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© Copyright 2022 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed without permission.McCarthy defends 1/6 audio; House GOP backs 'next speaker'
By LISA MASCARO WASHINGTON©2024 GPlusMedia Inc.
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Blacklabel
absolutely.
SuperLib
The party of Law and Order.
Yrral
Their not enough old White people left in the Republicans party,compared too the Democrats getting a new crop of White young , combine with the majority minority, Republicans are dying at record numbers, especially do too Covid
takeda.shingen.1991@gmail.com
I care, and so do lots of other people.
Frankly, we all should care, because the Trump and his loyalists tried to subvert Democracy and install himself as a dictator.
plasticmonkey
Lots of people care.
I'm sure Ronald Reagan would care too.
Look at what the GOP has become.
Blacklabel
salty tears every day now. less than 200 days to catastrophic election losses because you focusing on the wrong things. Please continue to do so.
takeda.shingen.1991@gmail.com
Yup. Nice change of topic there. I would too, if I were I were a Trump supporter who supported over-turning the election.
plasticmonkey
Morality for the GOP boils down to whatever it takes to "win".
The Avenger
Of course they don't care. It's party over country.
It's clear all the GOP cares about is power and not actually running the country for all 330m of us.
GOP in private: "Trump needs to stop this! It looks bad for us. Why isn't Trump calling on them to go home???"
GOP in public: "It's Nancy's fault."
plasticmonkey
The GOP's focus: reassuring Trump that they'll get the insurrection right in 2024.
Bob Fosse
Hiw many arrests and federal charges from that day? Remind us if the current tally.
Anyone who claims that is unimportant is frankly an imbecile.
Blacklabel
see, still cant talk about it.
Blacklabel
for insurrection, treason, any of those words you like to throw around?
zero.
takeda.shingen.1991@gmail.com
Lol wrong again. It's not zero. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.fox4news.com/news/oath-keepers-founders-trial-to-begin-in-september.amp
bass4funk
Oh, the swamp in both parties is just off the charts.
Now the Dems truly understand how infuriating this all can be. Lol
plasticmonkey
Nervous laugh, lol.
You think some cheap whataboutism counts as a defense of a blatant attempt to overturn an election?
bass4funk
No, it's just funny hearing liberal hypocrisy.
From the people that tried to overturn the election of 2016, give me a break. Lol
plasticmonkey
Nervous laugh, lol.
I don't remember an organized attempt to overturn the election of 2016. Did I miss something?
SuperLib
McCarthy shouldn't have lied to everyone, and his clear audio recording and then gibberish defense isn't helping, either.
FizzBit
Nope. You didn’t miss anything. The Trump - Russia collusion story was ALL true. The bubble will provide.
Blacklabel
the "current tally" would not include trials....that havent even started yet. nice try though.
Blacklabel
well Democrats in Congress challenged the results. more than Republicans did in 2020.
https://www.newsweek.com/fact-check-did-democrats-object-more-states-2016-republicans-2020-1561407
SuperLib
This propagandist is trying to convince you he's talking about what we're talking about. Not the case.
Congressmen often do protest votes. They know they won't get anywhere. For example the Democrats did not have both a House and a Senate rep to sign on to an objection, meaning they were all disqualified. The Democrats knew this going in, but they got their time to protest for their constituents.
The GOP went as far to have both sign on to an objection which opened up the possibility of a real vote with real consequences. Big difference between a this and a protest vote.
The GOP often does this. It's called, "Vote NO, hope YES." They feign objections to a bill, and since the writing is on the wall the GOP rep can vote NO since he know it will pass anyway. Then he can give speeches about he/she was one of the few with the courage to speak out.
But the conclusion was never in doubt. It's all political theatre.
SuperLib
Surely you can understand the difference between a protest vote and a real vote with consequences. If not, have Ted Cruz explain it to you.
takeda.shingen.1991@gmail.com
Lol What? Let's look at what OP wrote:
Blacklabel:
Me: Lol wrong again. It's not zero. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.fox4news.com/news/oath-keepers-founders-trial-to-begin-in-september.amp
Your claim that zero people have been charged with insurrection, treason, any of those words is patently false., and I can certainly see why one would move the goal posts.
Busby
Hmmmm....I guess someone missed the title of the article....
Hypocrisy, thy name is Kevin McCarthy....caught red-handed lying to the American people, and Trump supporters in particular....
He said he never was going to ask Trump to resign - said on tape exactly that...
While defending his most extreme members in public (Greene, Gaetz), he was calling them "dangerous" behind their backs...
Most tellingly, after months of bashing Twitter for "censoring" conservative voices, he wanted to do exactly that to his fellow Repub kooks - suggesting to take away their accounts...
This guy is an absolute laughing stock - this poster here the other day agreed that he was a "spineless worm"....
Which is a very accurate description of 99% of Repubs these day...
takeda.shingen.1991@gmail.com
I think there's a difference between voting not to certify votes, and say, sending an alternate slate of electors, or declaring martial law to stay in office. How about you?
bass4funk
As most liberals often do.
The left have zero room to talk about hypocrisy..
They’re extreme to the establishments power, this is very true.
Exactly, the Republican establishment being caught doing what the liberal establishment have been doing is not all that surprising.
Which is why I think he should be replaced by someone like Jim Jordan, Matt Gaetz or MTG
The establishment Washington Swamp rats, yes.
SuperLib
Conservative Lesson 48: If a Democrat gets caught, blast the Democrat. If a Republican gets caught, say both parties are bad. See Bass for details.
When you hear, "both parties do it" then your seeing the white surrender flag from Repubs.
Blacklabel
I would say that is quite the exaggeration of what happened. Martial law? Insurrection?
nope not even close to being accurate in reality.
Blacklabel
And who is now under the ownership of Trump, required to do his bidding. In other words, fully under control moving forward. He serves at trump and his supporters pleasure, subject to removal for any or no reason.
takeda.shingen.1991@gmail.com
Marjory Taylor Greene reached out to Trump's chief of staff about the possibility of using martial law, even after the violent insurrection.
Sedition? You're moving the goal posts yet again. People have been charged with sedition, and what is sedition?
I'd say that's pretty serious. Wouldn't you?
Oh yeah? Then how would you characterize the attempts made by Trump supporters to overturn the election results?
SuperLib
Sounds like a real winner, strong guy. Good he's on your side and under your control. The weak are easily manipulated and you feed off of weakness.
painkiller
Liberals are still not over Hillary's loss?
SuperLib
Just keep them away from children. They are under investigation for child molestation (Jordan), chick trafficking (Gaetz), and accusing kids of being crisis actors for "fake" school shootings (MTG).
But they own the libs, so, what's the cost of child molestation? Not much, apparently.
Busby
Check the title again - didn't know McCarthy was a leftist...
Thanks for agreeing with me...
Indeed - I guess you really do believe McCarthy is a leftist...assume you got Carlson talking point last night that "McCarthy is a puppet for the Dems"...
Two pervs and a flat-out kook...that says A LOT about the current Repub party....
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/powerful-gop-rep-jim-jordan-accused-turning-blind-eye-sexual-n888386
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/justice-department/matt-gaetz-s-ex-girlfriend-testifies-grand-jury-sex-trafficking-n1287352
https://www.vox.com/22256258/marjorie-taylor-greene-jewish-space-laser-anti-semitism-conspiracy-theories
Thanks for agreeing with me - Repubs, nothing but swamp rats...
Wow, what an amazingly accurate description - of Putin's "ownership" of Trump....well stated...
Strangerland
As a non-American, I agree. Might as well get the fall of America over with. Let’s rip off the bad aid. MTG for prez and Gaetz for First Lady!
Blacklabel
better than what we have now. without a doubt.
bass4funk
No, most Americans thought and think the establishment on both sides is bad, the main differences are: tho Republicans don’t hate their country and don’t believe in turning it over to illegals or believe that we should take money from the rich to feed the poor or enrich themselves. *See minority communities.
No, no surrender flag, just pointing out hypocrisies on both sides.
Busby
This really tells you everything you need to know about the current state of the once Grand Old Party....
House GOP Leader Kevin McCarthy received a standing ovation from House Republicans during a meeting on Wednesday after he addressed leaked audio from a phone call he made days after the January 6 Capitol riot.
“Standing ovation and Kevin will be speaker,” Representative Nancy Mace (R., S.C.) told reporters after the meeting on Wednesday, according to Fox News. Representative Jay Obernolte (R., Calif.) confirmed to Fox News that the members gave McCarthy a standing ovation.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/mccarthy-receives-standing-ovation-house-182828821.html
The guy who outright lied to the American people and his caucus on asking Trump to resign, who wanted to "censor" and "cancel" the Twitter privileges for Greene and Gaetz, and who said Gaetz's comments were possibly "illegal"....got a standing ovation....
When Trump supporters here call him a "spineless worm" and "Dem Puppet"....
What a clown show...
plasticmonkey
Well, there's always Truth Social.
Blacklabel
yes there is. And now a free speech supporting Twitter.
Blacklabel
But there has been a moderation change, shadow banning is gone, bot followers are removed, suspended accounts reinstated, can see all messages of those you follow.
takeda.shingen.1991@gmail.com
Lol none of this is true. It's not like a spigot where all of this changes once the knob is turned. The deal hasn't even been completed.
bass4funk
Was that bad? And it wasn’t an insurrection, if it were then all those people that were involved in the protest would have been charged with it. They weren’t. Gotta be careful with that in a court of law, words surprisingly do matter.
Which can always be downgraded. The Dems are legally just reaching now, after November, all this is just a memory and nothing more.
https://abcnews.go.com/US/dont-expect-charges-trump-allies-inciting-capitol-siege/story?id=75141278
Not really at this late stage.
Gosh, if only liberals took the same position back in 2016 when they weaponized the Feds to undo a duly elected President.
Blacklabel
People are no longer banned or suspended for saying things that couldn’t be said. free discourse about elections, laptops, Covid, biden family corruption/lack of transparency. Memes I haven’t seen in years are back.
100s if not thousands of conservative accounts reinstated including one of mine.
followers increase for conservative accounts and decrease for liberals. I see posts from people I follow that I didn’t see before.
if “nothing has happened yet” I can’t wait to see when it does happen.
bass4funk
So how have liberal policies been towards minorities over the last 60 years? Thankfully, more and more of them are finally waking up and leaving the Democrat party. The Republicans prefer to give these people economic opportunities and not depend on on robbing Paul to give to Peter.
Ok, so is Biden, Pelosi, the very people that want to take everyone else’s money giving up some of their money to help the poor? What jobs are they providing? What kind of training are they giving them. With all due respect you really don’t know what you’re talking about here. The richest people are liberals and the richest guy on the planet that just bought Twitter is a liberal.
With the mess that Biden and this administration has made, don’t expect that to change.
And thanks to the Democrats, instead of working with him to pass his agenda of trying to create jobs especially for the poor and protect small businesses, they push for more income redistribution. Again, I will be happy this fall when the Dems get their walking papers.
https://pjmedia.com/uncategorized/matt-margolis/2021/08/03/democrats-panic-as-latinos-and-asian-voters-leave-the-party-n1466731
https://georgiastatesignal.com/blexit-atlanta-why-black-americans-are-leaving-the-democratic-party/
Bob Fosse
I didn’t say any of that. You just did.
I said arrests and federal charges. You know, crimes.
You get often get upset about one crime but somehow want to ignore over 750 that happened at one event, choosing rather to put words in other people’s mouths instead on answering a question.
The law and order party. What a joke.
Blacklabel
like serious crimes? such as?
Yes, I think murders, shootings. race hoaxes and retail theft are more serious than trespassing or parading.
As would anyone.
Bob Fosse
The only time it is noticed is if someone famous does it. Nobody cares or listens to what some unimportant nobody tweets about.
Twitter has not changed at all since last week, not at all. You just didn’t notice because, well, your use of Twitter is completely unimportant.
takeda.shingen.1991@gmail.com
Like sedition. You erroneously claimed no one had been charged with "for insurrection, treason, any of those words you like to throw around."
This is, of course, not true. People have been charged with sedition. Sedition is language intended to incite insurrection against the governing authority.
https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/sedition#:~:text=Sedition%20is%20language%20intended%20to%20incite%20insurrection%20against%20the%20governing%20authority.
Sedition is a very serious charge, despite failed attempts by Trump supporters to downplay it's significance.