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Trump administration rescinds rule on foreign students

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Another day another embarrassing climb-down. What a moronic administration.

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Trump is a bare knuckles, pragmatic negotiator. 

He’s a brawler at best. It looks impressive to those that don’t know how to fight, but anyone with a knowledge of the game (negotiation) can see trump for the one-trick pony he is. He couldn’t even pronounce the word finesse.

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Trump is a bare knuckles, pragmatic negotiator. If you fail to grasp that then you will never understand what he is doing and just see him as a dictator.

What has he successfully negotiated so far?

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"She'll get a job some day. Maybe sometime during her thirties."

I’ve graduated university 3 times. Whilst working full time for my MAs. All fully paid for by myself. Education and self improvement are what keeps us progressing as a species.

trump likes dumb and stupid, makes people easier to manipulate as we see demonstrated by the usual suspects time and time again.

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@Desert Tortoise I am not belittling people like you who returned to U. in your thirties.

Even though it's likely the lady in question has been a full time U. student for 11 years, you're right, I don't know anything about her situation, and I should not have said what I said. I admit when I'm wrong. And I admit this administration's rule on foreign students was wrong.

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Told ya. Load of hot air as usual.

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"She'll get a job some day. Maybe sometime during her thirties."

In my mid 30s I realized my Bachelors degree was not going to allow me to do what I wanted to do in life so I returned to university for a Masters degree. It's not such an uncommon thing. Some big employers want their people to have a Masters to advance. Others like me decide their current path is wrong and want to go in a different direction. In my case I worked full time and paid cash for my education. It was perhaps the hardest time of my life, and it was almost ten more years before I really found the job I wanted. You know absolutely nothing about the lady you quote but are so quick to conjure up a negative image of her. It must be nice to be so perfect. The rest of us bow to your grand superiority.

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Trump is a bare knuckles, pragmatic negotiator. If you fail to grasp that then you will never understand what he is doing and just see him as a dictator.

Trump wants to dictate and not be scrutinized for responsibility of his actions, but in a democracy, unfortunately for him, he does end up having to try and answer for his mistakes, or in his case, avoid them, when asked.

The failure to grasp him as a bare knuckles, pragmatic negotiator is because he isn't that. No one has seen him do this as president. Actually, he's a crybaby who just wants things his own lying and narrative laden way. That's all.

The kicking out of foreign students follows his inept diplomatic inability to pragmatically and with information, make critical decisions that make sense. Your idea of what he is is simply not real nor true.

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educating foreign kids is a net positive, as many of the brightest decide to stay in the United States, where they can compete and use their brains.

Kids who spend time in the US also have a better understanding about typical American people.

We ARE loud. We have many faults, but we also have a sense of fair play for others and a belief that we can't actually trust our own govt. We want to believe the USGovt will do the moral correct thing, but we don't expect that. PLus we know that people everywhere have slightly different morals.

We want to partner with companies who do well, legally, charge fair prices, and help our companies win at the same time.

Hopefully, college students get that part in the US college experience along with the math, science, beer-drinking 101, courses too.

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The guy is still bitter that Trump "University" no longer accepts "students".

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“There has never been a case where so many institutions sued the federal government,” said Terry Hartle, the group's senior vice president. “In this case, the government didn’t even try to defend its policymaking.”

Indeed - and just one example of why the policy was so flawed.

This will cause Trump to have another meltdown - and, in turn, he'll think up some other anti-immigrant policy to try to stoke his racist, hate-filled supporters...

Didn't Melania's parents get their citizenship through "chain migration" recently?

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/aug/09/melania-trumps-parents-become-citizens-through-chain-migration

If I was them, I'd be worried about their son-in-law revoking it...

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She'll get a job some day. Maybe sometime during her thirties.

And she'll still be smarter than all of the racists put together!!

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LOL! I wonder if his alma mater threatened to release his transcripts?

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trump must have realized that the Chinese Communist party, Saudi family members and Russian oligarchs would not continue to fund his campaign or launder money through his real estate properties if their spoiled children or grandchildren had to leave the country.

Worried about those international hotels Don-E, eh?

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Kwatt,Trump has Attention Deficit Disorder, Trump do not know, what he said an hour ago Google Mary Trump

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The foreign students end up leaving and taking all that new tech back to their countries and end up using it against the US either economically or military use.

This is a terribly paranoid look at how the educated do things. While there is some truth as there is a small percentage who might do this, people of science who strive to learn do not leave the best place for them to do their work.

In essence, brain drain occurs when the opportunity for the educated lies elsewhere. It's why highly educated people in the United States go to progressive states like California, NY, Massachusetts and Illinois, while leaving states like the Dakota's, Oklahoma, Iowa and many southern states.

Most who are highly educated want to maintain and expand their field of study at the highest level available to them, so educating foreign kids is a net positive, as many of the brightest decide to stay in the United States, where they can compete and use their brains.

If, as Trump foolishly and ignorantly wanted, they kicked out foreign students, it would have been a net negative, with repercussion in future level of studies in America, and lot of brain drain. I'm very glad he failed.

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“I feel relief,” said Andrea Calderon, a 29-year-old biology graduate student 

She'll get a job some day. Maybe sometime during her thirties.

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@Borscht

One offspring attends a university who, like many others, saw a workaround; in-person classes for foreign students with attendance being optional.

trump is desperate to get some momentum from his base that he will try anything hoping it would change the news cycle. He probably realized he would fail or the legal battle would last past the next election, so he quit instead of having another loss or wasting time with nothing to brag about before the election.

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Trump often seems changing his mind about decisions he made. He can't see what is going to happen soon at all when he made a decision.

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.45 is clearly from the "don't ask permission first" leadership style. His "best people" are pretty clueless or their advice is being ignored.

Undergrads don't take "all that tech" home. If grad students do that, then the university needs better filters for any sensitive knowledge topics of study. My advanced degree is in sensitive technologies. Some work and classes only allowed US citizens. The stuff that facebook and google do ARE NOT considered "sensitive" any more than streaming cat videos is sensitive.

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But it is not the fault of the students but of their country's government.

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The foreign students end up leaving and taking all that new tech back to their countries and end up using it against the US either economically or military use.

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Plenty were backing the move on this site last week. I wonder how this policy reversal will be repainted as an act of genius leadership.

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Flapping, flipping and flopping.

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An attempt to appease his uneducated base backfiring, yet again.

So much winning for trump!!!!

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Trump is so desperate, he support giving citizenship to DACA eligible residents, while a week he tried to deport them, Google Trump DACA

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It was an indefensible, and pointlessly punitive decision in the first place. Finally a win for decency.

A tip of the hat to the 18 attorneys general who had filed a lawsuit to fight this and probably win. I doubt Trump would have folded so easily without this suit.

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One offspring attends a university who, like many others, saw a workaround; in-person classes for foreign students with attendance being optional.

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Another check on Trump's attempts to further impose his brand of authoritarianism! Little Stephen Miller and his ilk must be fuming.

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