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More than 30 California children still stuck in Afghanistan

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They are all native Afghans living in the US. The chose to visit even after the pullout was announced to happen during their visit.

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The Californians. How are they going to get back? Perhaps take the A1 to Khan Watt, Watt down to Shash Darak, hang a left on Microrayan, swing that first exit on the roundabout, and boom — straight down Airport Road!

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always spot on

https://www.amren.com/videos/2021/08/our-rulers-never-learn/

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Biden announced the August 31 pullout back in April. News reports reported on the Taliban's quick progress throughout this summer. Whoever decided on these visits is responsible for putting their lives and those their children danger.

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They are all native Afghans living in the US. The chose to visit even after the pullout was announced to happen during their visit.

Yes and you saw how nearly impossible amid that chaos to get past the 3 point Taliban check parameter, every person that was a Green card holder or the ones that had special visas were attacked, documents taken and torn up and the ones with Americans passports didn’t want to take the chance of either getting killed or out in an hostage situation. They tried and were left behind. And it seems more and more like the State Department did (from the start) actually know how many Americans or Green card holders were in that country.

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It might not have been a smart decision to travel to Afghanistan in these conditions, but one cannot judge others’ attachment to the country they were born in.

I hope they are able to get back safely.

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“Conservatives” suddenly caring about immigrants and contract workers. Obviously, it’s virtue signaling simply to denigrate a president they don’t like.

Once Tucker tells them to turn their faux outrage to other topics, these rabid hyper-partisans will be back to attacking immigrants and contract workers.

Anyone else want a warm dish of hypocrisy to go with your morning coffee?

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“Conservatives” suddenly caring about immigrants and contract workers. Obviously, it’s virtue signaling simply to denigrate a president they don’t like.

They are Americans born in the U.S. and immigrants with special visa status to work and contribute to American society.

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Biden says the mission was an amazing success, then why does he constantly blame everyone for the mission?

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“Conservatives” suddenly caring

No, they always cared and voiced concerns about the pullout being done so hastily.

about immigrants and contract workers. Obviously, it’s virtue signaling simply to denigrate a president they don’t like.

No, didn’t like Obama but he did a great job of ordering the death of OBL give credit where credit is due. Glad we left Afghanistan, long overdue, didn’t like how we left, most Americans didn’t like how he botched this

Once Tucker tells them to turn

Tucker doesn’t control anything his numbers climb and continue to climb higher because more and more people can’t trust the msm and they’re tired of hearing 24/7 attacks on a former President instead of talking about the current.

https://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2021/jul/7/inside-beltway-tucker-carlson-ratings-king/

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Biden says the mission was an amazing success, then why does he constantly blame everyone for the mission?

Because he thinks if he keeps telling himself that, maybe he will believe it, because no one with a straight face believes this, we all watched in real-time he this all unfolded disastrously.

https://freebeacon.com/national-security/poll-nearly-70-percent-of-americans-disapprove-of-bidens-handling-of-afghanistan/

https://www.nasdaq.com/articles/poll-americans-give-biden-low-marks-on-afghanistan-pullout-want-to-see-evacuations-through

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So President Biden delayed the pullout by 3 months and it was hasty, the honorable dear Mr. trump wanted to do it in a hurry and it was on schedule. Wonderful logic.

Logic? Coming from the people that are trying to stupidly blame a former President who’s not even in office, which on its face is hilarious. Do what makes you feel good, hold on to that, it just gets better for the GOP and 2022 thank you Biden.

https://ussanews.com/News1/2021/08/30/democrats-bracing-for-gop-house-takeover-in-2022-amid-bidens-afghanistan-crisis/

Yet the sponsors continue to desert him in droves,

And still has the backup from the network to make sure he stays on and can say what he wants and once again the left failed miserably in that pathetic endeavor again and again and again. Lol

People showing poor judgement , do not deserve to have custody of children

I see, so Biden bungling this to the point where on the ground people had no idea what was going on amidst all the confusion and chaos and then when you do what you can after getting last minute warning (the reason why we are in this mess and why this President is getting so badly hammered) you try to make it out and then you get turned away, beaten and documents torn from the Taliban. Wonder how people that say these things would act were they in that same situation…..

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PS

So this is an issue of party politics and not one of these kids likely being in some mortal danger?

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Oh, but Team Biden still calls the withdrawal a "success."

If this is how he defines success, I'd hate to think what he thinks failure is.

He was warned over a month ago by our diplomatic personnel in Kabul that a rampaging Taliban takeover was imminent and that the Afghani military wouldn't be able to stop it -- and he utterly ignored that warning.

And the Afghani military was left even more unprepared when we hastily pulled out, leaving them without our air support, intelligence support, and logistical and mechanical support.

I could go on and on about how utterly botched this withdrawal was. Biden doesn't get it. It's not the withdrawing itself that's the problem -- it was the horrible way in which it was carried out.

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You are not kidding, right? San Juan Afghan community… That was a bit too much and has just completely burnt through the chips in my little brain. lol

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The children travelled with one or both parents during a time of uncertainty. They are Americans and also Afghans. What reason is there that they might be in danger from the Taliban. Once flights resume at Kabul airport they should be able to leave.

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Hypocrisy. - “World’s greatestDouble Standard” says someone who routinely demands the U.S. & other western allies to “get out” (abandon) Japan & Taiwan to ‘The Neighbors’?

“All US governments in history have abandoned people, military, allies, countries.. The world's greatest double standard..” -

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It wouldn't have mattered what was done, the moment USA decided to leave the airport would have been flooded anyway. Either Trump in May or Biden in August. There was no partial or middle step

Maybe if the people there were interested in ending corruption and willing to fight for their nation, they could have kept it. Now as refugees, why would you want that in a refugee?

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I wouldn't take my children to an active war zone. Reckless endangerment.

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Flight out of Kabul are still happening ,look at the departure board Google Flightaware Kabul

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Maybe they might have thought Afghanistan is a resort for vacation? Better send special forces there soon to rescue them.

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Very reckless to send children over to Afghanistan for a visit. What could possibly go wrong at this time?

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Once flights resume at Kabul airport they should be able to leave.

After what we saw happen over the last two weeks, we’ll believe it once it actually happens.

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The only president that put Americans and its allies last and terrorist first.

LoL don't forget his predecessor. He released 5,000 Taliban fighters. Brilliant.

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I think Biden's plan failed.

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It's good for US to pull-out now. Otherwise there will always be alibi to stay. Biden is the only one who have the guts to do this and take responsibility for any mishap. US should focus more on America.

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LoL don't forget his predecessor. He released 5,000 Taliban fighters. Brilliant.

Dont his predecessor that did an exchange deal with an American deserter that went AWOL and now those people are running the country, brilliant.

Again, who is President now?

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Two hundred children. A great success?

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And if one more cable host uses the term "behind enemy lines" I will scream.

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Conservative icon Ann Coulter had some scathing criticism of Trump and Afghanistan today;

“Thank you, President Biden, for keeping a promise Trump made, but then abandoned when he got to office,”

“Trump REPEATEDLY demanded that we bring our soldiers home, but only President Biden had the "courage" to do it."

https://news.yahoo.com/ann-coulter-praises-biden-afghanistan-191912659.html?fr=sycsrp_catchall

Interesting, who will be the next conservative icon praising Biden and slamming Trump?

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Too bad for them but why did they choose to go during such time? The planning for the US pulling out of Afghanistan wasn't done two nor three weeks ago.

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one cannot judge others’ attachment to the country they were born in.

Sure we can.

I suppose there hasn't been any time the last 20 yrs when Afghanistan was safe for children. They should have had family travel to the US, instead of sending their children to a war zone.

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“Conservatives” suddenly caring

No, they always cared

This is an extremely funny joke.

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The daily flip and flop of Trump-world and our Repub friends....

And? He’s not the President.

Two days ago: "We need to get everyone out of Afghanistan - leaving anyone behind is a travesty and a broken promise".....

Biden left a lot of people behind. Never have I seen so many angry vets at Biden, but they know this guy who has been like this since the fall of Saigon. Bob Gates was right. “Joe Biden has been wrong on every foreign policy issue for 4 decades”

Yesterday: "Why are we rescuing and taking out all these Afghans, they're not their "best and brightest" and are just a bunch of terrorists"....

Well, they took everyone including not the best and brightest just anyone.

Today: "Save the children!"....

That is not happening.

Conservative icon Ann Coulter really torched Trump today;

Who?

 "Thank you, President Biden, for keeping a promise Trump made,

What promise? The one we’re he said all agreements would be reneged if the Taliban abused women and attacked soldiers? Like Rob O’Neill said, Biden makes Carter look like a decent President.

But at least Biden gave the nation one good thing, the best chance to retaking the House next year, so there is one positive outlook from all of this blunder.

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bass4funk 

Biden left a lot of people behind. Never have I seen so many angry vets at Biden, 

Are there VETs in Japan?

120 mostly Afghans safely evacuated. 100 Americans remain. An unknown number of Afghans helped the US. All troops home, like Trump, had promised.

The majority of Americans wanted all the troops out. They have that now.

All evacuated Afghans still need to be vetted, yes?

The latest figure for the cost of the 20-year war is $5.7 trillion.

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It is fascinating to see all the attempts at distraction by the Joey B Fan Club: "but Trump....", "but Ann Coulter said...", "but conservatives...", "but Tucker..."

None of it matters.

Biden messed this up royally, as is his way. He left people behind, in spite of his promise just 2 weeks ago to get everyone out. Reports of American citizens at the gates of the airport waving their American passports and being refused entry are numerous and growing. The fact that the military did their best in a crap situation doesn't in any way excuse the horrid decision making that came from the administration.

This will be an albatross around the neck of this administration that won't go away any time soon. They will be slaughtered in the mid term elections.

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A majority of Americans wanted every American serviceman and servicewoman out of Afghanistan!?! Really!?!

Then I must be in the minority because leaving 2,500 or so members of the military would have left a check on the Taliban, slowed down their takeover, and would have left a FOB in the region for future contingencies.

Anyway…these children remaining in Afghanistan is another example of President Biden not being in control. Certainly not being presidential. His speeches are still coherent. They simply do not match what is happening on the ground…anywhere.

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The daily flip and flop of Trump-world and our Repub friends....

And? He’s not the President.

Trump signed the surrender agreement, in Black Sharpie...

Two days ago: "We need to get everyone out of Afghanistan - leaving anyone behind is a travesty and a broken promise".....

Biden left a lot of people behind. Never have I seen so many angry vets at Biden, but they know this guy who has been like this since the fall of Saigon. Bob Gates was right. “Joe Biden has been wrong on every foreign policy issue for 4 decades”

I'm a Vet, and I'm not angry. But I now almost every one of my fellow Vets were very angry when Trump called us "Losers and Suckers"....

Yesterday: "Why are we rescuing and taking out all these Afghans, they're not their "best and brightest" and are just a bunch of terrorists"....

Well, they took everyone including not the best and brightest just anyone.

Hmmmm....save everyone, but don't save everyone....welcome to MAGA-world....

Today: "Save the children!"....

That is not happening.

How do you know?

Conservative icon Ann Coulter really torched Trump today;

Who?

The conservative icon you have said in many posts you "loved"...

 "Thank you, President Biden, for keeping a promise Trump made,

What promise? The one we’re he said all agreements would be reneged if the Taliban abused women and attacked soldiers? Like Rob O’Neill said, Biden makes Carter look like a decent President.

Your beloved conservative icon disagrees with you...

But at least Biden gave the nation one good thing, the best chance to retaking the House next year, so there is one positive outlook from all of this blunder.

Given the COVID surges in Red States, and the bungling by clowns like Abbott and DeSantis, that will only happen if they allow voting from the grave...and I'm sure the Repubs will limit that too...

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Anyone else want to get back on topic? This is Biden's mess. Take responsibility for who you voted for. What a major tragedy, and so early in the presidency. Looking forward to hearing more weak excuses from the liberal voters, you guys messed up, plain and simpke. Deal with your errors.

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For all you people whining about Biden's "bungle" or "botch" or whatever, I still haven't heard you propose any concrete and verifiably effective measures that would have made a difference. It's mostly "he should have listened to the military" or "vets are angry" or "the Taliban knows Biden is weak" and blah blah blah.

U.S. involvement in Afghanistan has been a mess for 20 years. What's happened in the past 2 weeks is not surprising, and it would have looked similar no matter who was in charge, including the former guy who has recently said the U.S. should have "let [Afghanistan] rot".

It's important to look at the whole situation in a historical and geopolitical context. Afghanistan is the size of Texas. It's not like clearing out of a rented office space.

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I see my typo

"120 mostly Afghans safely evacuated. 100 Americans remain. An unknown number of Afghans helped the US. All troops home, like Trump, had promised."

120,000 mostly Afghans safely evacuated,

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Take responsibility for who you voted for. What a major tragedy, and so early in the presidency. Looking forward to hearing more weak excuses from the liberal voters, you guys messed up, plain and simpke. Deal with your errors.

the alternative was Donald Trump. I have zero regrets.

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A few facts:

Trump's agreement with the Taliban was conditions-based. Specifically, the Taliban were to reject al-Qaida and they were to enter into a power-sharing agreement with the existing Afghanistan government.

Biden completely blew those conditions off. He could have said to the Taliban, "You broke the deal, so we're staying" -- which is exactly what Biden's military and intelligence advisors recommended.

Biden was warned over a month ago that a rampaging Taliban takeover was highly likely if we withdrew, which is (again) why his military and intelligence people recommended a delay in withdrawal. Again, Biden blew it off.

Now, 13 American military members are dead, at least some (if not many) Americans are left behind (including children), and the Taliban are running riot all over Afghanistan -- a task made even easier for them because of the billions of dollars in weapons and equipment that we left behind, now in the Taliban's hot little hands.

And Biden has done nothing but lie, blame other people for this debacle, and now declare it a "big success." (Why would he feel the need to point fingers of blame at others about this, if it were such a success?)

This is by no means the first signs of Biden's incompetence, but it is the most vivid. He should resign or be removed.

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Are there VETs in Japan?

What?

120 mostly Afghans safely evacuated. 100 Americans remain.

I thought the State Department has no idea as to how many Americans are left, but yeah they gave them the biometrics.

An unknown number of Afghans helped the US. All troops home, like Trump, had promised.

No, but I get that Blinken desperately wants the people to think that and they don’t and he knows it, that’s why he’s always incognito.

The majority of Americans wanted all the troops out.

79% of Americans thought Biden botched this poorly and 84% of Americans believed we should have stayed until every American is out of that country.

All evacuated Afghans still need to be vetted, yes?

But they’re not

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A convoluted article. Some of the children were born in the U.S. and are citizens. Eh? What does that mean?

Three school districts, in California have students who were visiting Afghanistan and were stranded either temporarily or remain 'in-country'. Among the stranded: 7 families were able to exit Afghanistan - without notating how many children were in their care. Six were from San Diego.

San Juan Union School District: 27 students from 19 families

Sacramento City Unified School District: a family with three children.

Cajon Valley Union School District in a San Diego suburb with a large refugee population, eight families. Six families have returned. So. Two families are stranded.

Good luck!

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For all you people whining about Biden's "bungle" or "botch" or whatever, I still haven't heard you propose any concrete and verifiably effective measures that would have made a difference.

For one thing, not giving the Taliban all of our equipment and leaving Americans behind would be a good start.

It's mostly "he should have listened to the military" or "vets are angry" or "the Taliban knows Biden is weak" and blah blah blah.

Yeah, as Bob Gates said, Biden has been wrong on every foreign policy issue, but blah, blah, right? Even Leon Panetta thing this guy is a joke.

U.S. involvement in Afghanistan has been a mess for 20 years. What's happened in the past 2 weeks is not surprising,

Actually, it is to most of the vets how this was botched, it is very surprising.

and it would have looked similar no matter who was in charge,

Not to this level, even Obama could have done a better job and that says a lot.

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As usual the democrats having to clean up the the republicans mess, while the republicans play the blame game. The republicans know that the attention span of the average citizen is quite low, hence the incessant shouting about how the democrats are to blame. But don't worry, I'm sure the the democrats will leave a healthy economy for the republicans to stuff up once again.

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Trump signed the surrender agreement, in Black Sharpie...

And Biden was the President that bungled this, ask the parents of the dead soldiers who are to blame. You won't hear the 4 previous Presidents for sure.

I'm a Vet, and I'm not angry.

One of the few.

Hmmmm....save everyone, but don't save everyone....welcome to MAGA-world....

Biden is MAGA now?

Given the COVID surges in Red States,

This is not about COVID or Trump, let's stick with the person in charge.

As usual the democrats having to clean up the the republicans mess, while the republicans play the blame game

Actually, it's the other way around. But no one is surprised, we kind of expected that. Dems could care less about accountability.

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As usual the democrats having to clean up the the republicans mess

That does seem to be the pattern. It’s like housetraining puppies.

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Reagan and Clinton had foreign policy disasters but both recovered. 

Not like this, not like this, Biden won't recover from this one, the Vets and hundreds of families men and women that served and are deeply proud of the uniform and to their word will never forgive this President for what he did to those Americans. Again, the midterms next year don't look good at all for the Democrats.

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I served in the military, but before 9/11. I have two close family members who DID serve in Afghanistan. Does that qualify me to have an opinion? Just as an aside, both of them are horrified at the way things went.

One thing that the current and former Presidents have in common is that neither one of them served in the military. Both were able to use medical/student deferments to avoid the draft and going to Vietnam.

The accounts given by the families of those who were killed in Kabul last week, and met the President when the bodies were repatriated, are maddening. They were less than impressed with the President's demeanour and shallow displays of sympathy.

As for how this could have been done better, a few ideas:

Don't surrender Bagram air base, even if it requres a few more troops

Wait a couple months until the 'fighting season' ends and the Taliban retreat to the mountains

Disable/destroy/recover the billions of dollars' worth of military equipment given to the Afghan military

Coordinate with NATO partners

Coordinate with private air carriers to provide flights BEFORE the evacuation started

I am sure there are others.

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If Republicans want to play the blame game, they should blame Trump. All Biden did was follow up on keeping his word to honor that terrible one-sided deal that Trump made. It ended up being a sweet deal for the Taliban because although it required that the Taliban keep "their word' that they would not attack Afghan forces, people and American interests, there was nothing in place to enforce that "promise".

And we all know how much a Taliban's word is worth. And lest we forget, he had almost universal appeal to bring the troops home from all Americans. And so when Biden does keep his own word to bring the troops home from a war that we should never have been in in the first place, something Trump never did in his term, now Republicans are crying foul? I'm sorry, but you reap what you sow.

Let this be proof that Trump is terrible at making deals. People from Putin to the Taliban know this and end up licking their chops by playing Trump for the fool he is. Trump's deals give up more to the opposition with getting back very little in return.

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Trump's fault - he surrendered...and let the 5K terrorists loose from prison...

Obama let these new leaders out in exchange for a AWOL solder, Bergdahl

But Biden pulled that final pin. What a mess.

It's you who want to save everyone one day,

Americans, yes, sir!

Which would be DeSantis and Abbott - and their cratering ratings....

Yeah, right, nice try, but I had no idea they were the POTUS

Hmmmmm.....no mention of your beloved conservative icon Ann Coulter....interesting....

Is she POTUS?

If Republicans want to play the blame game, they should blame Trump. All Biden did was follow up on keeping his word to honor

He didn't, because if he did, Americans wouldn't be stranded and 13 Marines might still be alive.

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Not like this, not like this, Biden won't recover from this one

Yes, Bass. And Trump’s ‘lunatic fringe’ will fizzle out, Clinton will beat Trump, Trump will beat Biden and the Republicans will keep the senate.

Best leave the predictions alone.

I’m not sure. There are some who are saying this has lasting damage in that it has reinforced the image of Biden as mentally incapable, but that didn’t hinder Reagan who was clearly in severe decline, and Bush 2 and Trump were born ignoramuses. Others are saying electorates have short memories ( this is certainly true ).

As you loved to say, the economy is all that matters. Have you done a u-turn on that?

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> HakmanToday  01:39 pm JST

A few facts:

Trump's agreement with the Taliban was conditions-based. Specifically, the Taliban were to reject al-Qaida and they were to enter into a power-sharing agreement with the existing Afghanistan government.

oh? Was of the impression they have done just that. In fact (perhaps it’s an alternative fact) I’ve seen a couple articles (granted, NYT so probably fake) saying that the Taliban to the very end honored the conditions of said agreement? They’re probably lying. Sorry to question the god king!

what was that he said to Hugh Hewitt regarding that rocket attack on the FOB? Don’t remember exactly but was very forceful about how he would like “show them Hell beyond their wildest imagination” or something like that. I’m sure that would have ended the war, right? No way after facing the fury of Trump would the Taliban want to fight for another 10 years, right?

btw, Biden didn’t “give”the Taliban all that military gear. He gave it to the Afghan government/ANA. The same one delegitimized by the Trump admin. If you can’t comprehend the damage done to that government by having to beg to be included at Doha, I just don’t know what to tell you.

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btw, Biden didn’t “give”the Taliban all that military gear. He gave it to the Afghan government/ANA. The same one delegitimized by the Trump admin

You just made everyone's point once again, thank you. Just like I said.....

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