McCain torpedos Republican effort to repeal Obamacare

Voting no on a potentially very bad bill that hasn't even been fully analyzed? This should be a routine act of basic responsibility, not an act of courage. But thanks to John McCain for acting like an adult.

Voting no on a potentially very bad bill that hasn't even been fully analyzed? This should be a routine act of basic responsibility, not an act of courage. But thanks to John McCain for acting like an adult.

Ok, so you are in favor of keeping premiums sky high and seeing more people drop their coverage, good to know.

Ok, so you are in favor of keeping premiums sky high and seeing more people drop their coverage, good to know.

Of course not. Where did you ever come up with that as being the logical alternative to supporting this ridiculous bill? Anyone with an ounce of ability to use logic can see that you are trying to present a catastrophic alternative to supporting the bill as being the only possible alternative.

Of course not. Where did you ever come up with that as being the logical alternative to supporting this ridiculous bill?

I never said, the GOP wasn't ridiculous, it's as bad as Obamacare itself, I just think they should repeal, pass it, tweak it, make the important and necessary modifications needed to lower premium costs, but to give adequate care for people that want or need it.

Anyone with an ounce of ability to use logic can see that you are trying to present a catastrophic alternative to supporting the bill as being the only possible alternative.

I never said it wasn't toxic, it's equally as foul as the ACA act, but at least the GOP can have time to detangle the mess and fix it, better than leaving it the way Obamacare was just left in the sun to rot.

but to give adequate care for people that want or need it.

This bill does neither of these things, you can't defend it.

Why is it that every GOP 'healthcare' bill ends with fewer people getting covered?

Thank you, Senator McCain...again. You give political cover not only to Collins and Murkowski but also to "Medicaid expansion"-state senators like Rob Portman who ought to be 100% against this absurd piece of ...legislation.

This bill does neither of these things, you can't defend it. 

I'm not trying to defend it. Seriously, go back and read what I wrote, leave the emotion aside. 

Why is it that every GOP 'healthcare' bill ends with fewer people getting covered?

They know what the costs are going to be. Democrats ram things through and think about the cost later, if at all and then when Republicans get elected they have to financially clean up the mess that the Democrats left. Democrats vote in lockstep, no matter what, they will vote on whatever the party wants them to vote on. Also, the GOP was never opposed to the Dems helping 22 million that didn't have health insurance, but they didn't have to overhaul the entire system, just fix it for the 22 million that didn't have insurance. There is no way the federal government can ever take care of 320 million people, not going to happen and EVEN if they promise that, we just don't have that kind of money and if the platform for the Democrats is run on income redistribution, they will lose again and again and again.

Too bad Republicans can't compromise with each other.

Yup!

I'm not trying to defend it. Seriously, go back and read what I wrote, leave the emotion aside. 

I did read it and you are defending it when you write :

so you are in favor of keeping premiums sky high and seeing more people drop their coverage, good to know

You didn't say, "I think this is a bad bill" or "Good on John McCain." You accused posters opposed to this bill of being in favor of 'keeping premiums sky high and seeing more people drop coverage. How is that not defending this bill?

They know what the costs are going to be.

How could they possibly know what the cost are going to be before the CBO scores it?

Democrats ram things through and think about the cost later

Pot meet kettle, Bass. Now, how many seconds will this bill be open to debate?

, if at all and then when Republicans get elected they have to financially clean up the mess that the Democrats left.

Nonsense. GOP is just as,bad with the budget. Tax cuts for the rich and bombs to drop on Arabs.

There is no way the federal government can ever take care of 320 million people, not going to happen

Prove it.

I did read it and you are defending it when you write :

No, I'm not, at least not in the sense that I think it's good legislation.

You accused posters opposed to this bill of being in favor of 'keeping premiums sky high and seeing more people drop coverage. How is that not defending this bill?

Yes, that's right, because keeping Obamacare in its current form will further drive up premium costs and if that happens, sooner rather than later, it will implode and it's already on its last legs, but if libs think it's so great, then it apparently must mean they don't care about the rising cost of premiums, No wonder they lost and so many legislative seats.

How could they possibly know what the cost are going to be before the CBO scores it?

Give me a break, any nitwit can at least guess about what the cost should be about roughly.

Pot meet kettle, Bass. Now, how many seconds will this bill be open to debate?

How many executive orders did Obama shove through like a sausage?

Nonsense. GOP is just as,bad with the budget. Tax cuts for the rich and bombs to drop on Arabs.

Uh-huh, sure..LOL Tax cuts for the Californian elite, you surely must hate that, right?

Prove it.

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Yes, that's right, because keeping Obamacare in its current form

Who is saying it should be kept in its current form?

SuperLibToday  05:37 pm JST

Yes, that's right, because keeping Obamacare in its current form

Who is saying it should be kept in its current form?

No one, but when has that ever stopped bass4funk's shrill political hysteria?

Standard conservative rhetoric: If you don't support my (misguided and ineffective) policy proposal, then it must be because you support the problem.

Who is saying it should be kept in its current form?

I don’t see the Dems rushing urgently to amend it.

No one, but when has that ever stopped bass4funk's shrill political hysteria?

Naw, bro, not hysterical about anything, I’m ok, when it comes to healthcare, but the Weasley Democrats and the spineless Republicans are proving that both parties are useless.

Standard conservative rhetoric: If you don't support my (misguided and ineffective) policy proposal, then it must be because you support the problem.

Translation: the left don’t have any answers as well. Thought so.

The Dems don't have a majority to amend it, and until Sept 30 were all forced to wait and see if the GOP can slam anything through, even bad policy, because they made a promise to their base and then sat on their rears for 7 years. All with your support.

McCain will never support Trump. ideared anything. At the beginning of the election, Trump accused MC was Vietnam spy against USA Force. Different more spy stories Trump spread followed.

The Dems don't have a majority to amend it, and until Sept 30 were all forced to wait and see if the GOP can slam anything through, even bad policy, because they made a promise to their base and then sat on their rears for 7 years. All with your support.

What can I say? Even I make mistakes sometimes....