Judge permanently blocks Trump sanctuary cities order

No he didn’t. He made his own previous temporary ruling “permanent”. He is no where close to being a person who can make this policy permanent.

All this WINNING is getting tiresome

Let's hear it for T H R E E branches of government -- well done, Founding Fathers!

Let's not lose sight of the fact that the real madness here is that some cities in America can order their police and officials to ignore the enforcement of federal law. It's crazy.

Even if you agree with doing this for federal immigration law, just imagine if some city in Mississippi declared itself a sanctuary from the 1964 civil rights act and then started resegregating its schools, or stood by as lunch counters were segregated. Not such a great idea anymore, is it?

M3M3M3、sometimes ya gotta fight, and what you're fighting for matters. Many areas did resist the civil rights act, and you'll recall armed troops called in to enforce desegregation. Few would argue that the federal government at that time was wrong to take such drastic steps (though, ironically, those who would argue against it at the same time tend to be Trump supporters).

If Trump feels he's on the right side of history, he has the ability to escalate matters. We'll see how strongly he truly feels about this issue.

Nothing is permanent.

M3M3M3、sometimes ya gotta fight, and what you're fighting for matters.

But they aren't fighting, that's the point. They law is entirely on their side. It's the federal government doing the fighting.

If Trump feels he's on the right side of history, he has the ability to escalate matters. We'll see how strongly he truly feels about this issue.

And that is the madness of the situation; the fact that enforcement of the law depends on whether the federal government arbitrarily decides to send in the national guard. At some point you have to start asking yourself whether you actually have a country.

I believe in democracy so I have no problem with the idea of sanctuary cities/states if that's what the people want, but then the people in neighbouring states should have the right to set up separate border checks, work permits and passport controls to counteract the negative effects of living next to a sanctuary city/state. Federal law obviously doesn't allow this.. yet.

The Grand Wizard of Justice, Jeff Sessions, must be steaming mad. If you can't persecute the poorest of the poor what is life about, poor Jeff.

Two courts have now reaffirmed that the United States is a nation of laws. It is shocking that the Attorney General of the United States must be reminded of this over and over again.

and yet the Supreme Court will overturn this same liberal activist judge once again.

Wouldnt get too excited about his decision, it wont last long.

Donald, Jeff - you've been Orrick rolled.

A sliver of hope to bring America back from the brink.

No he didn’t. He made his own previous temporary ruling “permanent”. He is no where close to being a person who can make this policy permanent.

Trump doesn’t need to care. Can’t wait until this gets to the Supreme Court where the judges there will put all of this to rest.

Another loss.

bass4funk: "Can’t wait until this gets to the Supreme Court where the judges there will put all of this to rest."

So, you can't wait until the US becomes like Communist China. Makes sense... you guys are already helping to make it better, starting with all Trump's "Make America Great Again" being made their, as well as his family's goods, and ending with him bending over for Xi during Trump's Asia tour.

In any case, good on the judge. Pretty clear no one wants what Trump does.

Cant federal force just declare martial law and take over those cities? They are clearly ignoring federal gov...

I am enjoying this ridiculous stance in US, where you have no problems with illegal immigrants breaking laws and are not deported ... ,what does bother me is you and UN have the balls to tell other countries what to do with their immigration policy and how crazy is your "security" theatre is....

Established law? The nonexistent law that says states can ignore any federal laws or executive orders whenever they feel like it?

they are clearly ignoring federal gov...

Which is also clearly defined in the law. Never heard of the system of checks and balances?

states can ignore any federal laws or executive orders whenever they feel like it?

Is it illegal?

Alex: They are clearly ignoring federal gov...

Sanctuary cities isn't a black and white issue.

At the heart of the matter is that the federal government wants local police forces to arrest and detain illegal immigrants when 1) they aren't trained to do that and 2) they don't have the resources to do that. Cities are pushing back on the federal government by telling them to do their own jobs.

On top of that, adding immigration enforcement to the table complicates things for local governments. People are less willing to call the police or come forward if there is a chance the police will check their immigration status and detain them, so they find themselves in an information black hole that makes life more difficult. They end up calling 911 less for medical emergencies if they think their status might come into play. Lots of issues like that pop up that cities have no interest or resources to deal with all of that just so they can do the fed's job for them.

If you live in the conservative world, this is all news to you. The argument is exclusively framed as "they don't care about the law" or the more recent manufactured position of "they want the illegals there so they can get their votes (even though they can't vote)." By removing the legitimate arguments for sanctuary cities from the conversation, their base is left to conclude that something bad must be going on by the dreaded liberals.

The Democrats have always been big defenders of States Rights - when it suits there ideological agenda

On top of that, adding immigration enforcement to the table complicates things for local governments. People are less willing to call the police or come forward if there is a chance the police will check their immigration status and detain them

Fair enough, but doesn't this also apply to all sorts of people who have outstanding warrants, have skipped bail, have failed to appear in court for some reason, or are wanted for questioning? What other federal crimes should the police be instructed to overlook in order to solve only the most serious of crimes? It seems like a very slippery slope.

Is it illegal?

If a Dem judge says so - the law is whatever. Remember the Dred Scott decision? The law is whatever a judge can get away with - not what the people’s representatives or the Constitution says it is.

Sanctuary cities isn't a black and white issue.

A person residing in the country that isn’t legally approved to do so is about as black and white as it gets.

On top of that, adding immigration enforcement to the table complicates things for local governments. 

This a ridiculous argument. Local law enforcement work with the Feds all the time on issues they are not intended to do or are trained to do. Terrorism is a good example. They could train to help with immigration as well, and some communites do. This is just a lame excuse for their politics. And to say that one law should not be enforced so that cooperation can be gained to enforce others is frankly idiotic. This rule could be applied to any group of law breakers as an excuse to evades enforcing laws against a favored group of people.

Dems just simply want to flood the country with people from third world nations that will eventually overwhelm native Americans who believe in individual rights and the balance between liberty and equality ethos of Americanism. There is also a racial component as well to this. Reading the Lefts own pronouncements on the issue reveals that only way to overcome the hated whites who they believe are inherently oppressive is to replace them with the morally superior non-white.

This is just a lame excuse for their politics. 

Nope.

Dems just simply want to flood the country with people from third world nations that will eventually overwhelm native Americans who believe in individual rights and the balance between liberty and equality ethos of Americanism.

See what I mean? The left needs to wake up to the nutball theories floating around on the right. Some of them actually believe it. This isn't about debating policy, the right believes the left is out Tom destroy the country.

The nonexistent law

the constitution doesn’t exist?

apparently not for the US ultra liberals... just like all white men are evil and all that idiotism they keep spewing

If a Dem judge says so

Republican appointed Roberts upheld ObamaCare. And health costs are going up under Trump.

Dems just simply want to flood the country with people from third world nations

Then why did Reagan ink 3 million for green card amnesty? The average FOX viewer was around 40 when that happened so they should remember that well. That's on the Republicans.