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© Copyright 2023 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed without permission.Muslim mobs attack churches in Pakistan after accusing Christians of desecrating Koran
By ASIM TANVEER AND MUNIR AHMED MULTAN, Pakistan©2023 GPlusMedia Inc.
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zones2surf
The "religion of peace" strikes again.
There is NO other religion in modern times that is responsible for these sort of violent terroristic attacks in the sheer numbers across multiple countries like the "religion of peace".
None!
And that is a factual statement. It isn't religious bigotry, it is a statement of fact.
Mr Kipling
Well we have the Hindus in Manipur, the Buddhists in Myanmar and of course the Jews in Palestine. Do we count the sexual violence of the Catholic church?
Maybe all religions are problematic.
u_s__reamer
“The emotion of our Muslim brethren flares up very quickly, even at hearsay,”
Rumor is an ugly bird that flies faster than the truth. Even when true, a torn or burned page of a made-made book does not justify even hurting a hair on the head of one of Allah's creations.
stormcrow
Barbarians! And they call themselves Godly people. What a joke!
Jim Dandy
I wonder if Christians will start random terrorist attacks on innocent mosques and Muslims just because? It's different because our mothers, father's, grandparents, schools etc don't blame all of our societies short comings on Muslims
TrevorPeace
And the religious nutbags carry on their blasphemy against the real message of their religions. Forget tolerance, kill the believers in other religions. Makes sense, when you consider it's been going on for at least the past 2000 years. Glad I'm an atheist.
Desert Tortoise
Fact free. Aside from terrorism, assassinations, bombings and deaths during "the Troubles" in Northern Ireland, "Christians" fighting "Christians", I think the Palestinians could make a pretty strong counter argument too.
Desert Tortoise
The example of such attacks set by the Klu Klux Klan is pretty recent. A whole town in Florida, a whole section of Tulsa, burned to the ground with great loss of life because good "Christians" took offense to the color of the inhabitants skin. Just last week in a city outside of Houston TX some parents took offense at posters depicting children of different races holding hands, suggesting these posters were offensive and needed to be taken down.
changamangaliay
Video emerges of Police standing still and watched while the mob vandalized churches.
Mocheake
You get accused of desecrating the Koran so they desecrate your churches. Pretty unholy.
Uchujin
Maybe? Of course religions are the main problem, they all want us back to the dark age.
nandakandamanda
‘A religious mob.’ Feeding frenzy. Nothing religious about that. Another sad day for humanity.
Jonny G
Lot of comments trying to suggest religion is and always is the problem (except when it isn't of course - plenty of non-religious wars - take the big 2 in the 20th century or the current war in Ukraine for instance).
Odd then that when one considers the nations with the best human rights scores they are overwhelmingly 'Christian' nations. Even if now many may be homes to mostly non-religious populations, the core values that influenced such respect for the individual and sanctity of life are inescapably shaped by those Christian histories and values. Whether we like that or not those be the facts. Indeed, the fight against slavery was on the basis and to the appeal of Christian values.
Needless to say, most of he nations with the worst human rights records have something else in common.
Also do not confuse people using religion to appeal to tribalism/unify one people against another. These are examples of people being the problem - and in any conflict there will need to be something to unite one side against the other. Most religions speak of nothing but peace, forgiveness and respect for humanity. See the anti-slavery point above.
sunfunbun
And most, if not all, religions are hypocritical. They act in the name of peace, but only in the purest sense which eventually gives way to followers using religion as a reason for violence.
It isn't that religion is the cause of all wars and violence, but it is the one part of humanity that is supposed to promote peace and honesty, but it often does the opposite, and cause many, many confrontational and deaths due to people who differ from their beliefs. How silly to not respect a diverse and different way of thought.
Religion should be open to other religions, but the thing about religion is, it is cultish and is narcissistic. It loses all meaning of good when it denies other Gods and people who do not necessarily believe in a God, as the religious zealots are often removed from human rights for all, including, of course, women and people who differ from themselves. Men who think they are God's gift to the world because of their religion are just wrong. And far too often, as in the American right, religion is used as an excuse in a belief that lies ubiquitously.
For us atheists, God and religion is an excuse for humans who can't understand science and reasoning why the universe and the earth exists. I thank being alive and living this life, I have no expectation for an after life. I do believe in love and peace and respect to people, even if I disagree with them. I don't want to kill anyone who differs in my beliefs.
Can religion say the same? Not as far as history has shown.
starpunk
All religions have their true devotees and their fanatics. But this is even more fodder for the brainwash US TV news media. Since violence, hate and war is glorified so much on American TV this will only enflame the passions and hatred of all the xenophobes, Islamophobes, armchair generals and skippy kids - especially the ones who are pissed about how Afghanistan and Iraq turned out. More 'rah-rah, kill the Arab!' crap sediment in America. More jive for the self-righteous snobs and narrow-minded CRETINS.
Burning a Quran is an unchristian thing to do. People who do that never even bothered to read what it says. And Christianity and Islam (and many other religions) have the 10 Commandments and the moral messages behind it all. One of them is 'Love your neighbor as yourself'. I don't see that in either side here. That means respect your fellow man, and other faiths too. Don't go burning Bibles, don't go burning Qurans!
There is nothing Christian or Muslim in any of this fanatical crap. Some stupid zealot rube burns your holy book so you go trashing his home and destroying houses of worship. Where is the Christianity in this? Where is the Islam in this? There ain't.
People in America tend to forget, they've learned nothing in the past 30 years. During the 90s in the Yugoslavia wars it was Muslims were in the concentration camps and were being raped en masse. Al-Qaida took it out on moderate Muslims too ('more Islamic than thou'). And the ISIS was committing gross genocide against Jews, Christians, Muslims, Bahais, Sikhs, Zoroastrians, Druze, every doggone religion they could.
And Israel isn't Judaism. What Israel's government does to Palestinians is not Jewish at all. And the crap Myanmar does in the name of 'Buddhism' doesn't make Mr. Siddhartha Gautama smile, wherever he is in the afterlife.
God/Allah/Jah/Great Spirit/etc. isn't happy with any of this disgusting behavior being done in His name at all.
餓死鬼
Not much into religion myself. Honestly though, humans just fight over stuff. If it's not over religion, it's over politics, resources (even if there's enough to go around), lines on a map, lies, words and cattle dung. For such an apparently evolved species, humans get into massive conflicts that can last generations over stupid things.
starpunk
That they do. The Crusades were motivated by greed and politics. Despite good relations between King Richard the Lionhearted of England and Saladin (a Muslim sultan), Europeans waged the 'Holy Wars' because they wanted the wealth and the goods that Arabian and Turkish rulers had through their Silk Route trade with the Orient. So they beat the drums of religious fanaticism, they were so damn eager to slay the Turks that they killed Jews (why not? Fall guys.), Muslims in Europe, Moors and even other Christians. They invaded the Eastern Roman (Byzantine) Empire and set up puppet states but they couldn't maintain them. After it was all over, this 'Christian - Islamic' series of wars was neither and many lives were lost but nothing was gained. The Europeans/'Christian' soldiers failed to break the Islamic 'barrier' to the spice trade with the Orient. And all they needed to do was ask/trade/barter but noooooooooooooo.....................
Never mind all the inquisitions that were motivated by politics and monarchies and not true religion. Fast forward to 1990 CE. Yugoslavia's Communist government steps down and dissolves. Serbia's Milosevic screams hysteria about 'everybody is against us, waaaahhhhhh!!!!!' while he assembled an army of shock troops and secret police to commit gross genocidal abuses against Muslims in Bosnia, amongst others. And he used the Crusades as an excuse for his crimes. And these jihadists, ISIS and other 'Islamic' terrorist pukes in the Middle East are doing the exact same thing in the name of Islam and the Crusades of 1000 years ago is their lame excuse. Just like the Crusaders were not true Christians, the jihadists, ISIS and such are not true Muslims. They're murderers and another 'M' word that I won't repeat here.
theFu
So, 1 guy may have harmed 1 book, so his house and places of worship that he may have never been to are defiled? Talk about disproportionate response. Pakistan laws need to hold these people accountable.
I've known a few Pakistanis in my life. I could see one of them doing something like this. I dated a Pakistani girl in college. If her parents knew about me, I bet she'd have been ordered home. She was becoming an atheist and just a cultural Muslim, no observing the religion. She taught me much.
theFu
There is no such thing as blasphemy. Just people telling the truth that others don't want to hear.
TaiwanIsNotChina
If you don't think the muslims were spreading their faith by the sword and trying to eliminate the Byzantine empire, I don't know what to tell you. There were also reports of pilgrims being harassed in Jerusalem although I supposed we will never know the truth of that.