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Why aren't all these cables being released as news in the free and transparent democratic West? Same news every day realised by the media monopoly...

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Could it be, Asagao, that the media "monopoly" as you put it isn't quite as free or transparent as the democratic West?

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Officials said the disclosure in the past week of more than 125,000 sensitive documents by WikiLeaks, far more than it had earlier published, further endangered informants and jeopardized U.S. foreign policy goals.

Reading this, a very simple solution suggests itself.

The US might abandon its policy of secrecy and begin to conduct its affairs in a more open, transparent and honest way.

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further endangered informants and jeopardized U.S. foreign policy goals

Oh yes. The blowback we waited for and did not get last time.

The Associated Press was not among those news organizations.

And everyone followed AP's lead this time, or so we are supposed to believe? If we get blowback, it will be because everyone refused to help Wikileaks. But why? It seems to me that some people actually want that blowback to happen, just so they can say "I told you so!" The press knows such a situation will sell more papers and garner more web hits. Could it really be anything else?

I am more concerned about the blowback of lies and sneaky politics than the blowback of honesty. Wikileaks is a large part of what we have to expose lies and coverups, but its not nearly enough. Those haters of the truth will speak against Wikileaks, but not against those that refused Wikileaks all assistance. How convenient will be their complaints, won't they?

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The US might abandon its policy of secrecy and begin to conduct its affairs in a more open, transparent and honest way.

Because the United States is the only country that doesn't disclose every single document it creates, right? The "open, transparent and honest" world you envision is one in which authoritarian regimes can track down and eliminate dissidents at will.

Oh yes. The blowback we waited for and did not get last time.

Read the article. Last time the released documents at least had some vetting to conceal identities. This latest release didn't.

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America's interests? Classified documents... only classified in America.... I would go after the leak and not the website, it is not like wikileaks hacked and got these, someone in the government or in a top position leaked these documents.

I'm really not concerned about American interests, I prefer own countries interests over America.

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DeploreAug. 31, 2011 - 11:04AM JST

Read the article. Last time the released documents at least had some vetting to conceal identities. This latest release didn't.

Read my post. I know.

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Because the United States is the only country that doesn't disclose every single document it creates, right?

No. Because the United States has more fingers in more pies around the world than anybody, is therefore more of a global concern when it follows dastardly policies of secrecy even from its own people, and because this leak is of American documents.

The topic is not China and if China keeps secrets it shouldn't for self-serving purposes, it pretty much only affects Chinese people. But we don't approve of them either.

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Where did I read that this has a little more to do with these words, Assange, Australia, and International Atomic Energy Agency? That seems kinda associated with Japan at this time, why isnt that in this article?

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More leaks, but still nothing in the mountains of data released that the 9-11 Troofer doofuses can sink their teeth into.

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Sorry, it's hard to tell what's happening now. Wikileaks is releasing unvettted documents and their site is being hacked and the relationship they had with some media outlets who were helping them sanitize the documents is falling apart? So are the unsanitized documents being released a result of Wikileaks' actions or the actions of the news organizations who were working with Wikileaks?

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Wow, I didn't think anyone took wikileaks seriously anymore.

Maybe they hacked themselves for free publicity...

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“Dear governments, if you don’t want your filth exposed, then stop acting like pigs. Simple,” the group posted on Twitter.

Great. Let's ask Wikileaks to govern us. (as soon as they get their own security sorted out)

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SuperLibAug. 31, 2011 - 02:17PM JST

So are the unsanitized documents being released a result of Wikileaks' actions or the actions of the news organizations who were working with Wikileaks?

Or is a third party involved? Or is it not the result of actions but rather the result of machinations and plans?

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Ha, this is ironic. WikiLeaks are run by (ex)hackers....... and is now under attack by other hackers.

If only the whole world is so open and transparent, starting with WikiLeaks itself (we wanna know who funds it; ya never know if it includes alias-using states who have an agenda). Or China's plans for disputed territories, North Korea and Taiwan, a sovereign state. Or even Al-Qaeda's secret documents - if WikiLeaks don't mind becoming a target for fatwas. It'd be so cool, haha!

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Oracle: Or is it not the result of actions but rather the result of machinations and plans?

How do I know you or forces you support are not involved?

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What I'm going to say isn't going to be popular...

If only diplomacy was as simple as some people here think. Lies are sometimes told to keep the peace, because the chaos cause by riots and the like can be very damaging to a country. An orderly imperfect society where not everyone gets what they want is better than a chaotic one where nothing gets done.

The masses are a mob, half the time poorly informed, and are "guided" more by emotions like fear and anger than logic.

"The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter." - Winston Churchill

He was one of the few politicians with the guts to say it as it is.

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How do I know you or forces you support are not involved?

Find a mirror. If you see a tin foil hat, it was me and Jimmy Hoffa, definitely. If no tin foil hat, rest assured, if I had that sort of power, I would not be posting here. I would pay someone else to post in my stead.

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@ Oracle

if I had that sort of power, I would not be posting here. I would pay someone else to post in my stead.

How do we know you're not being paid to do exactly that (Post in someone's stead)... I mean "Oracle", "mouthpiece of the Gods", it's pretty obvious, no? :)

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Perhpas due to Super(natural) Power !

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Oracle: Find a mirror. If you see a tin foil hat, it was me and Jimmy Hoffa, definitely. If no tin foil hat, rest assured, if I had that sort of power, I would not be posting here. I would pay someone else to post in my stead.

But that's exactly what you'd be expected to say. Machinations and plans....

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We all know who is responsible for that attack on WikiLeaks. Washington of course, lead by socialist president of naïve and powerless, mister Obama. When the white house is drowning with lies and deception and US media sell out like a cheap hooker, WikiLeaks saying the truth? Oh no Obama administration cant have that!

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Well, wikileaks kinda brought it on themselves, and remember they promised to release dirt on every country the could when they had the chance. So that was like painting a target on their back for all the world governments.

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Bah, they had what? Personal opinions of diplomats and a video of marines in a cock-up killing journalists in Iraq that the US had supressed...

Most people were more interested in Assange's dirty laundry than they were in the stolen cables. There was no smoking gun.

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Is WikiLeaks still around...... I thought they faded away.

I suspect that they hacked themselves to get a little free press or someone tripped over the power cord and disabled the server.

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icanthinkofoneAug. 31, 2011 - 06:59PM JST

Lies are sometimes told to keep the peace, because the chaos cause by riots and the like can be very damaging to a country.

The problem is not a few lies and secrets here and there. The problem is abusing the priviledge. There is no way you can convince me that the mountains of files marked secret are all legit in a representative democracy.

The information about the journalists who got massacred was just the tip of the iceberg.

And funny how Wikileaks was fine and good until it got dirt on the U.S. government, isn't it? Then suddenly they are a malicious bunch of hackers the big players don't want to associate with.

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thatss right I remember it said something about Australia and the US voting against the leader of the Atomic Energy lot-who was being voted in for the third time-and no other country supported them (not even Britain seems weird)....now what was his/her name....hard to tell it was foreign sounding.....so who leaking what is hard to tell cause Assange certainly doesnt like the foreigner who hands out Australian passports-apparently Assange's was cancelled this last year, and he said it was of no use, and why doesnt the guy who hands out the passports just cancel it again, or Assange said, even better still, why doesnt that guy cancel his own passport and get the hell out of Australia-sounds like the guy in charge of Australian passports is foreign doesnt it.....maybe Assange would like to go to the US......

People who go on about wikileaks being insignificant, have no idea about how the rest of the worlds dirty laudry is always hung in Australia-nor might I add, do they have any idea that Australian education is not underneath like it's geographical location-then again, depends who is saying what, maybe they do know, but want everyone to buy into the fact that Australians make crappy english teachers :)

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Oracle: The problem is not a few lies and secrets here and there. The problem is abusing the priviledge. There is no way you can convince me that the mountains of files marked secret are all legit in a representative democracy.

So let's open them all up so we can take a look. All of them, because we all know that all of them can't always be legit. No more classified documents anymore. How does that sound?

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Another day, another batch of leaks, and the 9-11 Troofer clowns are still waiting...

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We all know who is responsible for that attack on WikiLeaks. Washington of course, lead by socialist president of naïve and powerless, mister Obama.

Arizonski, Obama is not responsible. There are many Obama and democrate haters in Arizona. I can tell by reading your nonsense here. People like you are responsible for shooting the congress woman of your state. Shame. I have no part of your organization.

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globalwatcher - Obama is not responsible.

Obama is never responsible. For anything. It's all Bush's fault or the Republican's fault or the Tea Party's fault. It's the independents fault that many no longer support Obama. It's the Democrats fault that many Democrats are calling for someone to run against Obama. It's the new-voter student's fault that they are spending so much time looking for jobs and not supporting Obama.

Obama can never be held responsible.

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