Malaysian woman to be caned for prostitution

live in the land, abide by the laws - right Chipstar?

How many for the johns?

live in the land, abide by the laws - right Chipstar?

That is correct, no matter how repugnant the laws are, unless you are ready to face the consequences.

And, it's Chip Star.

Hard labor is better than violence

Brutal and inhumane punishment. No wonder many citizens of Western nations are wary of Islam. Very sad.

Chip Star, so that means eg, no homosexuality in Malaysia. If youre gay you just gotta suppress it, right?

I think it’s time the more civilised Asian countries had a word with this country about the ‘Malaysia, truly Asia’ slogan.

A slur on the decent ones.

"caned and jailed for six months for prostitution"

What about her customers? They get off scot-free?

I hope she doesn't get 24 very hard, wounding cuts on the bare buttocks with a large, heavy, soaked rattan.

"live in the land, abide by the laws - right Chipstar?

"That is correct, no matter how repugnant the laws are, unless you are ready to face the consequences."

What if you can't leave the country? Too bad, right?

JimizoToday  08:18 pm JST

I think it’s time the more civilised Asian countries had a word with this country about the ‘Malaysia, truly Asia’ slogan.

Why? None of the nations of Asia are so insecure as to feel like another country's tourism slogan actually defines how they themselves are seen by the world. I have a feeling that any Asian country whose tourism scene actually matters on the world stage is too busy making money to worry about one of their neighbors' ad campaigns.

Do homosexual men face the same punishment? Or, is this just another abuse of women under Islamic law?

Why? None of the nations of Asia are so insecure as to feel like another country's tourism slogan actually defines how they themselves are seen by the world. I have a feeling that any Asian country whose tourism scene actually matters on the world stage is too busy making money to worry about one of their neighbors' ad campaigns.

Fair point.

I think a clever play on that well known slogan by an Asian country with 21st century civilised values could be effective and amusing.

The treatment of women and homosexuals in Malaysia under Islamic law is revolting though, isn’t it?

I did not notice this line in the article....

Caning under Islamic laws is carried out with a thin rattan cane on a person who is fully clothed. 

If the below is a true example of this, it is not as brutal as I thought. I thought they used thick bamboo rods.

Nevertheless, it looks very painful and the public humiliation is terrible. Thankfully we have no such laws in Japan and Western nations.

https://youtu.be/PuzXdbirgf8

"under Islamic law"

There should be no such thing. Religious organizations can have their rules, but these rules should not be allowed to be forced on anyone.

Parts of Malaysia still living in the 16th century it would seem.

Chip Star, so that means eg, no homosexuality in Malaysia. If youre gay you just gotta suppress it, right?

Nope. As my first post stated, if you want to live with the consequences, you don't have to follow the law. There is also the fact that non-Muslims are not bound by Islamic law, as the article states.

You seem to be trying to imply that I agree with these laws, which I absolutely do not.

You also seem to be saying that it's okay to break laws you disagree with. This leads to the inference that you are not against undocumented immigrants being in any country.

The treatment of women and homosexuals in Malaysia under Islamic law is revolting though, isn’t it?

I hope this was a rhetorical question.

The US has the First Amendment to prevent Sharia law, which means firearms are irrelevant to the conversation.

Women are under attack by male dominated societies the world over. Be it single impoverished mothers in Malaysia or teenage girls being raped by prep school types.

This is horrible and it must stop. Whatever culture perpetuates the hatred and mistreatment of women.

so that means eg, no homosexuality in Malaysia. If youre gay you just gotta suppress it, right?

@Cochise

It stinks and hopefully this too will change. Obviously, it's not just women who are discriminated against in Malaysia.

The ignorance against LGBT people is every bit as harrowing and upsetting. But look what happens when Disney has a gay character - it was accused of promoting LGBT and the authorities tried to ban it. Luckily, the bigots faced outcry and the film was screened. Small victories, sure, but the more people who become aware of the plight of the marginalised and discriminated against - the better.

And remember, Cochise, hatred of women and/or LGBT folk isn't just confined to one country or people.

This is why Malaysia, for all its attempts, is not a first world nation.

JimizoSep. 27  10:55 pm JST

I think a clever play on that well known slogan by an Asian country with 21st century civilised values could be effective and amusing.

Big red flag there. People with confidence in their own societies don't feel a need to run around claiming people who live differently are not civilized (and by implication, not properly human).

The treatment of women and homosexuals in Malaysia under Islamic law is revolting though, isn’t it?

I certainly don't agree with it. But then, it doesn't matter what I think, does it. I don't live there. I'm not a stakeholder in how Malaysian society operates. I've got work to get done; I'm too busy to dwell on judging each and every society I wouldn't want to live in.

This is horrible and it must stop. Whatever culture perpetuates the hatred and mistreatment of women.

True. We need to isolate and call out the many causes of this. One of the worst causes of it is the ideas behind and the implementation of Islamic law. If it was confined to countries like Malaysia, you could argue it has nothing to do with you. Unfortunately, these ideas have currency in societies like my home country in which these ideas are treated with the utter disdain they deserve by the vast majority.

Call them out every time.

Nobody gets a pass.

As my first post stated, if you want to live with the consequences, you don't have to follow the law. There is also the fact that non-Muslims are not bound by Islamic law, as the article states.

Apostates are subject to legal penalties in her state, so it's ridiculous to bring this up, Chip Star.

From wiki: "In five states (Perak, Pahang, Malacca, Sabah, and Terengganu) conversion is a crime punishable by a fine or imprisonment. In Pahang, conversion can also be punished with up to six strokes of the cane."