Macron says a proposed European force for Ukraine could 'respond' if attacked by Russia

Moscow will view such a hostile deployment, lacking a UN mandate, akin to nazi aggression on the traditional invasion routes on the Steppes into European Russia.

Staying away from frontlines won't save them from Iskander ballistic missile attack and more.

Witkoff got it spot on yet again: EU plan is a combination of posture and a pose and a combination of also being simplistic.

The tripwire force should be on the frontline. Make Pootie-poot take on someone his own size.

JJEToday  06:54 am JST

Moscow will view such a hostile deployment,

RAF are pretty pathetic so I could see how they could claim a few hundred troops is a threat.

lacking a UN mandate,

Never bothered russia before.

akin to nazi aggression on the traditional invasion routes on the Steppes into European Russia.

That nazi aggression is on Ukraine these days.

Staying away from frontlines won't save them from Iskander ballistic missile attack and more.

They don't need to be "safe". The better able to report on russian violations the better.

Witkoff got it spot on yet again: EU plan is a combination of posture and a pose and a combination of also being simplistic.

He receives his information first from the Kremlin, so of course you say he is always correct.

The big elephant in the room will be the country that’s missing: the United States.

This deployment will never happen. Not a tripwire force but a self-zippering one.

Bluster and puffing smoke while trying to pretend they are relevant must help with the cope: they know the sidelining is real. Moscow in the driver's seat with Washington calling the shots for NATO.

Putin cannot be trusted to maintain peace.

JJEToday  07:13 am JST

The big elephant in the room will be the country that’s missing: the United States.

This deployment will never happen. Not a tripwire force but a self-zippering one.

Bluster and puffing smoke while trying to pretend they are relevant must help with the cope: they know the sidelining is real. Moscow in the driver's seat with Washington calling the shots for NATO.

The EU has F-35s and nukes. Would like to see the RAF fold faster than Superman on laundry day.

The EU has F-35s and nukes. Would like to see the RAF fold faster than Superman on laundry day.

Laughable. The UK military is a bit of an underfunded joke.

They all can't do anything without Uncle Sam tying their shoelace for them - and Moscow knows it.

The EU has F-35s

You are welcome

and nukes. Would like to see the RAF fold faster than Superman on laundry day.

Hmmm

bass4funkToday  08:27 am JST

The EU has F-35s 

You are welcome

They paid for them, you know. The US is welcome.

The EU has F-35s

They already regret buying it, just look at what Canada did to their pre-order.

They both, Russia and France, are culturally connected and militarily opposed, bound together historically by deep love and deep hate for a very long time. In their hearts they want to grab their missing links each other from the other side. In fact, they also both want their former big famous empires back, which at smallest should have at least a dream dimension from Paris to St. Petersburg and vice versa respectively. But here we are talking Russia-Ukraine conflict, and that is a pure Russia-U.S. issue, therefore EU, France or anyone else don't play much a role. They can all watch it and chat about it, not more.

They paid for them, you know. The US is welcome.

They had no choice, can't defend any nation with a paper plane, they won't buy the Russian ones, so yes, they are all welcome.

He ( Witkoff ) receives his information first from the Kremlin.

Credible proof for such serious allegation need to be presented to give it even a whiff of credibility.

bass4funkToday 10:52 am JST

They paid for them, you know. The US is welcome.

They had no choice, can't defend any nation with a paper plane, they won't buy the Russian ones, so yes, they are all welcome.

When the US trashes all sense of still being a superpower sure Europe will have the choice to build their own stealth fighter.

Sven AsaiToday 09:39 am JST

They both, Russia and France, are culturally connected and militarily opposed, bound together historically by deep love and deep hate for a very long time. In their hearts they want to grab their missing links each other from the other side. In fact, they also both want their former big famous empires back, which at smallest should have at least a dream dimension from Paris to St. Petersburg and vice versa respectively. But here we are talking Russia-Ukraine conflict, and that is a pure Russia-U.S. issue, therefore EU, France or anyone else don't play much a role. They can all watch it and chat about it, not more.

I'm not an expert on France, but I bet they don't seriously believe they will conquer the continent. russia, on the other hand, is all about reassembling their former monstrosity. It's their only reason to exist.

Putin cannot be trusted to maintain peace.

At this stage nobody can be trusted, certainly not the Americans or indeed Macron

There is a clear undeniable geo-political diplomatic conundrum.

Europe is continuing to finance President Putin war,

An energy policy highlighting the necessity to purchase huge qualities of Russian fossil fuels.

Then the constant political posturing, the never ending meetings, the so called “the coalition of the willing”

These action never actually amount to anything other than another meeting.

I question Macron agenda is domestically self serving, words are not followed by "action", only another meeting?

It is focused on the US negotiated ceasefire.

Russia will only negotiate with the US, Europe has little/zero political influence.

That is the harsh reality.

Europe is continuing to finance President Putin war...

A bit of confusion here. 

The only entity/state financing this terrible conflict is the US big industrial military complex, now pretending to allow Trump to play the “pacifists role”, knowing full well that this is just a break of the war, and preparing for the next big shipping of weapons. 

Let’s put into context few things here. The US administration has sent over 115 billions of dollars of lethal arms to Ukraine since the start of the conflict. The White House has swiftly taken over Russian gas charging four times as much, benefiting Texas oil companies. 

Since the outbreak of war in Ukraine and disruptions in pipeline flows from Russia, the United States has increased LNG sales to Europe by 140 percent. Not to mention that American LNG is highly polluting for the global environment, something that legacy media does not reveal. 

Needless to remind that the top 5 weapons manufacturers in the world are all American, and that Wall Street rose to all time high. And now Washington is preparing to loot Ukraine by getting hold of their main resources, from minerals to rare earths. Go figure!

After sending twice as much in weapons value, the majority of which Americans, Europeans do not even take part to peace talks and get nothing in return. 

A lot of confusion here :)

Regardless of the US position, it is the EU's butt on the line. The war started by Russia is in Europe and if Ukrain falls, it is very possible that Putin may expand his goals.

The EU most certainly is right to step up to ensuring security in Europe. Trump has single handedly destroyed US credibility that was established in 1947. And mentally challenged Americans are cheering him on.

And in 4 years when the US (without Trump) comes back in full force it will be supporting a much more powerful EU. Basically Putin's worst nightmare and maybe what's needed to keep him at bay for the foreseeable future.

Not only confusion, but a lot of imagination. 

One might wonder why Putin would want to expand to Western Europe when Russia is already the largest country in the world, self-sufficient, with only 140 million inhabitants. For Russia to escalate a war with Nato is beyond any possible logic. What is clear from the beginning is that Moscow could not have the US nuclear missiles bases in Ukraine, same as Washington would not allow Russians to hold military equipment in Canada. It is a very elementary principle of satellite countries and big empires. 

The best scenario for the next 4 years would be Europe to build their own defense strategy, without the investments of the US industrial military complex who have already profited for billions of dollars on the financial markets, while Ukrainians continued to suffer the consequences of this massacre.

Warmongers Macron and Starmer are a disgrace to their nations and the biggest threat to starting another world war.

Shame on them and those who conspire with them.

Europe won't let Ukraine be thrown to the dogs by Trump and Putin.

Wallace

They are throwing themselves and their citizens to hell by just being leaders. Look after your own, spend money on the nations vulnerable and stop warmongering.

Fight war not wars!

falseflagsteve

They are throwing themselves and their citizens to hell by just being leaders. Look after your own, spend money on the nations vulnerable and stop warmongering.

> Fight war not wars!

Ukraine is the victim, not the aggressor defending itself against a greater more powerful, and darker Putin force. Ukraine would love not to be invaded in the first place and the abduction of tens of thousands of Ukraine children.

Ukraine would love to end the war today but Putin has already killed more than 50,000 Ukrainians. They won't surrender if it means giving everything to Putin.

Zelenskyy remains popular in his country.

Putin and Russia are the only ones wanting war.

Wallace

I didn’t mention Zelensky, I’m referring to Starmer and his new boyfriend Macron, guess Lord Ali dumped him as he’s outlived his use to him.

falseflagsteve

I didn’t mention Zelensky, I’m referring to Starmer and his new boyfriend Macron, guess Lord Ali dumped him as he’s outlived his use to him.

Why do you need to post insults?

Trump has made it clear that American troops won't be protecting Ukraine after a peace treaty. That means Europe needs to come up with a plan to protect Ukraine from further Putin aggression. It's not clear if Putin will stop.

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Starmer and Macron just done press conferences, beating the drums for war. France and Britain sending ‘teams’ whatever that means to Ukraine. Note, just Britain and France with their warmonger leader who not content with ripping the guts out of their own nations now want chaos in the EU.

The fear mongering has begun!

itsonlyrocknrollMar. 27 06:32 pm JST

Russia will only negotiate with the US, Europe has little/zero political influence.

The US has influence only as long as it is on the side of Ukraine. That could end any day with this surrender administration.

falseflagsteveMar. 27 11:13 pm JST

Wallace

They are throwing themselves and their citizens to hell by just being leaders. Look after your own, spend money on the nations vulnerable and stop warmongering.

Fight war not wars!

That's easy for you to say, not having treaty allies that are at risk of having new borders with russia at a bare minimum. Then we have the fact that savagery has to be stopped somewhere.

No European country will sign up for that duty. Send in the TINC brigade.

The tripwire force should be on the frontline

FosMar. 27 09:51 pm JST

The only entity/state financing this terrible conflict is the US big industrial military complex, now pretending to allow Trump to play the “pacifists role”, knowing full well that this is just a break of the war, and preparing for the next big shipping of weapons. 

No, the disgusting wartime economy of russia and its owner China are also financing this terrible conflict.

Let’s put into context few things here. The US administration has sent over 115 billions of dollars of lethal arms to Ukraine since the start of the conflict.

And that is a great and justified thing.

Needless to remind that the top 5 weapons manufacturers in the world are all American,

And the next 5 are Chinese.

And now Washington is preparing to loot Ukraine by getting hold of their main resources, from minerals to rare earths.

So Trump bad. Got it.

A lot of confusion here :)

From the poster.

One might wonder why Putin would want to expand to Western Europe when Russia is already the largest country in the world, self-sufficient, with only 140 million inhabitants.

russia has always been jealous of civilization and tried to expand westwards. Is the gaslight supposed to convince us that the invasion of Ukraine didn't happen?

What is clear from the beginning is that Moscow could not have the US nuclear missiles bases in Ukraine,

There have never been nukes in Ukraine in recent memory and in fact the Budapest memorandum prohibited such.

same as Washington would not allow Russians to hold military equipment in Canada.

The US is force to allow russian and Chinese nonsense in Cuba. Same thing.

It is a very elementary principle of satellite countries and big empires. 

Not a principle based in international law.

The best scenario for the next 4 years would be Europe to build their own defense strategy, without the investments of the US industrial military complex who have already profited for billions of dollars on the financial markets, while Ukrainians continued to suffer the consequences of this massacre.

So your best scenario is for Ukraine to suffer from an unprovoked invasion. People with ethics will decide what Ukraine's fate will be.

deanzaZZRToday 01:30 am JST

No European country will sign up for that duty. Send in the TINC brigade.

The tripwire force should be on the frontline

People not slavishly supporting an Asian monstrosity see the world differently.

deanzaZZRToday 01:30 am JST

No European country will sign up for that duty. Send in the TINC brigade.

The tripwire force should be on the frontline

Also the UK and France already signed up.

Labour yesterday announced more welfare cuts that will plunge 250,000 including 50,000 below the poverty line. The figures are the governments own. While Starmer struts around thinking he’s the next Churchill the most vulnerable are struggling to exist.

How anyone can defend the man or his party is beyond me.

Labour yesterday announced more welfare cuts that will plunge 250,000 including 50,000 below the poverty line

Ask the mighty Starmer, disseminating disinformation to influence public opinion.

The US administration has an interest that societies are increasingly weak, lost, and therefore easy prey for economic, political, and ideological interests.