Myanmar crackdown marks death of Nobel Peace Prize: Iran's Khamenei

The nobel prizes have lost all credibility - true enough. But thats not because of suu kyii.

as for irans head mullah lecturing the world on human rights - lets just say ive had my entertainment for the day.

btw, ever notice that its only when muslim interests are threatened that they get on their high hotse abt human rights?

It is #terrorist cleansing, ARSA Muslim terrrorist group and their followers are attacking Myanmar and have killed many local people (Hindu,Christian,Buddhist and also Muslim who want to live peacefully).Myanmar government is just defending and crack down terrorist, many victims in both sides have fled to their safe area,we sympathize all the victims, this war created by ARSA terrorist group, we have right to protect our country, Most of media neglect the reality and described about only Muslim refugees and fueling the conflict, even Turkey deputy prime minister spread fake news and photos,Myanmar is only one country, Muslim are Majority,now many terrorist groups are targeting to Myanmar, our country already failed in media war, please investigate the truth on ground, save Myanmar people and help not to initiate terrorism in Myanmar.

For the Muslim world there is definitely a "different" and "opposite" view of what we define as "human rights" in the Judeo/Christian sense and both are very different from other religions. Therefore for Muslims to state such as above is probably not going to happen. If it did, then it is only for their convenience and deception.

However, for most religions wars and killings are permitted if such action satisfies their own "interpretation" of the moral/ethical values described within their religion and calling it "justified" and "righteous". It just happens that unless it fits their own situation, circumstance and conditions for their own benefit, such actions are not acceptable. Sadly all of that "interpretation" is by so called religious leaders such as popes and imams who are still human and still a living being we know ourselves to be, "animals".

It just happens that in reality and not in religious ideology, nothing is ever equal, same or fair, just as every situation, circumstance and condition and ever participant is "different". It depends on how such people can coexist and survive,

It can be by "force" or by "mutual agreement". It just happens that both are needed to a certain degree. It also just happens that there is less suffering and damage and loss if by mutual agreement than by force. The problem is that in a group, in a society, there has to be a leader that keeps it all organized and coordinated. Such leadership need authority to lead and power to control and enforce.

That authority and leadership can come from fellow man or from elsewhere imagined. It is different for every group. And it is difficult force one over the other without conflict. And this is but one instance.

Kestrel, I'd agree with most points about Iran and their high horse on human rights. But in this case I'd have to agree with them, this once. What is happening in Myanmar is a disgrace. So were extrajudicial drone strikes by another "laureate."

I would say the hard science prizes are still noteworthy. But the peace prize is a joke.

Suu Kyi has really fallen quite astonishingly. There is a clear massacre and ethnic cleansing happening in Myanmar, the laying of landmines on the border with Bangladesh to prevent them ever returning, and hundreds of atrocities daily. To protect herself, she is engaging in back-channel negotiations with such human rights champions as China and Russia for god's sake to prevent any UNSC resolution on the massacre. Now she won't even attend the UN GA as she doesn't want to show her face like some sort of embarrassed child. She doesn't even acknowledge that these Rohingya even exist in her country.. She is turning out to be pretty damn bad

Suu Kyi is a disgrace to humanity. This is not a political or a religious issue, this a humanitarian issue. Good bye "Nobel Peace Prize", I will never care again who go this prize. If they want to keep the credibility of the prize, the must device a system to get the title back from the undeserving.

obama was the loss of the "peace prize".

Zaw Lin, thankyou for your input. I completely agree.

Suu kyii is annoying and confounding the libs because she isnt bowing to the massive public pressure to buckle under and abandon the truth.

no, she isnt going to abandon principle to preserve her reputation or her "brand".

A truly principled and good human being. And rare.

Suu kyii is annoying and confounding the libs because she isnt bowing to the massive public pressure to buckle under and abandon the truth.

Given Myanmar's lack of transparency on this issue, it's hard to tell what the truth is.

Where are you getting your 'truth' from?

gelendestrasse, I think we can safely add the nobel 'literaure' prize to the list of meaningless gestures too. Its been in decline for many years. Last time Bob Dylan got it for gods sake.

(Btw, Im a fan of Dylans music. but that doesnt mean Im going to go along with the travesty of awarding him the nobel literature prize).

Couldnt care less aboout who gets what nobel prize. has as much credibility as the grammys now.

I wonder if those criticising Aung San Suu Kyi can tell us exactly what they want her to do or to say? (Needless to say, it should be an action that is actually feasible within her limited constitutional powers. If it's only words your looking for, please explain exactly what you want her to say, how it's going to help, why it's worth the risk, and why the military would listen.)

She is walking a tightrope with the military and one wrong move or ill-advised condemnation risks plunging the country back into dictatorship. The easiest road for her to take would be to capitulate to every demand of the western NGO's (who have always wanted to exploit her for fundraising purposes) and then spend her life collecting millions of dollars in speaking fees around the world. The fact that she hasn't taken this easy way out shows just what a principled and admirable individual she is. I doubt any of us would have risked remaining in Burma after being released. She is playing a long game, like Gandhi and Mandela. Unfortunately it's not as easy in the 21st century when you have the 24h news cycle breathing down your neck and social media accusing you of being a genocidal maniac worse than Hitler and Pol Pot combined.

The isue not about religion, its all about humanity, no religious debate here, the so called "Nobel peace prize winner " lost directions, she is inhuman, war monger, justice will prevail , and always , you must stand for protecting the weaker part of any society against isolation, persecutions, killings etc, the bottom line is , the woman lead government is killing inocent lifes unsegrigatively, burning their houses, rapping, ...therefore, I individually extend my condemnation to her all the way from east Africa (Kenya) to Burma ...

M3M3M3Today  03:07 pm JST

I wonder if those criticising Aung San Suu Kyi can tell us exactly what they want her to do or to say? 

Not allow her country to commit ethnic cleansing would be a good start. I know, hard, right?

Not allow her country to commit ethnic cleansing would be a good start. I know, hard, right?

Read M3M3M3's post again.

It is very difficult to work out what she can or cannot allow. I very much doubt she has the same kind of authority wielded by the swivel-eyed theocrat in the photo above.

My take on this is the lack of transparency from Myanmar should lead people to be highly suspicious of what is being trotted out by the foreign ministry of Myanmar. The ideas of Ayatollah Ali Khamenei should be treated as zoo noises. I'd always think twice before agreeing with the likes of him on anything.

So yes. I'd say it is hard.

She looks as if she is caught between a rock and a hard place. Playing a long hand must be part of the equation. As part of the political power-sharing package, she has probably been told in no uncertain terms that what the army does is none of her business. The military authorities made sure over the years that life has been extra harsh on her.

Possibly her refusal to take part in the UN general assembly session may be a sort of oriental silent protest on her part, to be read by those who understand these things.

Either way there must be terrible pressure on her behind the scenes. She will have to grasp the situation and formulate the words one day, but for those who still believe in her around the world, that day cannot come soon enough.

JimizoToday  12:12 am JST

It is very difficult to work out what she can or cannot allow. I very much doubt she has the same kind of authority wielded by the swivel-eyed theocrat in the photo above.

Has Suu Kyi even once condemned the murder of even a single innocent Rohingya? When has she spoken out against this atrocity?

It doesn't matter what power people have - witnesses to evil have an obligation to condemn it.

Has Suu Kyi even once condemned the murder of even a single innocent Rohingya? When has she spoken out against this atrocity?

"With regard to violence, I object to any violence committed by anybody against anybody. It does not matter whether the violence is commited by Buddhists, or by Muslims, or by Christians. I object to it entirely."

-Aung San Suu Kyi

M3M3M3Today  04:11 pm JST

"With regard to violence, I object to any violence committed by anybody against anybody. It does not matter whether the violence is commited by Buddhists, or by Muslims, or by Christians. I object to it entirely."

-Aung San Suu Kyi

So in other words, she treats ethnic cleansing in her own country the same way Donald Trump treated the white supremacist violence and terrorism in Charlottesville.

You can't "both sides" an ethnic cleansing, I'm sorry. That's not good enough.