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30 years of surgery and singing shite sems to make this woman think she is a qualified political commentator. I despise stars that use their fame for a free soapbox.

What is the name of that country singer that looks like a reject from a gay pride festival? He made some equally dumbass "Obama is a Muslim" nonesense too...

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She isn't too sharp or informed, huh? Guess she didn't get the notice that Obama ain't no Muslim. Silly unimportant women.

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It means that Republicans have done a good job.

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Certainly a good job if spreading malicious, borderline racist rumours about Obama was the task...

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Who takes anything Madonna says seriously ?

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No one takes Madonna serious or any of the Hollywood elite, except for the people that easily get star struck. Average Americans understand that these people don't have a single clue as to how politics works. You wouldn't want to see US politicians performing with Ozzy, Usher or The Who, then why would you want Hollywood to stick their noses in politics and what is up with these celebrity meltdown, first Armstrong and now Madge? I'm still waiting for Kanye to say something stupid......again!

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Certainly a good job if spreading malicious, borderline racist rumours about Obama was the task...

That's the whole point.

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Thanks fir clearing it up your first comment seemed ambiguous :)

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Remember a few years back when she was a guest on SMAP Bistro and was cold as ice and looked like she hated them all--especially when Shingo came out and did his usual thing of poking fun in costume?

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"Silly unimportant women."

""Top Scientists from around the World have yet to develope a mirror that Madonna can look into without having it crack".

"30 years of surgery and singing shite. . . "

Wow. Talk about sour grapes. The woman says something -- something admittedly foolish, yes, -- but the best people here can come up with are personal insults?

Say what you want about Madonna on a personal level, but to claim she's unimportant just sounds like willful ignorance. With a net worth in the realm of $650 million, Madonna is still considered to be one of the most influential women in pop music, has sold over 200 million albums worldwide, and is the most successful solo artist in the history of the Billboard Hot 100.

That hardly suggests unimportance.

"Average Americans understand that these people don't have a single clue as to how politics works."

Oh, please. "Average Americans" have about as deep an understand of how politics work as the Hollywood elite you like to froth at the mouth over. That's what makes them average.

Except for the fine folks here at JT, ov course. We're all master political strategists of the highest order, demonstrating our mad political skillz here at JT between gigs as analysts for CNN/FOX/MSNBC.

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LFR,

Only the oher week she was.upsetting people in France using Nazi symbols on foreheads.

Her latest gimmick to show she is still hip is calling her tour "MDNA" to resemble MDMA the chemical name for what we used to call Ecstacy.

It's not a personal attack - it's my opinion - her music is shite. And none of this should qualify her for a rant on politics.

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LFR is right.

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When Obama took his official Oath of Office a bible was not used.

He's the first and only president to have taken the Oath of Office without placing his hand on the bible.

Curious that a bible wasn't used in his case.

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Madonna who?

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Bah, I hate it when JT change the article after 14 comments without the "irony"....

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Certainly a good job if spreading malicious, borderline racist rumours about Obama was the task...

@ Madverts: I don't think it was part of a GOP plot. After all, the GOP and Madonna have nothing in common, and she would never believe anything that they put out. This is more of her just beig a "twit" and thinking that she has some relevance still.

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Mr Obama dont likes Mr Netanyahu, didnt he? And that says all about him!

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Alpha,

Well, there's certainly been an effort to portray Obama as a Muslim and a non-American from a whole load of conservatives. Pretty low if you ask me.

But I agree on the relevance issue. I guess it's like when Village People lookalike Hank junior claims that Obama is a Muslim, he hates America and we hate him. But then when you have a captive redneck audience that all believe that crap I imagine relevance isn't much of an issue as it is for Madonna.

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She has lived in the UK for long enough, she should know what ironic means by now.

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NeverSubmit,

When Obama took his official Oath of Office a bible was not used. He's the first and only president to have taken the Oath of Office without placing his hand on the bible. Curious that a bible wasn't used in his case.

Was there something in particular you wanted to achieve with that lie? Or were you just misinformed?

http://www.sfbayview.com/wp-content/uploads/barack-obama-oath-of-office-012009-by-reuters.jpg

His hand on the Bible from Abraham Lincoln’s inauguration, held by his wife, Michelle, Barack Obama takes the oath of office as the 44th president of the United States as he is sworn in by U.S. Supreme Court Chief Justice John Roberts. – Photo: Reuters

Looks like the steady black hand of the president on a rather famous bible, does it not?

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I really love JT. U name it. JT deliver it for you right in your door-step from world affairs, politics etc etc and of course entertainment celebrities. Looks like My favorite singer Madonna created a little commotion here when she says.......

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His hand on the Bible from Abraham Lincoln’s inauguration, held by his wife, Michelle, Barack Obama takes the oath of office as the 44th president of the United States as he is sworn in by U.S. Supreme Court Chief Justice John Roberts. – Photo: Reuters

Looks like the steady black hand of the president on a rather famous bible, does it not?

Nice try Squidbert, do your homework. The Oath your referring to contained an error, courtesy of Justice Roberts and was then subsequently declared invalid. The second and legally-binding Oath was taken the following morning. It was specifically noted that a Bible was not used during the second Oath, which actually is the legally binding one. The first Oath he took was declared null and void and has no legal or moral bearing.

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It was specifically noted that a Bible was not used during the second Oath, which actually is the legally binding one.

So perhaps all that proves, is that the bible holding thing is "just for show" and not really important? (By touching the bible on the first day, I think Obama successfully proved that he is not a vampire, that should be enough)

Also according to

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oath_of_office_of_the_President_of_the_United_States

Theodore Roosevelt did not use a Bible when taking the oath in 1901.

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"It's not a personal attack - it's my opinion - her music is shite. And none of this should qualify her for a rant on politics."

And the unique quality that allows you to make that determination is what, exactly?

Furthermore, considering how invested you become in many of the American political discussions here, what is it exactly that makes you so much more supremely qualified to speak unfettered on matters of a political nature than, say, Madonna the Swastika-pasting, MDNA-joking, Muslim-mislabeling celebrity?

I'm not trying to make you out as some sort of jerk. I'm trying to say that just as you cannot and should not be disqualified from commenting on politics for being, well, average, neither should Madonna or any other celebrity be denied the same right just because he or she is famous. The double-standards being thrown around here are more than a little apparent, aren't they?

Also, I'd be remiss to not point out that opining about the quality or lack thereof of Madonna's music in a discussion about a political opinion you disagree with is the very definition of making a personal attack. Playing the "It's just my opinion" card doesn't magically negate that fact. It's mockery used for the sole purpose of drawing readers to a conclusion that, "Ah, her music is shite, therefore her opinion is irrelevant." Which is as transparent as it is silly.

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NeverSubmit,

"When Obama took his official Oath of Office a bible was not used. He's the first and only president to have taken the Oath of Office without placing his hand on the bible. Curious that a bible wasn't used in his case."

Nothing curious about it, since you're just plain wrong.

Not only did Obama, a more-times-than-can-be-counted self-avowed Christian take his oath of office using a Bible, but he also used the very same BIble Abraham Lincoln used in his swearing in. In fact, former vice-president Dick Cheney presided over the ceremony.

Thank you, though, for proving once more just how ignorant, and woefully, embarrassingly, pitifully gullible opponents of Obama can often be in their persuit to vilify the man for no other reason than he isn't GOP enough.

Some advice to help you avoid your confusion in the future: Don't believe every blog you read or every YouTube paste-up you find.

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Well, there's certainly been an effort to portray Obama as a Muslim and a non-American from a whole load of conservatives. Pretty low if you ask me.

@ Madverts: I actually saw the YouTube clip of her comments. When she made her comments, the crowd roared with approval. She then went on to say that Obama was for gay rights, and again the crowd roared with approval. I don't think that this was a product of any GOP brainwashing, but by uniformed persons who think that what she says matters.

Another ironic thing about her comments is that in the Muslim world, gay people are being persecuted and killed because of their sexual orientation. Yet nothing is said about it by Madonna. Except that we should just reelect a person in her opinion is a muslim who support gays. Like her said, she is only mouthing what she thinks is "correct" and relevant and doesn't know what's going on.

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"The Oath your referring to contained an error, courtesy of Justice Roberts and was then subsequently declared invalid. The second and legally-binding Oath was taken the following morning. It was specifically noted that a Bible was not used during the second Oath, which actually is the legally binding one. The first Oath he took was declared null and void and has no legal or moral bearing."

My goodness, you just can't stand the guy, can you?

So, Mod, when exactly does this silliness get nixed for being wholly unrelated?

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Like I needed another reason to vote against "The One".

RR

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Madonna says she was being "ironic" in calling Obama a Muslim

Can't unring that bell, hon.

RR

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Well, may I say I usually enjoy your own offerings somewhat so I'll try to be as sensible as required.

"Furthermore, considering how invested you become in many of the American political discussions here, what is it exactly that makes you so much more supremely qualified to speak unfettered on matters of a political nature than, say, Madonna the Swastika-pasting, MDNA-joking, Muslim-mislabeling celebrity?"

I'm no more qualified than any other member that comes here at the request of dearest Japan Today to post my opinion - usually on world news - something that interests me. That's why we come here.

Had I gone to see Madonna, firstly I would have paid handsomely for the outing and secondly I would be in all fairness expecting to hear the shite she is reknowned for singing, not a rant about politics.

I got dragged to a U2 concert when I was about thirteen (thank God JT is anonymous) I remember that sell-out bono giving a torturous, self indulgent political homily that rambled on for what seemed like half an hour. True I was far more interested in the joint my older cousin was smoking and if I could sneak a sly toke without uncle noticing to properly immerse myself, but even then I thought to myself who does this guy think he is?

I'm not trying to make out that stars have less or no right to their opinion, I'm merely suggesting they should use a different forum to do so - let's face it they can afford it, and if people like use were to stand up in he street screaming about gays or ripping off T-shirts with messages written on our bodies, wouldn't it be a fair chance of being spirited away to "a safe place to stay the night"?

Frankly, if there's a double-standard, it is hhe stars themselves hijacking their own musical show for political diatribes.

"It's mockery used for the sole purpose of drawing readers to a conclusion that, "Ah, her music is shite, therefore her opinion is irrelevant." Which is as transparent as it is silly."

No, I'm saying her music is shite, and with the means at her disposal, she could provide a far better engine for reasonable political discourse than ranting and raving to a crowd that for some reason went to see her to hear her sing.

I repeat what I said recently - the only musicians I've ever seen mix quality, poetry and biting political satire are Pink Floyd. And that I what tore the two apart.

Just so you know, I took the time to write this episode on my damned tactile BlackBerry that I hate out of momentary insomnia, so believe me, I don't think you're a jerk either...

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As of now. From here on, posts that do not focus on Madonna's comments will be removed.

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Sorry LFR, that last post and all the typo's were for you.

Addendum, you seem to laugh off the jokes about the MDMA, which is a clear reference to a designer drug, yet isn't it fair to say this woman holds sway wih a younger audience and could he seen to be condoning the popular resurgence of hhe use of MDMA somewhat in her desperation not to be he overhill burnt out I think she is whilst simaltaneously talking politics?

I'd be remiss at this point not to state you haven't further galvanized my opinion this woman should stick to what she does best - trying to look twenty and singin' shite...

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Well, is Madonna being "ironic " endorsing Obama as well ! ?

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NeverSubmit,

More conspiracy?

Can't you up your game on the others you bring before opening another dossier?

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With a net worth in the realm of $650 million, Madonna is still considered to be one of the most influential women in pop music, has sold over 200 million albums worldwide, and is the most successful solo artist in the history of the Billboard Hot 100.

I wonder how much she pays in taxes and what her percentage is.

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"I wonder how much she pays in taxes and what her percentage is."

When you're not prepared to be honest and transparent about your tax affairs as per tradition, it's best not to run for office. I don't think Madonna is good for anything more than a quick rant at a concert, and even then, the root cause of her support appears to Obama's 21st century attitude to gays as opposed to Romney's from the 19th....

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I think Madonna needs to practice irony... or at least understand what it means.

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Perhaps Madonna and Romney should sign up for irony lessons together? Seems most people didn't get his 'joke' about airplane windows not opening.

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Actually I'll give Romney the benefit of the doubt, I'm sure he's had a lear jet or two at his disposal as the jet age businessman he is, I'd put it down to clumsy joke telling once again. Madonna's gaffe, however, does seem to bet what the article originally said it was...

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It would be a lie if I said I wasn't a fan of your contributions here as well.

Suggesting that stars use different forums to express personal opinions is a completely valid expectation, but I guess just don't see it as that black and white. If, say, Miley Cyrus were to suddenly start pontificating on the virtues of free market capitalism in the middle of one of her shows, yeah, I might raise an eyebrow. But Madonna, regardless of what her cause of the moment may be, has never shied away from expressing her personal views, political or otherwise, both in an outside of her shows. This is essentially the image she has cultivated for herself over the past two decades, not unlike Bono.

To this end, it's simply unrealistic to attend one of her shows (or U2's for that matter) and be surprised that she might make a political statement. It's what she does. It's what Bono does. And we all know it. It's what a broad host of celebrities do every day of the week when placed in front of a willing audience. And make no mistake, Madonna's audiences are very willing. As are U2's. People still fork over a boatload of cash to see both of these acts live, years after they've firmly cemented their reputations for going off on tangents about the political or social landscape.

So it stands to reason that on some level, these paying audiences some 20~30 years into Madonna's or U2's careers not only assume there will some sort of personal statement from the artists, but also come to expect it.

I apologize for putting you in the position of having to type on a tactile input anything. Knowing full well what a horror that is, I wasn't my intention to torture you thus. Bygones, as they say. Get some sleep.

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Good to see this though since the Madonna-concert-goer demographic was previously such a huge question mark in this election as to who they were going to vote for.

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To this end, it's simply unrealistic to attend one of her shows (or U2's for that matter) and be surprised that she might make a political statement. It's what she does. It's what Bono does.

Agreed. And sometimes the statements made by Madonna or Bono shock in ways that are quite unexpected.

Speaking about World AIDS Day on Thursday, Bono said, “There will be announced for Worlds AIDS Day, the potential for the end of the scourge of AIDS…which even as it comes out of my mouth is kind of amazing.”

Continued the activist, “We’re hoping very much that President Obama is going to follow through on what President Bush did.”

A surprised Stewart interrupted Bono and said, “Woo, let me just swirl that around in my mouth.” “I know that’s hard for you to accept,” said Bono patting Stewart’s hand.

Added the singer, “It is amazing. People like John Kerry worked for this. Hillary Clinton, and eventually President Clinton did some extraordinary stuff renegotiating the prices of these very expensive drugs down. But George Bush kind of knocked it out of the park.”

http://www.politico.com/blogs/click/1211/Bono_gives_props_to_George_W_Bush.html

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She really is an idiot. Even by showbiz standards

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Sailwind,

Not everything Bush did was perceived as immoral, wrong, stupid or even just plain murderous and/or catastrophic. I realize he did do some honourable things, including notably his post-presidential solidarity with Obama despite blatant political realities (and the first time in all honesty I've seen true statesman-ship qualities from the man). Sadly, the afore-mentioned perception of his policies tended to over-shadow completely his honourable gestures. It is also the pre-Iraq invasion sell-out from Bono that I was referring to earlier when speaking of that unspeakable Irish group I was forced to endure in my adolescent years, if you hadn't already guessed.

LFR,

Thanks, and thumbs-up. I'm now up and about on a proper keyboard so in theory the spelling should improve. You make some good points and I'll cede a few for the sake of honest debate - notably having learned that when attending a Madonna concert I would be expected to subjected to her political views as well as her, uhm, let's just say music from now on for decorums sake. I doubt I'll be joining you at one any time soon however.

Maybe you're case is stronger after all, having learnt as I have that Madonna's concerts tend to be like that - but I'd still like to keep my suggestion on record that rather than rant at drunken/doped young people partying that these mega-rich stars use their money accordingly with their influence if they want to pipe up on politics and encourage sensible discourse, especially for someone like Madonna who if we're fair, had to back down recently over her swastika stupidity when there were a million credible ways to criticise Marine le Pen for the monster she is. Lead by example and all.

Have a good one :)

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"Good to see this though since the Madonna-concert-goer demographic was previously such a huge question mark in this election as to who they were going to vote for."

In my rush to reply I missed this. An excellent point Sailwind.

It begs the question as to why Madonna - or even the aforementioned country star that hates Obama on the other end of the spectrum - need even bother to waste their breath. 99% of the audience surely have a predisposed position close if not identical to the stars themselves, which clearly means for me that these diatribes are not only pointless, but nothing more than indulgences to their already over-grown egos.

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She was confused. Iconic, ironic, tomato, tomahto....

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She was dumb enough to marry Sean Penn, it's not surprising she's dumb enough to call Obama a black Muslim.

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She was dumb enough to marry Sean Penn, it's not surprising she's dumb enough to call Obama a black Muslim.

She didn't do it because she's dumb. She did it for attention.

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"She did it for attention"

Stop it. What about "In Bed With Madonna"? Us kids were expecting porn back in the day, sneaking it out on VHS from whichever parent had wasted money to buy it. What a load of poop!

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“OBAMA” inked across her lower back.

Well as far as tattoos go and the location she chose, I'd say was she was torn between between "Obama" or "Next" .

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? Where is the controversy? I don't get it. I am no fan of Maneater, sorry Madonna, but she was delivering political backing to go and vote for him? And said that it was amazing that the US has a "black", "muslim" president which showed that there was hope. Surely that is full support for Obama. As for the muslim comment, that was an innocent mistake, and there is a connection as Obama's stepfather was muslim and Obama spent part of his childhood in a predominately muslim country. There was no slur from Madonna and in fact, it is Obama who is overly sensitive about the muslim thing. So what if the US did have a muslim president? Are we saying that the USA shows hope and freedom in having an African-American president who grew up in Indonesia and who has an African-American wife, but no we cannot have a US president who is a muslim? Where is the hope and freedom in that?

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We know you were "trying to be ironic" Madge. You see you thought you were being witty and existential and we all realized you were just another clueless moron with a microphone. Ever thought about a career in politics?

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Momar Khadafi said Barack Obama was a Muslim.

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Akemi Mokoto:

" She isn't too sharp or informed, huh "

I suspect Madonna is pretty representative of many Obama voters.

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Obama is atheist and i support that.

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Madonna has been trying to be politcally offensive in every country lately... Russia, France, now the US... where to next?

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Madonna was crazy about Gen Wesley Clark for his military leadership in 2004, calling him “a perfect example of the American dream” and going all out with personal meetings, donations, letters, web site appeals etc. A tepid “endorsement” (if that) of Obama indeed when the talking points are reduced to “good man” and “don’t discriminate.”

This is more of a endorsement of gay marriage aimed at her most loyal fan base. I doubt even she expects him to win. IMO.

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She is also a personal friend of Netanyahu and wife and stays with them whenever she is in Israel. The president may not be exactly a Muslim but there is no doubt he had a reasonably Islamic upbringing and is broadly speaking “sympathetic” to the radical Arab world. His stepfather of course was a radical Wahabbi Muslim. His maternal grandmother, grandfather, mother and eventually birth father were all confirmed (communist) atheists. Whether an unbeliever himself, for whatever reason the president is (thankfully) hemorrhaging support among white atheist Americans (anyone not a die hard liberal, terrorist or party animal) and is facing an uphill battle for re-election Madonna will I think clearly stand with her adopted spiritual homeland no matter what.

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Hahahaha, don't rely on showbiz for politics! Not even Clint Eastwood!

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Another example of 'FREEDOM, FREEDOM, FREEDOM!" Try that is some other countries. Beside, who really cares what she thinks. It seems that the general public gives validity to a celebrity's opinion. Every celeb puts his or her pants on the same way as everyone else: one leg at a time. There is no difference.

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Must be her age she has dementia !!!!!

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Oh Madonna! Remember when you were relevant?

Ahhh. "The salad years."

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People don't necessarily care that Madonna dabbles in current affairs (along with pretty much everything else under the sun) -- what is noteworthy is for "black Muslim" to roll so casually out of the mouth of a non-political type. Simply by virtue of being a near billionaire comes the clout and captive audience to add a certain fuel to the current political fire that is taboo for the ordinary voter. For anyone that does bother to listen, this would be more CLARIFICATION than “confusion”.

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is there anything this "celebrity won't do for attention?

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is there anything this "celebrity won't do for attention?

Are you talking about Obama ? lol

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Oh my god!! She dared call Mr.Obama black?? And then went on to use the M word??? MUSLIM!!! Ok! Ok! Let all the hypocrites here start stoning Madonna to death for her blasphemy!!! Off with her head!! Let's do it Taliban and Al Qaeda style!! Hahaha!! Sure!! She used to just like a virgin! Touched for the very first time??? People we can't it both ways, either you support American free speech or you want to chop heads off everytime your race, religion, favorite football team is insulted, right??

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What's next for this silly and over-exposed woman? Is she going to try and give credence to all the rumors that Obama was gay before a marriage of convenience to the daughter of politically connected Chicago Democrats ? So much trash on TV and the interwebz.

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