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2 acquitted, jury hung on 2 more in Whitmer kidnap plot

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Gov: "Hey guys, we are going to require people to wear masks to protect Americans"

These guys: "Time to kidnap the governor"

Long ago this would have seemed like a silly story from The Onion, yet here we are.

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Oh yeah this FBI setup thing that was used to affect the election.

acquittal? Well look at that.

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Oh yeah this FBI setup thing that was used to affect the election. 

acquittal? Well look at that.

Yeah, “credibility” is not something you think of when you picture the FBI these days. Those days are long gone.

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Yeah, “credibility” is not something you think of when you picture the FBI these days. Those days are long gone.

Long gone? When in your mind was the last year in which the FBI had credibility? Which specific cases caused you to turn against them?

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Long gone?

Yes.

https://needtoknow.news/2021/09/fbis-shocking-history-of-corruption-and-coverups/

https://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2019/dec/4/corruption-at-the-fbi-cia-and-doj/

https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2022/01/the_fbis_broken_relationship_with_us.html

When in your mind was the last year in which the FBI had credibility?

A little before 2016 but still I never thought that the FBI was a clean organization, but from 2016 the agency just went way out of control and completely discredited itself as an organization built on integrity, that myth has been completely debunked.

Which specific cases caused you to turn against them?

2016 based on the evidence for sure and going on to this day in other forms and also from the past days of Hoover.

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So this is phase 1 false flag. Not guilty, FBI tried to entrap people.

next up, Jan 6th.

still haven’t seen that transcript of the FBI informant.

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Defense lawyers had portrayed their clients as credulous weekend warriors prone to big, wild talk, who were often stoned. They said FBI undercover agents and informants tricked and cajoled the men into agreeing to a conspiracy.

Or just your typical MAGA-warrior...

But prosecutors offered evidence of the men discussing abducting Whitmer before the FBI sting began. They went way beyond talk, including scouting Whitmer’s summer home and testing explosives, prosecutors told jurors.

Hmmmm.....before the FBI were involved....

Deliberations resumed earlier Friday with a court employee handing over a large plastic bag containing pennies, known as exhibit 291. The pennies were requested before jurors went home Thursday. Pennies taped to a commercial-grade firework were intended to act like shrapnel, investigators said. According to evidence, a homemade explosive was detonated during training in September 2020, about a month before the men were arrested.

Well, doesn't everyone make home-built fragmentation explosives, then test them out?

In his closing argument on April 1, Assistant U.S. Attorney Nils Kessler said Croft wanted to test the explosive as a possible weapon to use against Whitmer's security team. He quoted him as saying the pennies would be so hot they could go “right through your skin.”

More "Blue Lives Matter" from from the far-right...

Nothing but pro-Trump domestic terrorists...

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Since the last guy complained about them then. I guessed so.

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Americanthinker.com and needtoknow.news.

That’s the place to hear about ‘credibility’?

Har!

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Americanthinker.com and needtoknow.news. 

That’s the place to hear about ‘credibility’?

Har!

Har? Hardly, at any rate we now know once again there were more agents in the crowds that planned this and once again the FBI has egg on their face.

The FBI have no case.

https://www.lawenforcementtoday.com/new-court-filings-show-fbi-had-at-least-12-informants-in-whitmer-kidnapping-plot/

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lawenforcementtoday? Didn’t they have to change their banner title because it was using a well known fascist quote?

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I don’t think that amateur editorial websites such as americanthinker, needtoknownews and lawenforcementoday are the best sources to refer to.

If I got all my news from eaglefreedomflaglibertytruth.com I’d probably have a rather skewed take on things.

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lawenforcementtoday? Didn’t they have to change their banner title because it was using a well known fascist quote?

That’s not the issue. CNN is still on the air. The fact of the matter is, the court filings show that the FBI once again were knee deep in in trying to frame innocent people for the sake of political bias and the prosecution proved that point yet again today.

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I don’t think that amateur editorial websites such as americanthinker, needtoknownews and lawenforcementoday are the best sources to refer to. 

Yeah, well, it doesn’t matter what the left think on that or particularly this issue. The fact of the matter is, they lost once again. They really need to do their job and get their house and leadership in order before they try and frame innocent people for political crap.

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Yeah, well, it doesn’t matter what the left think on that or particularly this issue. 

Sure it does, if the ‘right’ are getting all their information from blogs. These are not news agencies or reliable sources of information. They are blogs.

Websites like these are part of the problem and the reason why you see headlines like the one at the top of this page.

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Bass, you claimed that you had a family member in the FBI so its a bit strange to use dodgy, right-wing editorial blogs when you could be quoting family members directly.

Your response should include that your family member was disgusted with what he saw and left the FBI. It's a better story and you don't have to worry about forgetting about FBI family members in the future.

Plus, no one can prove you are lying. Just trying to help.

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Two of the mug shots have weird ears.

Ok and?

Sure it does, if the ‘right’ are getting all their information from blogs.

No, from the court affidavits or legal records. The blogs and other news sources are follow ups.

These are not news agencies or reliable sources of information. They are blogs. 

Well, here’s one…

https://nypost.com/2021/07/24/bizarre-arrest-of-fbi-agent-spotlights-accusations-of-bureau-corruption/

There you go. This should suffice the left.

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you claimed that you had a family member in the FBI

Police and one in the FBI

so its a bit strange to use dodgy, right-wing editorial blogs when you could be quoting family members directly.

Not really when I hear from my own kin about the rampant corruption at the upper echelons of the bureau.

Plus, no one can prove you are lying.

No reason to lie.

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This case of pure domestic terrorism once again gives us another example of the far-right's war on our nation's law enforcers...

From putting 140 Capitol officers in the hospital on Jan 6th, to supporting no-training concealed carry laws all opposed by police unions, to this case where they planned to blow up Gov Whitmer's state troop security detail...it's clear that far-right violent extremism is our country's No. 1 security threat...

Blue Lives Matter? Law and order? No more - that was your father's Republican Party....

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Hmmmm.....before the FBI were involved....

Before the prosecutors said the FBI involved.

not guilty. That’s all that matters.

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This case of pure domestic terrorism once again gives us another example of the far-right's war on our nation's law enforcers...

How when they’re caught red-handed? That’s on them. No one told them to be corrupt and get caught.

From putting 140 Capitol officers in the hospital on Jan 6th,

This is not about 1/6, this is about the failed plot to pin a so-called kidnapping on innocent Americans that were once again caught being framed by our law-enforcement agency.

..it's clear that far-right violent extremism is our country's No. 1 security threat...

No, the threat is radical Islamist terrorism. Wray couldn’t even answer the basic question of how many so-called White extremist are in the United States under oath. You would think he would have that information and he didn’t…odd.

Blue Lives Matter?

Being investigated as we speak.

Law and order?

From this winter.

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to this case where they planned to blow up Gov Whitmer's state troop security detail..

were falsely accused of. As evidenced by the verdict.

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Bass: Not really when I hear from my own kin about the rampant corruption at the upper echelons of the bureau.

Can you go into more detail from your kin?

What are they saying?

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Can you go into more detail from your kin?

Irrelevant. So what do you think of the FBI once again being caught lying and falsifying documents in order to get innocent people convicted?

What are they saying?

I just said it.

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This case of pure domestic terrorism once again gives us another example of the far-right's war on our nation's law enforcers...

How when they’re caught red-handed? That’s on them. No one told them to be corrupt and get caught.

Agree. These domestic terrorists were caught red-handed....red is the color of far-right terrorism...

From putting 140 Capitol officers in the hospital on Jan 6th,

This is not about 1/6, this is about the failed plot to pin a so-called kidnapping on innocent Americans that were once again caught being framed by our law-enforcement agency.

Thanks. More police hate....though we really didn't need more examples... Notice they are defending a group of terrorists that planned to blow up a police security detail - and who expressed this even before the investigation began. Same as defending ISIS....

..it's clear that far-right violent extremism is our country's No. 1 security threat...

No, the threat is radical Islamist terrorism. Wray couldn’t even answer the basic question of how many so-called White extremist are in the United States under oath. You would think he would have that information and he didn’t…odd.

Wow, another example....the hate for our police within the far-right runs deep....

Blue Lives Matter?

Being investigated as we speak.

Indeed...

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/stop-the-steal-organizer-says-he-received-a-grand-jury-subpoena-for-jan-6-probe/ar-AAW1w5g?cvid=e9f8b83d39dd4772bb844712294bc032

Law and order?

From this winter.

I'd say Fall - I think Trump and his cohorts will in jail by then...depends on how many more "take the Fifth", like the mob...

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Agree. These domestic terrorists were caught red-handed....red is the color of far-right terrorism...

If that’s so, then why we’re they found not guilty and the FBI caught lying on these men?

Thanks. More police hate....though we really didn't need more examples...

No, that’s why these men are now free.

Wow, another example....the hate for our police within the far-right runs deep....

So then you think as I do that the Democrats were wrong in their war against the police and that defunding them was the absolute worst and most ridiculous idea ever.

I'd say Fall - I think Trump and his cohorts will in jail by then

You said that for 5 years now, if it didn’t happen then, it ain’t about to happen now.

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Someone just refuses to accept the verdict, huh?

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-No One Convicted

-Two Men ACQUITTED

-FBI Agents & Informants Heavily Involved In The Plot

-Lead FBI Agent On The Case Was A Political Partisan & A Violent Criminal

haha? Guess we will never hear of this again.

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FBI: These guys drove by a house and played with fireworks!

Democrats: They had a bag of pennies too. Charge Trump!

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haha? Guess we will never hear of this again.

Selective deafness again? Stopped talking about Sacramento already?

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This case highlights the US justice system. Democrats attack the positive aspects of a democracy when they don’t get their way.

Interesting how the laws of America protect even those Americans who hate their country.

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