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GOP to let Trump fight election for weeks despite Biden's win

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If Dems have nothing to hide they should have nothing to fear.

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If there is one thing we’ve learned over the past for years, it’s that the GOP has zero backbone when it comes to Trump.

The Dems have nothing to hide, but are correctly concerned about the damage Trump continues to do to our institutions.

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Republicans signaled they are willing to let Trump spin out his election lawsuits and unsubstantiated claims of voter fraud for the next several weeks, until the states certify the elections by early December and the Electoral College meets Dec 14.

Baby needs a bottle I suppose...

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The Dems have nothing to hide, but are correctly concerned about the damage Trump continues to do to our institutions.

By institutions you mean checks and balances and the judicial process.

Those are there to protect the system, yet the Dems want to sidestep them and rush the process.

Only cockroaches and thieves fear the light.

Let the constitutional process play itself out, the country deserves a free and fair election.

-26 ( +10 / -36 )

By institutions you mean checks and balances and the judicial process.

> Those are there to protect the system, yet the Dems want to sidestep them and rush the process.

Incorrect. Dems want a semblance of normalcy. Did you not read the article?

Let the constitutional process play itself out, the country deserves a free and fair election.

Which it received:

There is no widespread evidence of election fraud; state officials say the elections ran smoothly. The delay has the potential to upend civic norms, impede Biden’s transition to the White House and sow doubt in the nation’s civic and election systems.

13 ( +21 / -8 )

By institutions you mean checks and balances and the judicial process.

Checks and balances? There are no congressional checks on the president. The GOP couldn't care less what kinds of laws or even norms this president violates.

Those are there to protect the system, yet the Dems want to sidestep them and rush the process.

Sidestep them? Lol Republicans want to use the process to sidestep the election and install Donald. Can anyone honestly recall a time when this process, which has existed for hundreds of years, has been used to subvert the will of the people?

I didn't like Trump, but I accepted the results. Donald lost, get over it babies.

18 ( +27 / -9 )

the president is “undermining faith in our elections.”

Undermining faith in elections among other areas the republic was built on. But then Trump and his fellow Republicans, their supporters in the US and 'abroad' have said all along that's what they want to do.

Xi, Putin, other despots plus the global pro-authoritarian, anti-democracy forces around the globe are smiling watching Trump etal continue his attacks on American systems.

10 ( +19 / -9 )

The United States of America’s democratic process has been under attack for several years.

Enough already.

Make The United States of America Sane Again.

7 ( +15 / -8 )

No way will this election be overturned, Republican openly conspire to deny minorities the right to vote

8 ( +18 / -10 )

If Dems have nothing to hide they should have nothing to fear.

There's nothing to fear, but the incoming administration should be commencing their transition.

Of course Trump did not bother with a transition when he came in - he simply closed government departments without finding out what they did. However, normally administrations used this period to prepare for government with the cooperation of the departments of state.

10 ( +18 / -8 )

It's official..

GOP represents the dark side of America..

13 ( +21 / -8 )

Wasn't getting away from these kinds of arrogant people the whole idea of America's founding fathers?

What would they think and say watching this craziness?

8 ( +14 / -6 )

there will be a smooth transition to a second Trump administration

(Pompeo quote in the last 24 hrs)

Trump will NOT leave - ever. And he has almost half of the USA behind him. In fact those almost half think Jesus is behind Trump.

10 ( +16 / -6 )

Why give up the habits of a life time?

Sad!

6 ( +11 / -5 )

Meh, okay. Have at it GOP. Knock yourselves out. So far we’ve seen all the allegations of fraud debunked and laughed out of court. Waste of Trump supporter donations.

McConnell and Republicans in Congress are so afraid of Trump 

Sums up the why. They’re afraid of Trump and don’t want to piss off Trump voters in Georgia ahead of the run offs.

The country deserves a free and fair election.

We had one. Freer than elections in say, Russia for instance...

7 ( +13 / -6 )

Following the Belarus handbook on how to accept election results.

How we're the Democrats able to falsify the presidential part of the ballot, where on the same paper they neglected to skew the senate race results???

13 ( +18 / -5 )

President Donald Trump, backed by Republicans in Congress, mounts unfounded legal challenges to President-elect Joe Biden’s election victory — a process that could now push into December.

Media:

2016 Presidential elections “It was Russian interference! Not my president!”

2020 Presidential elections “There is no electoral fraud in the United States.”

Hypocrites.

-17 ( +7 / -24 )

Personally I do not care if Trump asks every state to recount... Republicans and Trump have been pushing the idea of fraud for months. Let them recount, as I see it it is more likely that republicans themselves have been voting with fake ballots and committed voter crimes in an effort to re-elect Trump. Therefore it is very possible that Trump has lost by much more than up to now.... So Trump and Trump supporters, it is a double edged sward that you are playing with, it might just cut you instead...

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Republicans:

2016 election and beyond: No Russian interference!!!! Witch-hunt!!!

2020 election: The (lying) impeached president said they cheated! Let’s investigate!!!!

Hypocrites.

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2020 Presidential elections “There is no electoral fraud in the United States.”

There is no EVIDENCE of electoral fraud in the United States

Judge Diamond: Are your observers in the counting room?

Trump lawyer: There's a non zero number of people in the room

Judge Diamond: I’m asking you as a member of the bar of this court: are people representing the Donald J Trump for president, representing the plaintiffs, in that room?the

Trump lawyer: Yes.

Judge Diamond: I'm sorry, then what's your problem?

17 ( +21 / -4 )

What is he, what are they fighting for?

Like a new Don Quichote! Windmills .... those things that kill birds, ya know.

Get over it, you lost, you're terminated.

But maybe this has to be posted on his most reliable site, TWITTER, so he finally tries to understand!

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And in addition there have been clear and well documented Republican all out effort of voter suppression in areas which are likely to vote Democrat. So let Barr investigate and see if he finds crimes committed by Republicans instead. And in the process embarrass GOP domestically and internationally...

4 ( +11 / -7 )

Only cockroaches and thieves fear the light.

And bankrupt tax cheats

5 ( +10 / -5 )

The press don't get to decide who gets elected to office, after all the votes have been tallied, filed and checked for errors, (electronic as well as physical), the electoral college will meet in December to decide who will be elected based upon the tallied votes. The press announcing a win for Biden is premature and at this point in time, biased. Joe Biden accepting the media's conclusion without making any effort to explain the above is reckless. If Trump does win after all the votes are tallied, it'll make him look like a proper fool.

In short, the outcome hasn't been decided yet and can still go either way.

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As if the GOP would ever do something that makes things easy on the DEMs.

But if they want to investigate, let them. The victory would be that much sweeter when Trump still loses. Biden isn't wasting any time getting his ducks in a row anyway.

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The White House refusing to sign the transfer document to release $10 million needed by the Biden government to make it happen.

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Media:

2016 Presidential elections “It was Russian interference! Not my president!”

2020 Presidential elections “There is no electoral fraud in the United States.”

Hypocrites.

I agree.

They are hypocrites. But as rational people know, Never Trump people were a noisy minority, much like Trump's supporters (as this election has proven). Though they did make for good media coverage.

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Media:

2016 Presidential elections “It was Russian interference! Not my president!”

2020 Presidential elections “There is no electoral fraud in the United States.”

Hypocrites.

Candidates:

2016 Presidential elections: Clinton quickly conceded and wished Trump luck when the results came in showing she had lost.

2020 Presidential elections: Trump throws a fit, goes into hiding from the public and orders his lawyers to do everything they can to fix the election for him after he lost it by a mile and a half.

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In short, the outcome hasn't been decided yet and can still go either way.

not likely

The media don’t purport to decide. They report the results as shared by election officials. As they have in previous elections. As is their job.

oh, and Trump himself prematurely declared himself the winner... I guess that was reckless? Will Trump look the fool “if” Biden wins?

10 ( +16 / -6 )

If Trump does win after all the votes are tallied, it'll make him look like a proper fool.

As opposed to trump already looking like a proper fool and having the whole world laugh at him a little harder when he finally concedes.

9 ( +15 / -6 )

By letting Trump does what he wanted regardless of damages to the integrity of the US constitution, it is the end of the GOP as the world has known it.

Despite this set back, I hope that several remarkable statements and efforts by ethical Republican individuals and groups, such as the former President George W. Bush, Senator Mitt Romney, and the Lincoln Project respectively would encourage the right-minded GOP politicians to be brave enough to say no to Trump's unethical demands.

8 ( +12 / -4 )

Good!

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As if the Republican Party doesn’t already come across as trash, they are literally running their name into the ground further by trying to overrule a fair, democratic election. There is literally no proof of voter fraud to this day and with little time they have to prove otherwise, it should have come to the surface by now. I’d say certain Republicans are backing trump because they know that once he’s out, he’ll have no qualms about naming anyone and everyone in that party who has conspired with him throughout his corrupt presidency.

7 ( +13 / -6 )

The Republicans have painted their elephant orange: the legacy of "Trumpism" will haunt them like a succubus for years to come. The Dems will have to stop playing footsie with their unscrupulous rivals and take seriously the task of dismantling the political machinery that has enabled the Republicans to keep a stranglehold on state legislatures with their shameless gerrymandering and Machiavellian schemes for voter suppression, not forgetting their packing state courts with right-wing Republican judges that gives their anti-American conduct a facade of "legality". Draining America's swamp and pulling out the GOP elephant is indeed a task that would need a Herculean effort probably beyond the capabilities of Biden and the present bunch of self-serving donkeys. Will we have to wait for AOC's generation to finish the job of MAGA?

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AFRet

The press don't get to decide who gets elected to office, after all the votes have been tallied, filed and checked for errors, (electronic as well as physical), the electoral college will meet in December to decide who will be elected based upon the tallied votes. The press announcing a win for Biden is premature and at this point in time, biased.

Why is it biased in 2020, but not biased in 2016, 2012, 2008, etc.? They call it every election. It's not official, but the result never changes.

Joe Biden accepting the media's conclusion without making any effort to explain the above is reckless.

So was Trump's decision to accept the media's conclusion reckless in 2016?

In short, the outcome hasn't been decided yet and can still go either way.

No. The outcome has been decided. Biden won. Time to accept this fact. It hasn't been certified by all the different states, but that is merely an official stamp.

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...McConnell and Republicans in Congress are so afraid of Trump they are willing to risk the nation's tradition of an orderly transition.

How do the Republicans in Congress manage to sit up straight in their seats, given their complete invertebracy? You'd think they'd be physically incapable of it.

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Mitch is trying to keep the wind in the sails for the Senate playoffs in January. That guy is as cynical as it comes. He conned Trump into appointing ACB before the election and doesn't care for him now. He also knows that Trump has no chance winning the legal challenges that he is making.

Not that he is likely to lose control of the Senate, but he's not taking any chances.

As for the other senators not congratulating Biden on the win? Spineless. Oh how the GOP has fallen.

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“It’s not unusual, should not be alarming," McConnell told reporters on Capitol Hill. "At some point here we’ll find out, finally, who was certified in each of these states, and the Electoral College will determine the winner. ... No reason for alarm.”

Democrats were livid,

Senate Democratic leader Chuck Schumer said the president is “undermining faith in our elections.” (HAHA Dems been doing that since when ever)

Biden, taking questions from reporters in Delaware, called the president's refusal to concede an “embarrassment.”( No its not )

"How can I say this tactfully?" Biden said. “I think it will not help the president's legacy.”

Biden said he understands Trump voters' “sense of loss.” But he said, “They understand we have to come together. ... We can pull the country out of this bitter politics.” ( For the last 4 years the democrats have been tryign to pull the country apart)

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Christopher Miller's appointment to the position of Secretary of Defense is illegal on two counts. Number one, the Senate confirmed Deputy Secretary of Defense was passed over. By law he should have assumed the position of Secretary of Defense until the Senate could confirm a nominee to fill the position. Number two, Mr. Miller retired from the Army in 2014. Federal law requires a period of ten years to elapse between when one leaves the uniformed military and their assumption of the position of Secretary of Defense unless there is a Congressional waiver as was the case with James Mattis. Mr. Miller has only been out of uniform for six years and he has not received a Congressional waiver. Any orders he gives are therefor illegal. Recent Federal court rulings regarding the illegality of the appointments of William Pendley and Ken Cuccinelli are instructive.

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Secretary of State, Mike Pompeo,  at a State Department news conference, claiming there will be a smooth transfer of government to a second Trump term on Feb 20.

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How do the Republicans in Congress manage to sit up straight in their seats, given their complete invertebracy? You'd think they'd be physically incapable of it.

Hot air rises. They are like inflatable yard decorations you see at Halloween and Christmas, Nothing but hot are. No substance.

9 ( +11 / -2 )

While we have no choice but let the process play out, pay VERY close attention to who Trump fires in the coming days.

don’t assume it can’t happen. The founders in all their wisdom could not account for the Donald Trump/Mitch McConnell combo. Our system may not survive in the hands of those totally lacking either honor or the ability to be shamed.

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Are there any adults around this man child?

9 ( +13 / -4 )

Media: We go live to President Trump's press conference at the White House.

Trump: Here is the evidence to prove election fraud. In Wiscon....

Media: We break away from this ridiculous claim from the former President of election fraud. He has zero evidence as we have been reporting all along.

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Christopher Miller's appointment to the position of Secretary of Defense is illegal on two counts. Number one, the Senate confirmed Deputy Secretary of Defense was passed over. By law he should have assumed the position of Secretary of Defense until the Senate could confirm a nominee to fill the position. 

gee, why would Trump do that?

5 ( +8 / -3 )

The GOP has shown in their comments and actions for at least the last year that their election strategy is to undermine the process and steal it through the courts if necessary. They knew all along they wouldn't get the popular vote.

They are now nothing but a bunch of looney conspiracists who are a disgrace to democracy.

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@Burning Bush

If Dems have nothing to hide they should have nothing to fear.

Why would they have anything to fear?

1) Presidential election was honest, report international observers invited by the Trump administration

https://www.yahoo.com/news/presidential-election-was-honest-report-international-observers-invited-by-the-trump-administration-193613745.html

2) Judge Throws Out Trump Campaign’s Lawsuit Over Nevada’s So-Called ‘Late Night Coup’

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/judge-throws-out-trump-campaign-s-lawsuit-over-nevada-s-so-called-late-night-coup/ar-BB19gWe7

“All four of the lawsuits that the Trump administration has filed in our state have been thrown out that I have been participating in,” explained Nevada Attorney General Aaron Ford. 

LOL!

8 ( +11 / -3 )

What a bunch of sore losers! Graceless Old Party.

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2020hindsightsToday  08:58 am JST

Why is it biased in 2020, but not biased in 2016, 2012, 2008, etc.? They call it every election. It's not official, but the result never changes.

Those elections were clear-cut and dried. This election is a lot closer to the 50/50 split with no clear winner at this time.

So was Trump's decision to accept the media's conclusion reckless in 2016?

Again, clear-cut. Foregone conclusion, etc.

No. The outcome has been decided. Biden won. Time to accept this fact. It hasn't been certified by all the different states, but that is merely an official stamp.

No. The outcome in key states is very close to within several thousand votes. The election has not been determined and to call it prematurely is folly.

-5 ( +5 / -10 )

Not surprising! Guess, who did break the law?

Trump campaign lawyers may have violated Privacy Act and USPS rules in Nevada voter fraud lawsuit.

https://usa-onlinenews.com/2020/11/07/trump-campaign-lawyers-may-have-violated-privacy-act-and-usps-rules-in-nevada-voter-fraud-lawsuit/

7 ( +11 / -4 )

The GOP has shown in their comments and actions for at least the last year that their election strategy is to undermine the process and steal it through the courts if necessary. They knew all along they wouldn't get the popular vote.

They are now nothing but a bunch of looney conspiracists who are a disgrace to democracy.

Al Gore was allowed to fight for his election in 2000 for more than 30 days.

Trump will have until Dec. 13th for the investigation to conclude and for the court cases to be adjudicated before a possible appeal to SCOTUS. At which point SCOTUS might win in and decide the election. The 2000 election set a bad precedent with this, but it is what it is.

-4 ( +4 / -8 )

Wow! Trump is acting so presidential by putting his focus on "fraud" in the elections, rather than the ever-growing severity of the COVID-19 pandemic. On the other hand, we have Biden, who is taking real steps to tackle this problem head on by selecting experts to head a task force as quickly as possible. He has done more in a week, than Trump has done in 9 months.

Besides, there continues to be no evidence of fraud. The Organization of American States (OAS) sent 28 representatives from 13 different countries to observe, monitor, talk to many officials at voting centers. They went in before, during, and after Nov.3rd. During their talks, studies and observations, they witnessed no fraud or voting irregularities whatsoever.

The report says the OAS supports “the right of all contesting parties in an election, to seek redress before the competent legal authorities when they believe they have been wronged.”

“It is critical however, that candidates act responsibly by presenting and arguing legitimate claims before the courts, not unsubstantiated or harmful speculation in the public media,” the OAS says.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2020/11/10/no-2020-election-fraud-u-s-international-observers-report/6234390002/

https://s.wsj.net/public/resources/documents/PreliminaryReportoftheOASEOMUSA2020.pdf

6 ( +9 / -3 )

Are there any adults around this man child?

The fact that McConnell is backing Trump up on this one should show you that yes, there are, and bodes badly for Biden's chances. Mitch is very cautious and doesn't just back up whatever inanities Trump throws out there. That tells me there is a serious legal case here.

Trump's odds of winning have been narrowing dramatically on BetFair, for example.

-7 ( +3 / -10 )

The Party of Eisenhower, Reagan, and both Bushes died in 2016 - it morphed into a religious cult, that spurned its previous core values of fiscal disciple, American leadership in the world, and morality and decency.

It's now a kooky compilation of white supremacists, anti-government insurgents, and QAnon nutters...

Whether it will return to its previous position as a true conservative party is up in the air - with these spineless comments supporting the vanquished cult leader, it seems doubtful...

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To the Trump faithful.

we (or at least, I) ask that you demand from the Trump administration the same thing you are demanding from us. Let the process play out without outside interference.

that means no rallies, no pressure campaigns on GOP state legislatures to ignore popular vote and send Trump electors to the electoral college. Let the recounts happen and the court cases be heard.

it sends an incredibly bad signal when the Pres starts firing those in his government who acknowledge that his authority is not limitless.

6 ( +10 / -4 )

Trump actually thinks that he is bigger that the USA and 200 years of history and process he's nothing but a career con artist that is ruining the USA. He lost the election find some class and move on.

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AFRet

Those elections were clear-cut and dried. This election is a lot closer to the 50/50 split with no clear winner at this time.

There is a clear cut winner. Currently 279 electoral college votes, probably more. You only need 270 to win. Clear cut.

No. The outcome in key states is very close to within several thousand votes. The election has not been determined and to call it prematurely is folly.

Have you heard of decision desks? They don't decide states unless there is no chance that the winner will change. Now, I'll admit that I believe Fox and AP were premature to call Arizona, but all other states that have been called are clear cut. And by the way, when the rust belt states were called in 2016, they were only by a few thousand votes - just like 2020, only in the opposite direction. And Hillary gracefully conceded.

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I am sorry but the repubs are PURE scatterbrains on this, they want to stop the count, they want to start the count, they want to add ballets, subtract ballots

Total scatterbrains, very UN-american if you ask me

3 ( +8 / -5 )

Joe Blow

Mitch is very cautious and doesn't just back up whatever inanities Trump throws out there.

He picks his battles, for sure. In this case he wants to keep people interested for the Georgia runoff elections for control of the senate. I.e. he is fighting for his own job!

That tells me there is a serious legal case here.

Rather than letting that tell you about the legal cases, why don't you look at the cases themselves. As someone who has had a look, I can tell you, it doesn't look good. And if you gauge the judges reactions to the cases already presented: "Get outta here" would be a fair description of their reactions.

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4 Years ago today: Obama shook Trump's hand and said "We'll do everything we can to make sure you succeed because if you succeed, American succeeds."

Today: Trump is hiding in his room, too humiliated to even show his face to the public it would seem, refusing to accept reality and doing everything he can to sabotage his successor before he even starts the job.

7 ( +12 / -5 )

Courts decide not media outlets...

-7 ( +5 / -12 )

The GOP claims for 2016 and 2018 fell by the wayside. Why should we believe them now?

5 ( +9 / -4 )

Courts decide not media outlets...

Its neither the media nor the courts who decide elections, it is the voters. And they've already made their decision.

6 ( +12 / -6 )

Absolutely obscene waste of money. Money which would be better spent on fighting the CV. 'Embarrassment' indeed, nail on the head. Roll on January.

7 ( +11 / -4 )

Years were dedicated to the Russiagate case, which had no evidence. It's not unreasonable to ask for a couple of weeks to ascertain if fraud took place in this election.

-8 ( +4 / -12 )

Nothing to fear? Reasonable?

Yea, lets hamper the transition of power and incite the right with spurious conjecture. That will solve something.

The GoP fears the Senate runoff in Georgia.

If the GoP doesn't play along with Trump fantasy that he lost the election, then his supporters in Georgia may not support the Senate runoff in Georgia, which could cause them to lose control over the Senate.

This runoff is the next most important election after ousting the man baby.

8 ( +11 / -3 )

Regardless who is determined to have won the election, Trump, Barr, McConnell, their fellow Republicans plus others around the globe pushing anti-democracy, pro-authoritarianism have made people question voting in America.

The far right attacks on democracy continue. Xi, Putin, Erdogan and 'royals' everywhere are smiling at what their Trump has done in less than four years.

9 ( +12 / -3 )

Its neither the media nor the courts who decide elections, it is the voters. And they've already made their decision.

A. Not all votes have been counted yet.

B. There appears to have been human error, machine error, and vote tampering, at which point legal entities need to get involved.

-9 ( +4 / -13 )

There is a court system that deals with upcoming issues... Media outlets are not judges. How about let the courts decide? Many people coming forward now testifying under oath showing fraud was going on. Only the Media which is anti trump anyway declared creepy child touching biden as winner.

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Biden saw this coming, and set up and financed a shadow government in transition months ago. They've just released the names of their first group of agency heads. Remember what competence and integrity mean?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/biden-transition-team-federal-agencies/2020/11/10/6b4b6388-237f-11eb-a688-5298ad5d580a_story.html

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Meme of the week: 'the media don't decide'. Joining 'hoax', 'fake news', 'fraud', 'witch hunt,' and 'government overreach' among so many others in the alt right glossary.

Given the individual states' roles in elections, how's the federal government's 'overreach' in this election being reported by far right media. What do Breitbart, RT, Gateway Pundit and the dozens of other outlets say. I won't give them a click so they can get even richer.

9 ( +12 / -3 )

Betfair odds on Trump becoming president dropped from 27/1 to 13/1 over the last couple of days. It's now 11/1. Whoever put money down a couple of days ago will be laughing soon.

-10 ( +2 / -12 )

doesn't matter who will rule .capitalism as such is finished... All your wealth will be taken away... You will own nothing soon. Check up World economic forum.. The great reset..lol

-10 ( +2 / -12 )

@Tangerine,

100% agree, but according to MSM, it appears he is accepting his "path to losing" I knew he would. Allot of people loved him, and he will probably have a sayonara rally.

Trump did a very poor job of inventorying all the Dem failures and hypocrisy, they were numerous but it would of helped his campaign, as would this latest COVID vaccine.

Ive moved on to more interesting things; The Dem Show. While concerning, its also very entertaining. Its surreal to think just months ago, Kamela was yelling, or trying to convince us by yelling, during the Dem debates, that Joes "man of the times" racist busing polices affected her personally. Joes response was the usual stupor. Now its all warm and fuzzy.

I was around in 1992, when Powell, member of a conservative republican Bush team managed the deployment of US Marines and Army Federal troops to control the LA riots.

A familiar name appeared: Maxine Waters. Seems she was about nothing then, just as she is now....1992 - 2020...well you do the math. We need logrithmic math to quantify the Dems buffoonery.

Joe Collins, a Navy vet and AA from her district, was showcasing her incompetence during his run for office. Waters response was

" For those Black young men who think somehow they can align themselves with Trump, not only are they terrible mistaken, any of them showing their face, I will never, ever forgive them for undermining the possibility to help their own people and their own communities."

One of many Trumps accomplishments was his lack of fear of retaliation. There is no better catalyst for change than someone who can showcase your dirt without fear or retribution.

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You can smell the fear already, some of the MSM are already walking back their overly hasty declaring of Biden the winner. Meanwhile the legal challenges mount and Trump is getting the right people he needs in position to flush out the traitors and strangle this attempted Democratic coup in its crib. Get ready for the storm.

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Nov 3 election---------Dec 14 EC-----------Jan 20 Inauguration of president Biden.------2024 Trump runs again.

Trump's impeachment was dismissed by the reptiles in the senate.

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Joe Blow

A. Not all votes have been counted yet.

They don't need to be. They only need to be counted to such a stage that the outcome won't change. They will eventually all be counted.

B. There appears to have been human error, machine error, and vote tampering, at which point legal entities need to get involved.

No there doesn't. That's why Trump's teams cases are getting thrown out of court.

7 ( +10 / -3 )

President Trump has found a more lucrative way to make money other than real estate.

Politics.

His campaign raised close to a Billion dollars in donations and there's no way he's going out the door without grabbing as much in donations as he can.

11 ( +12 / -1 )

"Whoever put money down a couple of days ago will be laughing soon." And anyone foolish enough to take that bet at any odds will be crying soon...

7 ( +10 / -3 )

Trump's House of Cards about to tumble down.

7 ( +11 / -4 )

The USPS whistleblower that claimed he witnessed fraud has apparently recanted his statement, according the the Washington Post.

The whistleblower has revealed his identity and has made a video within the last hour stating that he has not recanted his statement and wishes the Washinton Post to take down their article.

https://twitter.com/JamesOKeefeIII/status/1326337154050641920

-6 ( +4 / -10 )

Fox News called it for Biden. Thousands of Trump supporters outside counting station on their knees praying for Trump to win.

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zichiToday 12:00 pm JST

Fox News called it for Biden.

Lol, Fox News is part of the controlled opposition within the tent of the MSM. Nobody genuinely on the right trusts Fox News anymore than they trust CNN. Try harder.

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While we have no choice but let the process play out, pay VERY close attention to who Trump fires in the coming days.

There has already been a bit of a purge at the Pentagon over the last two days as Esper's undersecretaries leave and are replaced by Trump loyalists including one that the Senate refused on a bipartisan basis to confirm for the post he just assumed (Tata).

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A U.S. Postal Service (USPS) employee whose claims about Erie, Pennsylvania postal workers being ordered to backdate mail-in ballots were touted by Republicans as evidence of widespread voter fraud “completely recanted” his allegations, according to the House Committee on Oversight and Reform.

https://lawandcrime.com/2020-election/usps-whistleblower-in-pennsylvania-completely-recanted-allegations-of-election-fraud/

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Did your name used to be Bass?

There are many alt right posters, some volunteer. Shame that the US economy under Trump was so bad that some 'American' 'journalists' had to seek employment abroad and resort to being paid trolls for anti-American governments.

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So here is a thought. What happens to all the downballot elections if ballots are thrown out? The choice of the next President wasn't the only name on all of those ballots. Who else and what state and local initiatives might be affected by a recount? Can a ballot be thrown out for the Presidential vote tally but still counted for the other races? Will candidates in the downballot races file counter suits to protect their votes? If I were a possibly affected candidate I know I would. Some ballot initiatives have supporters with seemingly bottomless bank accounts who can afford the best legal representation. This could be a multi sided free for all in short order if other ballot races are affected by Presidential politics.

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A U.S. Postal Service (USPS) employee whose claims about Erie,

Truth and facts don't matter to true believers. Remember, some are still convinced there are alien reptiles involved. Trump and the global alt right prey on America's 70,000,000 or so intellectually vulnerable.

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This is the very worst kind of peer pressure, the kind where you are afraid to speak your true mind because you fear the repercussions of your fellow neocons.

This is why so many republicans have made the conscious decision to not say anything rather than risk facing the wrath of your fellow republicans by saying Trump shoud concede, that there is no evidence whatsoever of widescale election fraud. These cowardly republicans are trying to have the best of both worlds. Not outwardly saying what is truthfully on your mind and staying silent, so as to give the impression you agree with what Trump is doing.

This is why Mitt Romney deserves our respect for not being afraid to say what is truth and what is right.

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LOL. Why are the Republican congressmen afraid of pissing off Trump supporters in GA of all places? It’s not like they’re going to suddenly vote for the Democratic candidate.

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Remember, some are still convinced there are alien reptiles involved. Trump and the global alt right prey on America's 70,000,000 or so intellectually vulnerable.

Almost 72,000,000 (currently 71,896,869)

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Desert Tortoise

So here is a thought. What happens to all the downballot elections if ballots are thrown out?

That's a very good point. It highlights the absurdity of the claims.

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@ zichi

So is this postal worker being charged with anything. Surely that would keep the lions from coming out of the woodwork.

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So is this postal worker being charged with anything. Surely that would keep the lions from coming out of the woodwork.

He isn't at the moment. The article Zichi posted a link to is from yesterday. The whistleblower has announced within the last hour that he hasn't recanted his statement.

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“Here are the facts: Richard Hopkins is a USPS employee in Erie, Pa. He signed a sworn affidavit with allegations of ballot tampering/fraud and went public through Project Veritas. USPS [Inspector General] began investigating last week,” the House Oversight Committee said from its official Twitter account. “USPS IG investigators informed Committee staff today that they interviewed Hopkins on Friday, but that Hopkins RECANTED HIS ALLEGATIONS yesterday and did not explain why he signed a false affidavit.”

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the House Oversight Committee said from its official Twitter account. “USPS IG investigators informed Committee staff today that they interviewed Hopkins on Friday, but that Hopkins RECANTED HIS ALLEGATIONS yesterday and did not explain why he signed a false affidavit.”

Which was posted 5 hours ago.

The whistleblower has stated within the last hour that he has not recanted.

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Next time an American President asks a foreign Banana Republic, tin pot dictator to respect democracy, he/she will be laughed at.

trump and the neutered GOP has made the country a laughing stock!!!

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All of trump's bluster is just that, come Jan 20 he will run , tail between legs!!!

The spineless GOP will invent a new lie to cover its lies!!1

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Trump says that they were winning the election and that it's too surprising for him that Biden had a comeback win. Hey, Trump, it happens. I guess you don't watch sports because then you would know that you have to keep playing until the final whistle has been blown. You don't stop counting ballots when you're in the lead, just like you don't stop playing a game just because you're in the lead. But now, you want to stoop to illegal tactics of your own and try to steal the election through the courts. And while they are investigating, who can say that you are not trying some illegal way to sneakily slip in some prepared ballots of your own when they allow some of your people in?

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"How can I say this tactfully?" Biden said. “I think it will not help the president's legacy.”

Biden said he understands Trump voters' “sense of loss.” But he said, “They understand we have to come together. ... We can pull the country out of this bitter politics.”

How can I say this tactfully? Silence is golden.

It's best if Biden just kept quiet and continue to be assiduous in putting together his team. Learn from the Japanese: the winner is not going to have any thing but positive words for the losing opponent.

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The 2020 Presidential Election is 100% going to the United States Supreme Court, where the Justices will rule that this election is invalid due to Voter Fraud on a countrywide scale. This will go one of two ways.

1) Either SCOTUS will rule that all the unconstitutional Mail-In ballots will be removed from the Total Votes, and the states are ordered to hand-recount WITHOUT them, OR...

2) SCOTUS will simply rule the election is invalid due to countrywide Voter Fraud, and at that point it will be sent to the US House and US Senate for a vote. This is where it gets good.

The US House and US Senate would vote on who the President and VP will be. This has nothing to do with what Political Party that has power. Every State gets ONE VOTE, according to the 12th Amendment. 31 State Houses are held by Republicans, and 19 by Democrats.

The Senate, then, votes for the Vice President. This is the Law.

The only way President Trump will NOT be re-elected is if he concedes — and this will NEVER happen. So, stop watching the Fake News, and watch all those sycophantic globalist clowns like Macron and Merkel have to apologize and congratulate President Trump on his re-election.

President Donald J. Trump will remain President of the United States. Pelosi is in quite the predicament here. If the Supreme Court says the election must be decided by Congress, Pelosi will not want to do it, knowing Trump would win. But if she refuses, Trump would, then, of course, refuse to concede. Queue the impasse. Do you see Trump’s advantage here? Pelosi has no option, unless the wants a hand-recount of ALL LEGAL VOTES.

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Richard Hopkins signed a sworn Affidavit. Did someone get to him, offer him money?

"Texas Lt. Gov. Dan Patrick, a Republican, announced Tuesday that he is offering a reward of up to $1 million from his campaign account for “whistleblowers and tipsters” from anywhere in the nation that are able to come forward with evidence of voter fraud, further underscoring that the fraud claims made to date have flopped."

That will bring out the worms!

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Media: We go live to President Trump's press conference at the White House. 

Trump: Here is the evidence to prove election fraud. In Wiscon.... 

Media: We break away from this ridiculous claim from the former President of election fraud. He has zero evidence as we have been reporting all along.

Is that a real transcript or did you imagine it? Do send the source if it exists, I couldn’t find it.

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GOP figures go on the record on background (because they are scared of angering Trump) and say, "This has no chance. This is all a show to make him feel better. We need his voters in GA."

They are craven cowards. But at least they are honest in their craven cowardness.

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Media: We go live to President Trump's press conference at the White House.

Oh! hang on a moment, he's out playing golf again. Got to work off all of his Twitter posting stress.

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Richard Hopkins signed a sworn Affidavit. Did someone get to him, offer him money?

So has he recanted?

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Oh! hang on a moment, he's out playing golf again. Got to work off all of his Twitter posting stress.

I’d be happy if he spent the next 2 months just golfing, though the amount of taxpayer money that would be spent in such a scenario would make me sad.

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Where's Trump's evidence that 5 million + illegal votes for Biden?

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That's a no then. Seems you are keeping up the habit of being wrong.

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Ego Sum Lux Mundi

The 2020 Presidential Election is 100% going to the United States Supreme Court, where the Justices will rule that this election is invalid due to Voter Fraud on a countrywide scale. This will go one of two ways.

Nice fan fiction fantasy. However, in reality nothing is going to SCOTUS. Nothing is going to the courts without evidence, and sorry to disappoint, but it's not there. I know the reality hurts, but Trump lost. Indulging in fantasy may ease the pain, but it's not recommended long term.

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It's incredible how many have no idea how US law or democracy works. Ego Sum's fanfic ignores that Pelosi wouldn't be able to do much since, if all the votes of the election were thrown out (which, to be clear, would never happen) then the House couldn't sit because there would be no elected Representatives.

That's right, Republicans. Other people aside from the President were elected last week. Unless you want to make the argument that votes cast for President by someone were illegal but that same person's vote for the House and Senate were legal, despite those three votes all being on the same ballot.

Good luck.

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That's a no then. Seems you are keeping up the habit of being wrong.

As opposed to your being half-wrong?

Trump will win. There'll be many who will refuse to accept the result and things will spiral from there.

lol

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As opposed to your being half-wrong?

So when Trump wins, you don't think people who hate him won't riot?

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So when Trump wins, you don't think people who hate him won't riot?

Trump lost. Past tense.

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Trump lost. Past tense.

Interesting. So you think it's completely impossible for him to win. Odds on Betfair have dropped to 10/1,

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Interesting. So you think it's completely impossible for him to win.

Yes. You cannot win once you have lost.

Odds on Betfair have dropped to 10/1,

Fools and their money are soon parted. Just look at the chumps throwing cash at the Trump campaign to try and settle their debts. I thought Trump was meant to be a multi-billionaire! Why doesn't he pick up the check?

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For Time magazine's "Mantra of the Year" I nominate "Count all the legal votes - Don't count the illegal votes!"

Sooo Madison Avenue, but wolfishly clever enough to fool the gullible sheeple with that herd mentality on which the cynical string-pullers of the GOP batten to feed their lust for power and personal profit.

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Ive seen you post that allot. I never seen Trump give any WS an eulogy.

He just says they're "very fine people" and asks that they "stand back and stand by" while cheerleading the figures of the Confederate States of America, a group of criminal secessionists and traitors whose aborted attempt at a country was literally based on white supremacy. Come to think of it, most Republicans love the Confederates. Why is the GOP so pro-treason?

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@Tangerine2000

Years were dedicated to the Russiagate case, which had no evidence. It's not unreasonable to ask for a couple of weeks to ascertain if fraud took place in this election.

I see someone is being dishonest........

Bipartisan Senate Report Shows How Trump Colluded With Russia in 2016

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/08/bipartisan-senate-report-shows-2016-trump-russia-collusion.html

Republican-Led Senate Panel Backs Intelligence Findings On Russian Interference

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/senate-intelligence-committee-russian-interference_n_5e9f3aefc5b6b2e5b839239c?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly9zZWFyY2gueWFob28uY29tLw&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAHOZpMcFdXMIVeww2lGRIsR3O2NBlR79HHrzlGRti38zd3lY0NziRvJo9crbkcqzoLkA4HHLvBL9WU4j88Q0o35WUnqsnN-6myvEC2m7A1iP0uLPF8_Jq3-Jue107l9R23-o2I5JcDGJvhMuj5XLs5yvMs9tb-cE8J1DFdWV-Mmc

The Senate report endorsed the core conclusions of the intelligence community assessment that Russia had interfered on a grand scale in the 2016 U.S. presidential election and that Russian President Vladimir Putin directed the interference. “The Committee found that specific intelligence as well as open source assessments support the assessment that President Putin approved and directed aspects of this influence campaign,” the Senate report states.

Oh, my.........Blacklabel!!!

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One thing I don't get is the whole "media don't call the election" argument. No, obviously they don't. They report the vote tallies. I have a phone screencap from 2016 when the BBC clearly announced that "Donald Trump [was] elected the next president of the United States" by the end of election day. I believe Trump also had a victory speech event that very night as well. Why wasn't that the media "calling the election"? The electoral college hadn't case their votes, but Trump was named as the next president. This election isn't even that close either, certainly not to the point where recounting is likely to change the president elect. Why is this election held to such different standards with regard to how the media is commenting on it?

Oh, wait. I feel I already know the answer to my own question.

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GOP to let Trump fight election for weeks despite Biden's win

What kind of headline is this?

Biden has only "won" in the media. In the real world, the election is still not called.

Do we really want to live in a world where the media decides an electiom?

In such a world, the media are indeed the enemy of the people.

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