More classified documents found at Biden's home by lawyers

Maybe he thought they would be safer under his pillow, like money.

So Biden is no different from Trump.

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2022/12/classified-documents-found-in-search-of-trump-storage-unit.html

Let's hear hypocritical democrats try and defend this.

sakurasuki

So Biden is no different from Trump.

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2022/12/classified-documents-found-in-search-of-trump-storage-unit.html

Quite different actually. Trump is likely to be charged with ‘wilful retention’, something that as far as I have seen Biden did not do. Biden’s lawyers notified the archive agency as soon as they found the documents and arranged to return them.

Trump didn’t. He kept them. His lawyers said that he had returned them when he hadn’t. His ignored subpoenas to return them. He even said that they are his documents, when clearly the are not.

Silkanvil

Let's hear hypocritical democrats try and defend this.

Let's hear the hypocritical Trump supporters pretend that this is the same thing as Trump's case.

Except, it is like he didn't have a Library card and took the book home for a few years.

At this point, maybe the FBI should search Obama's and Bush's houses,seems like we have an epidemic of miss-handled classified documents.

Of course democrats will make excuses for Biden. Fact is, he had ZERO clearance to remove documents from the WH or anywhere else.

Funny how the rules aren't applicable for them. #impeachbiden

Let's hear the hypocritical Trump supporters pretend that this is the same thing as Trump's case.

Except it isn't.

They found nothing in Trump's house that wasn't okay to be there. Biden had no clearance as VP, so he removed documents, illegally.

It's funny how hypocritical democrats can be when they're caught red-handed.

Belrick

Of course democrats will make excuses for Biden. Fact is, he had ZERO clearance to remove documents from the WH or anywhere else.

Agreed. This part is the same.

Funny how the rules aren't applicable for them.

Trump is likely guilty of wilful retention. Biden? Not so much.

@Belrick , Democrats certainly don't have a corner market on hypocrisy.

Investigate and get to the bottom of it. Doesn’t look good but we don’t know all the details yet.

Bob Fosse - I agree. In the US, nobody should be above the law, not even the POTUS. We have to be able to speak truth to power and hold our leaders accountable.

Belrick , Biden got the same identical briefing Obama got as VP ,saw the same papers Obama saw, even former official have access to documents in the national archives,

No obstruction like Trump, but no excuses, either. Biden needs to take responsibility.

Biden is the definition of a politician and whether it was by accident or he intentionally took documents, there should be punishment. It is now 3 locations documents have been found on Biden, so his hypocrisy seems obvious, but must wait and see what happened.

With Trump's obstruction and precedent, it might alleviate Biden's case some, as Trump's actions could help Biden. They're similar in classified documents were found, but how they were taken, the possible motive and what documents were involved will make a difference.

For Biden, it's a black mark, absolutely. For Trump, it was just another of many his dissing the law. I dislike Biden, but he's far better a president and individual than the countless terrors of Trump.

Actually, taking classified docs was minor for Trump, the insurrection and with it, the war against our constitution and democracy, his business being a fraud avoiding taxes, sexual misconduct allegations, etc., etc...they're all making for the docs less a major issue for his lawbreaking life.

So this is the fourth separate time stolen classified documents have been found.

reviewed independently of anything or anyone this is obviously serious criminal activity.

Still no FBI raid? Could have gotten all the material at once.

*Trump is likely guilty of wilful retention. Biden? Not so much.*

Agreed, but Biden still broke the law (Espionage Act).

Trump will likely be punished, Biden not at all (get-out-of jail free Potus card)

Stealing requires a malicious intent to take what isn't yours, lime when Trump ordered that government docs be shipped to Lado and then ordered the FBI to be lied to.

That didn't happen here so there's no theft involved.

But having after spending so many years covering for an obvious criminal, I can see how you would be easily confused.

Blacklabel

Still no FBI raid? Could have gotten all the material at once.

As long as they are volunteering the documents, a raid seems unnecessary. A raid would only be required if you wilfully retained records.

u_s__reamer

Trump is likely guilty of wilful retention. Biden? Not so much.

Agreed, but Biden still broke the law (Espionage Act).

Trump will likely be punished, Biden not at all (get-out-of jail free Potus card)

Agreed.

Nah. The fact that Trump claims he has declassification authority means he doesn’t not “know” he has classified information and had intent to take declassified documents.

This “claim” rests on the assumption that Don would never intentionally do anything wrong since he could have just declassified them (which he didn’t) with his mind (he can’t).

But being a documented narcissist sociopath, he doesn’t care about the law or right and wrong.

And thus the defense crumbles.

But it will be interesting to watch “less intelligent Voldemort” make these “arguments” to a credulous jury under oath.

I’m going to enjoy that one.

Beside the statutory limit has expired,they have no legal case, because it known,

The documents were not stolen and we do not know what they were about but included memos from Obama.

How frustrating it must be for the MAGA cult to whatabout and yet not be able to convince anyone that what seems true IS true, namely that Trump is a criminal and Biden is careless.

Is this how the Ukraine and China money was given over to The BIg Guy? what were some of the classified docs about? China and Ukraine, what a coincidence.

Some people are saying that The Big Guy was storing classified documents related to the Biden Crime Syndicate's relations to Burisma, the China Communist Party, Ukraine, Hillary's missing emails, and Hunter's laptop in the basement of a pizza parlor. We can't confirm any of this yet, but who's to say that it isn't true?

In any case, this discovery is plenty reason to totally exonerate Donald Trump of all wrongdoing in the Mar a Lago documents case and his involvement in the January 6 trespassing case. It is clear that the BCS has wrapped its tentacles firmly around the DOJ, FBI, and the Democrat Party. I have complete faith that Gym Jordan will get to the bottom of this with his subpoena power. Jordan knows more than anyone how wrongdoing can be covered up by those seeking power.

In any case, this discovery is plenty reason to totally exonerate Donald Trump of all wrongdoing in the Mar a Lago documents case and his involvement in the January 6 trespassing case. It is clear that the BCS has wrapped its tentacles firmly around the DOJ, FBI, and the Democrat Party.

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I have complete faith that Jim Jordan will get to the bottom of this with his subpoena power.

Yes

Jordan knows more than anyone how wrongdoing can be covered up by those seeking power.

No, but he will dig and unlike the Democrats, he’s not going to gloss over certain witnesses the way the Dems were doing, so let’s see where the investigations go, they didn’t even start yet.

What a joker Joe is.

Letting his personal lawyers, who did not have security clearance, take part in the search for classified documents!

Haven't heard from Harris in a while.

Many people have access to classified documents. There are the analysts, the intelligence agencies, and the people who compile and print them. Officials have access on a need-to-know basis.

Nonetheless, Biden had no legal authority as VP to have them.

Biden had memos from Obama. You know nothing.

The fact that two different SCs will examine their respective cases in isolation gives lie to the whataboutism that is the core of Trumpism (AKA New Fascism) and doesn’t bode will for the insurrectionist in chief as he is a known fabulist and leaves a trail of legal wreckage behind him wherever he goes.

Indict them both. Let’s see who leaves court with a felony conviction.

That would (will) be Trump.

I hate Trump because apart from being a narcissist sociopath, a habitual liar, an wanton Criminal and an utter failure, he’s also an idiot and a fascist.

Ok, I get the hate, I feel exactly the same about Biden and most Democrats in Washington, but I don’t have anything personal against them, I just think they should be working at some law firm as divorce lawyers and raking in big bucks and just not govern.

So my dislike is very well-placed.

No, it’s obsessively personal, not healthy. 

As for Biden and criminal with the word “criminal” referring to Biden, I didn’t. That’s the fever dream of your cult. 

Well, his history shows a lot of questionable and immoral acts over the last 50 years, how do we know this? History.

They found nothing in Trump's house that wasn't okay to be there. 

They found hundreds of documents that weren't OK to be there. Some of them "top secret". I am unaware that Biden had anything more than a very small number, and they sound pretty inconsequential. I've handled "confidential" documents of a government nature, and most of them you could publish and no one would take the slightest interest.

A lot ofTrump's were market "Top Secret" and he obstructed the return of them. These are the aggravating factors.

bass4funk

"Any documents or electronic files containing that information are supposed to be marked, and only officials with proper security clearances — and a “need to know” — are permitted to see them or be told of their contents."

"In order to have authorized access to classified information, an individual must have national security eligibility and a need-to-know the information, and must have executed a Standard Form 312, also known as SF-312, Classified Information Nondisclosure Agreement."

Many people have access to classified documents.

Not these, don’t even go there! If you or I were in the same possession of these exact documents we would go to prison period and end of story. A VP cannot legally view and doesn’t have the right to view any presidential documents let alone have them. If Pelosi or McCarthy had them, that would be ok? No, absolutely not.

unlike the Democrats, he’s not going to gloss over certain witnesses the way the Dems were doing

The Dems "glossed over" certain witnesses. Most of their witnesses were Republicans who were actually working for Trump. If that's not unfair, I don't know what is. Also, why was Ray Epps never called to testify?

Biden's people voluntarily announced that they found WH documents and volunteered to cooperate with authorities. These people are corrupt to the core. If Biden were innocent, he and his goons would have denied culpability, lied to the authorities, and taken legal action to keep the documents in the Corvette garage. It is clear now that Biden has committed an offense unprecedented in American history.

Gym Jordan is a truth seeker, and never shies away from uncomfortable facts. As a former wrestling coach, he knows that misdeeds cannot hide behind closed doors, or in a steamy shower room. And as someone who never wears a jacket and speaks aggressively, he can be sure to make the Marxist Washington establishment shake in its boots.

Truth will out, and our lord 'n' savior will surely rise to glory once again!

I found and old banking documents,that was only intended for bank employees only , dealing with money laundering,it tell bank employees to be suspicious of some bank transactions,lots of people think the Feds watching their transactions are new,when he they been doing it for decades

bass4funk

Many people have access to classified documents.

Not these, don’t even go there! If you or I were in the same possession of these exact documents we would go to prison period and end of story. A VP cannot legally view and doesn’t have the right to view any presidential documents let alone have them. If Pelosi or McCarthy had them, that would be ok? No, absolutely not.

You do not know what you are talking about. No one knows outside of those involved what the documents were but we do know some were memos from Obama.

Did you get an email about them? So tell us all what the documents are about. We do not even know what classification the documents are and if any were marked restricted or top secret.

I've handled "confidential" documents of a government nature, and most of them you could publish and no one would take the slightest interest. 

so did you take them home? It’s “fine” right? Or did you know if you did you would be in prison?

am unaware that Biden had anything more than a very small number, and they sound pretty inconsequential

more than 20 and the liberal media of course would make it “sound like” that. You know that girl went to prison for five years for ONE inconsequential classified document don’t you?

his history shows a lot of questionable and immoral acts over the last 50 years,

Without a doubt. Biden has a long history of stiffing contractors, setting up fake entities (like a university), using money from his own charity to buy paintings of himself, evading taxes, attempting to nullify the results of an election, and lying to authorities about documents that he willfully took to his beach house. In the history of America there really is no one else who reaches the Biden Crime Syndicate's level of corruption.

Biden's people voluntarily announced that they found WH documents and volunteered to cooperate with authorities.

As did Trump’s. Not to mention he and the DOJ talked about the documents in his possession.

These people are corrupt to the core.

Washington? Well, yes….but we knew that already…

If Biden were innocent, he and his goons would have denied culpability, lied to the authorities, and taken legal action to keep the documents in the Corvette garage. It is clear now that Biden has committed an offense unprecedented in American history.

As former VP there are a lot of unanswered questions to be asked

Jim Jordan is a truth seeker, and never shies away from uncomfortable facts. he can be sure to make the Marxist Washington establishment shake in its boots.

The Dems seem to be nervous and angry about it. Why are they on a whine tirade about looming investigations?

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Biden's people voluntarily announced that they found WH documents

they didn’t “announce” it to the America people for months. if it’s nothing, why did they hide it from the people Biden works for.

Even this week they have been hiding the next 3 instances of stolen documents being found. So they know it’s a crime and politically damaging.

Any president has a daily intelligence briefing, something Trump didn't bother with, and the VP is made aware of the contents.

wallaceToday  10:40 am JST

Any president has a daily intelligence briefing, something Trump didn't bother with, and the VP is made aware of the contents.

"Any"? Work on your grammar.

Under Obama's executive order, the vice president has original classification authority.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/01/11/biden-trump-classified-documents-an-explainer/

Any president has a daily intelligence briefing, something Trump didn't bother with, and the VP is made aware of the contents.

Not entirely and it still doesn’t answer the legal question, how the heck was a former VP allowed to hold onto former Presidential documents?

Biden's 'Corvette' excuse won't cut it. Special counsel has a lot to do

https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/bidens-corvette-excuse-wont-cut-it-special-counsel

bass4funk

Not entirely and it still doesn’t answer the legal question, how the heck was a former VP allowed to hold onto former Presidential documents?

How do you know they were former presidential documents? What we know is that they appear to be classified documents but anyway,

Under Obama's executive order, the vice president has original classification authority.

I think someone would is more likely to steal that very nice-looking Corvette than the old classified memos.

Definitely US is a complete circus farce.. LOL !!..

Keep making easier the China's way to the top of the world..

Let's hear hypocritical democrats try and defend this.

Let's hear the sore loser crybabies Republicans celebrate with this theatrical skit..

Wallace,the Supreme Court do not treat all classified documents as criminal offense,such as the Pentagon Papers of US involvement in Nam,it revealed how the war was a lost cause and Nixon sought too keep this private,US citizen have right under FOIA,to question the secrecy of US policy Google Pentagon Papers

Like Trump, it will be investigated and we will all see what becomes of it.

More classified documents found at Biden's home by lawyers

Way too easy. This a squirrel

How do you know they were former presidential documents?

Why would Garland appoint a SC if they were not?

What we know is that they appear to be classified documents but anyway,

Then if that were the case, no SC was needed, but the fact that one was appointed States otherwise.

Under Obama's executive order, the vice president has original classification authority.

Then if that’s the case, Garland was wrong to appoint a SC, but since he has and according to Turley who’s a liberal not to mention one of the best legal minds second to Dershowitz disagrees.

The fact is that the argument that you protected classified documents as carefully as your Corvette will not cut it with the criminal code. As the Justice Department stated in the Trump filings, their mishandling of classified material can be a criminal act. The Justice Department cited provisions included 18 U.S.C. 793 (Gathering or Transmitting Defense Information) and 18 U.S.C. 2071 (Concealment, Removal, or Mutilation Generally).

Let’s just see where this goes.

Keep making easier the China's way to the top of the world..

Hardly.

Let's hear the sore loser crybabies Republicans celebrate with this theatrical skit..

Nothing to celebrate. And the Dems now more than ever can’t. But having said that it seems clear now that the Dems are trying to dump Biden. In the beginning they protected this man to the hilt and now they’re throwing him under the bus it seems.

bass4funk

not all classified documents are president-only ones but Obama authorized Biden by executive order. But they should not have been removed from the WH.

not all classified documents are president-only ones but Obama authorized Biden by executive order. But they should not have been removed from the WH.

Again, the point is, they were there, unsecured and on the floor, that is a crime, now to the extent of the crime just by that alone we don't know, so like you said, let's wait and see.

In the Penn location, the documents were in a locked storage room. In the garage, they were in a box.

If it is a crime, then so it is for Trump. We know Trump had some top secret documents in an unlocked room hidden between magazine pages so he knew they were there and not something overlooked.

Trump & Biden. . . Apples to oranges.

It’s like comparing Dr. Evil to Captain Klutz.

The FBI recovered *more than 11,000*** government documents** and photographs during its Aug. 8 search at Mar-a-Lago.

How many documents did Biden have? 10 at the Penn Location. 5 in his garage.

How do we know they were not planted?

Really? ROFL

Biden has not been charged with a crime. DOJ is deciding about Trump.