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Jeez. Get over yourself for a minute. Just because one of the volunteers is a moron and didn't think before speaking doesn't mean that Obama's whole campaign is a sham. Okay, you were discriminated against. The one who did it apologized. The campaign collecitively apologized. There isn't a huge conspiracy perpetrated by the world to discriminate against you. Accept the apology gracefully, and move on with your life. Are all Muslims this sensitive? And if so, it would explain a lot of strife in the world today.

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Heh, the democrats can't have the truth about obama put out there now can they? Just like the candidate Lord Soros and the DNC selected, they have to put up a false image to get votes.

RR

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Or, the volunter was talking out the side of their necks. Or, option 2, the whole story isn't there. It does sound rather one sided, doesn't it?

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America's paranoia about Islam is at an all time high of which Obama is very much aware. Having a woman sitting behind him in head gear would only serve to fuel those fears. It is simply a matter of reading the political climate, which has been no making of his own and acting accordingly.

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RR If you don't support Obama, linking him to George Soros doesn't really help your cause. George Soros is one a a very few Jews that managed to survive in Hungary through the Nazi Holocaust and did not leave until the Soviet takeover. He spent millions of dollars of his own money to win the Cold War. His funding for groups like Solidarity proved crucial in winning the Cold War. Since the USSR collapsed he has spent a few billion dollars of his own money promoting democracy and freedom in former Soviet satellites. George Soros has made many hard-working middle class Americans wealthy and is extremely popular. Perhaps you are anti-semitic? Anyway, linking Obama to George Soros can only help Obama. Obviously, the Obama camp fears being associated with Muslims, if you want to hurt Obama, I would stick with trying to link him with Muslims instead of Jews.

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Hope! Change!

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This is clearly impossible, since everyone who reads their e-mail knows that Obama is a Secret Muslim.

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America's paranoia about Islam is at an all time high of which Obama is very much aware"

better that than having the paranoia of hispanics. Besides, there is a much more legitimate reason to be concerned - America is not an Islamic nation. In those countries, they would take your bibles and god forbid you wear a star of david around you neck. Seems to me they are getting a taste of their own medicine.

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I bet they get a great chance to sue as well, so people here shouldn't be jumping and offering them sympathy so fast. The KKK gave Obama's campaign something in the sum $250,000.00 in his run against Hillary. Do you think they would have let them in wearing those funny robes and hats? Doubt it.

Kind of reminds me of that hair dresser in London. Who was not given a job because she wore a scarf covering her head. Kind of pointless if you ask me.

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http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/kkk.asp

skipthesong, check out the link.

I would hope that this didn't really happen, but knowing some knuckleheads out there, left and right, I can see some dumbbutt doing this. < :-)

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adaydream: I found my source on a video. Now was it an authentic KKK member, I couldn't tell you - I never met one. However, I can Hillary being a much greater threat to the KKK than Obama. But, that's off topic.

Addtionally, I wouldn't want to be the one to tell anyone they couldn't go in some place because of what they are, I just get hyped on the double standards and then boom - a lawsuit. Again, I merely posting to Everton because he feels no one should have any concern about Muslims and that it is really Americans at complete fault on the issue of Islamic and US relations. I disagree.

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“I don’t want to be called something I’m not, but I felt like ... everyone was treating this accusation of being Muslim as though it were some sort of crime or sin,” Aref said.

Change is not upon us yet. But wait. Maybe in a few more centuries . . .

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This is lose/lose situation for Sen. Obama.

If he allows the women wearing the head scarf's to stand behind him, then the lunatic right starts shrieking that he supports terror (ala the Dunkin' Donuts Rachel Ray ad that was pulled). If he doesn't, the lunatics shriek he's a hypocrite.

Either way, the lunatics are going to shriek right up until January when they will have to support every decision he makes as president, lest they label themselves traitors. ;-)

Taka

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This is lose/lose situation for Sen. Obama." Yes it is, but that's politics. Its full of catch 22's

But what I am surprised at is your claim that only on the right exists the looneys. I know Rachel Ray's ad was pulled, but have your really taken a look at some US TV ads lately? There are some very sinsiter ads coming out from the left as well. BET is running stuff equating racism with a non vote for Obama and even worse, uncle tom-ish if you are black and not voting for Obama (I guess MLK would be that too because he was a registered republican at one point; where does it leave little old Abe?)

Anyway, I sense something quite strange here. If America is what you, adaydream and a few others claim about America being so racist, so unsympathetic to Muslim needs, why would they risk it? I guess they don't get the important information you do.

Oh, and BTW, Obama is against gay marriage. Does that make him a traitor now? He states he would go after OBL, does that make anti-Islamic? He purposely defeated Hillary - does that make him sexist?

Don't you see what your assumptions bring about?

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Obama is a lose/lose kind of candidate. So what's the problem?

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skipthesong - I haven't seen those on BET, I watch a comedy on there ever once in a while. I'm sad to hear that the left is stooping low. < :-)

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adaydream: watch more of the discussion shows on BET, Spike TV, etc...

Also, I don't know where you are, but look at some of the local "black" shows in places such as Denver, Chicago, Newark, etc... Its one of the reasons why I am so upset. Let the man get elected, don't prohibit issues that counter him though.

BTW, why do you equate black with left? I feel the left has a thing or two to learn about that.

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Skip,

what I am surprised at is your claim that only on the right exists the looneys

I have never said nor do I believe that loonies only exist on the right.

have your really taken a look at some US TV ads lately?

I watch 2 anime cartoons (Bleach and Naruto) and Television champion with my kids, once a week. Other than that, I don't watch TV. I prefer to read.

The traitor thing was a snarky comment. When any disapproval of the bush administration is met with howls of "traitor" because I, or anyone for that matter, doesn't approve of bush's war and his policies, then those same people should be prepared to call themselves traitors or shut the hell up after Sen. Obama is elected president.

Hope that clears things up.

Taka

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Funny, in a multicultural kind of way, how fame has a way of bringing embarrassing relatives out of the woodwork.

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Obama might watch too much of those beheading tape!!! you know... they always stand behind their victim, say something *%#$&$ and ended up with allah is great, and ....!

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The young headscarf woman should be asked why she is sympathetic to Obama. Obviously, she believes in islamic principles. (Moderate muslims don´t wear the thing --- it is a symbol of political islam all over the world.) Which part of Obamas program does she sympathise with? I am all for exploring this.

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Blacks were more conservative in their religion and how they raised their families when I was younger at home, but it was the democratic programs that helped them out.

It's like the blacks in Alabama couldn't stand Georege Wallace. But they helped elect him every election. Why? Because they knew that when he was good to his poor whites, they reaped the benefits also. I equate them as democrats because they were helped by democrats. Not the republicans. < :-)

Yeah...yeah.. off topic.

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adaydream:

" Blacks were more conservative in their religion "

Put strawman back into closet. Policital islam is a form of government, more than a religion. And the scarf is the symbol of political islam.

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taka, thanks.

adaydream: http://www.nbra.info/

Listen man, I hate both parties and love and hate members of each one. Understand why people like me laugh at this ONLY the dems have minorities concerns established and republicans don't crap is that 1. the KKK was an invention of the Democrates, 2. Jim Crow Laws were those of Dems, 3. Dems have forced more minority people into ghettos by offering race based economic packages which including housing. 4. Dems are the one that created the anti-religion movement and then chummies up to Muslims because they now finally realized that there are so many of them. Now they are party of religion?

I ain't going to give repubs any credit for anything either, but the groupie fashion you are on this is mind boggling and for your age???

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Didn't these girls at least think what type of ramifications would come out of this. I am suspecting a sinister plan here.

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"The lunatics are going to shriek right up until January when they will have to support every decision he makes as president"

I certainly hope Obama doesn't become president. But apparently Taka does. Taka, could you tell us why you hope Obama becomes president?

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sarge: Obama offers many Americans a bit of hope. I agree with the analogy that a black kids can say to himself "I can become president" I do have my concerns about Obama, but then again, McCain isn't really offering too much too different than Obama.

I just hope that through Obama, because he is both, the race issue in the states can be extinguished once and for all.

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Skipthesong:

" I just hope that through Obama, because he is both, the race issue in the states can be extinguished once and for all. "

By the guy who smears his "typical white" grandma in order to excuse his racist pastor? Yeah, right.

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wilib: By the guy who smears his "typical white" grandma in order to excuse his racist pastor? Yeah, right." good point. Did he actually say that, I mean did you hear that out of his mouth?

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I just hope that through Obama . . .the race issue in the states can be extinguished once and for all.

skip,

obama has been playing the race card since the beginning of his campaign.

For 20 years he aligned himself with a church that spewed racist hatred from the pulpit. He donated 20k to that same church during the same year it gave Louis Farrakan a "Lifetime Achievement Award". He may have left that church but it was only after it became a political liability. U.S. churchgoers know that if you sit in the pew, you agree with the view.

He burned any bridge he attempted to build with blue collar workers by calling them Bible clinging, gun hugging xenophobes in front of fellow elitists in San Francisco. Don't expect them to be voting for him on democrat Lemming Day.

His Father's Day speech was directed only at black men. Isn't obama trying to become president of every American and not just black Americans?

When obama loses on Nov. 4th, it will be because he's a woefully unqualified person to lead all Americans and not because he's a 50 percent black.

RR

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RR. I do have an issue with Rev Wright and I big issue with Louis Farrakan. I "had" a white father and when I hear things what Rev Wright said I do get edgy on it. I have been to Wright's church and I am even more surprised he said what he did because I saw quite a few whites there.

"He burned any bridge he attempted to build with blue collar workers by calling them Bible clinging, gun hugging xenophobes in front of fellow elitists in San Francisco. Don't expect them to be voting for him on democrat Lemming Day." Yes, that statement is going to hurt if the media allows it to be played. This could be one time where poorer working class white do make a difference. They haven't for a long time.

However, "His Father's Day speech was directed only at black men. Isn't obama trying to become president of every American and not just black Americans?" well, its about time some politician came forward and said it. Too bad white politicians, including female white politicians are too scared to say anything about it. It was needed to be said. But, I look at that as though he took it from a page of Bill Cosby's Book.

But, don't you think this incident with the Muslim girls was some sort of a setup?

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"A young Muslim woman said she and another woman were refused seats directly behind Barack Obama — and in front of TV cameras — at a Detroit rally because they wear head scarfs."

Heh. They wouln't have had the chance to get their demented PC hats, sorry, scarves on if they took a leaf out of France's book :D

My, what a childish and shrieky event a US election has become.

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"Well, wait a minute, I was obviously ... profiled and discriminated against an hour ago"

Also, has this young lady never been to an airport?

I can't believe this "story" is getting air time - even if you have slightly dark skin these days you get just about every check other than "the finger" at any international airport.

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don't you think this incident with the Muslim girls was some sort of a setup?

Got to ask yourself since when do "volunteers" determine protocol for any presidential candidate?

This incident shows once again that The Great Unifier can be so easily manipulated.

RR

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Now that I think about it, I agree with skip, something is funny here. If they are Obama supporters why would they make an issue out of it when they know it would damage their hero?

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Skip and Proxy,

It doesn't matter if the lady was a plant. Let's say for argument sake that she was. Then the howler monkeys go on a tirade that Sen. Obama can't even keep his photo-ops secure, let alone the nation.

If the man were to crap them a golden brick, they would bitch about the smell.

Let them have their hate. It's all they have left.

Taka

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"Let them have their hate. It's all they have left."

I'm not sure, Taka. They have their bile and bitterness too, with the up-coming and long awaited enema at the WH....

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I'm starting worry a little here. It's just too easy to envision an army of Obama brownshirts (P-Diddy, 2004: "Vote or Die") going after the Muslims if the MSM makes the admittedly unlikely decision to really highlight this unfortunate display of Islamophobia on the part of Team Obama and it costs him votes or even poll points.

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Taka: See, I wasn't assuming a plant by Repubs or whatever you want to call the other side. Look at what they said "but requested Obama apologize directly to her and Abdelfadeel, as well as invitations to sit behind him at a future campaign event." Mistake happen, sometimes at the worse of times and worst of circumstances. I just have that feeling of "let's sue" attitude that is so prevalent in the US.

Last but not least, any Islamophobia, may have been heightened by the Bush Admin, but it was not created by him. There is reason to have a certain feel of fright.

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With all the outrage over the supposed discrimination against these 2 ladies, I am still wondering and waiting for the American Muslim Community to express outrage over the activities of their fellow Muslim terrorists. In private, they disavow these people, but in public they are mum. So with this in mind, shouldn't we remind these ladies that they cannot sit on the fence, by demanding their constitutional rights while quietly supporting those who would do harm to America and its freedoms.

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One of the women, Hebba Aref, is a 25-year-old lawyer (little surprise since the DNC is the party of attorneys). Oh man, Obama's crew made the mistake of ticking off an attorney, and one fresh out of law school at that!

Another report I heard said she contacted CAIR and complained to them about her treatment. I wonder how that phone call went.

It'll all die down, since CAIR wants Obama elected. No, not for his rumored background, but for his foreign policy expertise. (Yes, I'm being sarcastic.)

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Heh, these threads are becoming some kind of support group to the hangers-on of the Bush regime that are still in Denial over the matter of Senator Barack Obama taking the oath in January 2009.

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Voxman

Sharp, yet excellent observation.

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If obama were a man of character, he would defend having Muslims stand behind him. After all, the U.S. is about freedom of religion, and the leftists are always quick to point out that not all Muslims are terrorists. Heh, looks like their new hero disagrees with them.

What this also shows is that obama is a calculating politician. Not any different from any other calculating politician.

So much for change.

RR

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Obama keeps proving to the voters that he will betray anybody and everybody just to achieve his own personal goals. With all whom he's thrown under it to date, obama needs to get a bigger bus.

RR

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Obama didn't restrict their sitting behind him, a couple of zealous vollenteers ask them not toi sit there.

But in some posts, Obama was actually doing the seating asignments and he, Barack Obama, had them sit somewhere else.

Oh that damn Obama. < :-)

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Ah yes, it's the volunteers who were "zealots". Such is the pattern. Nothing was ever Carter's or Clinton's fault either. There was always some underling to take the heat.

You want to see zealots? Take a closer look at these poor "victimized" Muslim women: http://boortz.com/nuze/200806/06202008.html#truth

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I bet the volunteers didn't know who these women were. Like I said they were zealous volunteers who screwed up.

I still haven't seen any evidence where Barack escorted them to different seats.

Matter of fact the brother of one of the women said he understood that the volunteers were probably trying to keep the women from sitting there because of all the accusations that Obama was Muslim, not that that is bad. Posters on this site are more pissed off then the principals in this story.

But please continue with the 'Obama ripped them from those seats and forced them to sit somewhere else.'

These poor "victomized" Muslim women. Oh I love that sentence. < :-)

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These poor "victomized" Muslim women. Oh I love that sentence. < :-)

If you're talking about my posts, then the above is the only time you've been accurate. Although, as usual, you left off part of the sentence.

I have not claimed that 'Obama ripped them from those seats and forced them to sit somewhere else.'

I have not claimed that Obama escorted them to different seats.

Like I said they were zealous volunteers who screwed up.

Matter of fact the brother of one of the women said he understood that the volunteers were probably trying to keep the women from sitting there because of all the accusations that Obama was Muslim, not that that is bad.

So which is it? Were the volunteers zealots or just being cautious?

Such is the problem with trying to be all things to all people. You just end up ticking off everybody, just at different times.

It's better to just be who you really are. Shame Obama (being a typical DNC candidate) can't do that and get elected at the same time.

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Oh yes you folks do. Without saying he actually took them by the arm and moved them.

So which is it? Were the volunteers zealots or just being cautious?

Both I guess, but I'm sure you disagree.

I'm waiting to see Muslims in McCain's crowds from now on. His townhall meetings. Let's start counting how many are in his crowds.

I'm sure the Muslims feel safe in his crowds. < :-)

Going to workout. Gripe, I'll be back. < :-)

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Oh yes you folks do. Without saying he actually took them by the arm and moved them.

Hahahaha... we say it without saying it? Oh my. Well that explains a lot.

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As I expected, this dust-up didn't last long (Obama's got the Hamas vote already locked up, after all):

Obama Apologizes to Muslim Women

http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0608/Obama apologizes to Muslim women.html

I smell cabinet positions in the making!

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Two Muslim women who are activists and work for Islamic front groups? You're right, Republicans don't really care about them. Never said we did, either. Must've been another fantasy of yours.

http://www.debbieschlussel.com/archives/2008/06/muslim_grievanc.html

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Great link about the "victimized" Muslim women, WhiteHawk. Wonder what their Visa status is. Hopefully, they will be deported to any Muslim country of their choosing so, heh, they can denouce that nation's political way of doing things as openly as they are allowed to do in the U.S.

RR

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See, last post above proves my point. < :-)

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If only Hilary was still running against Obama, you just know that she would have had only Muslim women in full garb sitting behind her at her next televised appearance.

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He should have let them sit there, after he checked what was in their backpacks

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