Leaked Trump transcripts the latest risk to U.S. diplomacy

The leaked calls were "not catastrophic,"

They were likely due to intelligence agents who want to warn to the public examples of the president's complete incompetence but without revealing sensitive data. There seems to be tight coordination going on to rein Trump in.

Leaked Trump transcripts the latest risk to U.S. diplomacy

Huh? The leaks are the problem here? Granted the leaks probably shouldn't have happened, Donny's lies and inability to understand others is far, far more concerning.

Why should the president of Mexico lie for you, Donny?

I am, for the first time in my 6 decades, truly embarrased to be an American. And I am worried like never before what Trump® might do either out of ignorance or to advance his personal, warped interests that harms the nation, if not leads to the extinction of the human species.

They could undermine faith in Washington's ability

I'd say 'faith in Washington's ability' to do much that benefits those outside Trump's family and fellow plutocrats is gone internationally. In the US the 35%, Trump's truest believers, still have faith in him.

Faith: the purposeful suspension of critical thinking. Cue Jimmy Cliff: They tell you 'bout the pie up in they sky...

I am, for the first time in my 6 decades, truly embarrased to be an American

Really. So the whole MSM supporting the big lie of Bush's Iraq war didn't embarrass you. Isn't it obvious that some people are doing anything they can to sabotage Trump? They can't even have the guts to give him a chance. It has been attack after attack after attack on Trump since the day he was elected. That's not very American. Maybe it's revenge for all the BS they did to Obama, or maybe it's just the deep state being a sore loser. But I'm not embarrassed by Trump, I am embarrassed that the MSM still has any credibility left.

So the whole MSM supporting the big lie of Bush's Iraq war didn't embarrass you. 

I get that the msm is bad, but where should I get my news?

It has been attack after attack after attack on Trump since the day he was elected

Not exactly a hard target to attack. I mean, there is so much to go after.

Do you honestly believe he has some deep insight into foreign policy, do you honestly believe Donny is driven by anything more than his oversized ego? If so, why would he try to get Nieto stop publicly refusing to pay for the wall?

Watch out for the crackdown on journalists. Jail will be used as a threat if they don't serve up their sources for the slaughter. Dangerous times.

On the brink of a dictatorship. And still, the applause from Trumpologists will be deafening, right up until the fall into the abyss.

right up until the fall into the abyss.

Youre already in the abyss, you just haven't realized it yet. Anyone who could write "on the brink of dictatorship" is just trolling for attention.

I for one am happy to see glimpses of non-fake Trump in something that may resemble natural cordial(?) conversations, if speaking down is like that.

The best was to Australia's Turnbull, one of the great Trump yes-men out side of continental United States: about immigration policies, "You are worse than I am."; on the conversation in general, he said he had an easier conversation with Putin.

I bet Turnbull will rue the day he made that call.

Funny to watch the GOP panic to defend the lunacy and absolute hilarity of the calls by suggesting someone leaking them is the worst thing in the world instead.

I think the "milk guy" comment in his call to Turnbull was best. Or wait... was that in the call to the Mexican President begging him not to talk to the press?

Huh? The leaks are the problem here? Granted the leaks probably shouldn't have happened, Donny's lies and inability to understand others is far, far more concerning. 

Sorry, the leaks are more damaging, you have that twisted. Whatever Trump says good or bad, the leaks shouldn't happen period. Now if we ever have a liberal president and there is as much leaking going on and at the same level, the Dems would incinerate and crucify with vengeance the perpetrators if they were caught. No difference here. You cannot have a functioning WH if you have some of its staff members leaking information daily, it just won't happen.

Why should the president of Mexico lie for you, Donny?

Why should it be made public and EVERY president cares about their image, the only president that really didn't care what the media thought was GW.

Watch out for the crackdown on journalists. Jail will be used as a threat if they don't serve up their sources for the slaughter. Dangerous times.

You don't have to do that since a Journalist is not under any liberty to give up any valuable sources, just revoke their WH press credentials, that'll get them to squeal like a pig.

Isn't it obvious that some people are doing anything they can to sabotage Trump? They can't even have the guts to give him a chance. 

Trump is sabotaging himself. He's breaking his promise and scamming the American tax worker to build his wall. His promises are about as real as his natural hair (that never changes in length).

Local milk people. Amazing. Trump's brain is porridge.

Funny to watch the GOP panic to defend the lunacy and absolute hilarity of the calls by suggesting someone leaking them is the worst thing in the world instead. 

It is and everyone should be concerned, but I hope Kelly and company do a deep scrub, find the leakers and

prosecute them to the fullest extent of the law, like 25 to life.

I think the "milk guy" comment in his call to Turnbull was best. Or wait... was that in the call to the Mexican President begging him not to talk to the press?

Didn't Trump call Nieto little or something like that?

Why are you embarrassed?

I think the media we have are beyond embarrassing, but nothing to be surprised about.

You are a shining light of truth in this world of nefarious conspiracies and malevolent puppet masters. Keep up the good work. 

Do you think these transcripts are genuine?

I think they're genuine and so what? Two men talking serious, the difference is, Trump's conversations have been made public to embarrass him, but I would have loved to see previous presidents private conversations, I'm quite sure if we were to read some of them an eyebrow would perk up. So once again, the leakers, the MSM are on their daily Jihad, nothing new, nothing really interesting, just move on.

What a shame. Must be driving Trump nuts.

Perso I 'loved' the "they were from wherever they were" about Boston bombers. How ignorant the bloke is! Russia, the ME, Africa, whateva', they're all the same in DT's world.

What transpired from these leaks: Trump is completely clueless/out of his depth, worrying confirmation he's the same on/off-camera, politics' all about 'looking good' for these guys, ass-licking is de rigueur, it's a game i.e "you're worse than I am", Turnbull/oz been cherry picking refugees i.e 'Christians please!' and don't feel bad about it.

At times it felt like these were convos between 2 cunning politicians & a car salesman. Not sure we 'learnt' anything though, don't think anyone expected ideological/in depth convos from these guys. Tradies negotiations at best.

Two men talking serious

Yes, and Trump is seriously scamming the US taxpayer with his wall that Mexico will not pay for. And all this time Trump followers believed that Mexico would pay for the wall.

"And White House adviser Kellyanne Conway raised the possibility of lie detector tests for the small number of people in the West Wing and elsewhere with access to transcripts of Trump's phone calls."

Boy, are these people ever paranoid. It's so funny. Like a bunch of sharks eating one another in a small shark tank.

And White House adviser Kellyanne Conway raised the possibility of lie detector tests

Yes, but could these tests detect 'alternative facts'?

and prosecute them to the fullest extent of the law, like 25 to life.

They might have been leaked from the Mexico/Australia side. Oversimplifying....

That's what you get when you are forced to do everything in secret. WHAT HAVE YOU GOT TO HIDE??

prosecute them to the fullest extent of the law, like 25 to life.

WRONG!

In fact, very few disclosures constitute crimes.

(news source)

Now, about that wall (that Trump said Mexico would pay for)

I find it quite interesting that Trump and his supporters were all for the Wikileaks documents and other damaging information that got released during the campaign since they helped their side, but now, leaks are a bad thing, especially since they are exposing some of the worst behavior from this corrupt administration. Their hypocrisy is astounding.

We also have to wonder if Michael Flynn would still be around if it weren't for the leaks about his activities.

Watch for an F5 level of spin from the Trump supporters when they try explaining their double-standard regarding this matter.

There seems to be tight coordination going on to rein Trump in.

Would that be like a conspiracy to undermine the sitting President of th United States to advance a particular political agenda? I wonder who is colluding with whom to bring about this righteous coup d'etat.

Would that be like a conspiracy to undermine the sitting President of th United States to advance a particular political agenda?

I don't care. The leaks again show Donny for the liar he is.

Youre already in the abyss, you just haven't realized it yet. Anyone who could write "on the brink of dictatorship" is just trolling for attention.

Yes, clearly I'm sheeple and should just be scenery and not herd.

Shaken Sessions is warning journalists that they're going to have to reveal sources or face jail. If that isn't teetering on the brink...

@bass

You don't have to do that since a Journalist is not under any liberty to give up any valuable sources, just revoke their WH press credentials, that'll get them to squeal like a pig.

But...

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-sessions-leaks-idUSKBN1AK1UR

*Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein told reporters the department was just starting to review the policy on media subpoenas and could not say yet how it might be changed. But he did not rule out the possibility of threatening journalists with jail time.*

He must be doing something right to piss off so many people.

Trump was sure pissed to show that he is lying about his wall (that Mexico will NOT pay for). I can't believe the Republicans wanted Trump. There were some decent choices on the right but you wanted this clown? He is doing everything wrong because he has broken all his promises.

Here is actual video footage of Trump at a rally in Pennsylvania last October talking about how much he loved Wikileaks: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mUtT0b0EnSw

At the same rally, he said, “It’s amazing how nothing is secret today when you talk about the Internet.” Then he proceeded to read to the audience some of the contents of the emails which were stolen from the Clinton campaign and were forwarded to him by Wikileaks.

Contrast this with what he thinks about leaks today.

I find it quite interesting that Trump and his supporters were all for the Wikileaks documents and other damaging information that got released during the campaign since they helped their side, but now, leaks are a bad thing, especially since they are exposing some of the worst behavior from this corrupt administration. Their hypocrisy is astounding.

Yes, at that time Trump was not a sitting president and Hillary given her past as well as her husband the suspicion was always there going back to the days when Bill was governor.

We also have to wonder if Michael Flynn would still be around if it weren't for the leaks about his activities.

Watch for an F5 level of spin from the Trump supporters when they try explaining their double-standard regarding this matter.

I don't think Trump supporters hate an investigation, even though it was debunked so many times that there was no collusion on Trump's part, but once that trap failed and Mueller was unleashed the witch hunt began, the sheep of the establishment lovers knows No bounds. Like Trump or not, he's not the enemy, the enemies are the people y'all cheering for.

Libs! Time to wake up and take that red pill.

Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein told reporters the department was just starting to review the policy on media subpoenas and could not say yet how it might be changed. But he did not rule out the possibility of threatening journalists with jail time.

Yes, but doesn't mean even under the threat of being imprisoned a journalist has to divulge any pertinent information. It wouldn't be the first time Journalists were hit with threats like that. But in this particular case, I'd make that sentence longer......way longer to help start up their memories.

Yes, at that time Trump was not a sitting president and Hillary given her past as well as her husband the suspicion was always there going back to the days when Bill was governor.

How does this response even begin to address Trump's hypocrisy on this issue? It doesn't matter if he was the President or not. The fact is, candidate Trump loved leaks since they helped his cause. Now, President Trump doesn't like them because he sees them as being damaging. This is a perfect example of hypocrisy.

I don't think Trump supporters hate an investigation, even though it was debunked so many times that there was no collusion on Trump's part, but once that trap failed and Mueller was unleashed the witch hunt began, the sheep of the establishment lovers knows No bounds . . .

Really? What has been debunked? How can something be debunked when it isn't even finished?

Libs! Time to wake up and take that red pill.

Trump supporters: Time to get off the pills altogether, especially the opiates.

dmacleod: I find it quite interesting that Trump and his supporters were all for the Wikileaks documents and other damaging information that got released during the campaign since they helped their side, but now, leaks are a bad thing, especially since they are exposing some of the worst behavior from this corrupt administration. Their hypocrisy is astounding.

Don't forget they're now pushing a narrative that Mueller is goin' rogue by going outside of the original intent of the investigation. Right after going after Clinton's email server during the Benghazi investigation. And Bill Clinton's sex life in the Whitewater investigation.

And Trump fans didn't just support Julian Assange, they praised him. Just ask bass how he feels about him and he'll start gushing praise for Clinton's leaks, even after Assange caused so much damage to the US overall. Another Trump supporter here said that the content of the hack was more important than how it happened.

It's almost like pathological hypocrisy at this point.

I don't think Trump supporters hate an investigation,

Doesn't seem that way.

The data firm that helped pave the way for Trump's win and Brexit is at it again.

http://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-trending-40792078

Cambridge Analytica's mission statement is simple. On its website, the firm says it "uses data to change audience behaviour."

(their) strategy involves the mass harvesting and analysis of voter data. Data protection campaigners are therefore concerned about what might happen to this data after the election.

Looks like there's an investigation underway, as well. Though, not in the US. Yet.

The UK's privacy watchdog, the Information Commissioner's Office (ICO), is currently investigating the use of data analytics in the EU referendum campaign and has stated that it has concerns about Cambridge Analytica's use of personal data.

How does this response even begin to address Trump's hypocrisy on this issue? It doesn't matter if he was the President or not.

Oh, yes it does.

Really? What has been debunked? How can something be debunked when it isn't even finished?

Because this investigation went from trying to find Russian collusion to go far back into Trump's finances going back to the 80's?! Yeah, witch hunt all the way. The left need to do something constructive like winning elections, but they're too busy wasting their time on fruitless investigations, but I'm good with that, as long as it keeps them out of Washington and in the wilderness, carry on, please.

to go far back into Trump's finances going back to the 80's?! Yeah, witch hunt all the way. The left need to do something constructive like winning elections, but they're too busy wasting their time on fruitless investigations,

How about a witch hunt going all the way back to his birth and questioning his citizenship? Would that be constructive or fruitless, do you think?

And who is this "left" conducting the investigations? It's not ordinary people and actual activists, is it?

Oh, yes it does.

No, it does not, but I'm done asking you for proof and explanations because sadly, you have none to give.

Because this investigation went from trying to find Russian collusion to go far back into Trump's finances going back to the 80's?!

The investigation is evolving with new evidence coming to light almost daily. As I have stated previously, relationships take a long time to cultivate, and if Trump's Russia ties go all the way back to the 1980s, then so be it. The way prosecutors build a case is by compiling all of the available information related to a course of conduct and then making an assessment about whether they can prove from that evidence all of the essential elements that they need to establish if a crime was committed or not. The problem for Trump is that every additional piece of evidence that comes to light is like adding more kindling to a fire that is becoming a huge forest fire.  Investigators also need to establish that a corrupt motive was at play, therefore, all pieces of evidence need to be examined to determine whether there was any criminal conduct, which is not always time sensitive.

Because this investigation went from trying to find Russian collusion to go far back into Trump's finances going back to the 80's?! Yeah, witch hunt all the way. 

Clearly you have no idea what you're talking about. Mueller has the right to investigate any potential coordination between the Trump Campaign and the Russian government, as well as any issues that may arise as a result of the investigation.

If Donny wouldn't have fired Comey, Mueller wouldn't even be around, but for me I'm glad we may finally have a look at Donny's finances. ;)

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/05/17/us/politics/document-Robert-Mueller-Special-Counsel-Russia.html

No, it does not,

Yes, the fact that this is a witch hunt is clearly evident. I could care less what Mueller wants the public to consume, not me.

Clearly you have no idea what you're talking about. Mueller has the right to investigate any potential coordination between the Trump Campaign and the Russian government, as well as any issues that may arise as a result of the investigation.

I do know, Mueller can investigate as far as to how it relates to his original assignment and this change of events and the hiring of these Democratic donors don't impress me, but made it abundantly clear that this investigation is to do one thing, take down the president.

Anyway, Trump needs to get Kelly and Sessions and make sure they catch any leakers and jail them for about 25 to life at the very least.

 jail them for about 25 to life at the very least.

Won't happen.....

In fact, very few disclosures constitute crimes.

(news source)

Besides. These could have been leaked from Australia and Mexico. You need to go to those countries too! What a joke! Trump has his followers brainwashed.

Cringeworthy reading these transcripts. Clear from reading these that Trump wasn't prepared for these conversations and doesn't have the intelligence to have these conversations with leaders of other countries. He just isn't able.

The investigation has nothing to do with Trump's taxes or finances years ago. It is about Russian meddling in the 2016 election. I have heard they are even trying to check Trump Tower residents for the last 10 years.

As far as these leaks even if you think it's fine because you hate Trump, it hurts the country more than it does Trump. It also causes distrust with the leaders of other countries who now can't speak freely with our president.

Being a member of the media does not allow people to publish classified information to hurt our country because it's fun to mess with Trump. This needs to be fixed quickly.

It also causes distrust with the leaders

I causes Trump voters to understand that Trump cannot fulfill his promises such as building a wall (that Mexico won't pay for anyway) and the broken promise of the Muslim ban. He sounds so pathetic and desperate. And besides. Did these leaks come from the US side? They could have come from Mexico/Australia.

does not allow people to publish classified information

There is no classified information. Not getting Mexico to pay for the wall? So what? Everyone except Trump followers knew that from logic.

Check these quotes from America's manbaby:

"If you are going to say that Mexico is not going to pay for the wall, then I do not want to meet with you guys anymore because I cannot live with that."

Wah Wah Wah, I don't want to play with you if you don't do things my way...waaaahhhhh. I want my mommy!!!

"But the fact is we are both in a little bit of a political bind because I have to have Mexico pay for the wall – I have to."

Burn on you American taxpayers

because it's fun to mess with Trump

You are right. People didn't mess with Obama because he was respected. He was a real president. He was cool. Trump? It proves he is a poor president because no one respects him. Obama was a much better president and this incident (and many others) prove that.

It also causes distrust with the leaders of other countries who now can't speak freely with our president.

No, it just proves that these leaders are dealing with a manbaby idiot. They never had this issue with Obama.

I do know, Mueller can investigate as far as to how it relates to his original assignment

Which was?

and this change of events

Which change of events? Transcripts of Donny lying getting leaked?

and the hiring of these Democratic donors don't impress me

You being 'impressed' or not hardly has any relation to Trump and or his associates' criminality.

, but made it abundantly clear that this investigation is to do one thing, take down the president.

Except theirs actually something here, two grand juries now. Flynn pleading the 5th Mueller stocking up on white crimes/money laundering attorneys. Trump refused to release his tax returns and claims looking at his finances would be crossing a red line. Gee, I wonder why all this is happening? Hmmm.....

If all you have is Don Jrs meeting which wasn't even known when this nonsense investigation started, you have nothing.

Means everything the investigation was started for turned out to be not true if that meeting and Trumps unrelated finances are the only focus now.

Trunp told Mexico they are paying for the wall and if not then he has nothing else to talk about with them.

Public and private comments in both calls matched exactly. No different positions depending on who is being talked to like every other politician ever.

If you can't see the problem with full transcripts private phone calls between world leaders being published, you simply just hate Trump too much.

Forget about the covert weapons exchange with the wonderful Syrian civil war proxy troops, with Benghazi weapons

Add Donny selling weapons to Qatar and then accusing Qatar of sponsoring terrorism. Yeah, great job. Brilliant.

Add Donny selling weapons to Qatar and then accusing Qatar of sponsoring terrorism. Yeah, great job. Brilliant.

somebody who has no idea what's going on in the world. "Donny" didn't comment about Qatar. Saudi Arabia did that. And for the record, every single Pres has sold weapons to Saudi Arabia. Where have you been for the last 15 years?

Donny" didn't comment about Qatar.

Wrong again: independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/donald-trump-qatar-weapons-deal-12-billion-day-accuse-terrorism-saudi-arabiaqatar-signs-loa-for-the-a7790956.html%3famp

And for the record, every single Pres has sold weapons to Saudi Arabia

So, its just the status quo now, eh? Why were you so critical of Obama's weapon's sales?

So, its just the status quo now, eh? Why were you so critical of Obama's weapon's sales?

Why is the left so outraged about SA? Every president has been in bed with the Saudis for years.

You being 'impressed' or not hardly has any relation to Trump and or his associates' criminality

I call it a farce, the FBI, but like I said, this doesn't help the left or the intelligence agency.

As I said the special counsel was formed to look into the 2016 election and Russia's possible interference in that. How are Trumps finances or taxes related to that?

You all seem to forget that even the day of the election Trump was expected to lose. Yet his finances and business transactions years before are somehow now proof that Russia helped him get elected? A guy bought his house in 2009 knowing he would be president eight years later? Come on....

been a year now and still no one talking about anything related to IT security while everyone saying there was hacking. The actions don't match the words.

Are there any Trump fans who can defend the man without eventually resorting to conspiracy theories? It seems that at some point they all end up claiming that anyone going after Trump is corrupt or compromised. The FBI, CIA, NSA, the media, the special council, etc. All of them at one point or another have been described as crooked organizations who are going after Trump for political reasons.

Maybe, just maybe, Trump, the guy who defrauded Americans out of tens of millions of dollars with a fake university, a man who brags about using bankruptcy laws to screw over lenders, a man who endlessly promoted the birther theory to the world, a man who was found to have violated discrimination laws in housing, a man who has shafted his workers with payments, a man who has bragged about molesting women, a man whose team has been caught lying literally dozens of times with fake news about Muslims cheering, people calling him, people praising him, meeting/not meeting Russians, election results...maybe he's the corrupt one?

I mean, just sheer logical alone should make you skeptical, right? On one side we're talking about a dozen groups involving hundreds of people, all of whom are on board with a fake witch hunt narrative, or you have option B, which is that the proven fraudster is just doing what he's always done.

Such leaks have enraged Trump.

Wasn't this the guy who encouraged Russia to leak everything about Clinton? My, my, how the tables have turned. Shoe on the other foot syndrome.

Anyway enjoy your vacation, you know, the golf-vacation which you promised you wouldn't take. Christ, every weekend is like a resort vacation.

As I said the special counsel was formed to look into the 2016 election and Russia's possible interference in that. How are Trumps finances or taxes related to that?

They are related in several ways.

First, the groundwork for at least part of this line of inquiry was reportedly laid by former US Attorney Preet Bharara, who was investigating Russian-linked money laundering before being dismissed by Trump earlier this year. The core case involved Prevezon, a Russian firm represented by Natalia Veselnitskaya, the Russian attorney who met with Trump Jr. in June 2016. Since Trump got rid of Bharara, Mueller has now folded that investigation into his Russia probe.

Second, they could be connected with another possible (and note here that I said, "possible") money laundering case involving Trump's then campaign manager, Paul Manafort. The Wall Street Journal reported that Mueller’s team was looking at evidence that Paul Manafort might have been involved in money laundering schemes. Manafort is being investigated for his shady dealings through the Bank of Cyprus. It wouldn’t be the first time for Manafort; he also received 17 million dollars from a pro-Russian political party in Ukraine which he conveniently forgot to tell everyone about until asked about it, and he was forced to disclose himself as a "foreign agent" in accordance with the Foreign Agents Registration Act. Therefore, Mueller may need to inquire into the finances and potential misdeeds of individuals in Trump's orbit if their finances and misdeeds relate to the Russia investigation.

Third, regarding your point about the real estate transaction in 2008. It doesn't have anything to do with political favors or prognostication of Trump becoming the President. It is suspected that Dmitri Rybolovlev (Russia's "Fertilizer King") had purchased the Florida mansion from Trump as a way of hiding his assets during a divorce from his ex-wife. The deal earned Trump millions of dollars which came in handy since he was fighting very hard to avoid paying off a big loan that he had with Deutsche Bank (which was under investigation for its role in the mortgage-backed security scandal where it masked its losses).

These are just some of the reasons (and I could list more) why the Trump camp’s finances are an issue right now. Perhaps Mueller believes that understanding Trump’s and his family’s finances is necessary to figure out whether they have any untoward links with Moscow or not.  If the Russians dumped money into Trump’s businesses, it would certainly help explain how collusion might have taken place or how they were able to interfere in the 2016 election.

As I said the special counsel was formed to look into the 2016 election and Russia's possible interference in that. How are Trumps finances or taxes related to that?

Gee, Blacklabel, that's a good question! Fortunately, Mueller and his team are looking into it. Someday we will all know.

bass4funkToday  07:22 pm JST

So, its just the status quo now, eh? Why were you so critical of Obama's weapon's sales?

Why is the left so outraged about SA? Every president has been in bed with the Saudis for years.

It doesn't bother you that while the west is busy selling the Saudis high grade weaponry and getting oil and intel into the bargain, the Saudis are financing madrassas around the world that turn out Wahhabi extremists in droves? You rant on about radical Islam almost as much as you do about lefties and Democrats, yet you're not at all interested in where it's all coming from?

[Leaked Trump transcripts the latest risk to U.S. diplomacy]

What diplomacy? Any country dealing with the US is simply going to wait -- wait for the Trump administration to be gone. It is the only sensible thing to do.

find the opinions of the left

Not opinion. FACT that Mexico will charge the taxpayers for the wall and NOT Mexico. Here is the quote of the American manbaby:

"If you are going to say that Mexico is not going to pay for the wall, then I do not want to meet with you guys anymore because I cannot live with that."

Wah Wah Wah, I don't want to play with you if you don't do things my way...waaaahhhhh. I want my mommy!!! (DT)

I love the optimism of you guys. Bunch of speculative money laundering ideas now that even if true had no impact whatsoever on the actual election. Russia helped Trump win the election at his personal request by influencing the vote through hacking and disinformation. What happened to that?

It has just disappeared now to hoping Manafort or Flynn took Russian money. Or that Jr colluded (which isn't a crime)and he is a private citizen not part of the campaign. Even if they did, who cares, they aren't Trump, who is who you've been after for a year now.

You do realize that it has already been proven that Hillary, Bill, the Clinton Foundation, Podesta and Pedestal's brother took money from Russia right? Are you expecting Mueller to just ignore that and only go after Trump's people? Good luck there.

No treason, no obstruction of justice (except Dems Lynch and Wasserman) and no collusion (except DNC with Ukraine). You guy's story is just collapsing right in front of you.

Bharara was not "gotten rid of" or "dismissed" by Trump, he was asked to resign along with all the others as is customary. It's ok though his top deputy was hired by Mueller anyway so I'm sure that part will continue, but that was about Flynn not Trump.

How would Trump know or care if some Russian guy bought his house to hide divorce money from his wife. and even if he knew is that a crime? Same for Manafort, none of that if proven would have anything to do with Trump, the election or Russia supposedly helping Trump to win.

You do realize that it has already been proven that Hillary, Bill, the Clinton Foundation, Podesta and Pedestal's brother took money from Russia right?

Really? Which court of law was Hillary convicted in? The last criminally corrupt WH was GWB with Libby being convicted for outing a spy. Hillary never did that. FBI doesn't care what Hillary did. Only the haters who just love to hate Hillary.

Meanwhile we have the American manbaby crying for his mommy. He's going to burn the taxpayers to build his 50 foot x 2000 mile wall that the drug dealers will just use ladders on. Mexico won't pay and Trump knows he lied to his followers and he is whining about them knowing that.

Trump's broken promises: No wall (that Mexico will pay for), no Hillary arrest, no real Muslim ban or national registry (Trump said he wanted to implant IC chips to track them). But don't worry about Mexico paying for the wall. The US economy is better so they can use the extra money to pay for the $100B wall. What do you think?

Bharara was not "gotten rid of" or "dismissed" by Trump . . .

Actually, yes he was. Initially, he was told he could stay by Trump, but when Bharara started his investigations into Russian money laundering, he was asked to leave. Bharara refused, so then Trump fired him.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-03-11/trump-fires-wall-street-enforcer-bharara-who-refused-to-resign

. . .  but that was about Flynn not Trump.

As I stated earlier, if Mueller believes that there is a financial connection between the two, then he has every right as a special counsel to investigate it.

. . . even if he knew is that a crime? 

No, of course not; however, Rybolovlev is well-connected with Vladimir Putin, and if (and again, I'm saying "if") Mueller feels that the deal somehow illuminates any of Trump's ties to Russia, then it is within his power to see if this relationship has any bearing on his financial dealings with Russia. It may not, but we won't know that until the investigation runs its course.

Same for Manafort, none of that if proven would have anything to do with Trump, the election or Russia supposedly helping Trump to win.

No, and I have already explained why Manafort's situations could be connected to Trump's finances, the election, and the possible reasons for why Russia interfered with the election.

Bunch of speculative money laundering ideas now that even if true had no impact whatsoever on the actual election.

You don't know that. No one will know that until the investigation concludes.

You do realize that money laundering is a crime, right? You just said that "even if true . . ." Well, if it is true and it is tied to Trump, you understand that articles of impeachment could be drawn up based on the "high crimes and misdemeanors" statutes since money laundering would definitely qualify as a "high crime."

Russia helped Trump win the election at his personal request by influencing the vote through hacking and disinformation. What happened to that?

Nothing at all. It's still being investigated. Ask that question if it isn't answered after the investigation has finished.

You do realize that it has already been proven that Hillary, Bill, the Clinton Foundation, Podesta and Pedestal's brother took money from Russia right? Are you expecting Mueller to just ignore that and only go after Trump's people? 

Hillary, Bill, the Clinton Foundation, Podesta, et al, are not part of the investigation. Read the original order for the investigation which was issued by Assistant AG Rosenthal to see why. Trump is being investigated here. Yes, I am expecting them to ignore "that" (whatever it is) and concentrate on the directive issued by the DOJ. If you'd like an investigation into something else, contact Assistant AG Rosenthal and let him know. Oh, BTW, "good luck there."

No treason, no obstruction of justice (except Dems Lynch and Wasserman) and no collusion (except DNC with Ukraine)

Pure partisan speculation on your part. The investigations haven't even concluded yet you've already reached your verdict despite the fact that this is far from being over.

You guy's story is just collapsing right in front of you.

There is no "story" except for the one you are trying to make up. We'll see just what is "collapsing" after this investigation is over.

Blacklabel: What happened to that?

I haven't been keeping abreast of what Mueller has been working on. Can you give us a list of items?

What do you think?

What do I think? I think that at no time or in any fashion did you address the original poster's question.

when Mr Trump cannot understand what 'We The People', how fit he is to be President in the minds of people who surround his WH; then see We The People mean , even unregistered immigrants are also part of that 'We', Unregistered immigrants from Mexico and central America were there in the Americas for a few centuries, as native Americans, sudden after 1965 immigration great laws, segregating them, from whites shows 'Whites' are Native Americans is absolutely false for all whites were since day one simply immigrants , when so how white alone can say he falls in so called 'We'. that way USA obviously mislead the people of America, obviously that might have frustrated some in the WH, those such would have leaked, may be some whites too possible, as most in WH do not agree with Mr Trump is obvious.

If u cannot understand 'We' represents all the world people together, how alone American claim he is that We!

so no crime or any evidence of wrongdoing on trumps part just the typical government employee with zero ethics and committing a felony. either incarcerate the leaker or let Chelsea the wannabe girl Manning out of prison. He leaked diplomatic communication and went to prison so should these asinine government employees who believe they, are justified in committing crimes because their Marxist leader Hillary didn't get in.

"Would that be like a conspiracy to undermine the sitting President of th United States to advance a particular political agenda?"

Response: "I don't care."

And that pretty well sums up the left. Short term political goals trump all.  A police state, war with Russia, even a nuclear exchange... as long as it gets Trump out of office.

And that pretty well sums up the left.....A police state, war with Russia, even a nuclear exchange... as long as it gets Trump out of office.

Oh Baloney, the police state existed before Donny and still exists. There is no war with Russia and you'd be hard pressed to find anyone calling for war with Russia. And no one wants to see a nuclear. Donny knows nothing about foreign policy, or even economics for that matter. Donny's presidency does little to affect the things you've mentioned.

You know those photos they do, of scientists or philosophers, caught in deep thought and gazing into the middle distance?

This isn't one.

Oh Baloney, the police state existed before Donny and still exists. There is no war with Russia and you'd be hard pressed to find anyone calling for war with Russia.

So the US and Russia are good allies?

And no one wants to see a nuclear.

Russia, China and North Korea wouldn't want that either, wonder why?

Donny knows nothing about foreign policy, or even economics for that matter.

Most presidents don't, that's why they they have their Department secretaries to do that.

or let Chelsea the wannabe girl Manning out of prison. He leaked diplomatic communication and went to prison so should these asinine government employees who believe they, are justified in committing crimes because their Marxist leader Hillary didn't get in.

First of all, Chelsea Manning is a she, not a he. And she exposed the dark heart of US military policy. She is a hero and deserves a medal, if anything.

Secondly; HRC is not a Marxist. She is a centerist liberal and just a few degrees of awfulness less than Trump. More like Dos Passos than Das Kapital, if you will...

Diplomacy under the current regime is a sisyphean task, that will not resolve until Trump learns how to do politics. Whatever the hell he's doing now; it sure ain't suited to the real world.