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Tragic. It’s also further evidence that your birthday should not be the only qualification for buying a firearm. (Please don’t start talking about Chicago; it’s not an island.)

However, video taken before the shooting shows police tossing bottled water from an armored vehicle to what appear to be armed civilians walking the streets. And one of them appears to be the gunman.

“We appreciate you being here,” an officer is heard saying to the group over a loudspeaker.

Highly inappropriate and only serves to embolden the gun nutters.

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All this violence is being instigated by right-wingers. I have no doubt they relish the idea of being the start of the real Civil War II. There are some nasty, dangerous right wing nutjobs in that state. Especially around Kenosha.

15 ( +32 / -17 )

Hence that whole 'well regulated militia' part of the 2nd Amendment. To prevent immature, unprepared yahoos like this guy from just grabbing a gun and doing something stupid.

But I'm guessing the response from Mitch McConnell and Co will be 'thoughts & prayers,' perhaps led by Jerry Falwell Jr.

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Hmm. The DNC got near wall to wall overflowingly flowery coverage here on agenda jt. The RNC has been in full swing and we aee just a few propagated articles. Hmm. It's like censorship or something.

Anyhoo, what's interesting about these riots (excuse me, 'peaceful protests') in Kenosha is that nobody is talking about intentionally burned buildings, businesses and cars plus people getting hurt or killed other than this incident. Almost as if the 'media' is trying to steer people's thoughts. Hmm.

Oh yeah, and these burn, loot, matter people are not wearing masks and social distancing. This will spread covid 19.

-18 ( +11 / -29 )

opening fire in the middle of the street with a semi-automatic rifle

The guns and ammo industries and those owning shares in guns and ammo corporations are some of the very few gaining in any way from America's ongoing violence.

15 ( +22 / -7 )

Hmm. The DNC got near wall to wall overflowingly flowery coverage here on agenda jt. The RNC has been in full swing and we aee just a few propagated articles. Hmm. It's like censorship or something.

It’s likely because there is no reason to cover a Trump family reunion that pumps out a steady stream of lies. It is funny watching conservatives play the victim card they despise so much.

Oh yeah, and these burn, loot, matter people are not wearing masks and social distancing. This will spread covid 19.

Kind of like a Trump (monster truck) rally. Did you complain about it then?

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“What I saw on that video makes me sick,” Biden said. “Once again, a Black man, Jacob Blake, has been shot by the police in broad daylight, with the whole world watching.” -- article

New video footage taken from another angle has now been released showing Blake fighting with police officers on the sidewalk before he was shot. Biden doesn’t even know all the facts before going on record condemning law enforcement. He just assumes the police officers were in the wrong.

-15 ( +16 / -31 )

It’s not improbable that Trump will pardon this kid.

13 ( +21 / -8 )

Jacob Blake was shot seven times in the back for walking away from police officers (four of whom together couldn’t subdue him by other less lethal methods, apparently) but this guy is clearly seen on video approaching police officers while holding a semi-automatic rifle after having shot three people, and other people yelling “he just shot someone,” and the police let the gunman walk past them and leave the scene. I can’t help but wonder what the difference was.

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Sevenseas: What do you think the reason is for an unarmed (eyewitness accounts) black guy getting shot by police and an armed white guy who just shot people being allowed to pass unmolested by police?

13 ( +18 / -5 )

The guns and ammo industries and those owning shares in guns and ammo corporations are some of the very few gaining in any way from America's ongoing violence.

No, the Democrats and the leaders of these cities and States that are completely silent on the anarchy and violence and the threat of defunding the police is the reason why gun sales are up and why a lot of people can't flee these cities fast enough and all this just helps Trump.

-16 ( +9 / -25 )

“We were all chanting ‘Black lives matter’

They have nothing better to do than support a Marxist group that doesn't care about black lives that were snuffed out by other blacks or rioters.

-18 ( +9 / -27 )

P. Smith,

I’m really not sure. I mean, it can’t be race because cops aren’t racist in America, right? I think it was because the officers dealing with Blake hadn’t had their morning coffees. Yeah. That’s probably it. Definitely not race.

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No, the Democrats and the leaders of these cities and States that are completely silent on the anarchy and violence

There are zero leaders silent on these issues.

4 ( +12 / -8 )

They have nothing better to do than support a Marxist group that doesn't care about black lives that were snuffed out by other blacks or rioters.

It’s not a Marxist group. BLM does care about the lives snuffed our by others, including blacks; however, it is a group focused on black lives sniffed out by police.

Do you complain that the NRA doesn’t care about freedom of religion because it doesn’t constantly speak about it? Didn’t think so.

9 ( +18 / -9 )

Biden has a point. We do need to stop the violence. If you are a perp who's suspected of domestic violence and sexual abuse (the initial reasons for the LEOs to pay you a visit) and a police officers need to arrest you, do not resist. Do not start brawling with them on the sidewalk. If you start walking toward your car and the police tell you to stop, stop. If you have a documented history of using weapons on people, don't reach into your car when told to stop.

These steps will go a long way in ending the violence.

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It’s not a Marxist group.

They are a Marxist group

https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2020/07/what_the_black_lives_matter_movement_really_is.html

https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/civil-rights-leader-marxist-philosophy-of-black-lives-matter-org-will-harm-our-communities

BLM does care about the lives snuffed our by others,

No they don't, they selectively care ONLY about people that can further their Marxist agenda. We have yet to see one of these cowards to condemn the rioters and looters of black owned stores and businesses and destruction of their livelihoods. Not a mention of black children that have been killed over these last 2 months and why? Because it doesn't help their narrative.

including blacks; however, it is a group focused on black lives sniffed out by police.

But not little kids...black in particular.

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“We were all chanting ‘Black lives matter’ at the gas station and then we heard, boom, boom, and I told my friend, '‘That’s not fireworks,’” 19-year-old protester Devin Scott told the Chicago Tribune. “And then this guy with this huge gun runs by us in the middle of the street and people are yelling, ‘He shot someone! He shot someone!’ And everyone is trying to fight the guy, chasing him and then he started shooting again.”

Why is it whenever I see videos of these protests, I see them carrying signs, arms locked and shouting their grievances, but then suddenly a bunch or right-wingers carrying fully-loaded guns come along looking like a militia ready to shoot to kill. It's always the right-wing nuts that are packing.

This incident was bound to happen. Those conservative nutcases want to instigate a war and further stoke racism. It's no wonder supporters of the BLM movement are upset. There is only so much one can take until they have to fight back.

10 ( +16 / -6 )

Texas...,

It goes a little beyond that.

Elijah McClain, black, unarmed, killed by police:

On June 29, the interim police chief announced that multiple officers had been placed on administrative leave and were under investigation after photos of them surfaced that had been taken near the site where McClain died. The photos, taken in October 2019, show police officers posing inappropriately and reenacting the carotid restraint used on McClain before his death.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Elijah_McClain#:~:text=They%20also%20said%20that%20at,dead%20on%20August%2027%2C%202019.

Michael Brown, black, unarmed, killed by police:

Soon, police vehicles reappeared, including from the St. Louis County Police Department, which had taken control of the investigation. Several officers emerged with dogs. What happened next, according to several sources, was emblematic of what has inflamed the city of Ferguson, Missouri, ever since the unarmed 18-year-old was gunned down: An officer on the street let the dog he was controlling urinate on the memorial site. ...

By then, police had prohibited all vehicles from entering Canfield Drive except for their own. Soon the candles and flowers had been smashed, after police drove over them.

https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2014/08/ferguson-st-louis-police-tactics-dogs-michael-brown/

So yeah, for me personally, obey the police and don't resist. If you feel you've been wronged, fight it in court. But these and similar acts of simple indecency are really what needs to stop.

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We were all chanting ‘Black lives matter’

That must have been have been in between the chants of "death to America" and "kill the police".

One lesson that can taken away from this, is that there no reset button in real life. People who want to go out into the street and pretend that they are righteous crusaders for whatever cause they think is cool are going to find out real quick that real life is a cruel master.

The shooter is seen on video "pretending" to be an EMT and tending to BLM rioters who were injured while participating in a little looting and rioting a few hours before. I bet he was looking for the reset when he was smashed in the head with a skateboard. And for sure when he shot his attacker in the head. He probably forgot all about that when he was running down the street being repeatedly jumped and knocked to the ground. I bet when he was on his back with a "peaceful protester" approaching with a handgun he was wishing he had never played this game to start with.

-10 ( +5 / -15 )

It’s likely because there is no reason to cover a Trump family reunion that pumps out a steady stream of lies. It is funny watching conservatives play the victim card they despise so much.

2 men have been killed and town burned to the ground but you are focused on politics and the conventions. I gotcha!

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Only now does Joe Biden make a video denouncing the violence. After he sees negative impact to his poll numbers and only after people have died.

thats not leadership from behind.

-7 ( +7 / -14 )

Kenosha shooting suspect was photographed front and center ar a Trump rally:

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/ellievhall/kenosha-suspect-kyle-rittenhouse-trump-rally

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Kenosha shooting suspect was photographed front and center ar a Trump rally:

And your point?

-5 ( +7 / -12 )

Kenosha shooting suspect was photographed front and center ar a Trump rally:

And your point?

If you read the article link you’d know.

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If you read the article link you’d know.

I did Thank you for your concern, but my question was "what was his overall point?"

-7 ( +6 / -13 )

Because a 17 year old boy with an AR, what could possibly go wrong?

BTW, it’s not legal for a 17 year old to posses that weapon in any state so somebody is in legal jeopardy for providing it to him.

His SNS is full of pics of him him police uniforms and holding guns he has no right to own. White toxic masculinity at it’s finest.

But sure, let’s continue to scream about MS-13 moving into the burbs. That’s totally a real thing.

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That Kyle Rittenhouse is a trump supporter. Duh.

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Ok and? Linda Sansour is a Biden and Bernie supporter

-9 ( +5 / -14 )

Well, didn’t expect that level of counter debate. How unlike you.

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He isn’t old enough to vote. Going to see a candidate speak is part of our political process. Nice deflection from your “peaceful protests” that now got people killed.

Dems wouldn’t stop the violence until CNN told them it was hurting their election polls.

Then dutiful puppet Biden only denounced the violent response to the Biden voters violent acts of the last weeks and months that he was fine with.

-11 ( +4 / -15 )

Nice deflection from your “peaceful protests” that now got people killed.

Facts man, facts. Who had the rifle? Who shot someone? Try again.

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Kyle Rittenhouse, of Antioch, Illinois, was taken into custody in Illinois on suspicion of first-degree intentional homicide. Antioch is about 15 miles from Kenosha. Two people were killed Tuesday night and a third was wounded in an attack apparently carried out by a young white man who was caught on cellphone video opening fire in the middle of the street with a semi-automatic rifle. “I just killed somebody,” the gunman could be heard saying at one point during the rampage that erupted just before midnight.

Well, there you have it. The pro-Trump, violent. armed, militias and domestic terrorists are now taking their guns and murdering people in the streets...

I'm sure he proudly wore his MAGA hat and Trump 2020 T-Shirt while carrying out his murder spree...

Don't hold you breath waiting for Trump or any spineless Repub to denounce this...

Repub law and order...far-right armed militias roaming our streets shooting people...

4 ( +11 / -7 )

The police have become emboldened under limp Trump's term.But didn't police officers want to protect and serve why they joined the force? Seems they just want to serve knees or bullets and being bullies whilst doing it.Well it's time:The ballot or the bullet.If in November's election the right thing isn't done,then the bullet might be the only way.Talking hasn't achieved anything but more of the same.Need a Malcolm X to rally the people.

7 ( +11 / -4 )

what were these "peaceful protesters" doing before they were shot?

Walking on the street on a sunny day, headed to Bible study?

Nope. Committing violent acts. Which until CNN Don Lemon told Biden those were now hurting his election, he was all for. Not one word in 4 days of the DNC about stopping violence in the streets.

a 70 year old man was beaten unconscious and his business burned to the ground 1 night before. This violence caused businesses to hire armed security to protect themselves and property and now people are dead.

That was because the Dem governor of the state refused to put police and declined the offer of federal support.

-8 ( +7 / -15 )

Let me guess. If they hadn’t gone to the protest they wouldn’t have been shot.

Nothing to do with the trump supporter with an illegal weapon. Explain how this was Biden’s fault again, maybe it’s time to send out an arrest warrant for him is it?

The mental trickery some people have to perform on themselves to avoid reality is sickening.

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You dont burn down businesses, assault citizens and set car dealerships on fire when you "protest".

Its nothing but violent acts that Biden supported because he thought it helps him in the election. Now that it hurts him, you would normally see a full stop.

But I think Dems have lost control of the monster they made.

-4 ( +9 / -13 )

The police have become emboldened under limp Trump's term.

Hope so. The Dems are completely silent on this issue.

But didn't police officers want to protect and serve why they joined the force?

Didn't the governors and mayors say that they will uphold the Constitution and and listen to the will of the people?

Seems they just want to serve knees or bullets and being bullies whilst doing it.Well it's time:The ballot or the bullet.

If you commit a crime, what do you expect?

If in November's election the right thing isn't done,then the bullet might be the only way.Talking hasn't achieved anything but more of the same.Need a Malcolm X to rally the people.

Whatever Happened to Malcolm again?

-7 ( +8 / -15 )

You dont burn down businesses, assault citizens and set car dealerships on fire when you "protest".

Again, you’ve been asked this before. Have you studied much American history?

And still comment about the alleged murderer?

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and hey look. Jacob Blake had a knife when he was shot. Didnt I mention that yesterday?

https://www.foxnews.com/us/blake-had-knife-in-car-when-kenosha-cop-shot-him-wisconsin-doj

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if the Dems had denounced the violence, it would have stopped.

if the Dem governor had put the correct number of police, businesses wouldnt need private armed security.

If the Dem governor had accepted the federal assistance, same.

If people were not emboldened that "protest" means rioting, looting and burning, it wouldnt have happened.

Because of all of that, a person was put in a position to respond violently to violence.

Not one word at the Dem convention, your team loves this and is in full support. but now its time to play the victim. oh how could this have happened, you scream to the sky.

-4 ( +9 / -13 )

Like murdering someone?

Did you feel the same way when Steve Scalise was shot by a Bernie supporter?

You were very adept at defending derek chauvin.

I never defended him, what he did was horrible, I stated that had Floyd not tried to pass around fake bills and wouldn't have wouldn't have done drugs on that day, he still might be with us, now does that excuse what Chauvin did, it doesn't, but please stop being selective on the people you want to want to point out and call murderers.

-5 ( +8 / -13 )

care to see what your "peaceful protesters" did to a 70 year old man, a business owner who tried to stop them from burning his business down?

https://www.the-sun.com/news/1368802/kenosha-riots-worker-beaten-looter-jacob-blake/

-3 ( +9 / -12 )

and hey look. Jacob Blake had a knife when he was shot. Didnt I mention that yesterday?

No he didn’t. He was unarmed. No weapon was recovered. These are known facts.

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I think Dems have lost control of the monster they made.

I think just the opposite. The democrats actually believe the Twitter posts they read represent the majority of voting Americans' thinking; that they approve of the violence and destruction taking place in democrat-controlled cities. They honestly believe this is a winning path to 270 EC votes in November.

-3 ( +9 / -12 )

I’m relieved Trump supporters are here to tell us how it is. You all always provide such sophisticated insight. We’re lucky to have you.

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News update, it seems Jacob Blake did indeed have a knife. Well, that settles it for me.

*Well, here we are again. another white person murders people indiscriminately, and once again the police find a way to arrest a known armed murderer. Not only that, they encouraged them to be there. Encouraged murderous vigilantes to cross state lines, armed and ready to kill.*

*I also note that once again *not a single right wing poster on this website will denounce murderer. How has a culture like this been allowed to develop on this website?

No, all murders are wrong, but let's not be politically selective ok?

I wish liberals had that same kind of anger when Cannon Hinnant was murdered and not a single liberal on this site spoke or condemned the murder of an innocent child. I guess his life didn't matter...at least to the msm.

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a weapon was recovered, did you not read my link? truth over facts

No he didn’t. He was unarmed. No weapon was recovered. These are known facts.

-6 ( +8 / -14 )

maybe they do, I read that comment above about the peaceful protesters with their signs, arms linked, marching. Some visual recreation created in my mind of what MLK did in the 60s, the peaceful protests.

Then I see what actually happens every night on live stream from citizen journalists. Business, including black owned, burned to the ground. Police and citizens hospitalized from assaults. Looting, rioting, fires. Antifa and BLM instigators everywhere, breaking laws and commiting violence.

So I have to think maybe people really dont know what is going on. The alternative is that they know and are ignoring it, thinking it helps Biden if they do.

-5 ( +7 / -12 )

yep, the knife that was in his hand as he walked to the car was found on the drivers side floorboard inside his car after he was shot.

No one stores a knife on the floor of where the accelerator and break are. Not under the seat, in the floorboard. Dropped there when he was shot. its very clear, but nice deflection from "he didnt have a weapon" to saying "he did but so what"

-3 ( +8 / -11 )

yep, the knife that was in his hand as he walked to the car

All conjecture.

was found on the drivers side floorboard inside his car after he was shot.

Now you're arguing that he was rightfully executed for... putting a knife away? Is that right?

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if the Dems had denounced the violence, it would have stopped.

Let me remind you who is president now. FYI it's not a Democrat. The president is the first person who should denounce this, but he hasn't. If he does it first, others will and should follow. But I guess Trump is too busy with getting reelected and is placing that first and foremost than the situation in America now.

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maybe CNN wont trigger you as much and you can accept facts.

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/08/26/us/jacob-blake-kenosha-wisconsin-shooting-wednesday/index.html

Blake appears to have told officers that he had a knife in his possession, the DCI said. Investigators later "recovered a knife from the driver's side floorboard" of Blake's vehicle and no other weapons were found, the agency said.

-2 ( +9 / -11 )

denounce the violence (not denounce "this" is all Trump has been doing for months.

We dont need after the fact leadership that Biden brings, denouncing each thing after it happens.

Denounce the violence now, all of it. Dems wont.

The president is the first person who should denounce this, but he hasn't.

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In what sort of place would a 17 year old be able to access a semi-automatic assault rifle? In a horrible failed state I guess. I hope the worthless scum never sees the light of day again.

RIP to the victims.

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My stereotypical image of white suprematists are MMA loving, moonshine drinking, V8 truck driving, camouflage wearing, confederate flag waving guys that I would cross the road to avoid.

But they call themselves the “Boogooloo Boys”!!! Call yourself that at my high school you would be labeled gay, bullied and bogwashed every lunchtime.

-1 ( +4 / -5 )

Economy in the toilet. The world’s highest number of cases and deaths from Covid. Massive civil unrest.

What a mess and Trump’s base treat him like a baby and say none of it is his fault.

His critics have been calling him an overgrown baby all along.

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What the hell is “truth over facts” supposed to mean? A fact is the truth. This must be another asinine Trump lackey phrase like “alt-facts.”

Blake did not have a knife on his person.

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Economy in the toilet. The world’s highest number of cases and deaths from Covid. Massive civil unrest.

Seems like the economy is on a track back thankfully and the death rate continues to go down, helps Trump and now let's see how and if the Dems will condemn these riots and violence. Even Don Lemon was saying Biden needs to speak out and fast, but he won't, he will never call for more policing.

His critics have been calling him an overgrown baby all along.

No one cares what the dopey critics say.

-5 ( +6 / -11 )

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/truth-over-facts-biden-fumbles-during-iowa-speech

Biden tells Iowans: 'We choose truth over facts'

What the hell is “truth over facts” supposed to mean? A fact is the truth. This must be another asinine Trump lackey phrase like “alt-facts.”

Oops! Biden strikes again.

-4 ( +7 / -11 )

he told police he had a knife "in his possession". Not that he owned a knife and that it was somewhere in the car. "in his possession"

Blake did not have a knife on his person.

-2 ( +9 / -11 )

Why do all of the murderers come from the far right?

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Dems would do something to ensure children don’t have access to firearms.

No, they won't. In the previous admin. they had 8 years, they had the first two years and controlled all 3 branches of government and they did nothing and they won't do it again because it would politically destroy them.

Still no comment on the alleged murderer? A trump supporter charged with first degree homicide. Going to denounce his actions?

Bad, good he's caught, so what else do you want us to say?

-2 ( +6 / -8 )

According to witness accounts and video footage, police apparently let the gunman walk past them and leave the scene with a rifle over his shoulder and his hands in the air as members of the crowd were yelling for him to be arrested because he had shot people.

I want you all to read that. I want you to read that over and over and over when you even THINK of saying 'not all cops...' Where were the 'good cops' here? Where?? You can bet that if some black man with a conceal-carry had done what the cops SHOULD have done, he'd be dead in the middle of the street.

I see people on this thread arguing about whether or not Blake had a weapon. You know who DID have a weapon? This scum! And did the cops shoot HIM in the back 7 times? Even if Blake did have a weapon, was he brandishing it? You know who DID brandish a weapon? This scum! Did Blake murder two people in a public street? You know who DID murder two people in a public street? THIS SCUM!

And yet, this gun-toting white boy gets to have AAAAALLLLL the benefits of due process. And Blake gets to spend the rest of his life paralyzed from the waist down.

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America is out of control. If you allow people, law enforcement or not, to roam the street with guns then people will get shot.

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Why do all of the murderers come from the far right?

Not Cannon Hinnant's murderer

Not the shooter of Steve Scalise

Not the person that sent Susan Collins Ricin to her home.

Not the Man arrested for bomb threat at a pro-life event at Rochester Community and Technical College

or...

https://www.wsoctv.com/news/local/driver-accused-firing-shots-trump-supporters-along-fort-mill-road/YG7P5ZUP4ZELDHTC3OJFTA4RCY/

And let's not forget when Booth's was not a Republican when he shot Lincoln....

-5 ( +5 / -10 )

Why do all of the murderers come from the far right?

Have you already interviewed ALL murderers and inmates about their political affiliation?

-2 ( +5 / -7 )

Bass:. Not Cannon Hinnant's murderer

Huh? The murder of a 5-year old was politically motivated?

In the other instances no one actually died. Which would be murder. Of which all of them are on the right.

Even the FBI has said far right extremists are on par with Middle Eastern terrorists when it comes to the threat to Americans. They've never said anything even close to that about the left.

Even if 100% of the murders aren't done by the right, it would be because it's 99.5%.

You guys dominate the murder statistic. Always have, always will. But for now there was a window broken in Portland by Antifa so get your outrage ready.

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Nomination:. Have you already interviewed ALL murderers and inmates about their political affiliation?

Should be obvious that I'm talking about politically based murders. But I'm happy to spell that out for you if needed.

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Not to condone police officers killing unarmed people but let's get the facts- https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hlVceB5JVCo&t=33s

He was being trying to be arrested after a call from an unidentified woman he was stalking/fighting with. His arrests stemmed from a fresh one month warrant for- sexual assault, domestic violence and stealing ex's car. He also has in the past been arrested for brandishing gun in bar and gun was found by police on floor behind driver's seat. This was after assaulting officers trying to arrest him. He had a .144 blood alcohol level which I am not sure which country in the World that that is normal in.

As I said, he didn't deserve to be shot but he didn't deserve to be on the streets living his life normally. But you can do you and downvote this comment and ignore the facts that someone called the police on him in the first place for a reason.

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One must be aware that the far right are very well organized online, these days.

They operate not just in the murky hinterlands of the internet but on many social media and regular sites.

Before two protesters were shot and killed Tuesday night in Kenosha, Wisconsin, a Facebook page posted an event calling on members to "take up arms and defend our city tonight from the evil thugs."

The event was created by Kenosha Guard, a self-described militia group that had more than 3,000 members on Facebook.

Facebook removed the "call to arms" event and the Kenosha Guard page on Wednesday, according to The Verge.

https://www.businessinsider.com/facebook-kenosha-call-to-arms-protesters-shot-2020-8

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Daniel Miskinis, the Kenosha police chief, said he was thankful Blake survived the shooting but stressed that he lacked information about it because it was being investigated by another agency. He said three officers who were at the scene had been placed on leave.

Miskinis declined to address the viral video of Blake being shot, saying it would be “unfair to everybody involved” to comment on footage capturing just a limited part of the overall encounter.

The Wisconsin Department of Justice on Wednesday provided new details of what it said investigators have learned about the shooting, saying that a knife was found in Blake’s car after he was shot Sunday, meaning it was not in his immediate possession at the time he was shot.

The 29-year-old told investigators after the shooting about the knife he had in his possession, the department said. The agency did not say if any of the officers at the scene saw the knife or even knew it was there.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/08/26/jacob-blake-kenosha-police-protests/?hpid=hp_no-name_mm-blake-protest-130am%3Ahomepage%2Fstory-ans

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This incident highlights two tragedies of the far-right...

First, the inciting of violence - you saw it in with Pizzagate, then Charlottesville, then Michigan, and everywhere else the far-right have showed up...white supremacist thugs, militias, Proud Boys, KKK, whatever they want to call themselves - they are nothing more than domestic terrorists, beating and shooting anyone that opposes them and their kooky conspiracy theories. Now they're recruiting 17 year olds...

Second, what in the world is a 17 year old doing with an assault rifle. The gun nutters think every child should be issued a gun before they get their first pacifier. And this is what you get - some immature teenager who's watched too much Fox or 4-chan, decides he's going to be Rambo and protect the flock. And so he goes to a gun show and gets sold an AR-15 out of the back of a pick-up. Just absolutely nuts.

Armed far-right mobs roaming the streets, an economy in shambles with 10 million unemployed, over 180K dead from a botched COVID response....this is the world Trump and the Repubs have brought to us...

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Armed far-right mobs roaming the streets, an economy in shambles with 10 million unemployed, over 180K dead from a botched COVID response....this is the world Trump and the Repubs have brought to us...

This is what happens when you have a demagogue supporting people who chant "Jews will not replace us", Qanon cult conspiracies and a decades long record of bigotry.

The powder keg was there, and he lit the fuse.

Something bad is coming, I feel it. I think many of us do. Hope I'm wrong. For the sake of all the decent folks in the US, for the family and friends that will be affected by the nightmare of 4 more years with this morally repugnant administration.

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Not Cannon Hinnant's murderer

Not the shooter of Steve Scalise

Not the person that sent Susan Collins Ricin to her home.

Interesting that you can rattle off a short list of murdered or attacked white people only. Since "whataboutism" seems to be your main weapon of choice, what about Aiyana Jones, Breonna Taylor, Rekia Boyd or Chris Roupe?

You know, both sides are running towards extremes now and ignoring facts, points and people that don't fit their narrative. Neither side is dealing with truth any more. But you know what? I think the blame largely rests on the greed, power tripping and trolling of the right (and the police). I look and I see that that is where it all starts. And once the polarization starts its very hard to end, but it sure does seem that some people's posts are positively dedicated to ensuring the polarization, violence, and hate continue.

The only question left in my mind is the motive. Is it racism, the trolling LOLs, the pleasure of murder by proxy, the joy of seeing the lives of others destroyed, what exactly? A combination of the above? Something else just as heinous? The one thing I am absolutely sure of is that the motivations are just plain scummy.

This round was begun by a cop literally shooting a man in the back at point blank range seven times. There are no good motivations for defending that, not even if he was "reaching for a knife". Not even if he had it in hand. Its just murder to shoot someone in the back like that because there are at least half a dozen other options that a paid public servant should be exercising, such as they obviously would in other countries.

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New video footage taken from another angle has now been released showing Blake fighting with police officers on the sidewalk before he was shot. Biden doesn’t even know all the facts before going on record condemning law enforcement. He just assumes the police officers were in the wrong.

Oh, there was a fight? Well, that's different then, totally justifies shooting him in the back 7 times in front of his children. When do they get their medals?

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Let me remind you who is president now. FYI it's not a Democrat.

The Mayor of Kenosha is, so is the Governor of Wisconsin.

What do want? Federal troops in Kenosha? Do you think that Trump condemning anything will have any effect on the BLM rioters?

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 I think Dems have lost control of the monster they made

I totally agree, the whole thing is very unfortunate but the dem cities allowed this unrest to go on and on

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Let me remind you who is president now. FYI it's not a Democrat.

The Mayor of Kenosha is, so is the Governor of Wisconsin.

The more I read, the more I think Trump supporters regard the position of president as basically superfluous and without influence. The crashed economy, grotesque Covid figures and civil unrest is all the fault of democratic governors. Trump has nothing to do with anything here.

I wonder why they care who is president.

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SuperLib - Why do all of the murderers come from the far right?

It only seems that way to those who are given their information from the CNN-type, politically-biased, "news" outlets.

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What do want? Federal troops in Kenosha?

Why not? He sent them to Portland to abduct people off the streets and escalate the violence.

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I am not going to link a single 17 year old nut with a gun to a loose group of armed people concerned about rioting who have not shot anyone. Sorry my friends who side with me against the attempted murder by police of Jacob Blake, but I am not going there. We can agree on where this started, but where it goes from here is not going to be largely based on raw emotion, panic reaction, brainwashing, and trolling, even by the mass media.

We have stay focused on where this started because there was a lot of careful intent in it. America police feel impunity in gunning down people in the street for any perceived slight to their authority and they don't care what sort of charged situation they just walked into and make zero attempts at de-escalation, it seems, because they relish the violence. Its so common now that people are scared out of their minds. Its like the sheep just realized the shepherds are hungry for mutton. So I abhor the riots and looting as much as I understand why they occur. And in the process some of the people rioting and looting or even associated with them, even as peaceful protestors, are going to get hurt or killed by those defending themselves, or, once again, those associated with them. All we are assured of is a mess (which I note some people thrive on).

Its hard, but stay focused. We can blame the police in general because they have a very clear history of organized violence against the public. But these lone wolves on either side are just that.

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Not the shooter of Steve Scalise

Not the person that sent Susan Collins Ricin to her home.

Not the Man arrested for bomb threat at a pro-life event at Rochester Community and Technical College

Irrelevant to the murderers from the right since these people didn’t die, but carry on with your hyperbole; it’s highly entertaining.

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very clear message from Mike Pence. inclusive and decisive.

"President Trump and I will always support the right of Americans to peaceful protest, but rioting and looting is not peaceful protest, tearing down statues is not free speech. Those who do so will be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law," the vice president continued.

"Let me be clear: the violence must stop – whether in Minneapolis, Portland, or Kenosha," Pence said. "Too many heroes have died defending our freedom to see Americans strike each other down. We will have law and order on the streets of this country for every American of every race, and creed and color," he said.

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very clear message from Mike Pence. inclusive and decisive.

Completley read from a teleprompter and written by someone else. Isn’t that the exact criticism you leveled against Biden’s speech? Is this another double standard you Trump supporters never fail to employ?

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The crashed economy, grotesque Covid figures and civil unrest is all the fault of democratic governors. Trump has nothing to do with anything here.

In the eyes of his base, he isn’t responsible for anything unless it is positive. Something about the buck stops over there.

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truth over facts

Classic!

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very clear message from Mike Pence. inclusive and decisive.

"President Trump and I will always support the right of Americans to peaceful protest"

It would be 'very clear.....inclusive and decisive' if they hadn't already proven that they don't support peaceful protests at all. Just think of kneeling, flags & anthems and you have your lie.

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rainyday - Oh, there was a fight? Well, that's different then, totally justifies shooting him in the back 7 times in front of his children.

Blake chose to enter the car where his children were. Blake could have chosen not to stalk and fight with a woman who chose to call the police because she was afraid of Blake. While Blake had his children in the car. Or does Blake's excess alcohol level excuse his stupidity? Blake said he had a knife. That was also Blake's choice. And a knife was recovered from his vehicle. There was a was an active warrant for Blake's arrest. The sexual assault, domestic violence, and car theft was also another of Blake's choices.

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wanna tell the "peaceful protesters" to stop knocking 70 year old men unconscious as they burn down his business?

Wanna tell the guy who got shot to not instigate violence against armed people specifically hired to guard a business because police are not allowed to do their job?

Wanna tell the far-right kooks out there supporting you and Trump to put down their weapons?

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people and businesses hire armed guards as security.

if someone else wants to rob or burn that business or assault that person, what would you have the armed security do?

Just let the business be destroyed or robbed and let the person they are protecting be injured? they were hired for a reason and are armed for a reason. Does a protester just have the right to do whatever they want in that situation, cause they are "protesting" an unrelated matter?

The attacker has NO responsibility whatsoever for instigating the situation? no responsibility for getting themselves shot?

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Blake chose to enter the car where his children were. Blake could have chosen not to stalk and fight with a woman who chose to call the police because she was afraid of Blake. While Blake had his children in the car. Or does Blake's excess alcohol level excuse his stupidity? Blake said he had a knife. That was also Blake's choice. And a knife was recovered from his vehicle. There was a was an active warrant for Blake's arrest. The sexual assault, domestic violence, and car theft was also another of Blake's choices.

Wow you convinced me! He did bad stuff, therefore it is automatically OK to shoot him in the back 7 times in front of his kids. Got it!

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I totally agree, the whole thing is very unfortunate but the dem cities allowed this unrest to go on and on

If "getting in there and cracking some skulls" was the answer to every problem, as American police and their fanboys seem to think it is, then we would not be in this mess at all. But of course those who always voice support for that "solution" seem to revel in the chance to do it or see it happen, and of course seek to further the norms that make it happen again and again. They love it all but are too cowardly to admit it to us. In fact, some are too cowardly to even admit it to themselves.

Seven shots to the back, point blank range. I am not especially a fan of John Wayne, but I bet he would have some choice words about that. But I suppose Dad and Granddad's hero was "just an actor" to today's militarized police state fanboys.

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Children's minds are so impressionable and when the warp speed of raging teenage hormones kicks in, it can mass produce cookie-cutter AmNazis like Kyle Rittenhouse who, memerised by the faux machismo gun culture, become cannon fodder for toxic demagogues in drive and think on the right Amerika. This child truly knew not what he was doing. Another American tragedy.

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rainyday - Wow you convinced me! He did bad stuff, therefore it is automatically OK to shoot him in the back 7 times in front of his kids. Got it!

Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. Resisting arrest while threatening police with a knife does increase your chances of being shot by police.

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Don’t post any stories of the daily shootings of black on black crime.

Why can you not see that daily crime, whether black on black, white on white, white on black or black on white, are not international news? What we have here is someone shooting into a mass protest/riot following a very controversial shooting by police, on heels of many other controversial shootings by police followed by mass protest and rioting. Its not a conspiracy dude. Its a mass situation concerning massive amounts of people which is concerning even more massive amounts of people. Few people care that Joe Schmo was killed by Terry Thug over a TV set. But if you want that news you can do a search for it.

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so a 17 year old now in 2020 has criminal convictions in the public record from Jan 2016? he would have been 13 years old or so when he supposedly operated a firearm drunk. really?

Let's see, a 17 year old

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so a 17 year old now in 2020 has criminal convictions in the public record from Jan 2016? he would have been 13 years old or so when he supposedly operated a firearm drunk. really?

Kyle Rittenhouse was no angel.

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Vanessa Carlisle - We have stay focused on where this started because there was a lot of careful intent in it. America police feel impunity in gunning down people in the street for any perceived slight to their authority and they don't care what sort of charged situation they just walked into and make zero attempts at de-escalation, it seems, because they relish the violence. 

Hahaha, you're a hoot. You could point out the fact that police were responding to a call from a woman who was afraid of Blake, and his threatening actions. Or you could point out that there was an active warrant for Blake's arrest. Or that Blake was resisting a lawful arrest. It was Blake's actions which resulted in Blake's injuries. Blake chose to make some very bad decisions.

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 I think Dems have lost control of the monster they made

A lot of people are talking about how a civil war is coming. If you have been paying attention you will see that the civil war has already begun and has actually been going on for a while. It's just not the red vs blue, right vs left kind of thing that it seems most people are imagining.

This civil war is taking place within the Democratic party. On one side you have the establishment Dems like Pelosi and company and on the other you have the far left. Take notice of where these riots are occurring and who is in charge of the governments in those cities. The police departments under attack are the police departments of Democrat run administrations. The racist policies that have fueled the riots are the policies of Democrat run city and state governments, that have been in power for decades.

The establishment Dems are scared, the far left has dragged them so far away from the values that were once the foundation of classical American liberalism that it has become unbearable for many moderate and center left Democrat voters. Pelosi and Co. have bent the knee and tried to say all the right things to appease the extremists but all they have seemed to accomplish was to alienate the Democrat core and pushing more voters to Trump. It has to be a very uncomfortable position. If the Dem elite take action to quell the mayhem they will become the target of the extremist, if they continue to do nothing majority public opinion will turn against them. Either way they're screwed, and they know it.

Hillary just went on record advising Biden not to concede if he loses. She said that no matter what the actual outcome is the Dems can not accept it and will keep fighting until they win. Really. Even Don Lemon is worried because all the rioting is showing an effect on polling data and it's not good. Today Rasmussen reported Trumps approval at 52% while Trump and Biden are in a dead heat in fifteen battleground states. And this is before the pollsters have figured out a way of counting the "deplorables". Yep they're still out there and are pretty much uncounted. I guess we'll all find out in November.

Wow! After refusing federal help for two days of carnage the Gov. of Wisconsin has asked for federal troops, wow!

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@Black

Let's be honest Kyle is a thug!

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P. Smith - Completley read from a teleprompter and written by someone else. Isn’t that the exact criticism you leveled against Biden’s speech?

When poor ol' Biden speaks, he appears to have suffered from a stroke. It wouldn't be fair to expect Biden to speak without having him read a speech written by someone else, and scrolling it across a teleprompter.

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"I wonder why they care who is president." They are basically mad-hatter libertarians and latter-day anarchists who refuse to acknowledge the authority of the federal or state government unless it supports their views, and under his illegitimate term in office the US has descended into armed vigilanteism and anarchy, giving them free rein to follow their worst impulses.

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u_s__reamer - Children's minds are so impressionable and when the warp speed of raging teenage hormones kicks in, it can mass produce cookie-cutter.

...This child truly knew not what he was doing. Another American tragedy.

That certainly explains the mindset of the rioter, looters, arsonists, protestors who are currently destroying so many democrat party controlled cities. Come to Kenosha, and Portland, and Chicago, and Minneapolis where rioter, looters, arsonists, protestors are allowed to ply their trade without worrying about being arrested. Where the complaints from law-abiding citizens who are losing their jobs, and businesses, and homes will be ignored.

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@Black

very clear message from Mike Pence. inclusive and decisive.

Another great eat job getting off topic once you realize that you have no logical argument.

In regards to Pence, he mentioned that two police officers in Oakland was shot and killed during a peaceful BLM protest.

What Pence forgot to mention was that the shooter is connected to a Conservative Hate Group.

An officer was gunned down. The killer was a ‘boogaloo boy’ using nearby peaceful protests as cover, feds say.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/06/17/boogaloo-steven-carrillo/

Yeah, misleading is what you consider clear, inclusive, and decisive!

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What is wrong with some Americans?

Rioting after a convicted criminal is shot about to pull a knife on law enforcement?

It is an absolutely pathetic reaction!

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The article forgets to mention that this racist individual is a trump supporter and was doing what his supporters everywhere do and encourage others to do, target minorities.

Killing innocent people because of your warped idea of race and being encouraged by the police to do that can only happen in trump's America.

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Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. Resisting arrest while threatening police with a knife does increase your chances of being shot by police.

Yup, I'm totally comfortable with that. If I ever do something stupid and the police shoot me in the back 7 times in front of my children, its all my fault because the second I do something stupid its open season on me!

Got it, that is the perfect standard by which to hold police accountable for their own actions and I cannot think of a single bad thing that would result from that.

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Killing innocent people because of your warped idea of race and being encouraged by the police to do that can only happen in trump's America.

I sure hope liberals listen to that, but for the last 3 months with the people and police that we killed because of the lawlessness that the liberals are allowing is just off the charts. But it's no big deal, as long as they can get rid of Trump, but let's just focus only on conservatives.

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"President Trump and I will always support the right of Americans to peaceful protest"

Really? So why tear gas peaceful protesters outside the White House?

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But it's no big deal, as long as they can get rid of Trump, but let's just focus only on conservatives.

trump is not conservative!!!

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