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Keystone pipeline canceled after Biden blocks permit

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Good.

Gasoline will be worthless sooner than most think:

New research from Morgan Stanley argues that traditional internal combustion engines—the mainstay of automobiles for more than a century—are destined to become money-losers as early as 2030. 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/finance.yahoo.com/amphtml/news/gasoline-is-becoming-worthless-210636353.html

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Finally! Enough pretending that this pipeline wouldn’t have been a destructive, leaking gash right through the country. Good riddance.

Resistance is not futile.

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What bothered me most about this pipeline is the way land was taken from private landowners and tribes by eminent domain. Eminent domain should be used very sparingly and only for public infrastructure. It should never under any circumstances be used to confiscate land from one private land owner to be given to another private land owner. And Native American tribes should never be forced to surrender a square millimeter of the little land they have by any level of government for any reason.

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It's been dead since the Obama era. Trump said he would resurrect it, but after saying that, as usual, he didn't actually have the competence to do anything to make it happen. Once again Biden is just cleaning up another Trump-era screw-up.

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Keystone pipeline canceled after Biden blocks permit

And nothing of value was lost.

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A win for Native Americans/Haters of the KP

The win for the Native Americans makes it worthwhile.

As we switch to electric vehicles, crude will become less necessary anyways.

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The Lac-Mégantic rail disaster occurred in the town of Lac-Mégantic, in the Eastern Townships region of Quebec, Canada, at approximately 01:15 EDT, on July 6, 2013, when an unattended 73-car freight train carrying Bakken Formation crude oil rolled down a 1.2% grade from Nantes and derailed downtown, resulting in the fire and explosion of multiple tank cars.

It was a runaway train that derailed.

Keystone Pipeline Spill History

There are many.

https://boldnebraska.org/keystone-pipeline-spill-history/

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Well, that won’t be for a very long time.

Electric vehicles are expected to outnumber gas vehicles by 2030.

There’s no way we will give up crude oil

You're right, same as we never gave up coal, or firewood. But we'll use a lot less of it. Enough that not having this pipeline is a good thing.

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Biblemoneymatters

is that a take on the dollar bill, "In God We Trust?"

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Well, that won’t be for a very long time. There’s no way we will give up crude oil, unless you want to give up…

https://www.biblemoneymatters.com/7-important-uses-for-crude-oil-and-why-it-matters/

This is your most laughable citation yet.

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Supporters of the pipeline would object if it ran across their land.

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There's going to be a point when new EV car sales will outnumber new IC car sales, and later on a point where the number of EV cars on the road will be bigger than the number of IC cars on the road.

Those are both significant moments, but not THE significant moment. The most significant moment will be when more money is being spent on designing new EV models than IC models.

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bass4funk

you don't have to worry about the pipeline crossing your lands.

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you don't have to worry about the pipeline crossing your lands.

I don't worry at all, either way, it's still coming, it'll be more dangerous coming by rail, but if you can

t do it one way, you find another.

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Bass- what's a few thousand barrels of oil spilled by derailments and a few lives lost due to the occasional explosions? See Canada a few years ago. Who honestly believes rail is better for the environment than pipe?

But the rich guys made out again. Buffet and others made sure they got their positions in the rail companies.

It is also sad for America that Biden cancels Keystone and hurts the energy industry, yet supports Russia's energy industry by removing sanctions on its NordStream pipeline to Europe.

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If Japan runs a pipeline in your own area, people would object

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I agree

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As oil production has surged in North Dakota’s Bakken region and Alberta’s oil patch, the volume of oil moved by rail has increased exponentially. With the rapid growth of “crude by rail” has come a series of derailments, some involving explosions and one, in Lac Megantic, Que., resulting in nearly 50 fatalities.

The crude from Canada, far less flammable than that from the Bakken, is unlikely to explode. But the tar-like oil does present major cleanup problems if it spills, particularly in water.

Without Keystone XL, more crude will likely move by rail both to Canada’s Atlantic and Pacific coasts and down into the U.S.

Last month the State Department released an environmental impact statement predicting three possible scenarios if the President decides to block the pipeline. All three point to more crude by rail. The oil would either 1) move to Oklahoma by train before being shipped by existing pipelines, 2) ship by rail to British Columbia before being loaded on tankers, or 3) travel directly by rail from Alberta to the Gulf.

In addition to the potential for derailments, shipping oil by rail is more expensive than moving it via pipeline, which could add to the end cost for consumers.

(That will definitely help the GOP)

Regardless, some companies are already moving forward with rail transport expansion, independent of Keystone’s fate.

-NBC

So basically in more simpler terms:

A win for Native Americans/Haters of the KP

A lose for Democrats and their hopes about stopping “fossil fuel.”

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The win for the Native Americans makes it worthwhile.

For them, I don’t have a problem, their right to contest it.

As we switch to electric vehicles, crude will become less necessary anyways.

Well, that won’t be for a very long time. There’s no way we will give up crude oil, unless you want to give up…

https://www.biblemoneymatters.com/7-important-uses-for-crude-oil-and-why-it-matters/

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Electric vehicles are expected to outnumber gas vehicles by 2030.

Not really

https://www.greencarreports.com/news/1089240_gasoline-cars-to-remain-dominant-in-2040-energy-agency-says

You're right, same as we never gave up coal, or firewood.

We still use them

But we'll use a lot less of it.

Not for a very long time

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Supporters of the pipeline would object if it ran across their land.

I get it. Will just have to come in through a more dirtier route, so long as we get it, I’m good.

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