Minutes after Trump shooting, misinformation started flying

Minutes after Trump shooting, misinformation started flying

Sadly, a very predictable headline.

Pick a side, choose your conspiracy theory accordingly.

The Sea of Misinformation had already begun even before a shot was taken. Sign of the times 24/7.

Minutes after Trump shooting, misinformation started flying

Sure did. And 100% of it was on view right here in the comment sections of JapanToday.

Glass fragments, not bullets? The Internet overflows with conspiracy theories after a shooting at a Trump rally

Synopsis

These baseless theories, ranging from speculations about the shooter's identity to claims that the incident was staged, quickly gained traction on social media platforms, amassing millions of views. Several reports also suggested that law enforcement officials indicated Trump was not hit by a bullet but by glass shards or fragments.

https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/international/world-news/glass-fragments-not-bullets-internet-overflows-with-conspiracy-theories-after-shooting-at-trump-rally/articleshow/111730913.cms?utm_source=contentofinterest&utm_medium=text&utm_campaign=cppst

Here sare the facts:

Shooter: Thomas Crooks

1) Comes from an affluent family and lived in a predominately subruban neighborhood

donated $15 when he was 17 years old

2) Wqs teased in high school for wearing Hunter gear to class

3) Was rejected from the rifle club in high school

4) Had his father's gun and also explosives

5) Has been a registered Republican since adulthood

6) His attempt to shoot Trump mostly helps Trump and the Republicans

I believe 99.9% of the people of American are more than capable to filter out the crazy bonkers conspiracy theories

That’s optimistic for any country.

There are grifters on YouTube and the like selling packages including stolen elections, climate change a hoax, proxy wars etc. You can sell this lot anything.

They make up more than 0.1% in any country.

Considering the constant disinformation on the MSM, we shouldn't be surprised with the people's wild speculation.

I'm so tired of mainstream media. This article makes no sense.

When you view and hear on the spot witnesses telling security and pointing out look there a bloke on the roof what look like a rifle. Not one but many warning security and security do nothing to prevent it. One would assume the fix was on. They must of been the same security guarding Epstein.

itsonlyrocknroll

I believe 99.9% of the people of American are more than capable to filter out the crazy bonkers conspiracy theories.

I'd put it closer to 60%

This is ridiculous, this article is so far off from reality! It is nothing like what is happening in America.

Seems JT puts their own spin on world events.

"'I'm not supposed to be here': Shocked Donald Trump says the chances of him cheating death were 1-in-1,000 after he turned his head and dodged assassin's bullet 'by 1/8th of an inch'... and why he wanted to carry on speaking after being shot."

The strong divisions between the Democrats and Republicans started when Obama became president. Escalated when Trump became president and much deeper divisions when he lost his elections leading to Jan 6.

The US needs a president who can heal those divisions and it ain't Trump or Biden so at least four more years before someone can appear.

I believe 99.9% of the people of American are more than capable to filter out the crazy bonkers conspiracy theories

I saw one poll recording 10% of Americans believing the Earth is flat. Similar numbers for faked moon landing and vaccines containing microchips.

The US is of course not alone in having these people.

Impossible to stage this shot and then supposedly stage the iconic photo with Trump defiantly raising his fist against the forces of hate with the flag waving gallantly in the background

A gallant flag, eh?

this article is just traditional media trying to denigrate social media

Social media does deserve to be denigrated for the most part.

Spammers, sock puppets, trolls, conspiracy theorists etc. Blizzards of trash on stories like this.

Calling people fascists, dictators, tyrants and labelling them as Hitler, implying that democracy will end unless a certain someone is 'stopped'... using loaded terminology like bullseye.

Let's not pretend this hasn't been going on for some time.

Calling people fascists, dictators, tyrants and labelling them as Hitler, implying that democracy will end unless a certain someone is 'stopped'... using loaded terminology like bullseye.

Let's not pretend this hasn't been going on for some time.

Unusually, you are correct here.

I remember Obama being called a dictator, a communist, a closet Islamist, a man with a deep seated hatred of the US inspired by an anti-colonialist mindset, a terrorist sympathizer and the actual anti-Christ. He was sadly bombarded with racist filth when he joined Twitter. There was also the birtherism conspiracy trash.

You are right. It has been going on for some time.

A lone wolf with mental problems and easy access to firearms, nothing more.

Since when are not chatting over a beer to fight and women stop gossiping ?

Social media has only helped all people to have access like the chosen elite only before.

Misinformation is human to start with. If one is gullible, one will remain gullible.

I never have taken any new information as cast in stone, since I am open-minded and a scientist. Respect people's opinions, as long as they are not hurting anyone.

I'm so tired of mainstream media. This article makes no sense.

Exactly. They went from a few hours reporting the actual event to making everything a right wing conspiracy theory and/or victim blaming.

MAGA is at the forefront, from the top to the bottom, of the radical rhetoric. 

When they start burning down buildings, rioting and looting, and physically go after people then you have a case

Even never-Trump Republicans and neo-liberals like Biden become 'far-left, radical, socialist, Marxist'. 

Their policies are without a doubt.

The group Crooks donated to is the most mainstream, liberal Dem PAC. 

For you, it might be mainstream, but historically, they’re far from being mainstream on any level

MAGA wants to spread disinfo like he supported ANTIFA and the Internationale. 

We haven’t been, and if there is this information, it is only because of the information that we are allowed to get so if you’re limited access to any information, you are going to come up with your own theories, thus the word: conspiracy theories

MAGA mega donors are pushing a corporatist authoritarian agenda though

No, we are pushing an American first agenda all the way!

targeting people like judges their wives their children and even jurors, so much so that gags order had to be imposed to stop the violent rhetoric. yes that was Donald Trump

Honestly, the left seem to forget they always leave thousands of video footprints behind, I’m not saying that the right doesn’t make threats every now and then, because they do, but the left is completely off the charts and have been for many years now, sad thing is they’re not letting up, and they’re making themselves as a party so toxic, the more they continue to do this the more they’re going to lose votes.

https://x.com/libsoftiktok/status/1812325538620420349?s=46&t=YGWP_lcRZjddiWlx4QxURQ

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/supreme-court/man-gun-arrested-justice-kavanaughs-residence-rcna32535

https://www.yahoo.com/news/protesters-descend-amy-coney-barrett-015809191.html

Banthu

Bullied, vilified, impeached, convicted, imprisoned and shot at.

Trump an elite rich-kid, plays the victim so well.

Finally, he is actually a true victim of a horrendous act of violence, which I vigorously condemn.

But the rest? Nah, he isn't the victim. He has rightfully been impeached, indicted and found guilty. Consequences of his own misdeeds.

to the most radical left conspiracy so-called think tanks and claim to be a Republican

MAGA is at the forefront, from the top to the bottom, of the radical rhetoric.

Even never-Trump Republicans and neo-liberals like Biden become 'far-left, radical, socialist, Marxist'.

The group Crooks donated to is the most mainstream, liberal Dem PAC.

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/10/30/democrats-actblue-fundrasing-elections-433698

MAGA wants to spread disinfo like he supported ANTIFA and the Internationale.

MAGA mega donors are pushing a corporatist authoritarian agenda though.

Here sare the facts:

"the" facts?

"some" facts would be more accurate, no?

I remember Obama being called a dictator, a communist, a closet Islamist, a man with a deep seated hatred of the US inspired by an anti-colonialist mindset, a terrorist sympathizer and the actual anti-Christ. He was sadly bombarded with racist filth when he joined Twitter. There was also the birtherism conspiracy trash.

Obama is irrelevant to the conversation about this shooting, just another attempt by the anti Trump crowd to divert and spin

Not really your place to tell me what’s relevant or not. Cheers anyway.

It's going to be some time before we know exactly what happened

Yes. Best not jump the gun. I can remember the day after the last Presidential election when some spammers got hysterical and claimed ‘the walls were closing in on Biden’ after believing conspiracy theories surrounding election fraud.

Best not jump the gun with so much disinformation about as we read from this article.

Many talking about MSM misinformation.

Fair enough.

Any links to better sources?

Don’t be shy. Share the enlightenment.

I believe 99.9% of the people of American are more than capable to filter out the crazy bonkers conspiracy theories.

The misinformation, the wild political gibberish, the "out of this world lizard people" masquerading in high office, honestly caught that yarn yesterday

I believe 99.9% of the people of American are more than capable to filter out the crazy bonkers conspiracy theories.

Itsonlyrocknroll, the frightening thing behind the majority of Trump's cohort is that the KNOW 90% of what he says is BS. It's that they find that a feature, not a bug. The same goes regarding online comments.

Whether it's "trying to get a rise out of the liberals," and anti-social attitude, or drawing clicks to monetize a page, the right wing creates their own vacuum chamber that they know is false but enjoy anyway. It's kinda like they're visiting Disneyland, day in and day out.

The problem with this is that what might have started as sheer rhetoric has a tendency to become reality. I hope we don't have to see how much of Project 25 becomes a reality.

Obviously, the shooter wanted chaos. He mut not have heard about the book Helter Skelter and other similar plans that only show us there are sick minds in this world.

In all the speculation and conjecture, others were trying to exploit the event financially. On X on Sunday morning, an account named Proud Patriots urged Trump supporters to purchase their assassination-attempt themed merchandise.

“First they jail him, now they try to end him,” reads the ad for the commemorative Trump Assassination Attempt Trading Card. “Stand Strong & Show Your Support!”

Can put it next to the Trump mugshot t-shirt, the gold sneakers and the Trump Bible.

Saw and interview with a Trump supporter at a MAGA rally and the reporter got it out of the attendee that he was opposing Biden because of inflation.

The reporter asked him how much he spent on his Trump swag and it turns out it was over $2000.

These people are as bad as those grandmothers swindled out of their life savings by televangelists.

This event should highlight the responsibility of social media to limit the spread of "news" from nonprofessionals.

Just another act in the Trump Circus.......

This week his mouth will be going in all directions, as usual...

What an embarassment he is.......アメリカの恥!

Yes i could be accused of over optimism. ho hum

There are reports circulating that the SS sniper who took out the shooter had the shooter in sights 3 minutes before the shooter attempts the assassination. On the surface, it sounds/looks pretty bogus. This is the sort of thing that is being floated around, and we all know what else floats...

(hint: not "a witch")

It's going to be some time before we know exactly what happened.

The strong divisions between the Democrats and Republicans started when Obama became president. Escalated when Trump became president and much deeper divisions when he lost his elections leading to Jan 6.

Hmmm…let’s just say that the left have become increasingly more disengaged from reality since he’s been on the scene and it’s worsening day by day

The US needs a president who can heal those divisions and it ain't Trump or Biden so at least four more years before someone can appear

No one can do that, in the reason for that is neither side will give in, I would never give into any of the radical policies that the liberals believe in today, there is just no way, I’m a constitutionalist, and conservative, and a traditionalist and an American nationalist, I believe 100% secure borders, I believe in American first policy, I’m a very huge, second amendment supporter etc. and that comes first before anything else or any other country, and liberals are not going to see it my way. so I’m very conservative in most areas, and I just can’t see any liberal coming my way, and I can’t see any president that can bring the two together even after Trump and Biden are gone, we have reached the point of tribalism as much as it gets.

Considering the constant disinformation on the MSM, we shouldn't be surprised with the people's wild speculation

What sources would you recommend?

Shooter: Thomas Crooks

1) Comes from an affluent family and lived in a predominately subruban neighborhood

donated $15 when he was 17 years old

2) Wqs teased in high school for wearing Hunter gear to class

3) Was rejected from the rifle club in high school

4) Had his father's gun and also explosives

5) Has been a registered Republican since adulthood

6) His attempt to shoot Trump mostly helps Trump and the Republicans

There was definitely something deeply wrong with this individual, kissing by his photo, maybe he was rejected maybe, he couldn’t find partner in life, maybe he felt like his surroundings were collapsing around him, maybe he had a problem and felt this solution with the government, maybe he thought Trump was a threat, when you sit there and donate to the most radical left conspiracy so-called think tanks and claim to be a Republican, you know your chain is being pulled, all bells and alarms should ring in unison.

Calling people fascists, dictators, tyrants and labelling them as Hitler, implying that democracy will end unless a certain someone is 'stopped'... using loaded terminology like bullseye.

Let's not pretend this hasn't been going on for some time

Exactly, and that’s the real concern and why the left needs to turn it down a notch it’s not doom and gloom.

I remember Obama being called a dictator, a communist, a closet Islamist, a man with a deep seated hatred of the US inspired by an anti-colonialist mindset, a terrorist sympathizer and the actual anti-Christ. He was sadly bombarded with racist filth when he joined Twitter. There was also the birtherism conspiracy trash. 

You are right. It has been going on for some time

True, but the difference is the have been targeting people like their friends, their families, their coworkers, it’s gotten to the point where some places won’t even hire you if they find out the church from Support, or some places won’t give you service if you are Trump supporter, I have been denied service before because I was supporter, so while it is true, that’s the rhetoric is on both sides, the left are more physically, pushing the altercation envelope, and that is a very bad thing it needs to stop, no one should be denied employment based on their political affiliation, no one should be denied resident dwelling because of their political affiliation.

bass4funk

The strong divisions between the Democrats and Republicans started when Obama became president. Escalated when Trump became president and much deeper divisions when he lost his elections leading to Jan 6.

Hmmm…let’s just say that the left have become increasingly more disengaged from reality since he’s been on the scene and it’s worsening day by day

The changes will not happen while people like you see the opposition have the boogie man in the cupboard.

The US needs a president who can heal those divisions and it ain't Trump or Biden so at least four more years before someone can appear

No one can do that, in the reason for that is neither side will give in, I would never give into any of the radical policies that the liberals believe in today, there is just no way, I’m a constitutionalist, and conservative, and a traditionalist and an American nationalist, I believe 100% secure borders, I believe in American first policy, I’m a very huge, second amendment supporter etc. and that comes first before anything else or any other country, and liberals are not going to see it my way. so I’m very conservative in most areas, and I just can’t see any liberal coming my way, and I can’t see any president that can bring the two together even after Trump and Biden are gone, we have reached the point of tribalism as much as it gets.

The country will remain divided for decades to come and could have another civil war. You cannot mention a single person who could heal the political divide. You are stuck in the swamp of your own making.

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Not irrelevant. Many of our resident trump supporters highlight 2008 as the year they went MAGA. For totally non-race related reasons of course.

MAGA is at the forefront, from the top to the bottom, of the radical rhetoric.

MSN suggested the shooter may have shot him for not being far right enough. There we have it Mr. dagon, your favorite news network calling Trump far right. How do you feel about that?

True, but the difference is the have been targeting people like their friends, their families, their coworkers, it’s gotten to the point where some places won’t even hire you if they find out the church from Support, or some places won’t give you service if you are Trump supporter,

targeting people like judges their wives their children and even jurors, so much so that gags order had to be imposed to stop the violent rhetoric. yes that was Donald Trump

Multiple criminal cases where 45 was invoked during acts of violence.

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/blame-abc-news-finds-17-cases-invoking-trump/story?id=58912889

It was an assassination attempt against former President Trump.

Thankfully, it failed.

Trump turned his head, in what seems to be divine intervention, at just the right time and that saved his life.

Whoever it was that wanted him dead, failed, and he's back stronger than ever.

Bullied, vilified, impeached, convicted, imprisoned and shot at.

They can't stop this man and the movement that supports him.

teleprompter shard cut his ear

staged

Joe is the president of unity