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King Charles thanks public for their 'love' as he marks death of late mother, Queen Elizabeth

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...Prince Andrew, who had to quit royal duties over his friendship with convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein.

Or,

...Prince Andrew, who had to quit royal duties over the fact that he was was an active participant in Jeffrey Epstein's prostitution ring and for having sex with a minor, a crime he denied, but for which he only had to pay damages of 12 million pounds.

Words do matter, innit?

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ClippetyClop

The figure for 'the monarchy is good for the country' is actually 32%. They give a variety of figures and I think you're looking at a different question.

I only give this figure because I was making the point about young people. After all, the future of the monarchy is in their hands, not old people. I agree with another commenter who stated 'I don't think it will happen in my time'.

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According to the UK government's own figures, less than one third of 18-24 year olds think the monarchy is good for the country.

Untrue. It's 37%, which is more than 1/3.

You also forgot to mention that every other age group beyond that slim 6 year sample was in favour of the monarchy.

As Brits get older, they are more likely to support the monarchy.

Personally I don't care either way but let's get it right, on the whole Brits support the King.

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Royal family support is down to 47%.

Ha ha ha. What rubbish.

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Jimizo,

Humbly, it maybe best to start with the constitutional, the scenario that would prompt a nation to collectively say through a referenda, the background media debate, how that binary vote would be fashioned, the process question that provoked abolish the monarchy.

It would be revolutionary no.

A modern day peasants revolt?

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According to the UK government's own figures, less than one third of 18-24 year olds think the monarchy is good for the country. In another poll taken before the coronation 75% of young people were not interested the coronation at all and only 18% were. Presumably this minority were the ones 'packing the pubs to the rafters'.

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Jimizo

The parliamentary establishment is an institution created/formed to be the political physical embodiment that beheaded a King to ensure that a head of state would never interfere in UK democratic process.

So the likelihood of a democratically elected head of state over a appointed career diplomat or political grandee able to secure power and influence, with the necessary control over the process to select a candidate able to influence the all powerful mandarins in control of civil service, the permanent secretaries, will always prevail.

Tony Blair, well that depends, never say never.

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I find the British royals completely repulsive

A bit harsh.

I find the system which puts them in this position absolutely ridiculous but I can’t despise them as individuals.

Oh, maybe Andrew. Appalling specimen.

In some ways, you can sympathize that they are a bit weird ( no excuses for Andrew here ). They’ve been brought up in a weird environment.

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Royal family support is down to 47%.

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Charles the last. Not my king.

A minority of shouty people like you that have always been present over centuries.

@N.Knight. Quite agree. Anti-Royalists tend to shout a lot. But as the old saying goes "Empty vessal's make most noise".

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Don't be lulled into the belief that, any celebrity activist would ever have the political/diplomatic experience to fulfil such a role

Why does it have to be a ‘celebrity activist ‘ for head of state?

It’s often Tony Blair who comes up for some unknown reason when discussing an elected head of state.

Not a genuine argument.

Prince Andrew

Good job Andrew wasn’t next in line after Elizabeth left us, eh?

Got lucky with the dice on that one.

The British monarchy is as strong as ever

Support for it isn’t.

Yes it is

Not from the polls I’ve seen.

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Monarchy, or an elected head of state?

Quote......

The highest representative of a sovereign state, who may or may not also be its head of government. The role of the head of state is primarily representative, serving to symbolize the unity and integrity of the state at home and abroad.......Britannica

Don't be lulled into the belief that, any celebrity activist would ever have the political/diplomatic experience to fulfil such a role, or ever be given serious consideration from an parliamentary establishment elite institution in Great Britain.

For over seven-hundred years the nation state right up to modern political thinking, the British people may view Monarchy as a relic of a bygone aristocratic age, however above political intrigue, in essence when political oversight becomes interference.

The present toxic malaise is the right-wing media, the Royal household, in cahoots with a parliamentary establishment is attempting to cast Prince Harry /Meghan Markle in the same breath as Prince Andrew.

Please view ……

Right-wing media 'treating Harry and Andrew as equals' | James O'Brien on LBC

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_cRBzmOQGs

Unless King Charles pulls himself together, then the Monarchy as we all know it could be surplus to requirements.

James O'Brien is brutal in his put down.  

A follow up... 

James O'Brien vs Prince Andrew apologist | LBC

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7vdR3qeotc&t=60s

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Support for it isn’t.

Yes it is

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Charles the last. Not my king.

A minority of shouty people like you that have always been present over centuries.

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2,000 Guineas at Newmarket with..... put on a silly hat.

2,000 Guineas... talking about silly hats.

One of the most disliked men in the country ...

More nonsense

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UK is still living in the 13th century

The monarchy is an outdated institution that no longer serves a meaningful role in modern society.

Rubbish

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British monarchy was not strong enough for the US colonies

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Great friend of Jimmy Saville.

Let them stay but don't use the poor tax payer to support them.

Charles the last. Not my king.

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So much. We need our symbols. Rather have a reasonable guy like him being praised than a psycho dictator in North Korea or Russia.

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The Monarchy is struggling to change with the times and I don't envy the King attempting to maintain historical tradition while trying to also remain relevant in modern society.

I think it will be Willam and Kate that make or break the monarchy. King Charles is (and I realize that I am an outsider) in my view, a place-holder.

Kind of feel sorry for the current king. He trained for so long, but his late predecessor was such a tough act to follow. Holding the fort is about as much as I think one could expect.

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 Incidentally, my cousin's pub in the UK was packed to the rafters with young and old on King Charles's coronation day, in front of the big TV screen.

Er...

Bournemouth v Chelsea

Tottenham H. v Crystal Palace

Wolves v Aston Villa

Liverpool v Brentford

2,000 Guineas at Newmarket with other full racing schedules at Doncaster and other courses

Premier League Rugby

But sure, they are all there to see one of the most disliked men in the country put on a silly hat.

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To be honest all the younger people care about is themselves and whether or not they'll boil away as the planet supposedly becomes a space barbeque... they don't believe in institutions, royal or otherwise.

As long as they can have their overpriced coffee, hold up traffic as they cycle to their uni try to make older generations feel guilty they're happy...

Personally, I'm a royalist... In a civil war I'd be on the side of the King ^_^

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Support for the royal family is declining especially with younger people. But I think it will outlast me.

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Didn't know anything about Balmoral Castle. Nice place! - apparently, lotsa tartan. Coupla good articles with photos and a video of a young Queen Elisabeth dancing at the Ghillies Ball.

https://www.elledecor.com/celebrity-style/celebrity-homes/a40969807/balmoral-castle/

https://www.townandcountrymag.com/society/tradition/a40861935/queen-elizabeth-ghillies-ball-balmoral-scotland/

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I'd rather have King Charles and the monarchy system than a politicised presidential system. Yes, the monarchy isn't perfect, but what system is?

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The British monarchy is as strong as ever

Support for it isn’t.

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The death of Queen Elizabeth is the beginning of the end of the monarchy in the UK, thank goodness. 

Every time a senior member of the British Royal Family passed away, one hears such comments. The British monarchy is as strong as ever. Incidentally, my cousin's pub in the UK was packed to the rafters with young and old on King Charles's coronation day, in front of the big TV screen.

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Especially amongst young people there's very little support for its continuation, and even for this oldie the end can't come soon enough

Not sure it’s coming in the short-term, but I think the idea that the biggest fear for the royals is indifference rather than peasants storming the gates is about right.

The royal thing is all just kind of silly now.

"The bond between country and monarch is sacred," Sunak said

Make yourself useful for once and get the ‘sacred’ arm of the monarchy to pay their taxes.

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UK is still living in the 13th century

The monarchy is an outdated institution that no longer serves a meaningful role in modern society.

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The death of Queen Elizabeth is the beginning of the end of the monarchy in the UK, thank goodness. Especially amongst young people there's very little support for its continuation, and even for this oldie the end can't come soon enough.

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I Love you King Charles!

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