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© Copyright 2023 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed without permission.Nikki Haley wins backing from powerful Koch network as she aims to take on Trump
By STEVE PEOPLES NEW YORK©2024 GPlusMedia Inc.
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plasticmonkey
Only fascists say things like this.
John
Well, Trump is a fascist….
So makes sense that he (and the goons he employs) would talk like that.
John
I loathe the Kochs and everything they stand for.
But if it would take Trump down and save us from the specter of his return, I’d make the deal and then scrub my skin off in the shower trying to get clean.
dagon
And the right blathers on about Soros.
The Koch's and the Citizens United decision brought in outright corporate bought elections.
The Koch's constant misdirection of the conservative base, talking fiscal prudence and tax cuts and welfare cuts, while always supporting candidates who will cut social services, deliver corporate tax cuts and keep the corporate welfare socialism for the rich gravy train going.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/observer.com/2010/09/7-ways-the-koch-bros-benefit-from-corporate-welfare/amp/
plasticmonkey
I’d never vote for Haley, but she seems the most responsible and qualified of the GOP candidates. At least she wouldn’t do a wholesale dismantling of democracy, like the fascist front runner has pledged to do.
yipyip
It's great to see strong support for a Republican candidate, no matter who that might be.
bass4funk
Nothing fascist about saying the truth.
Seems like the people are the fascists ones that have been feverishly trying to silence this guy and make him as toxic as possible and so everything has failed.
Huge difference, Koch doesn’t have his money invested in as many George Soros and his Open Society Foundations (OSF), operates in more than 120 countries. A Globalist of the highest order whereas Koch is primarily interested in domestic conservatism and its causes. Soros is for open borders, income redistribution, restorative justice, CRT, Universal healthcare and discrimination towards law enforcement and crime, supporting and funding over 78 DA’s across the country, two that are after Trump focusing solely on him instead of the real crimes that is destroying these once great cities, things that Koch absolutely is against. So these men couldn’t be more different from one another on ideology, socially and morally.
bass4funk
For the Washington elite establishment yes, but for the average American or more precisely put: conservative Americans, she does not.
Neither would Trump, but restore it from what we lost these last two years, but the real difference is Trump wants to dismantle the corrupt swamp system, and that is a good thing. Haley on the other hand wants to keep the swamp intact, this is why she will never make the Presidency.
plasticmonkey
Calling one's political opponents "vermin" and enemies of the people. Claiming only one man can fix all of America's problems. Blaming an entire segment of America's population as the root of all evil. Discrediting verifiable fact as "liberal bias" and reputable journalism as "fake". Promising to prosecute one's political adversaries and install in the federal bureaucracy only those who pledge loyalty to the leader. Propagating lies about the 2020 election to discredit trust in electoral processes and election workers. Should I go on? Fascism.
At least Nikki Haley isn't that.
plasticmonkey
What MAGA world means by "swamp" is the people and institutions that keep a check on absolute presidential power. MAGA world hates that because, quite frankly, they have a distaste for real democracy.
Cards fan
Yes, and install people based on their loyalty to Trump, a crook facing multiple felonies in multiple states. A guy who tried to stay in office despite losing the election. He wants to be a Dictator, and his supporters want to let him.
John
Advocating for the termination of the Constitution (Which Trump has absolutely done on social media) and promising “retribution” against those he has a grudge is not “telling the truth”.
It’s Fascism.
Jimizo
Trump and his team speak or write like they are addressing unintelligent children.
dagon
Right, because promotong an open society and liberal values abroad is such a bad thing, like the Peace Corps.
Instead of propagandizing the most important American electorate into endorsing things like trickle down economics and corporate welfare for the rich.
TokyoLiving
Still believing they can beat Trump??..
So funny...
Desert Tortoise
They are positioning themselves to take advantage of any convictions handed down to Mr. Trump.
Busby
Truth.
Haley is the candidate of Repubs who want to win. Trump is the candidate of the fascists who want to destroy American as we have known it for over two centuries.
Nominate Haley and the Repubs have a good chance of getting back the White House, though that's hardly my preference. Nominate Trump and they'll have to beg the Leavenworth Warden to give him a pass to campaign - and he'll just lose to Biden again.
Bob Fosse
You like Koch? Anti-45 Koch, supporting Haley to take down 45. What a turn up.
bass4funk
So you're basically saying the government which has never pretty much listened to its voters, thinks that it knows better than its constituents, wants to increase the government, never just anything for the people, we see it so often in blue states with the largest amount of resources how the establishment could care less, but I'm more into force-feeding, the masters, what they think people need, and this perpetual cycle of wanting to engage in overseas wars. more and more minorities are gravitating toward Trump and populism, and the Democrats have failed for over 70 years to help any of the biggest voting blocks. They only have themselves to blame for this changing paradigm, and the Democrats are in a very serious panic, and they should be, the minority vote doesn't belong to them solely.
No, we love Democracy, and that's the real reason why we despise the establishment to the core. Haley will never, ever overtake Trump. Just won't happen, she might make for a decent VP or she could get her old job back, she was at least good at that.
Bob Fosse
You know the states with the highest poverty rates are overwhelmingly not ‘blue’ right?
stormcrow
She has a better chance of beating Biden than Trump.
Reason?
She looks far more normal.
FizzBit
LOL Good luck
Too many conservatives and just all around average family Americans won't fall for the rich elites manipulating the election. Too bad the Dems are still stuck in that whirlpool swirling the tank into war and division.
Bob Fosse
Isn’t this a Bernie Sanders quote?
bass4funk
California followed the Sanders model as does NYC and look at the results.
https://www.aei.org/op-eds/liberals-reap-consequences-of-their-homeless-policies/
bass4funk
And you do know most of highest impoverished people that live in those states vote blue overwhelmingly.
plasticmonkey
No, that's not what I'm saying.
If you want to have a discussion about the size of the federal bureaucracy, fine. But that's not what this is about. I hate to break it to you, but Donald Trump does not give a fig about what you or "the people" want. He's in it for himself. That's all it's ever been. He wants total loyalists so that he can run the country like a dictator. All of those former members of the Trump administration who Trump once touted as "great" are now "vermin" because they didn't do what HE wanted for HIMSELF. It had nothing to do with policy or conservative principles.
You've been royally had, friend. If you're a true red conservative, you're better off going with Nikki Haley.
dagon
Wrong.
No state follows the Sanders model, event his home state of Vermont.
There is too much corporate influenced money and media manipulation, by the Kochs for example, working to convince people that universal medicare, a basic income or guaranteed job and living wage, taxes on companies and the uber rich in line with the Eisenhower era of real Great American prosperity are somehow "socialism" and benefiting only immigrants and welfare queens.
Instead they push for cutting "entitlements" that directly benefit poor white voters in these Red states and give more benefits to the fake "job creators'.
ClippetyClop
She isn't thick, mental, or crooked for modern Republicans.
She is also useless at portraying herself as a permavictim of everything and everyone.
That sort of thing doesn't fly with feeble-minded American right wingers now.
Bob Fosse
No. He’s broke and a narcissist. He can’t give it up for those reasons. He also hopes it will keep him out of jail.
What is this assumption based on? All 91 are ‘faux’ and all 91 would be dropped if he gave up his presidential run?
Yeah, that’s just wishful thinking.
bass4funk
No, the country has over the last 2 years been taken, for a ride, now they're all in a panic, so much so that even Michael Rapaport is begging for Trump to make a comeback, the Democrat's chickens are finally coming home to roost.
Yes, I am a true Conservative, but I would rather eat a bowl of mayo before voting for any establishment Republican, especially Haley.
ClippetyClop
Predictably, this is probably prime rib @bass BS. I don't even need to google it to know that.
Hardly surprising from a man who lives in an alternate universe.