Miss Canada lashes out at Beijing after contest snub

The cult movement Falun Gong became politicized to such an extent that their gatherings seriously alarmed the Chinese government. I am not surprised that she is unwelcome in China.Even her father warned her. She needs to learn when to keep it zipped.

If she had been able to fly into China, she might've not been able to fly out.

She might consider herself lucky.

Well this is what happens when you hold a pageant in a totalitarian dictatorship.

And, as if by magic japain's biggest detractor (Canadian), disappears from the radar!

China should have put her in the nick to teach her a lesson in democracy!

Problem is that China has broken set rules as a host country not to discriminate against participants.

The miss world inc. has been pathetically weak about this, and deserves condemnation for not pushing the bit to China.

I only hope like-minded people are selected in the 2022 winter olympic teams and see if the CCP tries that bullsh*t no visa line.

Either open up or stay out of hosting international events.

And, as if by magic japain's biggest detractor (Canadian), disappears from the radar!

You think that Canada is Japan's biggest detractor?!

China may have a woman shortage with them adopted out of the China or aborted for gender. They should welcome any single female.

Triumvere

What about reading my post again, SLOWLY!!!

China may have a woman shortage with them adopted out of the China or aborted for gender. They should welcome any single female.

Yeah but now China change their single child law back to the way it was which makes more people a dime a dozen.

Yeah . . . she's a doll alright . . . should it matter if she's chinese? Maybe japan should loosen some slack for Ariana Miyamoto too. I'm not saying Ariana is the best Miss Japan. But since she was chosen, lets keep out the politics.

Peeping_TomNov. 27, 2015 - 10:22PM JST And, as if by magic japain's biggest detractor (Canadian), disappears from the radar! China should have put her in the nick to teach her a lesson in democracy!

What does this mean?

What about reading my post again, SLOWLY!!!

Well. Lets see.

And, as if by magic japain's biggest detractor (Canadian), disappears from the radar! China should have put her in the nick to teach her a lesson in democracy!

Well. You spelled "Japan" wrong. You want China to arrest "her" - presumably Ms. Anastasia Lin - in order to "teach her a lesson." I'm not really sure why you want this, or what lesson its supposed to teach, "democratic" or otherwise. I'm not sure who you think Japan is Japan's "biggest detractor (Canadian)" is. Lin and her father are the only individuals mentioned in the article... Japan isn't even mentioned. Is "japain" referring to something else?

In short, I have no clue what you are saying.

Ossan

Ain't you tired of being told how democratic China is?

And that Japain is the opposite?

Maybe for some she's not "Canadian" enough, never mind the passport. Yet they feel entitled in Japain, after 2 mns living there.

She's Chinese, therefore let's get back to the main task of badmouthing Japain.

He knows who he is!

Perspective is important. Before the current government came to power, China was horrific wasteland, ravaged by war and visited by famine, rape, disease and every bad thing imaginable. Today, it is the world's 2nd biggest economy with a quickly growing middle class.

Yeah, it's not perfect, but it's making dramatic progress.

What I learned in China is that you are free to do whatever you want, surprisingly. Just like being in any Western city. People are generally friendly and will leave you to do your own thing. When it comes to political expression, however, you need to watch your mouth. The walls have ears. I am not saying this is good, or trying to justify it in any way, just that this is the way it is. If Ms Lin cannot understand that, then she is either thick or stirring things up in a deliberately confrontational way, (the latter, I suspect) and a barred flight is surely the least of her worries. From the Chinese authorities' point of view, they have saved her from deeper chocolate pudding.

I remember back in the early seventies in the USA when I was warned as an exchange student not to take part in anti-war demonstrations. There are certain things that step on the toes of any government. I guess I am not a hero, and maybe she is.

In related news this week, a Taiwanese beauty queen for an Intl pageant in Europe who insisted that her sash on stage and wire photos read "ROC Taiwan" was kicked out of competing due to pressure from communist China who insisted her sash read "Chinese Taipei." The strong willed young woman, 22, refused to give in to China's demand and was booted out. China must pay someday for its thuggery!

"Ain't you tired of being told how democratic China is?"

I can't remember being told how democratic China is - even from Chinese people.

JeffLeeNov. 28, 2015 - 07:17AM JST Perspective is important. Before the current government came to power, China was horrific wasteland, ravaged by war >and visited by famine, rape, disease and every bad thing imaginable. Today, it is the world's 2nd biggest economy with a >quickly growing middle class. Yeah, it's not perfect, but it's making dramatic progress.

Yes I remember when the world welcomed China as a trading partner thinking that raising the standard of living for the Chinese people would create a middle class that would draw the Chinese government closer to democratic ideals. Guess what? Not only have they tightened their authoritarian control, but have pumped their people on "nationalism", built the largest military in Asia and are on a territorial expansion program. The only dramatic progress China is making is in the wrong direction.

@jefflee

Perspective is important. Before the current government came to power, China was horrific wasteland...

Which they then made even worse with the Great Leap 'Forward' and the Cultural Revolution. Thanks to the CCP, China is decades behind where it should be (see ROC)

@nandakadamanda

What I learned in China is that you are free to do whatever you want

You are not though. You're not free to practise Falun Gong, as the article discusses. If you're Tibetan or Uighur you're not free to travel as they won't give you a passport. You're not free to gather and demonstrate (unless the target is Japan). You're not free to use Facebook or read JT (I'm in China now and have to use a VPN to access most sites I use). Last night I was turned away from multiple hotels (in Guizhou) because they're not free to host foreigners - I had to find a hotel with the right licence. You're not free to do whatever you want in China - would you be willing to walk down ChangAnJie with a 'Free Tibet' banner? Obviously not.

"Guess what? Not only have they tightened their authoritarian control"

Can you give examples of how China has 'tightened authoritarian control' since Deng?

Guess what? Not only have they tightened their authoritarian control, but have pumped their people on "nationalism", built the largest military in Asia and are on a territorial expansion program. The only dramatic progress China is making is in the wrong direction.

That's a pretty narrow view of the situation. In other areas China has become much more free and open. Travel to the country and talk to the people if you want an accurate view of China - basing your opinions of what you read in the western media is a sure way to not get it right.

OssanAmerica: "? Not only have they tightened their authoritarian control, but have pumped their people on "nationalism", built the largest military in Asia and are on a territorial expansion program. The only dramatic progress China is making is in the wrong direction."

How's this any different from Japan, save for Japan not having the largest military in the region? The rest is EXACTLY the same, you just pretend one is still a democracy while the other has never purported to be one.

In any case, if China wants to be as stupid as this and block countries from attending that is China's prerogative, but they can't well claim to be open to and holding a "World" event if they do.

"Lashes out"?

Women are so emotion...[rolleyes}

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Why even include China in things like this? It's like including a handicapped baby in a sporting event or something - China's level is just too low

Not sure if anyone's still checking this thread, as I've been unable to access JT here in China where Big Brother controls the internet! But anyway:

@jimizo

Can you give examples of how China has 'tightened authoritarian control' since Deng?

It has obviously improved since the 1980s, but over the last few years under Xi Jinping China has lurched alarmingly towards increased militarism overseas and increased authoritarian control and human rights abuses domestically. In the last month I have four times been on buses that were pulled over at military checkpoints on the highway and every passenger ID'd, including just last night. This didn't happen three years ago. The internet in China now is much more restricted than it was three years ago. Since Xi came in China has launched a major crack down on human rights lawyers, and a group of Hong Kong publishers have just disappeared. Artists are getting arrested for their 'subversive' material, and Tibetans and Uighurs cannot get passports.

@strangerland

In other areas China has become much more free and open. Travel to the country and talk to the people if you want an accurate view of China - basing your opinions of what you read in the western media is a sure way to not get it right.

The last few years have seen things going the wrong way again, see my examples above. I'm in China right now, travelling and talking to the people, and the fact is that what I see and hear here does corroborate the reports in western media.

@smith

How's this any different from Japan, save for Japan not having the largest military in the region? The rest is EXACTLY the same, you just pretend one is still a democracy while the other has never purported to be one.

Are you seriously contending that Japan is the same as China? It's a preposterous claim. Gross human rights abuses are routine in China, and Japan for all its faults is nowhere near such a situation. Japan's 'pretend' democracy as you put it, for all its faults is very much better than the political system in China. Yes, Abe has steered Japan on to a worrying path... but China is decades ahead along that path, and is accelerating faster along it under Xi. Ossan has a point here - there was a hope that prosperity and a rising middle class in China would lead to increased democracy here, but under Xi Jinping things are getting much more authoritarian. When's the last time you saw a (heavily armed) military checkpoint IDing everyone using the highway in Japan?