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Badsey
The Globalists keep pushing the CIA Muslim Brotherhood it seems. I would expect a terrorist scenario at Suez with the ObamaPuppet sending in the Marines then the tyranny (like Iraq) =The people are thinking they are independent and the globalists must keep these people dependent and under tyranny/terrorism. It will be a fight between the people vs the tyranny --> non-violent protest even when being attacked will be the only way to win this. The military junta is just a stall tactic.
nightflesh
“Egypt before Jan 25 is completely different from an post-Jan. 25 Egypt,” he said. “The Muslim Brotherhood is in a state of shock because they have discovered that the developments happening around them in society aren’t what they had imagined.”
“In the upcoming elections, we are expecting huge numbers of people to show up to vote, a new generation. No one knows where it’s going to go, and I don’t expect it to go to the Muslim Brotherhood,” he said.
I hope he's right, Egypt doesnt need another party to tell them what to do and what not to do again.
SushiSake3
Looking out for all the conservative types who claim to be pro-democracy, unless - of course - it suits them to be anti-democracy as will likely be the case here.
Elbuda Mexicano
I was just watching the BBC, the German news etc..on BS and it mentioned how our brothers in Iran, who are sick and tired of their dictators are also demanding freedom, so I guess, the MB can start to understand that the Iranian style Muslim dictatorship will not be accepted by the regular Egyptian, but in a democracy, the MB should also have the right to participate, not like under the Mubarak days.
WilliB
SushiSake:
You can turn that around the other way: Look at all the leftists who where sneering at GW Bush's failed "democratic domino theory" in the Middle East now buying into it hook, line, and sinker. Talk about 180 degree change...
goddog
good luck. Another place just put on a list of not to visit.
skipthesong
Looking out for all the conservative types who claim to be pro-democracy, unless - of course - it suits them to be anti-democracy as will likely be the case here." No, but it doesn't mean I have to support them. If you vote in my enemy you lose me as a friend until the next round of elections come around. By your words, I gather you would support the Nazis, the KKK, NOI, and what not because they were elected? Of course you wouldn't. Don't go yelling at conservatives yet chummy up to what I consider the epitome of conservative.
skipthesong
You can turn that around the other way: Look at all the leftists who where sneering at GW Bush's failed "democratic domino theory" in the Middle East now buying into it hook, line, and sinker. Talk about 180 degree change..." oooh Sushi, willi slaaaaamed you!
Smorkian
Yes, except GWB believed it took the invasion of a sovereign nation and the deaths of tens of not hundreds of thousands of people and untold billions of dollars. Turns out it took Facebook and Twitter.
Score one for those who thought GWB was a misguided fool all along.
skipthesong
Yes, except GWB believed it took the invasion of a sovereign nation and the deaths of tens of not hundreds of thousands of people and untold billions of dollars. Turns out it took Facebook and Twitter." Now, that is the quote of the day... Ah but wait, there wasn't any facebook or twitter then
manfromamerica
After all, the Muslim Brotherhood is "secular". Right Obama?
manfromamerica
sushi - why the antagonism? If they want to be oppressed by Islamofascists, that's their right.
WilliB
Snorkian:
Wrong-o! GW Bush`s democratic domino theory went way beyong Iraq.
GWB naively believed in the power of unspecified "freedom" to transform muslim Arab countries into modern democracies. And this got us the Hamas in power in the Gaza strip (he had been warned about this) and now the Hizb-Allah in power in Lebanon (also predicted).
And the left was sneering all the way, and correctly so. And now, suddenly, you listen to the leftist commentators, and you´d think GWB or Rumsfeld are talking. It´s truly bizarre.
WilliB
manfromamerica:
LOL, yeah, I saw that too on TV. Obama´s CIA director going out in public and effectively declaring that he has no clue. Un-be-lievable!
SushiSake3
willib, your argument is way off line. gwb's push for a democracy domino effect was based on costly military invasions. The regime change we see in Egypt happened in peacetime with no obvious external influence, which underlines just how deeply flawed gwb's ideology was.
sourpuss
yay!!!! party!!!
manfromamerica
WilliB- Actually it was the National Intelligence Director, not CIA Director Panetta. But the whole bunch of them told conflicting stories about Egypt.
manfromamerica
I agree 100% with sourpuss.
SushiSake3
It's really interesting watching the ideological flip-flopping, back flipping and hoop jumping of conservatives here. I stick by my words: The regime change we see in Egypt happened in peacetime with no obvious external influence, which underlines just how deeply flawed gwb's ideology was.
One of the problems with conservatives - as is blindingly obvious to those of us familiar with conservative JT posters - is their ongoing lack of firm ideological integrity. As I said, they'll support democracy...until they decide not to. Flip. Flop. What will my viewpoint be today? Will I have a different viewpoint tomorrow? Probably. Does it depend on what I eat for breakfast. And all the while, many conservatives who claim to 'support' democracy are the same ones who support bombastic military invasions of sovereign nations. So for these folks, democracy's cool...until it's not. Flip, flop, hello, goodbye, chalk up a bullseye for SushiSake. :-)
skipthesong
As I said, they'll support democracy...until they decide not to. Flip. Flop." So, you are one of those that did indeed accept GWB's first election over Gore? Or did you or did you not protest it?
What will my viewpoint be today? Will I have a different viewpoint tomorrow?" If the president or if any of any of our elected officials can why can't we?
Probably. Does it depend on what I eat for breakfast." Or if you got something or you didn't before breakfast; that does have an effect on me.
So for these folks, democracy's cool...until it's not." Yeah, but you didn't answer the question
manfromamerica
Egypt can do whatever they want. Just don't attack our allies or fly planes into our buildings.
WilliB
Sushi Sake:
No. He also advocated the open elections in Gaza, and as a result we got the Hamas regime. And he actually pushed Mubarak on open elections, which you seem to have forgotten. His "democratic domino theory", which so so spectacularly failed, was actually formulated by his intelligence advisor Wolfowitz... ever bother to read him?
It is hilarious to see all these leftist Bush-haters suddenly advocating GWBs failed policy.
SolidariTea
"Looking out for all the conservative types who claim to be pro-democracy, unless - of course - it suits them to be anti-democracy as will likely be the case here."
Independents,conservative and Liberatarians are right to fear the rise of the party that the Egyptian 9-11 mass murderer Mohammed Atta was member of.
But the far left is apparently OK with it...
WilliB
SolidariTea:
And that assassinated Sadat, that spawned Hamas and Hizb-Allah, whose spiritual leader Al Qaradafi calls Israeli civilians legitimate targets for terrorism, that spawned Al Quaeda... continue at will. In fact, the MB is the Mother of all islamist movements.
Apparently. And the White House intelligence director thinks the MB is "secular". Truly mind-boggling.
SolidariTea
A guy like SS3 isn't advocating Bush's policies.
Mubarak was a US ally, in a dangerous unstable region and his nation home to one of the world's most important waterways. He was committed to the Camp David accords and unlike Nasser did not thrill the Egyptian crowds (average IQ - 85 or so) with pledges to redeem decades and even centuries of Arab and Egyptian humiliation by dstroying the only democracy in the region. So in the Left's book he had to go.
Saddam Hussein, otoh, was an implacable enemy of the US, Israel and W Europe.The Left would tolerate anything he did - invasions, chem weapon poisoning of minorities in Iraq , ecological destruction, you name it - so long as he clearly stuck to his Nazi-inspired Baathist ideology, at the center of which was the old left wing totalitarian contempt for free societies and free markets.
Smorkian
And is responsible for New Coke and cattle mutilations in Nebraska. Sadat was assasinated by Islamic Jihad, a violent Islamic group.
MB is a normal political party in most of the Islamic world. I know some of you guys see the world "Muslim" and can think of nothing but suicide bombers in Israel and planes flying into the WTC, but sourcing all the Arab world's ills is like blaming Tim McVeigh on (pick your right wing leader). It makes no sense.
And some random poster on the internet knows more because...? You read and/or watch TV?
Smorkian
That should have read "sourcing all the Arab world's ills to MB".
Sarge
"Muslim Brotherhood"
Oh brother.
sailwind
Al-Queda's number two guy is from where? And got his Jihad from whom?
Smorkian
Any group of a large number has a few bad apples. The Boy Scouts has had depraved criminals come from its ranks. In other words, irrelevant.
Jihad is not something you "get". You're not making sense.
WilliB
Smorkian:
Islamic Jihad is an offshoot of the Muslim Brotherhood. Your point?
LOL, yeah right. You might want to read up on how Assad Senior dealt with the MB when they wanted to topple him. Does the town of Hama ring a bell?
Smorkian
According to you, everything is an offshoot of the MB. Your point?
Quite familiar with that. Not sure what that has to do with anything.
manfromamerica
Smorkian -
Muslim Brotherhood got the jihad, Islamic Jihad got the jihad, Hamas got the jihad, and Hezbollah got the jihad. Even the Taliban got the jihad.
I suspect it's from prolonged exposure to radical Islam.
Smorkian
This makes no sense in its entirety. It's like you are using a totally different meaning than the actual meaning for the word "jihad", not to mention the grammar of the usage.
I honestly have no idea what you are talking about.
manfromamerica
smorkian-
Try the google. You can easily find who has the jihad, and who is probably going to get the jihad.
Smorkian
But what does "get the jihad" even mean???
manfromamerica
smorkian,
The jihad comes from somewhere. In Egypt alot of it came when they downloaded the internets.
The question is, will the Muslim Brotherhood be more susceptible to getting the jihad once they have political power through elections?