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By MICHAEL R. SISAK NEW YORK©2023 GPlusMedia Inc.
124 Comments
TaiwanIsNotChina
Of course he did. This is what happens when you idolize someone with clearly no ethical foundation.
TaiwanIsNotChina
Also don't forget defrauding the government.
2020hindsights
Not surprising. There were articles written about how he used one set of number for loans and another set for investors.
EFD
BOOM! Justice!
As a matter of law, this is a legal matter of fact.
This is a VERY high bar to clear and is highly unlikely to be overturned on appeal.
And the judge unceremoniously rescinded the business license of Trump org.
In addition, the judge ordered sanctions against Trump’s attorneys for filing frivolous motions with no likelihood of success just to delay the process. While the fines are nominal ($7,500) but the blemish on their professional records is permanent.
dagon
Tri-State Action News at 11, 1986.
Why Trump was not jailed in the 80s or 90s, sparing the USA all the MAGA drama, like his NYC compatriot Leona Helmsley, is a mystery to me. Like Trump she candidly remarked; "Taxes are for the little people."
Along with the other oligarchs in the Pandora and Panama Papers , Trump should be the poster boy for closing tax loopholes, confiscating oligarch assets, creating more progressive taxation schemes, and creating societies of more broad-based prosperity that could still be capitalist in the short term but where capitalism would not start at zero for the 99% not gifted with inherited rentier assets.
EFD
This is the end of Trump Org.
Better buy some merch, goobers. Daddy has hundreds of millions of dollars in fines coming and he hasn’t got the cash to pay, lol.
lincolnman
The Ultra MAGA Loser losing again...if you count all the election fraud cases he's lost, civil suits, etc., he must be over 100 lost legal cases...
And this Loser has spent over $100 million of his supporters money on lawyers - and what did he/they get? Nothing - just more losing...
And the big losses are yet to come - with the mountains of evidence Jack Smith and Fani Willis have, and the number of his aides and cohorts that have flipped and will testify against him, the MAGA-warriors here better be prepared for more losing...and jail...
PTownsend
I have no doubt his luxury spread is worth lots of money, yet still ex-45 has to rely on telescamgelist tactics to get his armies of drones and cultists to pay for his lifestyle and legal fees. And most of his supporters continue to refuse to see that the convicted sex offender has done nothing to help them, excluding those already wealthy i.e. the ones Florida male has made even wealthier through his and his fellow RICO politician's taxcuts for the richest policies.
Superlib
The MAGA fans will have to write a lot of checks to cover this for him.
Wick's pencil
They really are desperately trying to get him out of the next election. Scary to see how weaponized the US justice system has become.
Peter Neil
Humpty Trumpty built no wall.
Humpty Trumpty had a great fall.
All the MAGA clowns and all the cult men
Couldn't put Trumpty together again.
yamada1043
Donald J. Trump is the most notorious scammers in the history of the United States of America.
EFD
I see a new batch of NFT (New Fraud Trump!) on the horizon, lol.
Street-sleeper Trump.
Park bench Trump.
Multi-level Marketer Trump. Oh wait, he’s forbidden from doing business in NY now….
theResident
Sadly, most of the charges against will come to nothing, but this one was an obvious one and well documented for many years.
Yubaru
Too bad it's only a civil case!
Simon Foston
Wick's pencil
Today 07:24 am JST
Damn those politically motivated judges, right? You would never get a result like this with a conservative judge elected by GOP supporters, would you.
EFD
It can be rolled over into a criminal case although I am not sure it will be.
But just as Carole’s civil judgement is a civil finding of sexual assault (commonly known as “rape”), this finding tells is a ibis finding of the blatantly obvious: Trump is a thief and a fraudster.
Jimizo
Looks like more financial problems.
Donations needed. Give generously.
Peter Neil
Were on the way to a cascading chorus of “Guilty, Guilty, Guilty…” over the next six months.
I don’t see any way Humpty Trumpty is on the ballot next year, even from his jail cell.
lincolnman
It's clear that as he loses more legal cases, and he sees more of the evidence in his upcoming criminal trials, Trump is getting desperate...
He's looking even more haggard and unkept - in his Face the Nation appearance a week ago he looked especially bad - bags under his eyes, hair even more disheveled...
And the gaffes keep mounting....besides confusing Obama for Biden and then saying Biden would start WW II, he's now ranting on X about whales...
The former president raged during a campaign speech in South Carolina that “windmills” are driving whales “crazy.” “Windmills are causing whales to die in numbers never seen before. Nobody does anything about that,” he declared. “They’re driving the whales, I think, a little batty,” he said.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-rant-batty-whales-windmills-100643700.html
What's clear is that Jack Smith and Fani Willis are driving Trump beyond "batty"....
ROFL...
Peter Neil
It’s a devastating blow. Every business entity tied in any way to Trumpty has its business license revoked in the state of NY, where most of his assets are. They all have to be dissolved.
I can’t wait to see Bass’s take, can you? It will be comedy gold.
sunfunbun
For all the MAGA defenders of Trump, this is the reality of guilt found on charges, judged legally. It shows how Trump is deceptive in his business, and, of course, it is the base of who he is and why he was so popular with the MAGA crowd. And why more sane people realize he was always a liar, leading those who want to be and believe in liars.
He was viewed by many as the great businessman with such smarts, as his fans believed all his lies were not based on any findings of non legalities. They believed he earned all his money and he did nothing illegally, nor was not gaslighting people or being a snake oil salesman.
This ruling definitively shows how Trump deceived. One of his go to moves: Overvalue his properties to gain more loans/undervalue so he didn't pay fair taxes. He got caught, and it's just the small snowball beginning to roll downhill, soon to become a snow boulder.
ClippetyClop
It's always been scary for habitual criminals. Would you prefer that his massive fraud go unpunished?
You don't need to answer that, we know.
Strangerland
This seems to me to disprove the idea that he was a good businessman, which was what so many of the right in America claimed was his qualification for being president.
Am I mistaken?
Superlib
Add this to the list of Trump's civil lawsuit woes. He was sued and found liable for discrimination against blacks in housing, his can't run charities anymore because he was found liable for stealing from his own charity, he was found liable for sexual assault and we're waiting for the payment amount, his company was found liable for tax fraud, and now found liable for inflating his property values with fines upwards of $250 million.
And he's the face of the GOP.
Simon Foston
SuperlibToday 07:57 am JST
Doesn't matter what he's accused or found guilty of, his supporters will still dismiss it all as "the swamp" or "the establishment" being out to get him.
Says more about the party than it does about the man.
wallace
We all know Trump is a fraud and fake.
EFD
Who hasn’t inflated the square footage of the penthouse they’ve owned for decades by 3 times?
That totally seems like the kind of honest mistake a professional real estate developer would make, lol.
Jimizo
I must admit you can see the attraction. No need to judge things on their own merits. One size fits all - Deep state, weaponized judicial system, MSM, Soros etc.
It does save time.
Superlib
My favorite is Mar a Lago valued at $730 million on his financial statements. The county valued it at less than $30 million.
EFD
The assets are going into receivership for liquidation.
Delicious!
Simon Foston
JimizoToday 08:12 am JST
If that argument doesn't wash there is always "he's a businessman, it's just what they're all doing" line of defence.
I sometimes think his online supporters could take an occasional day off, it's pretty easy to write their comments for them.
theFu
When he visits a bank for a loan, his properties are worth 10x more than they really are. When the tax man comes, his properties magically are worth 1/10th their real value.
Odd how that happens. Really odd. Fraud. That's the term. Yep.
bass4funk
Trying to see how the desperate attempts of Dems going after Trump’s business history and how it relates to his Presidency, just odd. Why not just go back to his school days and find something there, these people. Leave it to NY. Lol
Yes, maybe you don’t know this, but of history for you, when allegations of Clinton’s affairs game out and when the Republicans impeached him for perjury, his supporters still rallied around him and supporters him. Most people that favor a politician could care less what people do in their private lives. We care more how you run the country, so no need to bail on the guy.
It absolutely does and that’s a good thing.
Many, yes. Particularly in NYC
Not unless you have a political agenda.
lincolnman
I think he added in the value of all the sensitive SCI, Top Secret, and other highly classified documents stored in the bathroom - and the money he could get by selling them to Putin, Xi, and The Mullahs...
Superlib
The ruling is a hilarious read:
https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/23991865/trump-ny-fraud-ruling.pdf
"As the court has noted ad nauseum," (italics theirs)
"In opposition, defendants absurdly suggest..."
"As has been explained to the defendants many times, in many legal proceedings, and in painstaking detail..."
"This is a fantasy world, not the real world."
"The defenses Donald Trump attempts to articulate in his sworn deposition are wholly without basic in law or fact."
Desert Tortoise
Priceless.
Desert Tortoise
Oh but wait, according to some it is all a grand plot to get him. Lol.
Desert Tortoise
Brutal.
wallace
Trump built his life on fraud.
lincolnman
Fails to see that Trump lying about his business record and committing tax fraud in 2016 is no different from George Santos lying about his work and academic record to get elected in 2022...
Two of a kind...
Glad to see you agree...
Especially when next year that face is wearing an orange jumpsuit and serving a sentence of 10-to-20 at Leavenworth...
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wallace
bass4funk
Why? It has been explained to you numerous times and that affair is transparent and available online. Biden only owns two homes.
gokai_wo_maneku
How could the bankers be so easily fooled? This makes them look bad as well.
wallace
Trump inflates himself.
Simon Foston
bass4funkToday 08:26 am JST
Assume that I do.
bass4funk
Which have nothing to do with Presidency and if that’s all the Dems have then Trump can really breathe a sigh of relief
Two of a kind...
Hence, the public’s disdain for career politicians and embracing more populist candidates
Not going to happen, even the Dems know that.
Dems unsuccessfully try and resuscitate Biden
Desert Tortoise
Not so different from the liars loans for home mortgages that led to the 2008 Great Recession/Depression. Banks make their money lending money then packaging the loans into a security then can sell. In general they should do their due diligence and make sure the asset being offered as collateral is accurately valued but when you have a larger than life persona like Donald Trump a bank tends to cater to them rather than question them. Now they look like chumps.
u_s__reamer
The finding that the Trump crime family specialized in and operated on fraud for years must have been the easiest one he ever made in all his years on the bench - no law degree needed to figure out that no brainer. If only Trump hadn't descended down that faux gold escalator...After this sucker punch to Trump's New York real estate empire, he's going to need a new grift... faux gold coins with his mugshot?
bass4funk
You “assume” a lot about the US. Lol
You mean, for his daughters private business that had nothing to do with administration? Yea, the Dems tried that and absolutely nothing that’s why the libs aren’t talking about it.
yipyip
Looking forward to voting for him.
wallace
Jared Kushner and Ivanka Trump reported between $172 million and $640 million in outside income while working in the White House, according to an analysis of financial disclosures by CREW.
Jared Kushner received $2 billion from Saudi.
Superlib
Better send in 2 checks just to be safe. Dip into that savings a little.
yipyip
It costs $0 to vote Republican.
For Democrats, it's a different story.
EFD
The big takeaway (apart from the fact that Trump is a criminal of course) is that he objectively SUCKS at business.
Given, yes given, a profitable if unsexy business by his father, Don the Con systematically flushed it down the toilet (maybe that’s why it’s always clogged…)
He over paid for assets like the Park Hotel. He bought profitable businesses like the NY-DC shuttle routes from Eastern and instead of upgrading the fuel inefficient planes, coated them in gold (because that’s what business travelers want, right?)
He opened THREE casinos in a city already awash in them, founded on junk bonds, and created a cash obligation on debt service alone that was totally unsustainable.
His golf courses don’t make money. And his “brand” is now so toxic that nobody will put his. Age or face on anything other than toilet paper.
And he covered it up through fraud. He lied on the loan papers. He lied on his taxes. That is how the Trump “Organization” has muddled through.
And if that were the end of it, it wouldn’t be that big a deal. Nobody is crying for poor Duetche Bank.
But because the state of NY didn’t hold him to account earlier, he created this alternative reality of a successful businessman that gave him credit with unsophisticated rubes and allowed him to do to the United States what he did to daddy’s business; namely to run it into a ditch.
True to form, he ran the government like his business. He ran up a pile of debt, more than all 44 of his predecessors COMBINED. Through a mixture of indifference and stupidity, he bungled the greatest public health crisis in 100 years. And he tried to cover it up with give always to the very people who could have held him to account.
And then he tried to overthrow the government, but that’s a story all its own.
His entire origin story is bovine feces. I have known this since 1990 and his first in a series of bankruptcies.
And now comes the reckoning. Both for him AND his enabling cult of a political “party”.
Keepyer Internetpoints
I cannot believe I am the first to upvote this comment.
We all know the man is a fraudster. It was obvious for decades. But the timing of all this is completely transparent. Why now? Why charge after charge and claim after claim now? Its obvious!
How much do I care? Well not much since ALL the major players in Washington are FAR more corrupt than these things Trump is being charged with. And knowing that is why Trump in 2016 and may well again in 2024. The establishment is bucking for rebellion in going after Trump like this. It seems Jan. 6 taught them nothing!
Hmmm....or maybe they have a plan? Because using a rebellion to grab even MORE power is not unheard of.
Bob Fosse
“James, who campaigned for office as a Trump critic and watchdog, started scrutinizing his business practices in March 2019”
Investigations take time. Who was President in March 2019?
lincolnman
Two lying frauds - both under criminal indictment....though Trump has four compared to Santo's one..."winning"...
AOC?
Bill Barr and Jonathan Turley know it.....ROFL..
But really, save yourself all the pain and humiliation when the jail sentences come down - just admit he's "toast" now, as Barr and Turley have both said...
Yubaru
And all along the MAGA followers will keep drinking the kool-aid and paying his lawyer bills!
When are people going to wake up about Trump?
4Tno
Do you actually think this will have any effect on the Teflon Don? No matter how many times you try to attack 45, you won't bring him down. MAGA!
Ah_so
Fraud is fraud, Bass. He's got to pay.
If this was so political, Trump should have requested a jury trial rather than opting for the judge alone to rule.
lostrune2
This is what moguls do
Why do people think he doesn't lie
Desert Tortoise
Why does anyone ever believe any fast talking sales puke? Hucksters and con men abound and always have. Gullible souls fall for their song and dance all the time. Look at the unthinking brand loyalties people have. Ask why anyone would read the National Enquirer much less believe a word printed therein? He says things certain people want to hear. It somehow validates some way of thinking they have. It doesn't have to be right or even honest if it validates some feeling of theirs.
Strangerland
This quote sounds more like something a Russian propaganda agent would say than a true MAGA, but regardless, this one most definitely will bring him out of New York, for which I'm sure the people of New York will be appreciative.
Superlib
This. Trump gives them something they're lacking and they'll follow him to he'll to keep getting that drug.
bass4funk
I try to avoid lib tabloid sites
And he's also the smartest man ever to have graced the halls of Congress within the last century...
Superlib
*hell
EFD
Like “Mamsaywhat” which you previously used as “proof”?
LOL.
wtfjapan
They really are desperately trying to get him out of the next election. Scary to see how weaponized the US justice system has become.
typical MAGA talking point, get this they were investigating Trump back during SC Mueller, no indictments were brought against Trump because as Mueller stated you cant indict a sitting president. Investigations went into full swing the day Trump left office.
So to all the maga genius out there, how can they weaponize a justice system when Trump hadnt even announced hed running for reelection in 2024. The only reason Trump decided to run again is hes hoping a 2nd term will protect him from prosecution
bass4funk
Menendez?
Career socialist
https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2023/08/17/unlikely-trump-will-go-to-prison/70602388007/
Hardly
I think you should tell yourself that. Lol
Zaphod
Using the justice system to silence a leading political candidate is 3rd world stuff.
Strangerland
A two-tiered justice system where politicians are exempt from the law is 3rd world stuff.
Sorry, was I not supposed to say the quiet part out loud?
wtfjapan
so where all the , " Never going to happen", crew. LOL
the criminal trials havent even started yet. Trump has lost both civil trials so far. So much winning, oops whining
wtfjapan
Why does anyone ever believe any fast talking sales puke?
Trump was originally a democrat then he realized that republicans are far easier to grift.
Trump loves the uneducated
wtfjapan
Using the justice system to silence a leading political candidate is 3rd world stuff.
they were investigating Trump long before he decided to run again and be a political opponent.
Dont let the facts get in your way
Strangerland
One has to wonder if Trump is going to end up unable to pay his legal penalties to E. Jean Caroll and whomever else comes along, now that he has no business. Like Rudy Guilliani.
wtfjapan
AOC?
Boobbert
Margery Traitor Green
lincolnman
Sure - all three are lying frauds - send them all to jail...let them all share a cell at Leavenworth...
But you said progressives are being elected over the career politicians?
Yes, we understand it's hard for you to take....
*Former U.S. Attorney General William Barr on Sunday defended Special Counsel Jack Smith's 37-count indictment against Donald Trump on Sunday, saying if the allegations the former president willfully retained hundreds of highly classified documents are proven true, then *"he's toast."
*It is an extremely damning indictment**, Turley, a conservative jurist and the Shapiro Professor of Public Interest Law at George Washington University, said.*
I think you should have told that to yourself in 2020....and saved yourself two years of humiliation...LOL...
Desert Tortoise
He should have gone to jail in 2015 but the trial ended in a hung jury and a mistrial. Hopefully the prosecutors do a better job this time around and put the sob and his old lady in jail for a good long time.
wtfjapan
I try to avoid lib **tabloid sites**
one of the reasons why MAGA really dont understand the legal peril that Trump is in .
For all things legal relating to DJT go to https://www.youtube.com/@MeidasTouch/videos Actual lawyers reporting the facts about Trumps legal woes.
Desert Tortoise
There was a joke that then President Obama made about him at a National Press Club banquet that set Mr. Trump off.
Mr. Obama faked that he was finishing his speech before doing an about-face and proceeded to say, "Nah. I'm just kidding you. You know I’ve got to talk about Trump. Come on."
"I am a little hurt that he’s not here tonight. It’s surprising. You got a room full of reporters, celebrities, cameras, and he says no."
He added, "Is this dinner too tacky for the Donald?"
Mr. Obama said he wished Trump attended, mainly because the real estate tycoon knows a lot about shutting down waterfront properties, which would come in handy when it comes to closing the military prison at Guantanamo Bay.
Donald Trump never forgives or forgets being made fun of.
TokyoLiving
LOOOOOL !!!
GO TRUMP !!..
bass4funk
Civil is a bit different. Even if the Dems could "hypothetically" put Trump in prison, he would be pardoned by his replacement, DeSantis or Vivek, either way, it wouldn't be long.
finally rich
I'm very disappointed with the Democrats.
They had 4 YEARS to find someone competent for 2024.
So many young, sharp, thirsty people.
But they prefer to offer us literally the worst president of USA history, the same guy who broke Obama's record for most votes ever cast.
Are these people out of their mind?
Forget Trump ever existed and be frank.
Do you honestly want 4 more years of Biden?
Or someone else in the party?
Or even another Republican?
Anyway, tuning in for Vivek tomorrow.
Can't stomach a single minute of Biden's weekly gaffes anymore.
konjo4u
He wanted to build a tower in Moscow. That deal never happened. Now we know what they knew all along.
bass4funk
For lying? That would be half of Congress then.
Progressive career politicians
No, you're just over-zealous as usual, leave the TDS aside.
Barr is a career political swamp rat, he can have his opinion
However, multiplying the indictments does not necessarily increase the changes of imprisonment before the election, or even during a possible second Trump term.
-Turley
No humiliation. Continuous left failures since 2015
Peter Neil
Half are under the median IQ?
bass4funkToday 10:21 am JST
Oh, come on. Everyone knows a president cannot pardon convicted state felons.
plasticmonkey
Trump didn't know that when he made him AG?
bass4funk
Hmmm, the Dems say a lot and still never cared about the law, we shall see,
The AG didn't know how serious Trump was when he meant drain the swamp.
Biden voters?
Really!
JRO
Although every sane person always knew he kept himself up with fraud and lies, even if that wasn't true he wouldn't be seen as a good business man. Every business he started on his own has been a failure, if he just kept the buildings and business that was passed down to him without touching it he would be richer today.
The only real success he has had business wise is basically the church of trump, getting poor and misinformed people to give away the little money they have for a fake cause.
wallace
The jury found what Donald Trump did to E. Jean Carroll was in fact rape. Now business fraud.
bass4funk
No, but the left sure is.
Non- politician, outsider, not a socialist.
I'm always calm, thanks for the concern
Good question, why did Obama pick Joe Biden? Geez!
But less likely to spend time in prison
Nothing to admit.
finally rich
Many 1000s of angry comments to come for the next 13 months.
Won't change the outcome of the election that has been already decided at this point though.
Dems had 4 years.... the showdown of the century, yet they insisted on giving us the most popular and worst president of US history.
EFD
The flailing of his cult is a laugh riot. Next it will be “But what about the Limburg baby?”
As for Bob Menendez, he’s a goner, as of this moment 23 Democratic Senators calling on him to resign. (He really should have taken the win on the hung jury and lived as clean as new fallen snow… go figure).
But who is coming to Bob’s defense? None other than “My Kevin “ and George “It was just a hobby” Santos.That’s the difference between Team Sanity and Team Treason: we don’t tolerate gross corruption in our own party. They dump for it as a way of deflecting the rampant corruption in their own.
1glenn
He is a scumbag.
EFD
When this is over, Stupid Gordon Gecko is going to be so poor he will be hitting up Rudy for a loan, lol.
bass4funk
The Dems desperate attempt at trying to get this guy unsuccessfully is funnier.
That goes without saying.
Funny, the party still supports the Clinton's, the squad, Menendez for many years, I think this is the 3rd time, Pelosi, what on earth are you talking about? Lol! You guys will definitely stand with gross corruption.
The Democrats no different. Funny how when something explosive on Biden comes out, Trump gets hit with another indictment every single time. Deflection? Hmmm...
EFD
Come on now. That’s insulting to scumbags.
Scumbags CONTAIN scum. Trump spreads scum like a disease.
bass4funk
I think the definition said: Democrat, not sure if that's Latin or Greek
lincolnman
According to your previous post, you've just admitted to being a leftist...
But convicted felon OK...LOL...
Relax...it's just four indictments and 91 charges...
So Trump screwed up?
He didn't say that...
Unadmitted...as in failure to see reality....
EFD
Womp Womp, ass.
Pretty “weak sauce” as the judges say.
Your boi is a fraud as well as a criminal.
His “Organization” has been put into receivership.
His entire origin fable has been exposed as a lie.
These are the facts. They are not in doubt.But tell us all about Hunter Biden’s laptop again and the whistleblower who’s a fugitive from justice.
I could use a good giggle.
wtfjapan
I think the definition said: **Democrat, not sure if that's Latin or Greek**
whataboutism wont save Trump
bass4funk
In your wildest fantasy dreams
Joe?
And that’s why I’m relaxed, I thought it was serious.
He’s human.
Yes, he did, numerous times.
Liberals? I’ll be praying for them.
Nor the Democrats
wtfjapan
Funny how when something explosive on Biden comes out
explosive what? republicans have got nothing, even a number of republicans in the house have stated that the impeachment is a waste of time, they dont have the votes or the evidence.
No dont give me the Hunter excuse, if hes broken laws indict him, let the DOJ convict him if they've got the evidence.
Next up Jarred Kushner 2billion deal with the Saudis days after Trump left office. Id love to know what he sold for that deal since he has 0 experience as an investment broker
Cards fan
Nope. Donald's just a crook.
The GOP has nothing on Biden, and they know it.
They would have impeached him by now if they did.
wtfjapan
Biden voters?
blue states have higher average wages, higher rates of college educated.
yeah dont see how low IQ relates to that.
now red states, highest levels of welfare per capita, highest levels of homicides per capita, lower average wages and college educated.
see the pattern
lincolnman
In your own words...
Don?
Well, it is "damning"....LOL...
OK, so he screwed up. What about Tillertson, Sessions, Kelly, Zinke, Mattis, Barr, Milley, Esper...he screw up on those too?
Not once...
Well, you already admitted to being a leftist...
bass4funk
We say the same about Trump.
They have the evidence, that’s why they’re doing an impeachment inquiry
No excuse, it’s not going away though
Like the Dems, they’re working on it.
A private citizen, if the Dems even try that route they’ll be losing all day, that’s why they haven’t touched it yet.
A deal he had with them that was on the record business-wise
stormcrow
Fraud, rape, espionage, treason, violent threats, insurrection, etc.
Trump is a walking crime scene.
Desert Tortoise
Maybe not. A RICO conviction in Georgia cannot be pardoned. The way the Georgia law works that is one crime a Georgia Governor cannot legally pardon. In addition a President cannot pardon a state crime. Only a governor can do that.
Desert Tortoise
Except for Kevin McCarthy's district, which has a college completion rate a full 10% below the national average, one of the five lowest counties for that measure in California too, along with one of the state's highest STD and drug addiction rates. The banjo music is loud and a lot of his constituents think "Deliverance" was a comedy.
bass4funk
Conservative populist
Joe?
With Dem failures ultimately continuing
Absolutely.
hmmm…
I did not.
Desert Tortoise
Sigh. Please at least be accurate. Facts matter and being loose with facts discredits your argument.
Because of the narrow way rape is defined under New York law, penetration by a penis, Mr. Trump was acquitted of rape. He was however convicted of sexual assault for penetrating her with his finger. What the appeals court pointed out that in most US states what Donald Trump did to her would pass their definition of rape even if it didn't meet the narrower definition under New York law and thus she did not defame Mr. Trump by accusing him of raping her.
lincolnman
So?
Who?
And?
BINGO!
What?
EFD
Remember, this is a man so stupid that he claims OUT LOUD that windmills cause whales to beach themselves.
(Sound from the air does not really penetrate the water to any extent which is one reason why ASW aircraft are so dangerous to submarines).
So it would make sense that he is also a miserable failure at business.
Born 1" from home plate, he manages to fall into a triple-play with no other runners on base. THAT takes some doing!
And then he covered up his systemic burning of daddy's fortune with fraud.
How very Donald of him.
opheliajadefeldt
The only thing Trump has ever done in his whole life that has been successful, is scamming people. He probably has no equals in this line of 'business' He may go down as one of the biggest con-men in world history, and the USA people made him their president............LOL!! He and his whole family are nothing more than parasites......please do not include Mary Trump in that description, she is the honest one amongst them all. But to be honest, the longer this case drags out I am doubting he will ever be imprisoned, because of how USA justice works. He white, rich, and has connections.
wallace
Judge clarifies: Yes, Trump was found to have raped E. Jean Carroll
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/07/19/trump-carroll-judge-rape/
bass4funk
Liberals think we can completely live without oil, now that’s stupid, but also funny!
If he were he wouldn’t have the real estate, land, property and still be big as he is, the name carries.
Me too, what’s wrong with having money? Not a crime.
Lot of effort on the Dems and the swamp.
No, that’s not what happened sigh…
wallace
It's so funny people think they were born in the same league as Trump.
EFD
In terms of failure, he’s in a league of his own
Soon to get a cell of his own!
raincloud
You made my day, Bass. Thanks for supplying us with some comic relief!
EFD
No, I said born an inch from home plate, not “born with 1 inch”, but kudos for flaunting what you’ve “got”, lol
wallace
Trump supporters have run out of ideas. Still, the four criminal indictments to come. Sharpen your pencils boys.
Superlib
Oh, forgot Trump University in my list of civil cases Trump lost. Hard to keep up.
bass4funk
No, that’s why the left is still worried us.
Yes, hope the left does indeed do that, good point (pun intended)
No worries, not the first time you’re all over the place so my bad. I’ll take that one.