Melania Trump 'hates' to see families separated at border

Wonder if she would tell that to trumpy?

Shouldn't she be talking to her husband?

Kellyanne Conway Claims ‘Nobody Likes’ Policy Of Family Separation At Border

https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/kellyanne-conway-claims-nobody-likes-144626923.html

Some Trump administration officials have admitted the policy is aimed at deterring would-be undocumented immigrants or asylum seekers from attempting to cross into the U.S. out of fear that they will be separated from their children. Implementing the policy solely for deterrence purposes, however, has been ruled illegal by U.S. judges.

One Trump administration official told The Washington Post that the harsh separation practices were meant to force Democrats to negotiate immigration laws more in line with the White House’s demands.

The policy is solely deterrence and is illegal.

The administration is so dumb, they couldn't even keep their lies straight. Of course, Trump can't keep any lie straight.

Zero tolerance would have landed Melania in Federal detention or been deported when she overstayed her visa and was working in the US without a permit.

This is about as courageous, and sincere, as her 'fight' against bullying.

Why is this from the mouth of her spokesperson not from her? She can take a taxi to the UN headquarters and make a televised speech there for all the world to see. The Obana wife did very public speeches...

I wonder how long it will be before we find out she's become the honorary principal of a kindergarten.

The Obana wife did very public speeches...

And she can 'borrow' one of her speeches too.

So instead of blame, how can we fix this?

The last guy kept them in cages and also turned then over to human traffickers, media and Dems seemed ok with that solution when they were the ones doing it.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/obama-administration-placed-children-with-human-traffickers-report-says/2016/01/28/39465050-c542-11e5-9693-933a4d31bcc8_story.html?

Our laws say illegal entry requires arrest. We have told the illegal entry people of this zero tolerance and that they will be separated from their kids if they do this. But they are still coming. So what do we do? If we only had a way to PREVENT these people from entering so that we dont have to arrest them.....maybe a physical barrier....that people with children cant easily get over....like a wall or something?

Or are people with kids just exempt from arrest?

So instead of blame, how can we fix this?

You fix the separation of parents and children by bringing the children back to the parents, and stop separating children from parents.

Pretty simple concept.

Illegal immigrants and illegals by definition.

I have no problem with sending back.

Well, I care how they are sent back.

Mexico and other countries have the responsibility to make their country more appealing to businesses, improve eduction and stop violence.

Why can countries with few resources like Japan do it and not other countries?

So the kids stay in adult jail with the parents then?

Instead of in the safe facilities where they are studying, exercising, playing sports and watching TV?

I like how you act like its that simple, just return them to their parents, without mentioning that their parents are detained in jail for violating our laws. So anyone with kids is released from jail? where do they go?

Sure a lot of complaints and oversimplistic solutions that dont deal in the reality of the situation.

By the way, who is paying the costs of these 2000 children who have to be housed over the last 6 weeks? Their parents, who are responsible for them being there despite being told not to illegally come and bring their kids.

Or the US taxpayers? (hint, its US taxpayers, citizens of our country). At what point in the near future does the cost of these facilities, food, security, etc match what it would cost for the wall?

It’s just a ploy to get a wall, one involving children.

so the parents bringing their children illegally after being told not to are colluding with Trump to help him get his wall? Awesome! I didnt know they were actually in on the whole thing.

Cause you know if they would just stop breaking the law by illegally crossing the border (a) they wouldnt be in jail and (b) their children would be with them. Seems totally preventable on the part of the law breakers.

This whole thing just proves the wall is the right choice. Then we dont have to jail people who dont listen and respect our laws and we dont have to detain their children. No one wants to do either of those. At least they arent being put in cages anymore, like the pictures from 2014 so helpfully shared by liberals.

We just want these people to stop breaking our laws so that we can stop arresting them. The wall would make it harder for these people to make the bad choice to walk across our border, which requires us to arrest them.

Do you have a better option?

The last guy kept them in cages and also turned then over to human traffickers, media and Dems seemed ok with that solution when they were the ones doing it.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/obama-administration-placed-children-with-human-traffickers-report-says/2016/01/28/39465050-c542-11e5-9693-933a4d31bcc8_story.html?

Trump said the Washington Post piles lies on lies. It’s fake news.

Can’t you follow Trump’s example and find something in the National Enquirer to back this up?

So the kids stay in adult jail with the parents then?

You asked the solution. I told you what it was. It's up to you guys to figure out how to implement that.

I like how you act like its that simple, just return them to their parents, without mentioning that their parents are detained in jail for violating our laws.

Oh boo hoo, suddenly you people have to live in the real world, where your black/white definitions don't work the way your leaders scream to you that they will. Do you really feel us to feel sympathy with you that it's not 'that simple' after you have ripped children away from their parents? Maybe if you guys hadn't screwed up so seriously, it wouldn't be so hard to fix.

Do you have a better option?

Yes - not spending $25billion on an ineffective wall that will require either taking Americans' properties away from them, or building the wall so that they are on the other side of it.

So you just want to complain, despite Trump doing exactly what Obama did when no one cared. Except Trump is not putting them in cages and not giving other people's children to human traffickers. Yet you complain without offering a better solution, its up to someone else to fix what you dont like in 2018 that you didnt care about in 2014. Typical.

Reckless: liberals just dont look at illegal immigration as being a "real" crime, so they are just going to tell you that its not the same, to quit making up stuff, or some other nonsense.

So arent all the parents of children murdered by illegal immigrants also separated from their children? permanently.

So you just want to complain

No.

despite Trump doing exactly what Obama did when no one cared.

No.

Yet you complain without offering a better solution

I gave you the solution. You just didn't like it.

And seriously, you guys complaining about complaints without a solution? Did you miss 8 years of whining about health care?

Man, you are seriously off your game. You didnt give me any solution. The parents are in JAIL and will remain there due to breaking the law.

To reunite the children with them what do you propose? If your response is that it is up to me and its my problem to fix, then I do what I think is right (keep the kids safe in a detention facility) and you forfeit your right to judge my decision. I would prefer that the law breakers stop causing the issue by not breaking the law, but they wont do that. So I have to advocate for the next best thing.

You didnt give me any solution.

Yes I did:

You fix the separation of parents and children by bringing the children back to the parents, and stop separating children from parents.

Pretty simple concept.

If you guys are too inept to do something that was already done previously, don't wine to us about it. You'll get zero sympathy.

If illegal alien families desire to stay together they need to return to their home countries, get in line and go through the proper administrative channels to come here legally.

Problem solved.

Ok so you are for putting the children in adult jail with their currently incarcerated parents. Good luck selling that one.

If illegal alien families desire to stay together they need to return to their home countries, get in line and go through the proper administrative channels to come here legally.

Problem solved.

It most definitely would solve the problem.

That said, it's probably not going to happen. Which leaves you guys with a PR nightmare.

Well Strangerland, you are usually pretty reasonable, but I would not support sending children to jail to be with their parents. I think foster parents would be more appropriate until they can be deported.

I have never claimed once that children should be jailed with their parents.

Ok so you are for putting the children in adult jail with their currently incarcerated parents.

No.

Build an economic free zone at places along the border. Build factories, schools, housing. Keep the immigrant famines together. 20% of the parents wages can be taken to fund this. They can’t travel more tha 50km from their settlement, but family members in USA could visit. Then after 3 years of living, working, learning, and paying income tax, give them a USA passport and hope them a great future with their assimilation. With work experience they can get better paid jobs. Children can go on to university. American companies can profit from big factories producing products in America.

Or...smash up families have millions living illegal lives doing anything for the next buck.

Don’t break the law and you don’t have to worry about families being broken up. Sad thing is, the Democrats don’t want to make a compromise down the middle and as long as they don’t, the GOP won’t budge either, so the Dems should for once try not to be selfish, just a bit, I know it’s hard for them, it’s in their DNA, but they could help change this dilemma .

The Good Cop , Bad Cop act is going to fool no one but a few of their diehard cult members.

Melana, shedding crocodile tears, and releasing statements(probably plagiarized ) does nothing to help the innocent children forcibly separated from their parents.

Melana, shedding crocodile tears, and releasing statements(probably plagiarized ) does nothing to help the innocent children forcibly separated from their parents.

Oh really?, I don’t see any of the self-righteous Hollywood idiotic elite go out of their way to do everything but they possibly can to help ease the pain and suffering of these kids, where is Stephen Colbert, where is Leonardo DiCaprio, where is Cher, where is Chelsea Handler. These are the real people that are shedding crocodile tears, they talk so much BS but can’t back it up with all their money and even with all the power and influence they have, they have no will or desire to ever want to, they are all just a bunch of snobbish liberal elite hypocrites

Blacklabel: "So you just want to complain, despite Trump doing exactly what Obama did when no one cared."

Sorry, bud, but it wasn't Obama who repealed DACA, then started blaming the Dems for the results, while actually then saying it's in the bible to do what you then complain about! You guys have gone way off the deep end and done so many 180s you've actually drilled a whole in the ground with all the spinning.

Liberals dont seem to have a problem trying to separate Donald Trump from HIS child.

For something that isnt even a crime. Yet people who were caught in actual criminal activity, all that matters is that they get to be with their children, no matter what? hmmmm

Nothing related to DACA whatsoever. These are people who are illegally entering the country who are not covered by that program.

I don’t see any of the self-righteous Hollywood idiotic elite go out of their way to do everything but they possibly can to help ease the pain and suffering of these kids

Senators have been turned away from immigration facilities or being given very limited access, what do you think Hollywood can do?

If making plagiarized speeches is your idea of action, then its better Hollywood does not take any 'action'.

Happy fathers day to all the dads of the 2000 kids who were taken from them .

You have support from all around the world.

Happy fathers day to all the dads of the 2000 kids who were taken from them .

You have support from all around the world.

Every prison institution and mental faciality has fathers who haven’t seen their kids. But yeah, I wish them a happy Father’s Day.

Sorry, bud, but it wasn't Obama who repealed DACA,

But you didn’t complain when Obama held children in confinement back in 2014 which most of the videos are from. So you’re outraged about that as well? Or how about when former AG Kamilla Harris did the same thing in California? Did you think she was equally cruel.

then started blaming the Dems for the results,

So why won’t Schumer allow his fellow Democrats work with the GOP to come up with a comprehensive immigration bill?

while actually then saying it's in the bible to do what you then complain about! You guys have gone way off the deep end and done so many 180s you've actually drilled a whole in the ground with all the spinning.

We feel the same about the left and their progress socialist agendas, don’t break the law and you don’t have to worry about being separated, now the left is once again moaning because Sessions is enforcing the law that is already on the books? Good on him.

bass4funkToday  03:31 pm JST

Don’t break the law and you don’t have to worry about families being broken up.

The next time you get a speeding ticket, I assume you won't complain when your children are taken from you.

Because that's the level of the crime we're talking about. The US Constitution forbids cruel and unusual punishment. Stealing someone's children to deter a misdemeanor crime is without question both cruel and unusual. Also fascist.

See? Illegal immigration to liberals is no more serious than a speeding ticket.

The next time you get a speeding ticket, I assume you won't complain when your children are taken from you.

That won’t happen, so we don’t need to entertain that thought, also, I’m a legal citizen and would never send my kids to any country without me.

Because that's the level of the crime we're talking about.

Yes, I do have empathy for the kids, but I do blame the parents for making the situation, they made the conscious choice to send their kids, no one forced them. You break the law, you pay the price, simple as that.

The US Constitution forbids cruel and unusual punishment.

The US is also a sovereign nation and we have laws on the books that say if you illegally enter the country without proper documentation, you will be held, processed and either incarcerated or you will be deported or even pay a hefty fine. Again, did you object as well when this was going on widespread under Obama?

Stealing someone's children to deter a misdemeanor crime is without question both cruel and unusual. Also fascist.

Then don’t break the law, that’s Anarchist.

Then don’t break the law, that’s Anarchist.

A common misconception is that anarchists are all about chaos. It's actually the opposite, anarcho syndicalism seeks order and co-operation. It takes the power from the government and big business and allows the workers to self govern.

Most governments, be the authoritarian or neo-liberal are terrified that the people will abolish the need for government which is why they are happy to promote myths about anarchism.

The immigrants are not anarchist but they are being abused in a similar fashion to the way anarchists were treated in nazi germany. And we all know how that turned out.

See also the internment of actual US citizens during the Pacific War.

 Stealing someone's children to deter a misdemeanor crime is without question both cruel and unusual. Also fascist.

And it is also not at all uncommon in the USA. Check it out.

The answer is SIMPLE send the ILLEGAL PARENT back with them. They only vote for the DEVILS party anyway. GO TRUMP GO.

BlacklabelToday  05:56 pm JST

See? Illegal immigration to liberals is no more serious than a speeding ticket.

Illegal immigration is no more serious than a speeding ticket according to the law.

bass4funkToday  06:22 pm JST

Again, did you object as well when this was going on widespread under Obama?

"This" did not happen under Obama. The only thing worse than the creeping fascism on display here is that so many cowards are trying to hide Trump's responsibility for it.

A common misconception is that anarchists are all about chaos.

As if the border is a night at the Roxy.

It's actually the opposite, anarcho syndicalism seeks order and co-operation.

And they do the exact opposite.

It takes the power from the government and big business and allows the workers to self govern. 

Annoying scum is what they are.

Most governments, be the authoritarian or neo-liberal are terrified that the people will abolish the need for government which is why they are happy to promote myths about anarchism. 

I think that statement about them is a myth.

The immigrants are not anarchist but they are being abused in a similar fashion to the way anarchists were treated in nazi germany. And we all know how that turned out.

Yes, but they broke the law, so No exception, you break the law and you pay for it, it’s that simple.

Illegal immigration is no more serious than a speeding ticket according to the law.

Really? One is a civil fine, the other is a federal criminal offence carrying a maximum prison sentence of 2 years. Can you explain exactly how they are equal?

Illegal immigration is no more serious than a speeding ticket according to the law.

By liberal standards? Oh, boy....

"This" did not happen under Obama.

But this did.....

https://youtu.be/bz_iEQSLU78

The only thing worse than the creeping fascism on display here is that so many cowards are trying to hide Trump's responsibility for it.

And the left for hiding behind Schumer’s unwillingness to vote on a proper immigration bill with the GOP because they won’t move an inch without funding for the wall, end chain migration and the visa lottery program.

Havent heard of going to jail for 2 years for speeding. Here you go, 8 US Code 1325:

(a)Improper time or place; avoidance of examination or inspection; misrepresentation and concealment of factsAny alien who (1) enters or attempts to enter the United States at any time or place other than as designated by immigration officers, or (2) eludes examination or inspection by immigration officers, or (3) attempts to enter or obtains entry to the United States by a willfully false or misleading representation or the willful concealment of a material fact, shall, for the first commission of any such offense, be fined under title 18 or imprisoned not more than 6 months, or both, and, for a subsequent commission of any such offense, be fined under title 18, or imprisoned not more than 2 years, or both

and....Civil penalties under this subsection are in addition to, and not in lieu of, any criminal or other civil penalties that may be imposed.

If you have a proper visa to enter or emigrate into the US, you WON’T be separated from ur children.

If if the illegals are concerned about the separations, perhaps they should’ve thought about that before they crossed the border. It’s that simple.

If if the illegals are concerned about the separations, perhaps they should’ve thought about that before they crossed the border. It’s that simple.

If the Republicans are concerned about votes, perhaps they should have thought of that before separating children from their parents. It's that simple.

If the Republicans are concerned about votes, perhaps they should have thought of that before separating children from their parents. It's that simple.

They are and very much so, that’s why they are enforcing the laws and for once I am ecstatic about it, because for most of my life, our borders have been revolving doors. I’m not a big fan of Sessions, but on this, he has proven to be tough in enforcing the law, no exceptions.

Laura Bush, another Republican First Lady, is also very critical of this policy, calling it cruel and immoral and reminiscent of the detention of Jspanese-Americans during WWII.

I really wouldn’t quote Bush as the typical quintessential conservative American, he’s more like a purple conservative light and he wasn’t the closed borders type of President either, so I’m not surprised by Mrs. Bush’s comments.

Didnt care about these kids from 2009-2014.

As far as I can tell, separating kids from their parents is new to the Trump administration, and has not been done before.

As far as I can tell, separating kids from their parents is new to the Trump administration, and has not been done before

Yeah, it has.

https://www.vox.com/cards/child-migrant-crisis-unaccompanied-alien-children-rio-grande-valley-obama-immigration/why-is-the-us-border-in-crisis-because-of-central-american-migrants

"An official told The Hill that he (Trump) would, in fact, back either of the GOP immigration bills expected to receive votes next week. 

Democrats aren't being included in the drafting of the bill. Sen. Dick Durbin (D-Ill.) said Friday the measure wouldn't receive one vote from his party when taken to the floor."

So if you vote against the bill to fix this issue, you shouldnt be able to protest it. But hypocrisy never bothered Dems, thats one of their strong points.

Bass: So why won’t Schumer allow his fellow Democrats work with the GOP to come up with a comprehensive immigration bill?

Dems have had quite a few immigration bills, and even more that have been brought by bipartisan committees of both Democrats and Republicans. The GOP leadership has killed all of them to placate the far right members.

For example, if a father and mother rob a bank with the kid in the car and are arrested. Does the family stay together?

No. But in immigration court they are kept together as a family or released as a family until a decision has been made about their status. Trump changed that when he decided to charge everyone with a crime, at which point they go to a different court (with bank robbers) and their kids are taken from them.

It was designed that way by Trump in order to take kids away. He thinks he can get a better immigration deal if he does this to the kids.

Bass:  Again, did you object as well when this was going on widespread under Obama?

Much different situation.

There was a temporary mass influx of border crossings so the US had to build temporary shelters to hold them. In some cases, children are not accompanied by a parent, so there children are held while they find a friend or relative. But since it’s still under immigration law, there are different rules, like holding them for a max of 72 hours. It was not a rule made up by Obama to separate kids from parents.

Make no mistake about this situation, though. It was a planned effort to charge the border crossers in a different way for the specific purpose of separating them from their kids. Trump and Miller thought if they could threaten to traumatize children, fewer people would enter the US.

Trump is using the kids as bargaining chips

But kids should never be used as bargaining chips

Even the Evangelical preachers, Trump supporters, don't support him on this

And now Melania too

Just go back to the way it was before - keep families together how ever it was before

A law should not be the end-all such that morality serves the law

It should be the other way around - a law is a service under morality

There are about 2.3 million visa overstayers. A wall wall won't prevent overstayers.

And they should all be deported and never allowed back.

If they have children born in the USA, the children should go with their family and can return, if they like, to the USA as adults. Until we update the Constitution to remove the loophole for children born to two parents in the country illegally,

Dems have had quite a few immigration bills, and even more that have been brought by bipartisan committees of both Democrats and Republicans. The GOP leadership has killed all of them to placate the far right members.

Yes, because they didn’t include full funding for the wall, an end to chain migration and the visa lottery program, so Trump went a step further to show his generosity and to test them at the same time angering his base by legalizing almost 2 million illegals and the Dems still refused, which means, the Dems could care less about making a deal, but want to use the immigration issue for the midterms, how sneaky can you? And I suspect they’ll add the race card to the issue as well, I mean, why not, right?

No. But in immigration court they are kept together as a family or released as a family until a decision has been made about their status. Trump changed that when he decided to charge everyone with a crime, at which point they go to a different court (with bank robbers) and their kids are taken from them.

Yes, that’s right and the interesting thing is, these laws were already on the books, it’s just that now they’re finally enforcing them, great,

It was designed that way by Trump in order to take kids away. He thinks he can get a better immigration deal if he does this to the kids.

No, this is strictly a deterrent, you don’t want to be separated from your kids, don’t break the law, even my little kids understand that, they screw up, they’re going to pay, big time, so my kids are always careful not to break my house rules. Rules are there for a reason and not to cherry pick what gets enforced and what doesn’t, that’s insane.

There was a temporary mass influx of border crossings so the US had to build temporary shelters to hold them. In some cases, children are not accompanied by a parent, so there children are held while they find a friend or relative. But since it’s still under immigration law, there are different rules, like holding them for a max of 72 hours. It was not a rule made up by Obama to separate kids from parents.

Oh, don’t give me that, the Obama administration separated families as well and there wasn’t any outcry like now and liberals trying to play semantics with this won’t roll, separation is separation, come on now.

Make no mistake about this situation, though. It was a planned effort to charge the border crossers in a different way for the specific purpose of separating them from their kids. Trump and Miller thought if they could threaten to traumatize children, fewer people would enter the US.

No, it’s not about the kids, that nutty rant libs try to use, no one feels good about this, Obama should and just like with the Iran deal not try to use his executive powers to push DACA through, he kicked that can down the road because once again he knew congress wasn’t going to vote on know the Dems would do nothing to stop the flood of illegals entering into the country. The thing is, liberals are so used to breaking the law, they think in this situation, we should once again break the law, turn our heads and just allow more and more illegals in. That’s not how it works anymore, thankfully.

FLOTUS Melania and former FLOTUS Barbara Bush are on the same train. Bush critical of the separation. Trump tweets the blame onto the democrats. Zero humanity.

So what? The WH needs to hold the line or have the Democrats work on a comprehensive immigration bill like the Goodlatte Bill.

The bill includes the measures the White House has insisted be in any immigration bill, plus some more: It abolishes the extended-family chain migration categories and the visa lottery, authorizes wall funding and extra border agents, cracks down on sanctuary cities and asylum abuse, and mandates E-Verify. It also would essentially codify DACA for its current beneficiaries, rather than open a whole new can of worms for 2 or 3 million “DACA-eligible” people, as all other proposals would do.

Let’s see how much the Dems care about the DACA kids.

I think you have to be a special kind of piece of crap to support traumatizing kids in order to get some political legislation through.

Looks like Trump fans have been given some distraction points. The Obama situation is a blatant mischaracterization. The "rule of law" comments are thrown out without any context of Trump changing how the law is applied. And Trump is doing his part by lying about who is to blame.

But again....make zero mistakes about it. Trump and Miller specifically designed this situation in hopes that traumatizing children would help with their political agenda.

If you support that, then shame on you.

I think you have to be a special kind of piece of crap to support traumatizing kids in order to get some political legislation through.

Right back at the left, I feel the same as well.

Looks like Trump fans have been given some distraction points. The Obama situation is a blatant mischaracterization.

Oh no, heeeeeere we go. ROFL!

The "rule of law" comments are thrown out without any context of Trump changing how the law is applied. And Trump is doing his part by lying about who is to blame.

Actually, Trump is spot on when he tells it like it is when it comes to who started to move the goal post. The left could change this, just get rid of the visa lottery, chain migration and fund the wall and he will legalize a few thousand illegals, not a hard thing to do. Yeah, it hurts their largest voting block, but for now, they need to meet in the middle. “Operation Streamline”

But again....make zero mistakes about it. Trump and Miller specifically designed this situation in hopes that traumatizing children would help with their political agenda.

Don’t send you kids, then you don’t have to worry about being separated for your kids, Obama did it, Trump took a page from his book, that means Trump is giving Obama props for once, you guys should be elated.

If you support that, then shame on you.

If you don’t support it then shame on you.

Just say that you support traumatizing kids to get your legislation passed.

The end.

Just say that you support traumatizing kids to get your legislation passed. 

Just say say you support illegals breaking our sovereign laws and think it’s perfectly ok for them defying them or being enforced.

The end.

Great, so you support traumatizing children to get your legislation passed, and I support no immigration laws ever being enforced. It's settled.

Like I said in the other thread, this situation is going to get worse. I think this is just the beginning. If Trump doesn't get his wall, he will think of even worse things to do with kids.

Max Eisenhardt aka Erik (Magnus) Lehnsherr, otherwise known by the soubriquet "Magneto" was right!: "ordinary" people, (like the coffee-guzzling Nazi soldiers in Auschwitz), who separate children from their parents can hardly be called "evolved". The unethical Trump policy on immigration is just plain wrong and is simply untenable since the growing furor around the world will soon force the US government to cry uncle. Melania, as an erstwhile undocumented alien, should, if she is sincere, feel duty-bound to weigh in and, like Lysistrata, grab him by his oranges.

As if the border is a night at the Roxy.

It's ok to admit you don't comprehend the ideology or its goals.

And they do the exact opposite.

Again, a common misconception. But to wrest control away from the government, a few feathers have to be ruffled.

Annoying scum is what they are.

Not surprised you see workers and ordinary people as scum. But back to the original point, the immigrant families are not anarchist.

Cages, for cripes sake

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-44518942

The American Academy of Pediatrics warned last week that "highly stressful experiences, including family separation, can cause irreparable harm to lifelong development by disrupting a child's brain architecture".

Odd that the family-friendly conservatives can defend this monstrous situation.

The use of religion to justify these unspeakable acts is all too familiar

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/jun/18/trump-american-caliphate-democracy-arab-world

The words Sessions quoted were used in the 1840s and 50s to justify slavery. When abolitionists argued that slavery was cruel, and that separating families was a violation of religious ethics, they were met with the argument of religious compliance with the law. John Fea, a history professor at Messiah College in Pennsylvania, told the Washington Post: “Whenever Romans 13 was used in the 18th and 19th century – and Sessions seems to be doing the same thing, so in this sense there is some continuity – it’s a way of manipulating the scriptures to justify your own political agenda.”

How can decent people stand by and let this happen?

I agree with Trump and the First Lady. It’s time that illegal immigrants stop breaking the law and forcing the US to separate innocent children from their law breaking parents. Crime doesn’t pay and it only ends up hurting your kids. Just ask the millions of Americans in prison today who are also separated from their parents.

Great, so you support traumatizing children to get your legislation passed, and I support no immigration laws ever being enforced. It's settled.

Well, those are your words, not mine, but I feel if it drives home into the parents head, they should not be doing this and it discourages them, then it is a good thing.

Like I said in the other thread, this situation is going to get worse.

So why aren't the Democrats getting their butts back into Washington instead of getting on TV flapping their jaws and calling up their Republican colleagues to fix this situation?

I think this is just the beginning. If Trump doesn't get his wall, he will think of even worse things to do with kids.

No, he doesn't need to, this is having the exact desired result it is supposed to have. Democrats, get to work and to the parents of these kids, if you don't want to get separated from your kids, don't break the law. If I break the law, rest assured, I'll be taken away from my kids as well. They shouldn't get special treatment.

It's ok to admit you don't comprehend the ideology or its goals.

I'm an American from California, I know it all too well. But thank you anyway. Lol.

Again, a common misconception. But to wrest control away from the government, a few feathers have to be ruffled.

Wow, so then you shouldn't get upset at these idiot White Supremest's because they are doing the exact same thing.

Not surprised you see workers and ordinary people as scum.

No, they are scum, if you are proud of what you do and what you are and you think your actions are justified, you don't need to wear a mask which is illegal anyway, you don't smash property like an out of control lunatic fascist. Working people are the people that voted for Trump in the fly over States that the Democrats forgot like Wisconsin, Pennsylvania and Michigan.

But back to the original point, the immigrant families are not anarchist.

No, they just broke the law, the anarchists are the ones that are screaming on TV but could give a darn about these people. Where are the Hollyweird elites? Where is Al Sharpton? Oh, these are not Black people, so No money in it for him, how about DeNiro? Clooney? Hello??

Time to wake up, Melania. Now the US is one of those countries whose authorities abducts children, lose track of thousands of them, and couldn't care less.... That puts the them in the same league as the Kims of North Korea or the Junta in Argentine.

I’ve never seen anything like this before. I’ve never seen a government official make specific changes to specifically harm children. Even when the GOP takes healthcare away from children they don’t sit down with that goal in mind and keep working to make sure it happens.

But that’s what they did he. The created a way to traumatize the children specifically.

In the US, including your minor children in a criminal enterprise is considered, and has been prosecuted as, child abuse. Dragging your kids through who know what, exposing them to all the dangers of the road and including them in a criminal enterprise that results in your arrest and subsequent detention, is child abuse.

Think of all the trauma that these kids have already been put through by their parents, maybe a US juvenile detention center with clean beds, access to personal hygiene facilities, with plentiful food and social services attention is just the kind of safe space these kids need right now.

Separating kids from their parents is a bad thing, but not always. Sometimes it's in the best interests of the kids.

"Sometimes truth transcends party," Obama said in a tweet responding to Bush, who was sharing her op-ed for the Washington Post

she’s entitled to her personal opinion.

Former first lady Laura Bush blasted the temporary separation of illegal immigrant families as “cruel” and “immoral.” She added that it is “eerily reminiscent of the Japanese American internment camps of World War II.”

She’s equally entitled to her personal opinion.

I’ve never seen anything like this before. I’ve never seen a government official make specific changes to specifically harm children.

But I’ve seen a very irresponsible government allowing illegals to come in and refuse to seal our borders and protect its citizens. Breaks my heart.

Even when the GOP takes healthcare away from children they don’t sit down with that goal in mind and keep working to make sure it happens.

But that’s what they did he. The created a way to traumatize the children specifically.

No, they just enforced the laws that were already on the books. This should hopefully deter parents from sending their kids to a certain unknown. If you don’t want to lose your child or be separated, don’t break our laws.

Separating kids from their parents is a bad thing, but not always. Sometimes it's in the best interests of the kids.

Sometimes it is. Not this time though. This time they are being separated from their parents to prove a political point, not in the best interests of the children. And the idea that bringing their kids to America is abuse is just silly.