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New York City health officials issued an advisory Monday urging New Yorkers to wear masks in all indoor public settings as the city approaches “high risk” COVID-19 alert status.

Interesting as another story in this publications shows a picture of workers in China spraying disinfectant in the streets, in efforts to limit the risk of infections, and this story has no photograph of unmasked New Yorkers who would naturally be raising the risk of infections.

New York City has been averaging around 3,600 reported new cases of COVID-19 per day over the past week, a number that is likely an undercount because it doesn’t include positive tests done at home.

And some people question the validity of the numbers the Chinese government produces.

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And some people question the validity of the numbers the Chinese government produces.

Yes, because contrary to New York the numbers are open and can be confirmed by multiple sources, which do not happen in countries like North Korea and China.

It is also important that infections do not equal deaths, and decreasing infections is only a valid measure when it does not mean increasing deaths to do it. The comparison is also a false dichotomy, many countries have had perfeclty adequate control of the pandemic without universal mask use and worthless disinfection. The responses against covid are in a spectrum of efficacy and cost, and fortunately many of the most effective measures are not dependent on suspending human rights or access to health services.

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Yes, because contrary to New York the numbers are open and can be confirmed by multiple sources, which do not happen in countries like North Korea and China.

Wrong; it would be helpful to read the articles in which you are "commenting":

New York City has been averaging around 3,600 reported new cases of COVID-19 per day over the past week, a number that is likely **an undercount because it doesn’t include positive tests done at home.**

It is also important that infections do not equal deaths, and decreasing infections is only a valid measure when it does not mean increasing deaths to do it. The comparison is also a false dichotomy, many countries have had perfeclty adequate control of the pandemic without universal mask use and worthless disinfection. The responses against covid are in a spectrum of efficacy and cost, and fortunately many of the most effective measures are not dependent on suspending human rights or access to health services.

Your non-medical opinion.

But let's go with that "thought"--more infections, as in rising rates as we see in the US, New Zealand, and Australia, is resulting in more deaths, as is seen by the government generated statistics in those countries.

Suspending human rights and so forth--a different issue and not what is being discussed in the article or my comments, but not surprisingly, you mention again as an attempt to divert the attention from quantitative matters that you cannot disprove. But go ahead and fantasize.

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Your non-medical opinion.

If the argument is valid is still irrelevant who makes it, specially when you are only guessing who other people are or not.

But let's go with that "thought"--more infections, as in rising rates as we see in the US, New Zealand, and Australia, is resulting in more deaths, as is seen by the government generated statistics in those countries.

The thing is that New Zealand have more cases but less deaths than many other countries, this is because locations can focus on controlling the risk even if the number of cases increase, having more cases but less disease, less hospitalizations and less deaths is a perfectly valid approach because cases by themselves are not a burden for the health services. If the measures against the infection are (for example by being obsolete or excessive) then the remedy becomes worse than the problem. If the measures depend on suspendin human rights that makes them even worse, that is the reason why countries can be justified on putting less restrictive measures as in the case of New York, they can still be effective without having the extra cost in deaths, economy and human rights.

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The daily case counts have been rising slowly since March but have leveled off somewhat recently.

Japan will see its daily counts increase agin in a few weeks.

The thing is that New Zealand have more cases but less deaths than many other countries, this is because locations can focus on controlling the risk even if the number of cases increase, 

No, New Zealand has fewer deaths than many other countries because it has a smaller population than basically every major country in the world.

New Zealand does have one of the highest covid related deaths rate per population though; higher than Australia, Canada, and China, as examples. New Zealand adopted China's elimination strategy at first and saw very low numbers of infections; but as soon as NZ eased the restrictions the infections and related death rates zoomed upward, even passing the UK's rates, which were some of the highest in the world, as agreed by medical experts worldwide. Any argument to the contrary is taking an illogical misguided view of basic mathematics.

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