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Knife crimes soar to record in England and Wales

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... and of course this knife crime wave occurs without any context, just randomly. Got to love the corporate media.

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and of course this knife crime wave occurs without any context, just randomly. Got to love the corporate media.

Yep, absolutely no mention of the appalling impact of nearly 10 years of Tory austerity on the British public:

Front-line police numbers down by 21000

Per-pupil spending down by 8% (20% on over-16s according to BBC News last week)

1189 Sure Start centres closed

760 youth clubs closed

Teens stabbed up by 93%

NHS A&E crisis at a 14-year high

NHS patient satisfaction at an 11-year low of 53%

Rough sleeping up by an astonishing 163%

Foodbank usage up to a shaming 1.3m

A horrific 4.1 million children in poverty

2,620 deaths of rough sleepers

Two out of three children in poverty in working households – the idea that work is a route out of poverty is a lie for millions

100 NHS walk-in centres closed

600 police stations closed

675 libraries closed

760 youth centres closed

470 schools closed

50 fire stations closed

433 HMRC tax offices closed

100 Job Centres closed

700 public tennis courts closed

https://skwawkbox.org/2019/03/12/list-of-tory-achievements-makes-horrifying-reading/

Take 21,000 police off the streets, close everywhere young teenagers can go to do stuff and destroy the domestic economy for most people, that's a recipe for disaster. And now the insane Brexit will destroy what's left of the economy and cause the break up of the UK. Well done Tories, top top work.

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That's literally just the tip of the iceberg. The real issue is hate crime. Hate crime in England is similar to America back in the 50s and 60s. According to Human Right Organizations, between 2015 and 2016, there were 62,518 recorded hate crimes in England, 79 percent of which were motivated by racial hatred. For comparison, there were 5,850 recorded hate crimes in the United States for the same period. United States, a continental size nation with over 300 million people has over 6 times less hate crime than England, a tiny island nation of 50 million people. This fact alone speak volumes.

People here complain about racism in Japan.. but racism in England is on another level. Minorities and foreigners in England live in constant fear of being abused on a daily basis, told to go back home, or shouted racial slurs on the streets. Foreigners in Japan are treated like tourists, even if they have lived in Japan for 50 years, but foreigners in England are treated like sub-humans. "No Poles required", "Polish vermin F-off!" signs are casual sight in England. Can you imagine seeing that in Japan or America? It would be all over the news, but in England, that's casual.

I recently listened a news story about a German old lady whose English husband passed away, she says she is terrorized almost regularly. People are throwing food at her house, and one time she was out sitting at a bench, speaking with a relative from Germany in German, when a gang of English thugs approached her and shouted at her "F-off to EU!!". Can you imagine so much hate against foreigners in one place? The mainstream media is ignoring this, because most of the mainstream media is English media, and the American media only relies on the English press.

You think i am exaggerating? Look at this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4aNLTEdGUyw

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Knife culture has been imported en masse to the UK. But we mustnt say it.

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@kestrel Knife culture has been imported en masse to the UK. But we mustnt say it.

Who's 'we'? I've read that lots of Russians are living in the UK.

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As I have always said, if you want to hurt or kill someone, if you don’t have a gun, the next most lethal weapon is the knife.

Knife culture has been imported en masse to the UK. But we mustnt say it.

Oh, most definitely. When I was living in Europe as a teenager in Germany, we had a lot of knife attacks, it wasn’t that much of an uncommon thing.

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As I have always said, if you want to hurt or kill someone, if you don’t have a gun, the next most lethal weapon is the knife.

Right! That's why we need to get rid of guns, since knives are so much less deadly.

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@bass4 When I was living in Europe as a teenager in Germany, we had a lot of knife attacks, it wasn’t that much of an uncommon thing.

Are you going to re-tell the account of your knife fight victory while growing up in Germany? Or are you saying it's Germans in the UK who are leading the increase in knife attacks there.

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Makes me think of Sir Condoms(Mason) comment that the British people are the greatest danger to the nation. Distroying the nation by design.

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... and of course this knife crime wave occurs without any context, just randomly. Got to love the corporate media

I must admit that was my first reaction.

An unwillingness to focus on who is primarily involved doesn’t help anyone.

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As I have always said, if you want to hurt or kill someone, if you don’t have a gun, the next most lethal weapon is the knife.

Great argument for keeping guns out of circulation.

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When will the British Government learn that unless it provides enough ping pong tables for the youths, they'll start stabbing anyone and everyone within sight?

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Give young people nothing to do and nowhere to go and criminal elements will happily step in and provide them. Especially if there are fewer officers to police the streets.

Remember you can finance lots of education and training with the cost of incarcerating someone for a year. We either pay to help people make more of themselves or suffer crime and pay more to lock them up.

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The May government sacked/fired 20,000 police officers and shut down many hundreds of police stations. They changed the housing benefits reducing payments for many and also the way welfare are calculated.

As I have always said, if you want to hurt or kill someone, if you don’t have a gun, the next most lethal weapon is the knife.

not judging by the Kyoto fire bombing yesterday with 33 dead.

I have two young grandchildren in London so everytime I see an attack report I have to read it. One happened at the tube station nearest their home.

Oh, most definitely. When I was living in Europe as a teenager in Germany, we had a lot of knife attacks, it wasn’t that much of an uncommon thing.

Good job you didn't need to grow up Liverpool, there they don't need a knife, they use a very painful head butty, right between the eyes. I guess you are suggesting "send them back" those Germans.

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Assault and robbery but homicides were less. In 2017, there were 285 knife homicides. A fearful figure by UK standards. In 1977 half that figure. 79% of attacks involved no weapons.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-42749089

But it was like American and we had the guns on the streets, how many more would be killed.

40,000 people killed in shootings in 2017, in America.

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@ilovecofee

The UK is one of the least racist countries in the world.

But I know you hate the UK and the British people, so you have to have your tuppence worth. You best watch out though, in the UK, a hate crime is defined as:

'*Any criminal offence which is perceived by the victim or any other person, to be motivated by hostility or prejudice based on a person's race or perceived race; religion or perceived religion; sexual orientation or perceived sexual orientation; disability or perceived disability and any crime motivated by hostility or prejudice against a person who is transgender or perceived to be transgender.'*

https://www.met.police.uk/advice/advice-and-information/hco/hate-crime/what-is-hate-crime/

I perceive your constant anti British comments as a form of bigotry which targets those of British nationality.

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That's literally just the tip of the iceberg. The real issue is hate crime. Hate crime in England is similar to America back in the 50s and 60s. According to Human Right Organizations, between 2015 and 2016, there were 62,518 recorded hate crimes in England, 79 percent of which were motivated by racial hatred.

There were 80,393 offences in 2016-17, compared with 62,518 in 2015-16 - the largest increase since the Home Office began recording figures in 2011-12.

The biggest rise was in disability and transgender hate crimes, but this was due to better crime recording and more people coming forward, the report said.

It also noted a spike in hate crime around the time of the EU referendum.

The hate crimes rose after the terrorists attacks.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-41648865

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What are the motives for the stabbings?

What's the motive for stabbing a pregnant woman to death?

Are the stabbings being carried out by teenagers?

Are the stabbings being carried out by minorities?

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Knife crime in London has risen over 2000% since Sadiq Khan took office as mayor. He's not fit to be in such a noble position!

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Knife crime in London has risen over 2000% since Sadiq Khan took office as mayor. He's not fit to be in such a noble position!

Mass shootings in the US have over doubled since Trump took office.

Is he fit to be in such a noble position? And if not, then how does your simplistic evaluation on the fitness of the mayor of London not have equal value as a simplistic evaluation on the fitness of the president of the US?

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Trump and the USA and guns is not the topic, Khan and the UK and knives are.

Is Khan not responsible for what is happening?

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According to Human Right Organizations, between 2015 and 2016, there were 62,518 recorded hate crimes in England, 79 percent of which were motivated by racial hatred.

I think it is important to point out that the key word is 'recorded'.

When someone reports what they perceive to be a hate crime to the police, it has to be recorded. Please notice that the words 'arrest' or 'prosecution' don't appear. The vast majority of these hate crimes are not actually crimes, but daft complaints. Many police officers view may of these claims of hate crime as a waste of police time, but they have to record them anyway. These 'recorded' figures are then used to paint a false picture of a huge hate crime problem that doesn't actually exist.

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Hate crime in England and Wales

https://fullfact.org/crime/hate-crime-england-and-wales/

Is Khan not responsible for what is happening?

Khan is the mayor of London not the UK!

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Trump and the USA and guns is not the topic, Khan and the UK and knives are.

Is Khan not responsible for what is happening?

Many Trump supporters dislike Khan and also blame immigration for the rise in knife crime. Khan doesn’t have control over immigration into the UK and so that seems to be a non-starter.

@Stormcrow

Good post. Very commonsensical questions.

Can we please focus on who is doing this? The answers may be awkward, but this cannot be dealt with until we start getting honest.

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@Stormcrow

What are the motives for the stabbings?

Some are domestic disputes, but a large portion of these are gang territorial disputes or initiation attacks.

What's the motive for stabbing a pregnant woman to death?

The pregnant woman and unborn child were killed by her ex-partner. Motive remains unclear.

Are the stabbings being carried out by teenagers?

Yes, especially in London. However, some attacks are commited by men a little older in their 20s.

Are the stabbings being carried out by minorities?

Not all, but a disproportionate amount of these attackw are being carried out by people from BAME backgrounds.

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Don't think it's a uniquely English pbm tbh. From what i have seen, heard and read, there's a similar phenomenon in europe (mostly in germany, sweden, france, the neth/belgium etc) where young ppl shoot/kill each other (often, but not always, gang/drugs-related).

The only noticeable difference is that in England knives/machetes are the weapon of choice vs guns/ak47 on euro soil.

Re 'who's involved/responsible', reckon this is valid for most (north/western) EU countries & the uk:

"Most of the shooters and victims are unemployed young men with immigrant backgrounds, under 30 years of age, living in disadvantaged neighbourhoods and often without a high school diploma."

https://www.thelocal.se/20190704/in-depth-whats-behind-the-rise-in-gang-violence-across-sweden

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Something not covered in the statistics that I would love to see- the relation between single motherhood and crime amongst children raised in that situation. How many of the criminals were boys brought up in single parent homes?

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Right! That's why we need to get rid of guns, since knives are so much less deadly.

They can be.

Knife crime in London has risen over 2000% since Sadiq Khan took office as mayor. He's not fit to be in such a noble position

I agree.

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Knife crime in London has risen over 2000% since Sadiq Khan took office as mayor. He's not fit to be in such a noble position

Incorrect on both points.

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Is Khan not responsible for what is happening?

To a limited extent, in London, yes. Outside of London, not really.

Before becoming Mayor of London, Khan vowed to end stop and search. He said certain members of the community were being unfairly targeted and it was a form of racial discrimination.

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/sadiq-khan-i-d-do-everything-in-my-power-to-cut-stop-and-search-a2924706.html

After doing so, knife crime shot up again. Such a bad move was his mistake that he had to re-introduce stop and search.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/sadiq-khan-stop-search-london-crime-plan-violence-police-metropolitan-stabbings-acid-murder-moped-a8152371.html

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Sadiq Khan became the Mayor of London on May 9, 2016.

In 2016/17 there were 12,110 knife crimes.

In 2018/19 there were 14,840 knife crimes

An increase of 2,730 crimes or a 22% increase.

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@zichi

When you see those figures, it's concerning it's risen so much, so quickly.

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What is the utility of firearms outside of killing compared to that of knives?

What are the relative harmful externalities?

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Knife crime in London has risen over 2000% since Sadiq Khan took office as mayor. He's not fit to be in such a noble position

I agree.

Why do you agree with incorrect numbers?

Is it because you like them?

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An increase of 2,730 crimes or a 22% increase

That's well on the way to being 2,000%.

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the appalling impact of nearly 10 years of Tory austerity

The real issue is hate crime

lots of Russians 

 ping pong tables

LOL, got to love the desperate fumbling to stick to a PC narrative. 

Here’s a weird idea - it could be a combination of elements and not just the one which is contained in the political package you swallowed whole.

Crazy idea, eh?

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That's literally just the tip of the iceberg. The real issue is hate crime. Hate crime in England is similar to America back in the 50s and 60s. According to Human Right Organizations, between 2015 and 2016, there were 62,518 recorded hate crimes in England, 79 percent of which were motivated by racial hatred. For comparison, there were 5,850 recorded hate crimes in the United States for the same period. United States, a continental size nation with over 300 million people has over 6 times less hate crime than England, a tiny island nation of 50 million people. This fact alone speak volumes.

@ILoveCoffee - This is a false assertion - England is a pretty well-integrated nation, particularly in relation to the USA which still has enormous problems with race and still a population that lives almost entirely separately in neighbourhoods that are nearly 100% white or black.

The "hate crime" figures you quote are purely down to recording methodology - what is recorded as a "hate crime" in England would not be in the USA.

Minorities and foreigners in England live in constant fear of being abused on a daily basis, told to go back home, or shouted racial slurs on the streets.

Laughable nonsense. It will occasionally happen, and is terrible, but very rare.

"No Poles required", "Polish vermin F-off!" signs are casual sight in England. 

No they are not - never seen one in my life. Perhaps somewhere somebody has scrawled this on a wall, but your assertion that they are "casual" is simply a lie and an attempt to spread misinformation.

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Knife crime in London has risen over 2000% since Sadiq Khan took office as mayor. He's not fit to be in such a noble position

Incorrect on both points.

Yeah, liberals try and spin it.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-42749089

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/violent-knife-crime-rise-stabbing-murders-reasons-increase-london-why-a8326171.html

Even in the German media is reporting on this. So when it comes to believing the stats and experience over the posters, the posters are going to lose all day long.

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Knife crime in London has risen over 2000% since Sadiq Khan took office as mayor. He's not fit to be in such a noble position

Incorrect on both points.

Yeah, liberals try and spin it.

It’s basic mathematics. Knife crime has not risen by 2000%. It’s got nothing to do with spin.

Why did you agree with the post containing incorrect numbers? Can’t you do basic maths?

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Even in the German media is reporting on this. So when it comes to believing the stats and experience over the posters, the posters are going to lose all day long.

The stats you posted confirmed that Belrick lied and that the 2000% statistic is wrong.

I can't believe I'm saying this for what seems like the 100th time, but: READ. YOUR. SOURCES.

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It’s basic mathematics.

Most liberals aren’t that great in math.

There were 43,516 knife crime offences in the 12 months ending March 2019. 

This is an 80% increase from the low-point in the year ending March 2014, when there were 23,945 offences, and is the highest number since comparable data was compiled. 

These statistics do not include those from Greater Manchester Police because of data recording issues.

Out of the 44 police forces, 43 recorded a rise in knife crime since 2011

Ok, You can believe that, I don’t.

https://www.spiegel.de/panorama/justiz/grossbritannien-zahl-der-gewalttaten-durch-messer-steigt-was-sind-die-gruende-a-1270211.html

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I can't believe I'm saying this for what seems like the 100th time, but: READ. YOUR. SOURCES

I really get a chuckle when liberals try to school people on checking sources. Hey, be so kind and tell that to all of the media networks with deplorable ratings and retractions. I wish they would do just that.

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It’s basic mathematics.

Most liberals aren’t that great in math.

I don’t think liberal or conservative has much to do with it. I majored in Physics and Maths and I didn’t see any evidence that political persuasion is indicative of maths skills.

So you are quoting sources and stating yourself that the 2000% rise in knife crime isn’t correct.

Good. You are getting the basics. Accuracy matters in Maths, as does spelling, grammar and logic when writing.

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bass4funk

Yeah, liberals try and spin it.

In 2016 when Khan office in the fifth month, the London knife crimes were 12,110 so according to you by 2019 there has been a 2000% increased which would be 242,200, more than the entire country of about 50,000.

Your BBC link shows London knife crime for year ending March 2019, at 170 cases for 100,000 residents.

The London pop is 9 million. So that would equal 15,300 knife crimes, an increase of 3,190. that figure is nearer to 20% increase, not 2,000%

When compared to your gun crimes under Trump have risen to the highest level, in 20 years.

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2018 was London's bloodiest year in almost a decade as the murder toll reached 132. There were 73 deaths involving a knife, 13 involving a gun and one a crossbow.

In 2017 under the Trump watch there were 40,000 gunshot deaths the highest in 50 years.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/18/us/gun-deaths.html

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Your BBC link shows London knife crime for year ending March 2019, at 170 cases for 100,000 residents.

For a country that small, that’s no drop in the bucket. Still one too many. Scary!

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Idle hands are the devil's workshop. Everyone needs a decent job, a hobby, friends, but most of all they need to respect themselves

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bass4funk

For a country that small, that’s no drop in the bucket. Still one too many. Scary!

Yes of course, you have have a greater chance of bring shot dead in America than being involved in a UK knife crime. The numbers of knife crimes are the ones reported to the police. That includes all reports whether the person was stabbed or not. It's not the number of deaths by knife. That figure is much smaller.

There's still a major problem with acid attacks but less than before.

The stats of 170 per 100,000 residents has nothing to do with the size of the country's population. Cases per 100,000 stats are made so they can be compared with stats from another country.

In London, in 2018 there were 132 murders by all types of weapons or not. In New York City for the same period there were 289 murders.

All American cities have higher murder rates than the UK.

St. Louis is the 13th in the world. UK cities won't even make it into the top 50 cities for murder rates.

Hope you have learnt something?

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intentional homicide rate

United States 5.3 per 100,000

United Kingdom 1.20 per 100,000

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and one a crossbow.

Always thought England was a longbow nation. Hashtag RememberAgincourt.

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Hope you have learnt something?

Yes, indeed! 170 knife attacks in a country that size is too much, too scary.

In London, in 2018 there were 132 murders by all types of weapons or not.

Again, for the size, scary!

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In London, in 2018 there were 132 murders by all types of weapons or not.

Three times more in America. New York 289 murders.

That is what is scary.

You ignore the stats.

You can download and read the parliament report.

https://researchbriefings.parliament.uk/ResearchBriefing/Summary/SN04304#fullreport

Trump watch gunshot deaths, highest in 20 years. Another senior NRA director forced out last week.

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That is what is scary

As is London, I find it scary as well.

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Crime rate stats are given by the number committed per 100,000 people and as nothing to do with the size of the population. The murder rate in America is more than three times that of England and Wales.

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The murder rate in America is more than three times that of England and Wales.

We are a larger country with a larger population, so it makes sense, however, for the size of the country, it’s still out of control and especially the city, it’s very significant, alarming indeed.

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We are a larger country with a larger population, so it makes sense, however, for the size of the country, it’s still out of control and especially the city, it’s very significant, alarming indeed.

No in your country, 100,000 people is exactly the same as 100,000 people in England/Wales or 100,000 people in Japan or even 100,000 people on the moon. 100,000 is the same number in every country. You are just playing dumb.

The murder rate in America per 100,000 people is more than three the murder rate per 100,000 people in England and Wales. (Scotland) have their own figures.

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No in your country, 100,000 people is exactly the same as 100,000 people in England/Wales or 100,000 people in Japan or even 100,000 people on the moon. 100,000 is the same number in every country. You are just playing dumb.

The murder rate in America per 100,000 people is more than three the murder rate per 100,000 people in England and Wales. (Scotland) have their own figures.

But for London nonetheless, it’s still scary for even a city that size.

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One figure America exceeds above all other countries are the 2.3 million people in prison.

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London is larger than any city in America.

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@bass4funk

Yeah, liberals try and spin it.

Well, some of the rightwing regulars on JT have tried to spin this as a problem related to Sadiq Khan. You're own response to the idiotic statement that Khan is not fit to be in such a "noble" position as Mayor of London (a post created rather recently, in 1998), was "I agree".

So, instead of liberal spin, how about attempting to digest some actual context?

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/624/cpsprodpb/17078/production/_104182349_met_homicide_chart-note-nc.png

The graph shows homicides in London (those are Home Office figures) going back to 2008. Sadiq Khan has been Mayor of London in only 3 of the 11 years in the graph. In one of those years - it happens to be a slightly lower figure - he did not become mayor until May. The graph doesn't give a final total for 2018: it was 134 as of December 31.

There were 116 homicides in 2017; five years in the graph before Khan became mayor had more homicides. Boris Johnson was mayor for four of those years, as well as the period between May and December 2008.

If you're foolish enough to think the blame for violent crime can be laid at the feet of the person who happens to be mayor in a given year, these figures leave you with some explaining to do: if Johnson was so much better than Khan at handling violent crime, how is it that he failed to bring the figures consistently below Khan's? And why do the figures fluctuate during the time he was mayor, up one year and down the next?

Perhaps instead of blaming liberal spin, a more realistic approach for you would be to accept that no mayor of London has been completely on top of this problem, no mayor is likely to be in the near future, and that anyway, you're quibbling about "liberal" versus "conservative" figures that aren't easily explained and amount to no more than a handful of murders - down by 14 one year, up by 3 the next, down by 17 the next and up again by 15 the following year (that was all Boris Johnson by the way).

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London is larger than any city in America

Exactly and you just made my point for me, scary

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If you're foolish enough to think the blame for violent crime can be laid at the feet of the person who happens to be mayor.

Still his city and still his job. Had Giuliani made as many excuses, NYC would still be the murder capital of the modern first world nation world.

Perhaps instead of blaming liberal spin, a more realistic approach for you would be to accept that no mayor of London has been completely on top of this problem, 

We’re talking about Khan, I’m not accepting that garbage, “oh well” approach. They said the same about Giuliani and he cleaned up NYC, now that DeBlasio has been Mayor it’s sliding back into crime and this is the difference, liberals are always weak on crime.

you have reduced yourself to a wind-up merchant, not so good from someone claiming to be journalist.

No, I just have an opposing viewpoint.

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Still his city and still his job. Had Giuliani made as many excuses, NYC would still be the murder capital of the modern first world nation world.

Time to put down the bottle and go to bed.

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Compared to Japan, the UK is a War Zone - but compared to the US it's well I guess, just another day in Gotham City....

From pictures shown in the media a lot of these knife crimes are between Kids of Coloured background, and are deemed Gang related. The local media even reports kids as young as 7 being used as Drug mules between gangs and Dealers. However, the Media is also quite sensationalist, (and willing to kick up a response one way of another) you can read one version from one source, and find a few words missing in another to make the story seem even more dramatic... so it's hard to tell the real situation, except when told to you personally by those who you know who actually witnessed a situation.

The UK has changed significantly since I left it, and by the likes of things, Europe should be more than happy, perhaps even Paying the UK, to cut their ties with that cesspool of self-destruction lest it become infectious.

Maybe once isolated, the rats/locust will seek to jump ship and find another place more suitable for themselves, leaving the UK to finally rebuild itself upon it's own. It's going to require hard work, and tough times will be ahead - which may not suit a lot of those vermin, so encourage emigration, and on the other-hand, let those who want to be rewarded for their enterprises, stay and rebuild the Country - let's see where that takes us.

A Strong Government leader will be required, however no one at present fits the bill, neither Boris nor Corbyn for starters - and the alternatives are simply uninspiring has-beens... maybe putting a certain Scottish comedian with Dementia in charge would be more effective - at least he's got more marbles rolling around up there than a fair number in the House or Lords & Parliament combined - now wouldn't that give a chuckle to Robby Burns.

When Gordon Brown stated that Boris could be the last UK prime minister, I wasn't really surprised at that.... either for that of being a Prime Minister, or Prime Minister of a "United" Kingdom.

We shall see.

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@bass

What do you think is the root cause of growing knife crime in the UK?

After you identify this, what should Khan do within his powers as London Mayor ( bear in mind his budget which you must be aware of ) to stop this?

By the way, I’m no fan of Khan.

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@Tangerine2000 and Ah_so

I know truth hurts, especially when you are so accustomed to the one-sided narrative emanating from your press, but as it always happens, truth is like a ball, you can't keep it underwater forever, sooner or later it finds its way to the surface, and as it happens, i seem to be the only one with balls to speak out and expose the truth. My comments are mainly intended for Americans. Most Europeans are well aware of the reality of England. We all speak English, and we have access to your media and public discourse. I have no illusions that my comments will persuade any English person or anything, they are not intended for you, but to merely expose Americans to information they are never exposed to. And when i say information, i mean facts, not mere rhetoric.

You are right about the fact that, these hate crime numbers are only the ones that got actually reported, the real hate crime number is much larger, as hundreds, if not thousands of hate crimes goes unreported.

Polish people living in England scared to report hate crimes out of fear of retaliation. (https://www.theguardian.com/society/2017/jan/07/poles-lin-uk-scared-to-speak-up-on-hate-crimes)

Hard to imagine, isn't it? You want to deny this reality with every fiber of your body, but it just won't go away.

Furthermore, as i am sure you didn't watch the video i gave you, hate crimes is not the only abuse occurring in your country. Verbal abuse against minorities, such as the news story about the German lady i described above, are also regular. I have never met any long-term foreign-born resident of England who have never experienced some sort of abuse or discrimination. I guess if you work in academia, or something with high-profile people, you would probably experience less abuse, just the casual bigotry of low-expectations, but if you work anything that is close to the mainstream, there is no way you won't get abused and treated like sub-human animal.

Denying this fact and truth of your country, and denying the experiences of millions of foreigners and residents of foreign background living in your country is not going to fix the problem, you need to accept the truth and work towards becoming a more tolerant and less hate-filled society. You should perhaps start with the source of hate, which is the tabloids, the oligarchs running your country, and your educational system.

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What do you think is the root cause of growing knife crime in the UK? 

I really couldn’t say. My background where I’m from is I’m not a problem solver, more of a problem eliminator.

After you identify this, what should Khan do within his powers as London Mayor ( bear in mind his budget which you must be aware of ) to stop this? 

Step aside and let someone that really cares go in aggressively and try to fix the city. I remember the same liberal excuses being made in the 70’s about NYC and Giuliani proved them all wrong and DeBlasio has proven to be the exact opposite.

By the way, I’m no fan of Khan.

Neither am I.

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Or maybe... do a Donald Trump, (Zenophobic) lock down the borders between England, Scotland and Northern Ireland, and send those committing significant crimes back to whence they came from, an for non-UK nationals that would extend sending back those originally from overseas to their Cultural environment ...

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Here are some solutions for the UK government that academics have proposed:

**Stop stigmatising young people – listen to them instead

**Divert children and young people away from toxic environments and into positive, nurturing ones that meet their basic needs

**Invest in youth services, social care and extracurricular activities

**Provide educational support to reduce school exclusions and improve outcomes

**Work with families and communities to support, educate and rehabilitate young people

**Invest in community-based policing to restore trusting relations

**Create opportunities for training and employment to improve young people’s chances finding work and building professional relationships

http://theconversation.com/knife-crime-causes-and-solutions-editors-guide-to-what-our-academic-experts-say-113318

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My comments are mainly intended for Americans. Most Europeans are well aware of the reality of England. We all speak English, and we have access to your media and public discourse. I have no illusions that my comments will persuade any English person or anything, they are not intended for you, but to merely expose Americans to information they are never exposed to. And when i say information, i mean facts, not mere rhetoric.

@ILoveCoffee -

What you do is spread lies and disinformation for Americans to give them a misleading impression about the UK.

I am not going to claim that it is a paradise without any discrimination at all, but it achieves a good level of integration, with the exception of a few areas.

You point out a handful of cases and claim that they are representative - they simply aren't. Ask people of different ethnicities from the UK or those with foreign spouses. You seem to get your news from done weird sources.

Visit an office in London and you will see people from different backgrounds and nationalities working together as equals. Get on the tube and it will be incredibly diverse and it works.

The hate crime cases are due to reporting differences and technical differences in crime. As an example, all of the infamous Westboro Baptist Church fanatics who hold up "God hates fags" signs would all be attested in the UK. Even if they weren't, anyone who claimed would have it recorded as a hate incident. I think that in the USA they are protected by free speech laws.

Ps - dontcha just hate it when JT logs you out while typing?

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@Alfie Noakes

700 public tennis courts closed

I think you’ve put your finger on it.

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@zichi

One figure America exceeds above all other countries are the 2.3 million people in prison.

And you mean they shouldn’t be there?

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If the problem were knives, the solution would be simple: ban knives. But then forks would come next ...

The problem is people and for that there is no solution. Experiments in social engineering have failed.

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