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Motive sought for fatal string of Arizona freeway shootings

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Another member of the well regulated militia.

If Americans would just exercise common sense and stay away from places where shootings are likely to occur, they could easily avoid being victims of gun violence. These places include bars, dark alleys, night clubs, concert venues, schools, the workplace, churches, grocery stores, roads and highways, and the home.

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These places include bars, dark alleys, night clubs, concert venues, schools, the workplace, churches, grocery stores, roads and highways, and the home.

…..as well as gangs and high crime neighborhoods.

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Is this the guy?

https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/559233-arizona-man-charged-with-1st-degree-murder-after-shooting-spree

yep having your own weapon sometimes saves your life.

Richard Valencia said he spent Thursday afternoon in the hospital after being shot in the shoulder as he walked from a convenience store in the city of Surprise. The 34-year-old told Phoenix news station KSAZ-TV that he fired back three times with his own weapon.

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Is this the guy?

Didn't do much for the victims, did it?

Maybe thinks would have been different if the 3 year had a gun as well.

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the guy who had a gun and fired back is alive.

I cant say that for the other person.

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the guy who had a gun and fired back is alive.

He is fortunate the first shot didn't kill him. As for the cars on the freeway, how were they supposed to respond? I have been in that situation btw. The round didn't hit me but how do you know in the flow of traffic on an urban freeway who just shot your car? And how do you shoot back while driving? Be serious for once.

Arizona allows anyone to walk around with a gun on their hip. It is not surprising that deaths by firearm per 10,000 people is about double the rate of California where you can't walk around with a gun on your hip. When any idiot can buy a gun, you get a lot of idiots walking around with guns, and some of these idiots will use them to harm others. How hard is this to understand?

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because this shooter would have had a gun in Arizona or California- because he is a criminal.

So its my choice to live in a place where I can also have a gun so that I can fire back and not be dead. as the alive person in this article did. Criminals are not really known for following the law, ya know?

When any idiot can buy a gun, you get a lot of idiots walking around with guns, and some of these idiots will use them to harm others. How hard is this to understand?

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Arizona allows anyone to walk around with a gun on their hip. It is not surprising that deaths by firearm per 10,000 people is about double the rate of California where you can't walk around with a gun on your hip. When any idiot can buy a gun, you get a lot of idiots walking around with guns, and some of these idiots will use them to harm others. How hard is this to understand?

Well, in Texas everyone has a gun and I don’t know anyone that was shot or murdered. I get what you’re saying, but the stats don’t point to that and also, the left always drone on about gun deaths and the numbers, but they rarely talk about the reasons, they’re more obsessed with talking about Trump and the power he still wields politically more than the real reason and cause of death.

https://news.asu.edu/20200130-arizona-impact-new-analysis-firearm-deaths-asu-finds-most-victims-are-suicides

Among the findings:

• Over the three-year period studied, from Jan. 1, 2015, to Dec. 31, 2017, the number of firearm deaths increased nearly 18%.

• Of the total 3,188 firearms deaths, 71% were suicide, 23% were homicide, 5% were undetermined and 1% were unintentional.

• There was a 14% increase in firearm suicides in the three-year span, from 702 to 798. The rate of firearm suicide per 100,000 people increased from 10.6 to 11.7.

• There was a 27% increase in firearm homicides in the three-year period, from 208 to 265. The rate of firearm homicides per 100,000 people increased from 3.1 to 3.9.

• Firearms were used in 59% of all suicides and in 69% of all homicides in Arizona during the period.

“You can see the numbers have gone up but Arizona’s population has increased in this time as well,” Kovacs said, noting that it’s important to consider the rate per 100,000 and not just the numbers.

Once again, we need to look at the mental issue and what are the contributing factors instead of just attacking guns and wanting to demonize and punish the law-abiding citizens that do follow the rules.

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I guess if you dont have a gun- you just become a crime statistic.

Few people will even care unless you happen to be Black and your killer happens to be white. If so you might get a mention at a Democrat press conference and a small article in the local paper or on CNN. But the focus wont be on you, but on the race of your killer.

As for the cars on the freeway, how were they supposed to respond? I have been in that situation btw.

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Well, in Texas everyone has a gun and I don’t know anyone that was shot or murdered.

I don't know anyone in Texas that was shot or murdered, either, but it's a regular occurrence.

If I don't know them, they don't count... is that the rationale?

Walmart El Paso wasn't that long ago, but hey, what's 23 dead people when you can have a piece of steel in your pocket to compensate for your inadequacies?

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I guess if you dont have a gun- you just become a crime statistic.

Right, but several other people were also shot and injured, just as the armed guy was. So it doesn't seem like guns saved anyone.

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Right, but several other people were also shot and injured, just as the armed guy was. So it doesn't seem like guns saved anyone.

But they do, ask any farmer or rancher or people that had to protect their properties or themselves.

Interesting read a few years ago.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/paulhsieh/2018/03/20/any-study-of-gun-violence-should-include-how-guns-save-lives/?sh=2279f2b35edc

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Arizona allows anyone to walk around with a gun on their hip. It is not surprising that deaths by firearm per 10,000 people is about double the rate of California where you can't walk around with a gun on your hip. When any idiot can buy a gun, you get a lot of idiots walking around with guns, and some of these idiots will use them to harm others. How hard is this to understand?

Right, but several other people were also shot and injured, just as the armed guy was. So it doesn't seem like guns saved anyone.ther follower of the greedy loudmouth Wayne LaPierre.

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takeda.shingen.1991@gmail.comToday  11:56 am JST

I guess if you dont have a gun- you just become a crime statistic.

No, you become a criminal. The public has the right to live in safety and peace and that is law enforcement's purpose. This ain't the Wild West anymore. Then again, look at those scummy Trumpian militia trash, they haven't progressed or evolved socially or mentally since the Civil War era. Neo-Confederates, Klansmen, Proud Boys, neo-Nazis. Trash, all.

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*Of the total 3,188 firearms deaths, 71% were suicide, 23% were homicide, 5% were undetermined and 1% were unintentional.*

That statistic is quite consistent across the United States (I believe suicides by firearm account for two-thirds of all firearm deaths) so I think Desert Tortoise's point that "deaths by firearm (in Arizona) per 10,000 people is about double the rate of California" still applies when suicides are stripped out. I couldn't find stats for California specifically, though.

Right, but several other people were also shot and injured, just as the armed guy was. So it doesn't seem like guns saved anyone.

Three shooting victims survived (including the victim who returned fire) and about 10 were otherwise injured. So the percentage of survivors who shot back is what? 8%?

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play with numbers and what ifs all you want. the guy who shot back is.not.dead.

if he had not shot back he could have been dead like the other person is who did not shoot back.

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Tricarico told police that an "unknown male" pointed a gun at the suspect at a car wash Thursday morning, after which Tricarico then allegedly bought ammunition for his AR-15-style rifle, according to the court documents.

He allegedly told police that in one of the shooting incidents, a pedestrian shot at him "so he shot back," and in a second incident, a man in a car pointed a handgun at him "so he shot back at him."

Arizona shooting spree suspect thought people were after him for prior shooting: Police - ABC News (go.com)

Is it me or does the mere presence of guns encourage more shooting?

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play with numbers and what ifs all you want. the guy who shot back is.not.dead.

5 other people who didn't shoot back. Are. Not. Dead.

if he had not shot back he could have been dead like the other person is who did not shoot back.

What were you saying about "what-ifs?"

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100% of people who shot back are alive. Perfect score.

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100% of people who shot back are alive. Perfect score.

Lol so what? You claimed the guys life was saved because he had a gun, but clearly that isn't true, because 3 unarmed people also survived.

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Not really news Guns are everywhere in the US. When someone decides he's going to flip out or gets pissed off in the heat of the moment and wants to kill someone, a gun will always be an easy option for murder.

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HIS life was saved. by Himself. because 100% of people who shot back are alive. he shot back.

Its quite simple.

The others survived not due to their own actions, but simply due to fate or luck.

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blacklabel: So its my choice to live in a place where I can also have a gun so that I can fire back and not be dead

Well the better situation would be if neither of you had a gun, then he's not shooting at you with his gun in the first place, and you don't have you use your gun to defend against his gun.

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correct.

but as he is a criminal, if I have that expectation of such people's conduct/behavior- Im dead.

I dont get where this naive expectation that criminals follow the law comes from.

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I mean my reaction when a criminal starts shooting isnt "why I really wish he didnt have a gun......"

its "let me pull out my own gun that I am well trained in using, shoot this idiot and save myself and everyone around me"

I guess gun owners just have a different mindset- we dont need to have a victim mentality like others do.

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