Macron says 'door always open' for UK to stay in EU

Now watch as the ultimate will of the majority is destroyed​before your very eyes. Democracy? Ba! Hamburger!!

There is a school of thought within the European parliament and Commission that mistakenly believes that the European Union is Europe. And the decision/mandate taken in a referendum by the people of the UK to sever, at least politically an affiliation to that union is a summary aspersive snub on the very concept of European integration ideals in fact the values that define  a peaceful, united and prosperous Europe.

What this process, let's call it a pause presents, is a unique opportunity to reflect on the what those founding principles represent politically, economically and forge a more modern democratically representative relationship for all 28 member states.

@fred Democracy? 

For Russians accustomed to having a tsar-like ruler controlling their country and calling their system democracy, it must be difficult to see what their European neighbors are doing and understanding that that IS democracy.

Democracies are usually messy and frustrating, but most people (extreme rightists excluded) from democracies prefer the messes and frustrations to authoritarian systems that are democracies in name only.

Putin for 25 years? Russian 'democracy'? Textbook non-sequitur.

After triggering Art. 50, I don't see any realistic way of stopping Brexit short of a treaty change (which probably couldn't be completed before 2019).

Besides, I sense there are interests in Europe that have come to terms with Brexit and now see it as a once in a lifetime opportunity to kneecap certain sectors of the UK economy. Also, statistics show us that many of the Brexiteers will die off within the next 10-15 years and the young, who overwhelmingly supported Remain, will be in the majority. This offers the realistic possibility of welcoming the UK back into the EU at a later date, but without rebates or opt-outs from Schengen or the Euro. This latter point is going to be an important strategic consideration for the EU to weigh if it starts entertaining the idea of stopping Brexit.

@PTownsend

Putin for 25 years?

Your obsession with Putin is bewildering, you write about him whatever the subject of the thread is. Can you keep to the subject (EU)?

By the way, Merkel is the leader of CDU since 2000, chancellor of Germany since 2005 and she wants to run for another term. Why you do not joke about Germans who like "tsar-like ruler controlling their country"?

By the way, Merkel is the leader of CDU since 2000, chancellor of Germany since 2005 and she wants to run for another term. Why you do not joke about Germans who like "tsar-like ruler controlling their country"?

Thanks Asakaze. Apparently as long as you're 'voted' in, you can go as long as your legs can carry you. A truly disgusting farce!!

To revoke/rescind article 50 would require political consensus from the UK parliament, EU Council of Ministers/ EU Parliament.  

Both the Conservative and Labour  leadership appear reluctant to make any attempt to review proposals in reference to membership of the single market.

In the case of John McDonnell, on ideological grounds. Restrictions imposed indirectly through commitments to the EU financial stability pact, would severely hamper McDonnell from increasing UK deficit beyond 3% GDP.

Theresa May wants to focus on a free trade agreement.  

However there is a urgency over and above the principal of coming to terms with Brexit.  

Financial frameworks 2007 –2013 and 2014-2020, Multiannual Financial Framework cannot be negotiated away, and here is where a compromise is required and will probably be forthcoming.  Correlating the financial report 2015 with the recoveries and financial corrections within the left hand adjacent annex = without UK contributions and future commitment, all 28 member states will be in the economic equivalent of the deep and smelly. Which explains fully the necessity to phase the negotiations to start with the present and future UK contributions.  

The UK election result could well be the fait accompli, the question is how the EU and UK, in fact all the member states are going to politically dress this up. Somewhere down the line French President Emmanuel Macron 'open door' will provide the solution.  

http://ec.europa.eu/budget/financialreport/2015/annex/1/index_en.html      

Full transcript: John McDonnell says Labour supports leaving single market

https://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2017/06/full-transcript-john-mcdonnell-says-labour-supports-leaving-single-market/#

@askaze Your obsession with Putin is bewildering

I guess I've struck a sore spot, comrade. I do fear Putin and his oligarchs making inroads and trying to affect the politics and economies of other nations. I've read too much Russian history to ever trust Russia's leaders. Comparing Merkel, a leader elected through true democratic processes, to Putin, who's jailing opposition as I write, shows a complete lack of understanding of democracies and an obsession, most likely paid for, with protecting the image of the Russian neo-tsar.

Putin and the world's oligarchs, especially those in resource extraction industries, scare me.

@PTownsend

I guess I've struck a sore spot

Nah, your obsession is not my sore spot. I just recommend you to keep to the subject of the thread.

shows a complete lack of understanding of democracies and an obsession, most likely paid for, with protecting the image of the Russian neo-tsar.

Even Western media admit that more then 80 percent of the Russian citizens support Putin. Abject denial of the fact is actually "a complete lack of understanding of democracies and an obsession, most likely paid for".

The Eurocrats do not take "no" for an answer. The ask again and again and again, until they get the "correct" result. George Orwell would be pleased.