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Wave of mass shootings over Fourth of July highlights challenges police face

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By ALANNA DURKIN RICHER and COLLEEN LONG

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And police can do everything right but still won’t be able to find every gunman who wants to do harm.

America is faced with a conundrum of its own making.

Constant gun violence.

Gun licensing and registration.

A total surveillance state with militarized police.

Looks like the US is choosing a combination of the first and third.

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Thoughts and prayers, do nothing wait for the next mass shooting. Rinse and repeat.

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So far in 2023 at Good Old US there have been 339 shootings and on the 4th of July weekend there were 15 shootings..

At this rate there will be another new record for annual shootings and deaths.

Seriously, is there any hope of political will so that this madness doesn't continue to get out of control???..

Everything looks lost...

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America is faced with a conundrum of its own making. 

Constant gun violence. 

Just avoid the most violent cities.

Washington, D.C, Louisiana, Florida, Philadelphia, Texas and Baltimore

Tampa, Miami, Philly, Chicago, you have to be nuts to hang around these cities.

Gun licensing and registration. 

Wouldn’t help since a big majority of the guns used in these crimes are stolen.

A total surveillance state with militarized police. 

That’s the problem, a lot of these crime-ridden states have a defund the police problem.

Looks like the US is choosing a combination of the first and third.

Definitely, the poorest and most violent neighborhoods are the ones that suffer the most.

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The Tuesday shooting along the causeway that crosses Tampa Bay, which killed a 7-year-old, stemmed from an argument over Jet Skis that one group said were coming too close to children playing in the water.

In a normal country, this argument might have ended with fisticuffs and a bloody nose. But in the USA, it ends with a dead child.

All because of its gun fetish.

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That’s the problem, a lot of these crime-ridden states have a defund the police problem.

Perhaps you're right. I think most of the states with the highest gun death rate are Republican and are typically low tax, so perhaps this means that the police are badly funded.

So I guess that I'd you want to live in a state with less gun violence, vote Democrat.

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Definitely, the poorest and most violent neighborhoods are the ones that suffer the most.

By design as they don't have walled communities and private security forces like the ritzy neighborhoods.

Just a militarized occupation force of police and crumbling infrastructure.

Thanks to decades of Republican socialism for the rich tax cuts.

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Gun licensing and registration. 

Wouldn’t help since a big majority of the guns used in these crimes are stolen.

Licensing and registration would greatly reduce to straw man gun purchases that feed gun violence. As it stands today there are unlicensed dealers, people who buy guns from licensed dealers but turn around and sell them on the street, selling guns to anybody with money, no questions asked, in some states and that how criminals and the Mexican cartels buy their guns. If gun buyers had to be licensed and the guns registered in their name then if they turned up used in a crime the registered owner would have some 'splainin to do. Why was your gun used by someone else? Did you report it stolen? If not, why not? Did you not have it stored in a locked safe as required by law? You know, basic stuff like that. When gun buyers and gun owners know they will be held responsible for what happens to their guns you will see a reduction in illegal firearms use.

Another thing that should have happened years ago is for the DoJ to have a searchable database of gun purchases. Congress forbade the DoJ from having such a data base to their great shame. It makes solving who bought the gun used in a crime difficult and very time consuming. That has to change asap.

No it won't be 100% perfect but even if it is only 50% effective it is worthwhile. Don't let the lack of perfection become an excuse to do nothing. Reducing gun violence will take time and effort.

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Shootings won't stop. It'll get worse and worse with more right wing wrongs, but the entire US mindset believing pragmatically that you can't eliminate guns, so making regulations to try and stop the violence is the way to go, but it's only a stopgap at best.

As people go on and on that it's a mental health issue, it isn't. It's 100% about having guns and bullets first and foremost. This archaic thought process, it isn't guns, is far from critical thought, and is the obvious crust of the problem, but it's only a symptom of the true problem, the lies that pervade the conservative MO, and is such a part of their existing platforms, they don't have any idea what is right and wrong because they don't care they lie, it's promoted and done ubiquitously.

Until those lies quit, it's useless and actually not worth listening to those conservative voices who are decimating America, bit by bit.

As long as people cannot think sensibly, the lies will guide them and their choice of which 'truth' they want to follow, their screwed up minds will never allow for the critical thought necessary and guns will never be the cause of mass killings, which will not stop as long as gun lovers exist.

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Tampa, Miami, Philly, Chicago, you have to be nuts to hang around these cities.

Don't forget the greater Uvalde, Texas metro area . . .

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Given that shootings are statistically spiking on the 4th of July, I'm assuming prospective gunmen are doing it deliberately to take a shot at the country as well as they are going down.

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Well one of the mass shooters was a transgender and/or crossdressing BLM activist, so you decide what means to you.

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July 4th comes but once a year. Mass shootings cometh several times a day.

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not even close to being accurate, and you know this, but whatever.

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More young black men killing other young black men?

But let's not deal with reality because it is inconvenient.

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"Olivera Jokić, the director of the gender studies program at the John Jay College of Criminal Justice, referred to a National Institutes of Justice database that tracked U.S. mass shootings — defined as a shooting that kills four or more people — from 1966 to 2019. The research found that of the 172 people who committed public mass shootings covered in the database, 97.7% were male. The data makes no distinction between transgender and cisgender perpetrators."

https://apnews.com/article/fact-check-transgender-nashville-shooting-misinformation-cd62492d066d41e820c138256570978c

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By design as they don't have walled communities and private security forces like the ritzy neighborhoods.

So the people that followed the rules and decided not to vote for failed liberal policies should get the blame??? Wow!

Just a militarized occupation force of police and crumbling infrastructure.

Yes, and so why won't the Dems fix up these neighborhoods? Biden got buckets of our money, none of which the people ins those neighborhoods have seen.

Thanks to decades of Republican socialism for the rich tax cuts.

No, it's not the fault that conservatives decided individually that they didn't to live in these neighborhoods, perfect motivator.

Don't forget the greater Uvalde, Texas metro area . . .

Yeah, but unlike the other cities mentioned, Ulvade is not an everyday crazy and violent situation coming down.

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Whats new???????

Deja vu USA.

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The disease consuming the US is but a manifestation of its basic foreign policy i.e. profit fromm fostering discord and conflict.

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