as big a mistake as Obama's first choice for Secretary of State.

I see she is still haunting your brain after three years...

zichiToday  11:44 am JST

Unusual for Trump to admit to any guilt especially when it costs him $2 million.

I almost wonder if he even has $2 million that he hasn't borrowed from a gangster or oligarch, or scammed some sucker out of.

bass4funkToday  11:02 am JST

Is that so. Why did he need to plunder his own charity, then?

What? Are...

It was a rhetorical question. You needn't have bothered with the other hundred or so lines, which I certainly can't be bothered to read.

Besides, he only hires the best, right?

Nah, sometimes he makes mistakes. His biggest one was Jeff Sessions.

But that wasn't anywhere near as big a mistake as Obama's first choice for Secretary of State.

The president admitted, among other things, to improperly arranging for the charity to pay $10,000 for a 6-foot portrait of him.

Oh so Trump. The man oozes crimnality, vanity and incompetence. He's an anti-matter King Midas, a man with a fork in a world of spoons, a chocolate teapot.

Wow, Donny is so rich that he has to skim money from a charity to cover his personal expenses.

Trumpeteers are diving into the fascism pool at an amazing speed. As an American I'm amazed at how warped certain "citizens" in our society have become. Well, not in a good way obviously.

It's simple... don't dip your hands in your "charity" till because it automatically becomes a SCAM. And once again, Trump was found GUILTY in a court of LAW of wrongdoing by misappropriating campaign finances. Doesn't matter that he admitted doing wrong, it matter's that he intentionally did wrong in the FIRST PLACE. It's called CORRUPTION.

But Trumpeteers are fascists, so it doesn't matter to them at all. As long as they can be ruled by a dictator they'll close their eyes and cover their ears to not see what they don't want to see, and not hear what they don't want to hear.

Revolting.

Hmmm, there are more things that are far, far more revolting.

Yes, that is leadership when you take personal responsibility for the mistakes of your staff.

Leadership is not doing something criminal in the first place - Donnie never learned that lesson...

Do you really think Trump was doing the accounting himself?

No, he can't count past eleven...

If so, he got his accounting degree from Trump University, because he didnt do very well.

True, when you've bankrupted six companies and lost over $1 Billion...you must be a Trump U grad...

Bottomline - LOSING.....

Is that so. Why did he need to plunder his own charity, then?

What? Are we going through the time machine again when he was a businessman? Look, I will say this, if you think that Trump did some funky business dealings before he got into office, he probably did, he is the quintessential poster of a successful businessman with ups and downs, now mirror that to the career politicians and all their dealings when it comes to political favors and deals, I don’t know if you’ve ever been to D.C., but it’s a small connected community where everyone knows everyone and the foreign money that runs through it and their prime real estates and new schools, shopping malls, if you were to dig deeper (that would ask for the media to do its job) Russians and Ukrainians would be the last thing on the Democrats minds and the swamp they swim in. The scandals would be so big, they would have to create a dedicated cable channel 24/7 just to cover all of them.

Yes, that is leadership when you take personal responsibility for the mistakes of your staff.

Do you really think Trump was doing the accounting himself? If so, he got his accounting degree from Trump University, because he didnt do very well.

I think he was careless and didnt have the correct accounting for how the money was used. Someone (an employee, not Trump) needed to keep personal funds and charity funds separate. They failed badly in this.

Maybe you need to read the article a little more closely...

*As part of those agreements, made public Thursday, Trump admitted personally misusing foundation funds. He and the attorney general's office further agreed to leave it up to the judge to decide what penalty he should pay.*

Note "Trump admitted personally" - no spinning to say this was some underling's fault.

Besides, he only hires the best, right?

Loser...

The president admitted, among other things, to improperly arranging for the charity to pay $10,000 for a 6-foot portrait of him. He also agreed to pay back $11,525 in foundation funds that he spent on sports memorabilia and champagne at a charity gala.

Fair enough. Meanwhile...

Most Americans are benefiting financially and otherwise from Trump's economic policies as more people are getting jobs in the booming economy, their 401Ks are rising and fewer are on welfare and food stamps.

All in all...

Trump 2020 all the way!

I answered it. When you are billionaire, I am quite sure that $10,000 doesnt even register with you.

An employee was responsible for handling this and didnt. You act like this was his only source of income and he stole it or something. An employee didnt keep personal funds and charity funds separate.

Now do the Clinton Foundation. Should they have accepted all that money from Russia and Ukraine?

Incredible.

You ask a simple question - is it wrong to skim money off a charity and you can’t get an answer.

Moral degradation. It has seeped into the bones.

Revolting.

Plus as a result of this, charities get more money.

great! Unless we are impeaching him for this too?

I think he was careless and didnt have the correct accounting for how the money was used. Someone (an employee, not Trump) needed to keep personal funds and charity funds separate. They failed badly in this.

Basically this is great and makes up for the 2 million that was misused:

Trump Foundation lawyer Alan Futerfas said the nonprofit has distributed approximately $19 million over the past decade, including $8.25 million of the president's own money, to hundreds of charitable organizations

bass4funkToday  09:41 am JST

$2 million?? For Trump that’s Chump change, probably a typical shopping shop Tiffany’s sale day for him.

Is that so. Why did he need to plunder his own charity, then?

Surely the issue is morality here.

I really don’t want to hear that word from liberals, really.

Skimming money of a charity for your own use is foul. The fact that he’s rich makes it even more deplorable. 

Then you must really hate deplorable Democrats.

Disgusting behaviour. Surely you aren’t defending this?

There are a lot of things more disgusting, like making up a fake impeachment witch hunt.

$2 million?? For Trump that’s Chump change, probably a typical shopping shop Tiffany’s sale day for him.

Surely the issue is morality here. Skimming money of a charity for your own use is foul. The fact that he’s rich makes it even more deplorable.

Disgusting behaviour. Surely you aren’t defending this?

But fortunately the $3.7 million from Trump's charities will be nice.

Good for them.

And now his use of a charity as his own private piggy bank is cut off.

Darn it, Trump can’t withdraw any money anymore! ROFL!

But fortunately the $3.7 million from Trump's charities will be nice.

And now his use of a charity as his own private piggy bank is cut off.

$2 million?? For Trump that’s Chump change, probably a typical shopping shop Tiffany’s sale day for him.

Tax returns up next.

No, SC is next.

Asking Barr to hold a news conference clearing him of any wrong doings over Ukrainegate.

What? Lol

Likely just the tip of the iceberg when it comes to fraud and corruption with the cesspool that is Trump-world.

The SDNY Attorney will go after the Trump Crime Family just like any other organized crime organization.

Investigate them all...

Deplorable

Amazing that he is not facing a criminal charge for embezzling charitable funds. A rich man who can't resist taking funds designed for the poor.

He's a disgrace to his position and his country.

In most countries this would at the least be a resigning matter.

Hiring only the "best people" .... but as we've learned, "best" is highly subjective and President Trump's idea about "best" is completely different from the rest of human kind. Or at least 99.9999% of us.

How is this not a criminal thing? This seems to go beyond an oops. This was just an out-and-out scam.

Only Trump would use a charitable foundation as a scam mechanism. Bill Gates and Warren Buffet have given tens of billions of dollars to legitimate charities through the Gates Foundation and are actively involved in curing diseases, cleaning drinking water, etc. It should be noted that they're both Democrats.

Two million?

No need to impeach him, he's bankrupt!

to further his political and business interests.

Just like he's using the White House. Corrupt businessman, corrupt politician. Leopards and spots. The Trump thugocracy will go down in history as one of the most corrupt - ever. How many of his goons are in jail? How many soon to join them?

All those billions and he couldn't resist pocketing charity money. Some people are just born as scum.

Alleged billions.

All those billions and he couldn't resist pocketing charity money. Some people are just born as scum.

The judge: Trump improperly used his charity and its funds for personal and political gains

Trump: the judge "recognized that every penny ever raised by the Trump Foundation has gone to help those most in need."

These people really are bold, they regularly claim the exact opposite of reality. Most of us aren’t too stupid to see reality for his lies, but if the past four years has shown us anything it’s that his followers are stupid enough to believe anything he says without question.

The president admitted, among other things, to improperly arranging for the charity to pay $10,000 for a 6-foot portrait of him. 

Probably one of those velvet "dogs playing cards" kind of portraits I'll bet!

Further evidence, as if we needed it, of Donny's corruption. But, I'm sure you're correct, Trumpophiles, that Donny's corruption ended the day he was sworn in as president. You people are utter morons or willfully blind.