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Migrant caravan members reject offer to stay in Mexico

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Now it is obvious, if it wasn't before, that these folks aren't refugees seeking asylum. They turn down a perfectly good offer to stay in the nearest safe country (Mexico) to pursue economic betterment.

None should be allowed entry into the US, if they even get that far.

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According to UN rules, they lose refugee status if they reject an offer of safe haven in the first country they flee too. So, President Trump will be doing the right thing if refuses entry to every man, woman, and child in that mob.

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There you have it... entitlement. Now if they did things the right way and submitted the paperwork required before-hand, they wouldn't have been seen as a bunch of people trying to rush the US border illegally.

Sorry, but not sorry for this kind of mental mind set.

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The welfare available to the Honduran Horde in Mexico can not compete with the US Free Stuff.

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I can’t wait to watch this unfold. Excited :))

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"Our goal is not to remain in Mexico," Sosa said. "Our goal is to make it to the (U.S.)"

Of course! Why remain in Mexico when life in Trump's USA would be soooooo much better?

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Now if they did things the right way and submitted the paperwork required before-hand, they wouldn't have been seen as a bunch of people trying to rush the US border illegally.

Huh? They aren't even here yet. You can arrive at the border and claim asylum. They determine if you get in or not.

I'm really confused at the source of Republican anger on this issue.

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Super, it's not just Republican anger, it's American anger.

Voters Say Government Should Stop Hondurans At the Border

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/current_events/immigration/october_2018/voters_say_government_should_stop_hondurans_at_the_border

No, wait, Rasmussen polls can't be right... no wait, they correctly predicted Trump's election victory!

Super, I'm afraid you're going to continue to be confused until you realize that liberalism bites the big one.

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Thank you Mexico.

It is now proven that the people who rejected the offer of asylum from Mexico are NOT asylum seekers. They are economic immigrants.

If they do lie their way into the USA, relocate them to Nome. I hear December there is beautiful.

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"Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free"... Recognize those words? Well, do you mean them or don't you??

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mukashiyokatta: "Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free"... Recognize those words? Well, do you mean them or don't you??

You take that passage from an inscription on the Statute of Liberty as law and a call for open borders? That’s an overly simplistic view of things don’t you think?

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mukashiyokatta: "Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free"... Recognize those words? Well, do you mean them or don't you??

You take that passage from an inscription on the Statute of Liberty as law and a call for open borders? That’s an overly simplistic view of things don’t you think?

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@cla68

According to UN rules, they lose refugee status if they reject an offer of safe haven in the first country they flee too.

Just to clarify, those aren't actually the rules despite how reasonable it sounds. That is what is so crazy about the current system. At present there is absolutely no obligation in the UN refugee convention to seek asylum in the first safe country you enter. You can keep asylum shopping until you reach your preferred country and it cannot be held against you.

What you might be thinking about are the EU Dublin regulations which require asylum seekers to apply in the first EU country they enter. This makes sense but the UN actually believes that the EU is not abiding by the convention when it enforces its own regulations. In my opinion the whole UN convention needs to be scrapped and rewritten.

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Interesting info, M3. Thanks for posting.

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The first sentence in Serrano’s link:

“Voters agree with President Trump’s efforts to stop the horde of Hondurans marching through Mexico from entering the United States illegally.”

Sounds good.

But what are you angry about?

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"Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free"... Recognize those words? Well, do you mean them or don't you??

Words put on a statue built in the same decade the U.S. all but excluded Asian immigration to the country for nearly a century. Something tells me the words weren't government policy.

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But what are you angry about?

I'm more disappointed than angry.

Someone knocks on your door and demands to be let inside without invitation. There is an invitation process - at the US embassy in their country.

Then when 75% of them are found to be dishonest about their backgrounds and turned away at the door, those people will hop over our back fence, entering the country illegally, and try to disappear inside.

The people who requested asylum at the front door are let in, but have no way to support themselves legally before the first hearing in 60-90 days. During this time, working inside the USA is illegal. How will they live? Charities will probably help most, but some will "find" other methods and never show up for their asylum hearings.

Seeing people jumping a border fence from Mexico into the USA does make me angry. Other than arresting them immediately and deporting them to southern Mexico, I don't see any viable method to slow it down under the current legal rules. If they are just shipped back over the border, nothing will stop them from jumping the fence in a few days. Perhaps they will get away with it the next time. If being deported 2 miles inside Mexico is the only repercussion, that isn't much of a deterrent.

The temporary worker program and legal immigration system for the USA is broken. These issues started in the 1980s and our politicians didn't sufficiently address the issues. A small problem grows into a huge problem after decades of neglect. Every American shares in this blame for allowing our politicians since the 1990s to ignore it. America has a leaky roof. Ignoring it will never make it better.

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