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Jimizo
How revolting
jcapan
Maybe these cretins have finally been given enough rope. In Lewandowski's defense, there are no doubt plenty of Trump supporters who want a final solution for the disabled.
Yubaru
They are rude and crude, but nothing will change, until the electorate does something.
WRONG! There is NO defense for his words, none! To even consider it is wrong!
MrBum
To be fair, I think he would've had the same response if the child wasn't disabled. It doesn't seem like he was mocking the disabled specifically. He was simply being flippant and callous about a terrible situation, which is plenty bad, don't get me wrong.
goldorak
Come on, do you seriously think so? Although I agree that there are probably not many humanists among Trump supporters, I honestly don't think the vast majority have any eugenic tendencies. A tad harsh imo.
TorafusuTorasan
The first story I saw on this reported his comment as "Womp Womp." Not sure which is more infuriating.
When will the staunch Trump defenders (Black, Bass, et al) jump on here with some lame spin-terpretation? What is the acceptable sarcastic aside when discussing crying imprisoned Down Syndrome children, eh proud neocons?
Bintaro
I talk about this subject on another article, but Trump supporters don't seem to have a problem with it.
Cricky
The cup holding empathy seems to be dry in the Trump camp/ Palace. Even the golf cups are dry.
Alfie Noakes
I thought this was going to be about the misfiring Poland striker Robert Lewandowski. Instead it's just another grotesque Trump staffer exposing his true nature.
Not for a moment is it harsh. Look around the internet and look on here: I've seen posters beside themselves with glee at terrorist bombings in Europe, gloating at the dead children as the blood was still flowing. The mods instantly removed the comments, but they were there. You're being naive. They don't care about anyone who isn't like themselves.
oldman_13
Remember my fellow Americans, vote in November.
Never forget!
Aly Rustom
Lewandowski on girl with Down syndrome: 'Wah wah'
I'm not surprised
Blacklabel
Yep honorably served in the US military. WIth immigrants who served honorably as well and filed paperwork to become citizens. Also served with dishonest immigrants who didnt want to pay US taxes on their pay as citizens. So they served their time and then took their 20 year pensions back to their home country, then had their children enlist to start the process all over again.
There is a process for legal immigration use it. What kind of parent takes their disabled kid and sneaks them into another country, then expects that country to pay all the medical costs?
TorafusuTorasan
@PT, good catch--serving his country could mean bolstering foreign army psy-ops for all we know. Well, he might be in line for a medal for his frantic copy and pasting about the benign etymology of "Womp Womp" he is busy with today. I'll be he knows, or can be taught, a lot more sarcastic noises for commenting on the disabled.
dmc27
The Branch Donaldians cheer this on. Let us not forget, Trump himself mocked a disabled reporter. Very sad that most Republicans (not all) are full of so much hate that they follow this cult leader.
Strangerland
I don’t think there is an official spelling for the womp-womp sound effect.
Basically it looks like this Lewandicantspellhname was as cold as we would expect from someone who supports separating Down’s syndrome kids from their parents.
Blacklabel
and who was the overly dramatic actor in the video?
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Is he still trying to get "rapid responses"? Only the AP is reporting wah wah, everyone else is reporting womp womp, which is a huge difference.
TorafusuTorasan
@Blacklabel, the father of the child in this story is a legal US resident and lives an hour down the road from where the kid is being imprisoned. Probably dozens of cases like that showing this tough guy prison camp charade is totally unnecessary nonsense. It's just Trump/Sessions copying tactics from their idol Joe Arpaio (descendant of illegals, just like the ones saving your bacon in the army).
PTownsend
If your intent in defending this and caging children is to score own goals for the Trump team, you're succeeding.
Blacklabel
But there is a spelling. An a phrase. And its the sound when you lose on the gameshow "The Price is Right". Google Price is Right Womp and you get the "losing horn" sound video on Youtube.
Its generally a sound of "epic failure*, which described the point of the other person perfectly, it was nothing to do about the
"One of the many Running Gags on Archer involves a spoken version: the phrase "womp womp" is used in place of a trombone by several characters when someone else loses out on something."
here is way more than you would ever want to know:
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/LosingHorns
jcapan
CrazyJoe
The cesspool of people in the Trump circle is a distillation of evil.
Bullies, all of them.
Does Corey have a mother? Is she proud tonight?
I’d take a hundred illiterate, penniless refugees in, and deport Corey in a heartbeat.
A lowlife, just like the orange swamp creature he worked for. Mocking people with disabilities or life-threatening illnesses appears to be inherent in those working for this disgrace of an administration.
Blacklabel
So what does that make a parent who drags a disabled child from from El Salvador or Guatemala, through safe Mexico, all the way to the US border just to get the child separated from them and detained. While being told and knowing is what would happen, What kind of a parent and what kind of a person would so such a thing?
rainyday
We have video of Trump himself mocking a disabled reporter by mimicking his disability, so mocking the disabled has already been approved as acceptable by the Republican party.
Disgusting really.
TorafusuTorasan
So Blacklabel says we need to Google "The Price is Right" sound effects to understand the subtext here?
Then we could research Pat Sajak and Alex Trebek every time there is blatantly boorish sarcasm. Priceless.
goldorak
Possibly. Perhaps I got sidetracked by jcapan's reference to nazi's 'final solution'.
With all due respect to Trump supporters, many/most of them do not represent nor belong to what I would call a racial/social/intellectual/genetic elite. Would go even further, a fair few would probably have been targeted pretty early by nazi's eugenics program (due to cognitive and/or physical congenital disabilities). They're what Hilary called (wrongly imo) 'deplorables'.
This is why I think most Trump supporters wouldn't target weak/disabled ppl (unless they aren't 'true' Americans) as they themselves are 'weak' I.e. 'they are like themselves' (unlike Lewandowski who's part of a political/social elite).
Thunderbird2
What a disgusting creature...
stormcrow
And he said it on Fox News. Anybody who saw the clip of it on TV probably also noticed that the Fox News Hostess did nothing to rebuke Lewandowski for saying it. She should have, but she didn't. Not surprising.
Alistair Carnell
For those who haven’t seen this disgusting display of immaturity....
https://youtu.be/Vrt7q6QKF5o
Thunderbird2
I just saw the clip... even though he said 'wah wah' (as in the trumpet with hand over the end going "wah wah waaah..."), I would equate that with a very sarcastic "my heart bleeds".
Why is this odious guttersnipe even allowed air time? He's utterly vile.
If America isn't going to accept the illegals then deport them... but never separate kids from their parents... that's just evil. Why would anyone even think was a good policy?
This from the BBC:
u_s__reamer
These callous cretins will be not be wah wah-ing when the November Midterms come around, but blubbering into their beer. The decent folk of America can instead then enjoy a nice slice of cold schadenfreude with their beer.
Serrano
Lewandowski should have refrained from the wah, wah, but he was not making fun of the child's disability, he was trying to express his frustration with all these parents trying to bring their kids and themselves into the U.S. illegally. If we can ever get the wall built, we can prevent a lot of these cases of family separation at the border.
bass4funk
Don’t bet on that, that gap has been closing, it’s not a sure win by any stretch of the means. Why do you think the Dems are in panic mode? The Russian hoax is slowly coming to an end, Stormy is nowhere to be found, virtually everything the left tried to get Trump on, every single lie they weaved, came crashing down, he didn’t take us to Nuclear war, we survived the laughable browbeating of our European allies, survived the NK summit, I could go on, but the Democrats have a real problem, their lead shrank, they have about a 7 point lead and for a Democrat in this environment with polls this close is very nerve racking for the Dems, that means they are within the error of margin. Not good. Also, what will they run on? What’s their message? Impeach Trump? Ok, so let’s say the Democrats retake the house, and then they impeach the president, then what? The Senate is still Republican. Roadblock!
Which Americans? The Red ones or the Blue ones?
katsu78
This is how the 3rd Reich began, de-humanizing everyone who isn't part of the core fascist in-group.
Keep watch over the people who can't bring themselves to condemn this repulsive behavior. If they can't see the humanity in a kid with Down's Syndrome, they won't be able to see the humanity in you when the state comes to drag you away.
SuperLib
Trump mocked a disabled reporter and the crowd cheered. I can’t imagine this story will have any impact on such people.
Strangerland
Having seen it, I'm inclined to agree. I didn't get the impression his 'comment' was in regards to the kid having a disability. That said:
That seems like a nice way to say it. It pretty douchey though. These are real people he's talking about, and his 'comment' makes extreme light of the plight of these people.
Strangerland
You have more confidence than I. The far-right is mobilized, and they vote like mad. The right already has a history of doing better in the midterms, and Trump is super popular among his base right now. I'm thinking it's more likely that the Republicans will come out ahead in the upcoming election. Their people are more fired up than ever.
Strangerland
I have to disagree. A reporter's position is to report, which means getting the news. They are not there to be the moral judge. A good reporter would question him on doing it, and get more insight into it, but I'm not thinking of any situations right now where I feel a reporter should be rebuking anyone.
Strangerland
While I find the whole situation with what's happening at the border pretty reprehensible, I think the title of this thread is inflammatory. The 'comment', and the Down's Syndrome were to unrelated things that the thread title has related to each other. Others have said the same in the thread. This is the type of thing that gets extremists screaming 'fake news', which brings down trust in the media. For that reason, it's important that news writers ensure that the title of the news article accurately matches the content of the article. Otherwise people scream 'click bait' and again, trust in the media gets brought down.
nishikat
The kids are going to end up becoming American.
bass4funk
You are conflating the issue and you are making an apples to oranges comparison, it has nothing to do with the kids. I think would feel bad if the kids were held in appalling unlivable conditions, but that’s not what is happening here.
nishikat
Yep and they are on their path to citizenship. Thanks Trump. Someone has to raise these kids.
bass4funk
Ok, so now you think, these kids are off to the final solution? What on Earth is wrong with the left? I just wish y’all would feel the same about Americans that are separated from their kids, we have thousands of them, White, Black, Latino etc.
It’s all the same, you break the law, you can’t take your kids if you get locked up.
So it’s not abusive to allow a child to wander through a hot desert unaccompanied?
Are you serious????
nishikat
Yes, are the kids criminals? A three-year-old? No? But the parents are and they are going to prison for a long long time under the Trump's rule. But these little kids are not. And with their parents in prison (for years and years) it means the US will have more little citizens to feed and give medical care to. Also, free schooling. All on the tax payer's dime. Yes, seriously!
Ike-in-Tokyo-from-89
A “final solution” will not be necessary if preventive steps are taken re Downs Syndrome in the manner Iceland is handling it. People with Downs are just that: people. In uturo there are no they, just it unless I am mistaken.
nishikat
The final American solution will be these kids become American citizens. Trump followers think the parents of these kids are very very bad rapist criminal child pedophile abusers and don't deserve to keep their children. OK, then. So these kids will just go through the US government system and be fast tracked to their citizenship- thanks Trump. More non-white kids become Americans. Then what happens to the parents?
katsu78
The ones now, no, they're probably just traumatized for life. But then the Nazis didn't start immediately throwing Jews into the gas chambers either.
No Americans get separated from their children for committing a bureaucratic misdemeanor.
The Holocaust was legal under German law too.
Jimizo
This type of comment is very unhelpful. The left screaming ‘fascist’ or talking about the Third Reich runs the language down and makes the words lose their impact, Oh, look, the shrill lefties are talking about final solutions and exterminating the disabled again. One day a real exterminationist scumbag might come on the scene and shrug off these attacks as more squealing from the usual suspects. It does the sensible people on the left a real disservice.
It reminds me of politicians talking about every election as the most important ever.
katsu78
I'm sorry my criticism of people who defend literally ripping innocent minority babies from mothers' breasts has hurt your feelings.
Jimizo
@katsu78
No, it’s your silly Third Reich squeals. The thumbs down crap is really childish. It’s basically a squeal.
Stop making the left look like children who can’t handle an adult discussion. It’s part of the problem.
katsu78
Watch the people who are more concerned with our tone than with the injustices being done to innocents by the state in our name. If they're unwilling to condemn evil when the state commits it against someone else, they'll be unwilling to condemn evil when the state commits it against you.
bass4funk
You don’t know that, even saying something like that is absolutely ludicrous.
The funny thing about liberals is, they actually believe a lot of this nonsense, which is actually funny.
If that were the law, then they would if that were the case.
Yes, that was Germany back then, but this is America and all the legal 3rd world new citizens are mostly from countries where people are dark skinned, so we’re going to round them up as well or do they get a pass because they’re legal? I get it now, 3rd world legal brown immigrants won’t be subjected to the camps, but illegal brown ones will be? ROFL!
katsu78
Child psychologists consistently agree that forcibly separating children from their parents at a young age is deeply traumatic, and can affect them for the rest of their lives.
Trump is building concentration camps for children as young as 3 months old.
nishikat
And all these kids are going to become 100% American and enjoy the benefits of being 100% American. Then what happens to their parents that Trump and his followers hate so much?
Strangerland
This is a weird one, because I fully agree with you that going overboard on the left doesn't help anything. But on the other side I actually think very often that what we are seeing is probably a very similar progression to how things moved forward in Germany pre-WWII. We aren't there yet, and I really really hope we never end up there, But I'd be lying if I said I didn't see any similarities from what I know to what I am seeing.
bass4funk
What’s your. Definition of evil? For me, evil is watching grieving Americans who’s loved ones were killed because of our lax immigration laws and open borders, that our politicians don’t care, rather they care more abou either cheap labor or that they hope that giving free entitlements will encourage them to vote. I think it’s evil when our politicians spin lies on a sensitive issue they know they have no merit in commenting at and would rather lie in order to get their base going by using a tragedy to get a political advantage.
I find that evil.
Ike-in-Tokyo-from-89
Which bureaucratic misdemeanor? Do you mean attempting to enter the US illegally? Or ...?
katsu78
Evil is harming someone who didn't do harm to you, including harming a child because you don't like their ethnic group.
And so you choose to respond by harming children who have done nothing wrong to anyone, just because you choose not to see the difference between a single adult immigrant who did harm and a child who just happens to have the same legal status.
That is one of the ways I define evil. If you cannot target retribution against the actual person who did the wrong, then you aren't even up to the level of moral development Hammurabi proposed almost 4000 years ago, not to mention all the developments in moral philosophy that have come since then.
bass4funk
The same can be said when the child is called to do something in front of the class, or the child gets embarrassed or sexually assaulted which happens a lot to these kids making the journey on the way to the States, physical assault, verbal assault, all can be deeply traumatic and many have gone through this. Again, what’s your point?
Trump is not building anything and once the faculty is up and running, that’s better than being in the hot desert, I care, so I don’t want them to be out there where they can get hurt, at least in a detention center they’ll be fine and can play and use WiFi.
Jimizo
Make sure you use the word ‘evil’ next time Trump pulls that stunt. Your non-partisanship should make that go without saying.
Looking forward to it.
katsu78
No, it can't.
It's not government policy to sexually assault kids (as far as we know, at least.). It is government policy to traumatize children by forcibly taking them from their parents for no good reason. It is strange that you try to defend an evil the Trump Regime is doing by comparing it to another evil no one is doing or calling for.
That Trump's policy of forcibly abducting minority children from parents who have merely committed a misdemeanor (if that - some parents whose children have been stolen have been legal assylum-seekers) is evil.
What's your point?
I'll just quote that demonstration of doublethink for the record and call this conversation to a close. Nothing of value can be found debating with people who are unwilling to confront evil.
bass4funk
Yes, it can and it does, kids that were caught up in wars, forced into slave labor or suicide bombers, I could go on and on, there are many, many traumatic situations that children have to go through, not only this particular incident.
So why don’t you feel the same about the thousands of American kids that have to endure the same thing?
I think it’s strange as well as sad that liberals are trying to defend the criminal acts of parents pushing them to enter a sovereign nation unattended and a minor illegally.
I understand, but the law is the law, if I try to enter China right now with my kids, they’re not going to put us in a detention center together. I get your point, it’s sad, but they’re being cared for and at least they don’t have to worry about being in the unforgiving heat, many can talk to their parents and overall, they are in a much better position like this.
That depends on what your definition of evil is.
nishikat
And stay in the USA and become American. Trump is going to make these kids American. More green card amnesty.
Serrano
Super: "Trump mocked a disabled reporter and the crowd cheered."
Did Trump really mock reporter's disability?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CsaB3ynIZH4
nishikat
Yes, and it will get even better with their green card amnesty.
nishikat
And it's perfectly clear that these kids will become Americans. The parents love their children so much they push them over the border. The kids are taken from their parents to become American citizens. All on Trump. And more parents will hear what Trump is doing so they will keep coming and keep coming and keep coming. This never happened under Obama. The last time this kind of amnesty happened was with Reagan. 3M green card amnesty.
SuperLib
There are some people who support government actions intent on harming kids, and those who don't.
That's all it really comes down to.
bass4funk
well, that’s not the case, no abuse recorded yet.
yamada1043
Another Trump accolade ... disgraceful.
hachikoreloaded
Donny Dogdoo's minions can't just stick to the content of this article and say that this "wah wah" was just wrong. Deflect deflect deflect. "Hillary called Trump supporters deplorable". This is a perfect example of the truth we are gifted by rezident hump's followers.
Wolfpack
Separating Down’s syndrome children from their criminal parents- bad. Aborting them because they have Down’s syndrome - who cares right?
I’m tired of the media’s collectivist one dimensional outrage. It is so transparently fake. Children of criminals are “torn from their mothers arms” every day in every country on Earth. If a parent cannot be placed in custody because there are children the criminal justice system would completely break down. This only seems to be a problem because Trump can be associated with it. It is sad for the innocent children but it is the wrongdoing parents fault - not society’s. Get over it people.
Black Sabbath
Ladies and Gentlemen, I am pleased to introduce you to the Republicans Party. They stand for:
Torture of enemy combatants.
Separating kids from their parents at the border.
Drug tests for the poor who apply for food assistance.
Viciously racist rhetoric from their president.
Mass incarceration.
Cutting back on medical care for the poor.
Ending asylum for those fleeing violence in their home countries.
Police brutality in poor neighborhoods.
By “support” I mean that they either actively support these things or else they’re happy to let them continue without any criticism. This is the fundamental human cruelty and venom at the heart of the contemporary GOP.
This isn’t new. I've been saying this for nearly two decades. If you were a country club Republican, it was possible to squint and pretend otherwise. No more. The Republican party is the party of Donald Trump. Lock, stock and two crude and un-American smoking barrels.
So, conservative, now it’s time for you to chose: Whose side are you on?
Strangerland
"But, but whaddabout...."
Strangerland
Kind of. But you've got the cause and action backwards here. Trump convinced millions of Americans that they needed to be afraid because he claimed the borders were open to allow everyone and everything in. He chose this issue to push, and drove people into a frenzy in his campaigns. It was very much like you see preachers doing in churches - and a cross referencing of the bible belt and Trump supporters finds a strong correlation. His followers fell for the words from his silver tongue, then they retroactively rewrote the way they portray the story, to make it sound like they always thought this was as big an issue as they portray it to be now.
Strangerland
That's silly. You can do it all you want. And I can point out how ridiculous it is all I want.
The ironic thing here is that you took my criticism to be me saying you're not allowed to speak, not realizing that would mean that your criticism of my comment would be you saying I'm not allowed to speak. You are guilty of the exact behavior which you are complaining about.
Anyways, every time you guys try to excuse behavior based on some perceived hypocrisy, you are trying to use the 'two wrongs make a right' logical fallacy, which most of us had debunked by our mothers when we were five or six years old.
garypen
Watching the video, it's pretty clear he's saying "wah wah", an exagerated sobbing noise, mocking the other person's sad story.
I'm not sure why everybody was reporting it as "womp womp", which is more like the sad trombone sound.
Of course, either one proves what an uncaring, heartless, and mean piece of crap he is. But, Trump's entire administration and campaign is filled with these people. So, no real surprise.
garypen
And, three million more Americans voted for his opponent.
theFu
I have a solution for the wall!
Have the asylum seekers build it as a condition for being considered.
Wolfpack
No that is exactly what I wasn’t saying. You were trying to avoid discussion of the other side of the issue by using the Left’s now popular “whataboutism” debate ender. That’s not an effective debate tactic it’s just lazy.
Of course Lewandowski was attacked by the Left and establishment Republicans for his opposition to open borders. The Left want more Socialist voters and businesses want the cheap under paid labor. The law as written and as is the norm for most all other countries in the world do not allow the free flow of citizens across borders. When that happens the citizens of each country lose control of their governments, economies, and cultures. America is well along this path. Socialists apparently are against the idea of a nation state at all. To me, this is a recipe for political and social chaos - which is very evident in the US already. The chaos won’t get better when Trump is no longer in office. There will just be another Left or Right wing version of him that will come along next.