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Whhhhaaaat? Bigotry in the tea-party movement? You MUST be joking!

"Local tea party organizers disputed claims of racism and called on the NAACP to withdraw the resolution."

Well, if there's no racism, why the need to withdraw a resolution condemning it?

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"A white lawmaker said he also heard the epithets, but conservative activists said the lawmakers were lying."

Of COURSE! EVERYONE is lying except the white-supremacists... errr... the 'patriotic Americans'. :)

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The usual Sarah Palin idiotry. Immediately reply with accusations of lying and (un)righteous indignation before looking at facts. Next step, accuse the mainstream media of distorting facts if her comments are proven wrong. Gonna be hard to take on the NAACP, try pandering for votes elsewhere.

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Funny, just yesterday on the O'Reilly Factor he showed a clip of a member of the NAACP calling another Black man who was in the Tea Party and injured at a rally by a SEIU supporter an "Uncle Tom" for being a Black man who supported the Tea Party.

That just goes to show that the NAACP has strayed far from its original beginnings. When a Black man can't even disagree with the so called "party line."

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That just goes to show that the NAACP has strayed far from its original beginnings. When a Black man can't even disagree with the so called "party line."

Really? Tell me what you know about the beginnings of the NAACP (here's a freebie, it was actually founded mostly by non-blacks), and then I'll tell you what I know, and we'll exchange notes. No Wikipedia.

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motogaijin, The actual beginnings started in Niagar Falls in 1905. The Niagara Movement which followed was the beginngs of the NAACP, and the editor of it's magazine "The Crisis" which is still the oldest published "black" magazine was started by W.E.B. Dubois (whom my uncle worked for as a valet to pay his way through college back in the 1940's).

So I actually know a lot about the NAACP, and have had many of my relatives active in chapters. Doing the day to day work not as a "white liberal" but as actual "Coloerd People."

Really? Tell me what you know about the beginnings of the NAACP (here's a freebie, it was actually founded mostly by non-blacks), and then I'll tell you what I know, and we'll exchange notes. No Wikipedia.

This comment just proves the point I made. Someone has a different viewpoint and now out comes the "you really don't know what is going on." I guess you will probably resort to the same name calling that the person did at the NAACP rally.

NAACP did great work in the past. Men like Walter White (look it up) and others were in the forefront of ending the segregation that was in America. Where I think it has fallen these days, is still clining to the same old mantras about the evils of "whitey." Does racism still exist in the US, yes. But the way to combat it is to make sure that blacks (and other Coloreds) focus improving their lives by getting better educations, and opening business opportunities, and not just crying that someone white hates them and expect a handout.

motogaijin, since you know so much, can you give me the words to "Lift Every Voice and Sing?"

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Everything is about race with black Americans and the NAACP. They would be well served to take a hard look at themselves and evaluate their own behavior and faults instead of blaming everything on white people.

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tea party = watered down modern KKK

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It certainly would be refreshing if the NAACP took a good hard look at itself to realize that they are the ones who tolerate bigotry, but then again I reckon supporting all black schools is not discriminatory at all.

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The final wording of the resolution won’t be released until the NAACP’s national board of directors approves it during its meeting in October.

Then there just isn't much to talk about is there? But it does look like they are NOT accusing the whole Tea Party of being racist. It looks like they are accusing the Tea Party of letting racists in the club. Big difference there. Unfortunately they did not name the racists yet. Given that void, all Tea Partiers are going to take umbrage, no matter how stupid they look doing so now and not waiting for October.

But if David Duke joined the Tea Party, should we blame the Tea Party? Can they somehow exclude David Duke and do it legally? Could the Republicans? Have the Republicans been similarly chastized for David Duke by the NAACP?

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American politics is just a ridiculous, polarised mud-slinging match. And as a mildly amused independent observer with no axe to grind, I can say that supporters of the Democrats are the more infantile in their abuse.

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Sarah Palin is fantastic. I hope she never leaves the US comedy scene.

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A whole organization based on race calling another organization racist. Too funny.

RR

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That just goes to show that the NAACP has strayed far from its original beginnings. When a Black man can't even disagree with the so called "party line."

More from the Uncle Ruckus ("no relation") school of argument.

Disagreeing with people is one thing. Walking over to shake the hands of people who portray the president as an African witch-doctor and who spit on black lawmakers, without condemning or deploring those acts, is another.

That there is a virulent anti-immigrant, anti-foreigner strain in the Tea Party, that neatly intersects with feelings of white entitlement and supremacy, there is little doubt. I understand well why the Uncle Ruckuses of the world want to join them.

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RomeoRamenII said: A whole organization based on race calling another organization racist. Too funny.

What is too funny is that you especially just can't wait for October.

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"National Association for the Advancement of Colored People"

Can you imagine if there was a National Association for the Advancement of White People or Asian People or Hispanic People?

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I recommend disbanding the NAACP and replacing it with the National Association for the Advancement of Hard Working People ( NAAHWP ).

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That there is a virulent anti-immigrant, anti-foreigner strain in the Tea Party, that neatly intersects with feelings of white entitlement and supremacy, there is little doubt. I understand well why the Uncle Ruckuses of the world want to join them.

yabits, must we do this again? You calling me "Uncle Rukus" is really not germaine to the issue. Just like my origianl posting of this subject with the St. Louis branch of the NAACP calling a black man who was beaten at a Tea Party event by other blacks an Uncle Tom.

Disagreeing with people is one thing. Walking over to shake the hands of people who portray the president as an African witch-doctor and who spit on black lawmakers, without condemning or deploring those acts, is another.

I don't see where the Tea Party as an organization has endorsed the negative images of Obama. However, I do remember seeing images of Blacks in the Bush administration as being portrayed as an "Aunt Jemima" (Condelezza Rice). Or, I remember a polictal cartoonist who made reference to "W" as a caricture of the story book moneky "Curious George" (it was rather funny too).

But I do see members of the New Black Panther Party making racial comments about killing all white people and their babies, and how the very same person who was charged (and aquitted) with standing in front of a polling place in Philadelphia making states his hatred for white people. If the NAACP actually made a resolution to condemn his comments and the New Black Panther party, then I would say they aer being fair. But just because a few in the Tea Party have made negative comments about the President and now all people associated with it are racist is not being fair and balanced.

So does that mean, if any of the New Black Panther Party members attends any NAACP events then they entire NAACP is racist.

And by the way yabits, how many NAACP conventions or any of the national Black civil rights and professional societies conventions have you attended? The last time I have counted I myself have been to about 7. And I didn't even have to do a "soft shoe shuffle."

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It was probably a group of democrats that formed a "tea party" club and then put up the sign to cause trouble. I read something about this last winter. The Democrats were promising to do such. There is no central tea party as such and anyone can form a group. Investigation should reveal the truth one way or another. Sarge, I agree with you for once.

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Can you imagine if there was a National Association for the Advancement of White People...?

There is; it is known as the "OB Network."

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@Sarge " I recommend disbanding the NAACP and replacing it with the National Association for the Advancement of Hard Working People ( NAAHWP )."

Love it!

"Can you imagine if there was a National Association for the Advancement of White People or Asian People or Hispanic People?"

Stereotypically asians are yellow and hispanics are brown, therefore they're covered as being colored. White is an absence of pigmentation, therefore there is no coverage under the banner NAACP. I believe in the U.S. they have a group for whites, I believe its called the Republican Party. HTH

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I don't see where the Tea Party as an organization has endorsed the negative images of Obama. However, I do remember seeing images of Blacks in the Bush administration as being portrayed as an "Aunt Jemima" (Condelezza Rice).

Then you just aren't looking very hard, are you?

In the news today, a Tea Party group in Iowa pasted up giant billboard equating President Obama with Adolf Hitler. So much for the Tea Party not endorsing negative images.

What Democratic/liberal group endorsed the portrait of Rice that you speak of? If some unaffiliated individual artist made such a picture, so be it -- I don't endorse it, but that's freedom of speech. If a group I was part of did it, I would most likely disassociate myself with them no matter how much I might agree with them on other issues -- unless, that is, the saner heads within the group took down the poster and made it a point to forbid expressions like that.

If a black person refused to do similarly, I can well understand how another black person would call them a Tom, no matter how many national conventions and societies they were part of.

Your bringing up the Black Panther Party is ludicrous. There is no association between the NAACP and the Panthers, and nowhere I've seen the NAACP defending their actions or shaking hands with them in solidarity.

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@ramses68 - The Republican Party National Committee Chairman is Michael Steele. He's black.

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yabits, must we do this again? You calling me "Uncle Rukus" is really not germaine to the issue. Just like my origianl posting of this subject with the St. Louis branch of the NAACP calling a black man who was beaten at a Tea Party event by other blacks an Uncle Tom.

There is a "good fight" to be fought out there. And then there are the Quislings.

To provide an example that relates to the NAACP, one of the greatest tolerances of bigotry of the past 50 years was the loud and vociferous support by the conservative movement in the US of "constructive engagement" with the former apartheid regime of South Africa, and their total opposition of economic sanctions. (Led at the time by Reagan and his cronies.)

This is important, because for the quislings, the Toms and the Ruckuses of every race and creed, money will ALWAYS trump every other value. The issues of the world boil down to how this one or that one impacts their own pocket, and they'll sell everything else away for a few extra pieces of silver. (Donating to the UNCF does not exonerate anything.)

I was extremely active in the anti-apartheid movement and helped lead a drive within the company I worked for -- a very large multinational -- to force the complete divestiture (via stockholders' resolution) of its SA holdings. Many employees joined in support. But I do recall very, very well the many black employees who, when asked, did not -- and their excuses for doing so. It got so I could spot the quislings a mile away.

The same conservative spirit that supported the apartheid regime is alive and well in the Tea Party today, for anyone who has eyes to see and a lick of common sense in their heads.

Attending an NAACP meeting, by the way, puts nothing on the line.

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Your bringing up the Black Panther Party is ludicrous. There is no association between the NAACP and the Panthers, and nowhere I've seen the NAACP defending their actions or shaking hands with them in solidarity.

yabits, if there is no association between the Black Panther Party and the NAACP does that mean that the NAACP can't denouce their open racism and bigotry? If you use your logic, then the NAACP should not be denouncing the Tea Party since clearly there is no clear relationship between the Tea Party and the NAACP.

There is no national "Tea Party" chairman. They could be considered mostly as groups in different locations that have assocaitions with the Republican party. They may meet as a group, but since you are so sure that they are an organized political party, tell me who is their National Chairman?

Also, if you did a bit of research you would find that there are 31 Blacks on the Republican ticket this year running for Congress, numbers that haven't been that high for Republicans since Reconstruction, and it would seem that many of them have been getting support from the so called "Tea Party." I guess Michael Steele is doing something.

I don't endorse it, but that's freedom of speech

Yes it is, and that is what some people who may have made derogatory pictues of Obama have the right to do.

In the news today, a Tea Party group in Iowa pasted up giant billboard equating President Obama with Adolf Hitler. So much for the Tea Party not endorsing negative images.

This one is too easy. Just do a google search and you can see artilces (I'll help you out with this one) from Jan 2004 that MoveOn.org showing how they made a television ad with Hitler's speeches in the background with images of Bush being shown. You can find a lot more if you do a Google pictures search of Bush as Hitler.

Where was the outcry from the NAACP then. After all, we are talking about the disresecting of the nation's President, or does that only count now since Obama is Black?

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This one is too easy. Just do a google search and you can see artilces

LOL!! Yes, it is.

You said the Tea Party did not endorse negative images. The fact is that the Tea Party in Iowa paid for and endorsed a VERY LARGE negative image. Unlike a small poster, putting up a billboard requires time, effort, planning and money from lots of people.

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You said the Tea Party did not endorse negative images. The fact is that the Tea Party in Iowa paid for and endorsed a VERY LARGE negative image

Link and prove please.......

In the meantime I'll take this guy's opinion over a Liberals each and every time.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kpUlFM2304U&feature=channel

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Link and prove please.......

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_iowa_obama_billboard

the meantime I'll take this guy's opinion over a Liberals each and every time

That's why some of the people can be fooled all of the time.

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You said the Tea Party did not endorse negative images. The fact is that the Tea Party in Iowa paid for and endorsed a VERY LARGE negative image. Unlike a small poster, putting up a billboard requires time, effort, planning and money from lots of people.

So yabits, then you don't think that it was bad for an organization like MoveOn.org to run commercials portraying Bush as Hitler, the same organization that endorsed Obama. Once again by using your logic of guilt by association, Obama and the whole Democratic party should be held for some of the actions of MoveOn. Do you agree, and shouldn't the NAACP be making resolutions against that? After all, during WW2 one of the NAACP's main publicity drives was for the "Double V" Victory abroad fighing Facism and Victory at home fighting discrimination in America.

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Yabits,

umm your link.. seems most folks in the Tea Party didn't care for it either.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/usiowaobama_billboard

"The purpose of the billboard was to draw attention to the socialism. It seems to have been lost in the visuals," Johnson said. "The pictures overwhelmed the message. The message is socialism." He said he didn't know of any plans to remove the sign.

But others in the tea party movement criticized the sign.

"That's just a waste of money, time, resources and it's not going to further our cause," said Shelby Blakely, a leaders of the Tea Party Patriots, a national group. "It's not going to help our cause. It's going to make people think that the tea party is full of a bunch of right-wing fringe people, and that's not true."

Blakely also expressed outrage at linking Obama to Hitler, the leader of Nazi Germany who oversaw the killing of 6 million Jews and whose invasions of neighboring countries led to World War II.

"When you compare Obama to Hitler, that to me does a disservice to the Jews who both survived and died in the Holocaust and to the Germans who lived under Nazi regime rule," Blakely said.

This comment on the video

That's why some of the people can be fooled all of the time.

You're not implying African Americans are you? After all he is the one voicing his opinion.

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So yabits, then you don't think that it was bad for an organization like MoveOn.org to run commercials portraying Bush as Hitler

Your conservative sources are lying to you.

Repeating lies causes others to ask whether one is deluded or a willing accomplice. If a news source lied to me like that, I would denounce them. Because they're just as likely to try to defend the tolerance of bigotry in addition to the many other lies being spouted by the Tea Party.

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The purpose of the billboard was to draw attention to the socialism. It seems to have been lost in the visuals," Johnson said. "The pictures overwhelmed the message. The message is socialism." He said he didn't know of any plans to remove the sign

WAAAAHAAAAAHAAAAAA!!

And we want people with that kind of judgment in leadership positions?

Bigotry is closely aligned with gross ignorance and fear-mongering -- and the Tea Party demonstrates it has all of those in spades. (No pun intended.)

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The issues of the world boil down to how this one or that one impacts their own pocket, and they'll sell everything else away for a few extra pieces of silver.

I think you have this all wrong. If money was the only factor in decision making than discrimination would be a thing of the past. We would only hire those who work hardest for the least ammount of compensation, or that didn't complain about benefits. Greed is good (my friend Gordon will tell you as much) and when the only color you see is green than race just doesn't matter anymore.

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Yabits,

Start denouncing:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=obkLbT-NTXI

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"It's not going to help our cause. It's going to make people think that the tea party is full of a bunch of right-wing fringe people, and that's not true."

Of course it's not true. It's only a coincidence that right-wing fringe people are drawn to the Tea Party like moths to a flame, like David Duke to the Republicans in Louisiana.

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Of course it's not true. It's only a coincidence that right-wing fringe people are drawn to the Tea Party like moths to a flame, like David Duke to the Republicans in Louisiana.

Just like "Code Pink" and Marxists are drawn to the Democratic Party right Yabits?

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Sailwind,

The video clearly shows that the ad was not created or endorsed by MoveOn. It was created by an individual contributor much in the same manner as comments on this website and removed by MoveOn moderators. In short, Dick Armey is a liar.

This is in complete contrast to the Tea Party of Northern Iowa, who, as a group, worked together to associate themselves with the image and PAID to have the presented to the public.

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Just like "Code Pink" and Marxists are drawn to the Democratic Party right Yabits?

Far more likely than not to protest against some Democratic policy. Some people are just so bigotted against Democrats and liberals that no lie is too big for them to spread.

Big lie....hmmmm.

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Big lie....hmmmm.

As the same one that your trying to sell that the Tea Party is 'racist'.

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the same one that your trying to sell that the Tea Party is 'racist'.

This is what is known as the "straw man."

Very few parties or political organizations in the world could be classified as truly "racist" today. That is not the same thing as saying there are no racist elements within them. Racists and bigots are very much alive and well in the world today.

It gets more insidious: Every party wants supporters. And so when the racists and bigots gravitate towards a group that they believe represents more of what they believe than any other party, a group that is being honest with themselves would have to do some self-examination to find out why the racists and bigots are so attracted to them.

What the group does from that point determines whether or not they are seen as "tolerating bigotry." The NAACP has not attracted groups like the Black Panthers to itself in the way the Tea Party has attracted disaffected whites. (An updated version of the "southern strategy" whereby the Republican Party actively sought out and largely won the support of southern bigots and racists.)

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If one just relied on the mainstream media or as sarah would denote, MSM, I can see how the Tea Party is getting labeled as a racist organization. Truth be told, unless you go to one of these rallies yourselves and experience first hand on what they are so angry about, then you really have no room to talk. Most the of the soundbites mention on this thread are pure sensationalism. Dick Armey and Tom Trancedo are sweethearts of the MSM. And sensationalism really sells because the populace is so lazy now a days that they dont even bother anymore to really go out fight for what they want. Not like in the past. Grassroots is not what it used to be.

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"Local tea party organizers disputed claims of racism and called on the NAACP to withdraw the resolution." Well, if there's no racism, why the need to withdraw a resolution condemning it?

Because smith if you read the story you would have known that the resolution condemned racism within the tea party, the tea party disputes that there is racism within the group, as a result they want the resolution withdrawn because the resolution is considered a false accusation of racism within the tea party.

If the tea party approved resolution condemning racism within the NAACP you would probably hear the NAACP making demands from the tea party to withdraw the resolution.

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"as a result they want the resolution withdrawn because the resolution is considered a false accusation of racism within the tea party."

Then why not just come out and say it. False accusation? Oh brother. Why not take the wind out of the NAACP's sails? What's the problem? Make a resolution condemning racism and resolve the issue. Can the tea party just state for the record that it does not tolerate racism among its members? Of course it should not HAVE to, but why not? Seems like talking about it takes more time than doing it. If they really want to be clever, the Tea Party should say to the NAACP, "We will if you will." and then the ball will be in the NAACP's court and somebody will look absurd. Probably everybody. But there you are.

Am I the first person in the whole world to think of that?

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No. But the NAACP can always claim slavery like they did when the Virginia governor proclaimed the gentle southern folk proclomation or whatever that was.

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But the NAACP can always claim slavery like they did when the Virginia governor proclaimed the gentle southern folk proclomation or whatever that was.

LOL!! Yes, whatever that was...

It was a governor proclaiming "Confederate History Month" and failing to make any mention of the fact that Confederate history was built upon the back of slave labor. Shame on the NAACP for bringing up that tiny ommission.

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The sad thing about this is, that the NAACP contains far more racist elements then the Tea Party does. From the very leadership to many of its core members, its has long since veered from its primary mission, and now is involving itself in attempting to denounce an organization whose primary goal is reducing the size and scope of government. Its not about the color of skin, but how much money you're spending.

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Bigotry IS still alive and well in America, and it's found primarily in the NAACP and other like-minded organizations -- like the New Black Panthers -- that promote and cash in on the racial divide.

RR

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The sad thing about this is, that the NAACP contains far more racist elements then the Tea Party does.

If the NAACP contains far more racist elements, examples should be easy to provide. Where are they?

It is rather obvious that the Tea Party contains elements that are utterly deluded and dishonest in addition to the bigotry.

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Then why not just come out and say it.

Because they already have Klein2, they already have stated on the issue that it does not tolerate racism among its members. Keep in mind though the tea party is not an organization that is centralized but it has come out several times saying they are not racist.

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It is rather obvious that the Tea Party contains elements that are utterly deluded and dishonest in addition to the bigotry.

That is true for every single organization/company/charity/government in the entire world man, I mean way to state the obvious about every single one of them I mean the NAACP also has elements that are utterly deluded and dishonest in addition to their bigotry.

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"Bigotry IS still alive and well in America, and it's found primarily in the NAACP and other like-minded organizations -- like the New Black Panthers -- that promote and cash in on the racial divide."

Cashing in on the racial divide created by whom? Blacks didn't create a racial divide and if creating a group that tries to create solidarity and growth in light of oppression amongst like people (all minorities - CP) is bigoted then we all must be bigots. I can't believe you would say that bigotry is found PRIMARILY in the NAACP. That is absolutely crazy. I can see them being corrupt or something, but the nature of the organization is to help the historically oppressed, not create more oppression.

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I mean the NAACP also has elements that are utterly deluded and dishonest in addition to their bigotry.

If that is true, it is nowhere near the level of so many of the Tea Party supporters who post here.

Blacks didn't create a racial divide...

True. White supremacists and segregationists did. Now, their offspring are blaming blacks for being on the other side of it.

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American politics has turned into Jerry Springer meets American Idol. Not good for the future of the country. Better leadership will be needed to address real issues down the road.

Actually I don't really blame the politicians and interest groups as much as I do the general public. Why do they buy into all the stupid games? Aren't they smarter than getting caught up in a bunch of BS? Then again, why do so many people watch Jerry Springer and American Idol?

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Who cares what the NAACP thinks or says.. not me.

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The Dems and NAACP and other groups can say what they want. The Dems will loose in Nov big time.

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Funny how the NAACP, a racially specific organization, can accuse anyone of bigotry or racism.

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According to the NAACP's political view and theology, a person not born black automatically makes them a racist. So for them to say what they already believe in doesn't bother me one way or another. However, there are still a few guilt ridden white liberals out there who willingly lap up this type of vomit the NAACP spews. Heh, the race baiters within the Civil Rights industry depends on them.

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It is interesting to note that while the NAACP condemns the Tea Party movement for supposed racism, they saw no need to go on record to criticize the New Black Panther Party for voter intimidation that actually occurred.

RR

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There is a difference in the ideas of Booker T. Washington and ideas that the NAACP was founded on, which are the ideas of W. E. B. Du Bois. The ideas of Du Bois are certainly not about integration, and that means they sometimes promote segregation in the weak minded. Not only some posters here, but there are also weak minded people in the NAACP, so there is some danger in the ideas of Du Bois. Thankfully, I believe his ideas are not becoming anachronistic, and may be doing more harm than good today. That means we have come a long way. Heck, even the name of the org is anachronistic. Advancement of colored people? How much more do blacks need to advance? Is a black nobility the next step?

In short, those claim the NAACP is racist do have a point, but as usual, they make far too much of it and try to use it to excuse others.

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Should be "now becoming anachronistic" above.

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According to the NAACP's political view and theology, a person not born black automatically makes them a racist. So for them to say what they already believe in doesn't bother me one way or another. However, there are still a few guilt ridden white liberals out there who willingly lap up this type of vomit the NAACP spews.

Wow. Talk about your bitter, angry people.

The NAACP by no means carries anything similar to the viewpoint that if you're not born black you're automatically a racist. This may be a widely held view of the supporters of the Tea Party.

What's amazing to me is how the people who supposedly see racism so "clearly" in the NAACP are so blind to the toleration of it in the Tea Party.

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If that is true, it is nowhere near the level of so many of the Tea Party supporters who post here.

yabits, just to make sure that you may one day get it, take a look at the article about Black Tea Partiers rebut NAACP (http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0710/39729.html)

It even has comments from a Black man running for Congress from Arizona (you know that racist state that is going to start identifying all brown people to see if they are legal citizens).

So I guess according to your viewpoint, all the people mentioned in the article that are Black are just like what you enjoy calling me, a bunch of "Uncle Rukus'."

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Alphaape, you said that you have some familiarity with the NAACP.

I want to know clearly from you whether or not you share the belief that the NAACP's political view and "theology" [sic] holds that if you're not born black, you're automatically a racist.

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yabits, just to make sure that you may one day get it, take a look at the article about Black Tea Partiers rebut NAACP

I read the article.

The rebuttals are misguided. The NAACP has accused the Tea Party of tolerating bigotry, not of being bigotted themselves.

And here we see Tea Party supporters/sympathizers asserting, among other things, that the NAACP believes that if you're not born black, you're a racist. This is bigotry, pure and simple, as well as dishonest. And I haven't yet seen a word of rebuttal from anyone defending the Tea Party.

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Nobody, outside of that room, really cares what the NAACP says anymore. They are just the racist arm of the Democratic Party.

RR

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yabits, Unlike you I can make a decision for myself. As I have mentioned I have been to a few conventions, and I have not agreed with everything they have made resolutions for. Should they place more emphasis on stopping Black on Black crime (Blacks make up 13% of US population, but 39% of criminal convictions are of Blacks and you are more than likely to be killed by another Black than a white), but they don't seem to be pushing that agenda.

Has the NAACP done great things in the past, yes. Have they strayed of the path and just become a PAC for the Democratic party, I beleive so.

So, I have no problem to disagree with some aspects of the NAACP. But, you it seems can't handle the fact that a person can have the option to make up their own opinion based on reason and logic and not just following a party blindly based on a factor such as race or political affiliation.

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The Rev. C.L. Bryant, a black Tea Party activist who's a former NAACP chapter president in Texas, said the NAACP wants to "create a climate where they can say that those on the right are in fact racist and those on the left are their saviors. This is very much what the liberal agenda is about."

In yabits-o-vision, Rev. Bryant is another "Uncle Ruckus".

RR

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Tea-partiers tolerating racism in order to maintain

diverse group of folks who are upset with what is going on with this country ?

Nah! That's like saying the Republican party tolerates fundamentalist Christian bigots in order to compete with the Democrats for votes. Couldn't possibly happen.

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So, I have no problem to disagree with some aspects of the NAACP.

So, Alphaape, it would appear that you do not agree with your fellow Tea Party supporter that the "theology" of the NAACP asserts that if you weren't born black you must be racist -- which would mean that the NAACP is therefore a racist organization: "the racist arm of the Democratic Party" as your comrade has stated.

Now, I happen to find those statements to be an example of bigotry which the Tea Party supporters here certainly seem to tolerate just fine.

Rev. Bryant is another "Uncle Ruckus".

You're catching on.

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If that is true, it is nowhere near the level of so many of the Tea Party supporters who post here.

Who are the people on here who say they are tea party members? How many black people post here on this website?

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Memo to the NAACP and its supporters: Andrew Breitbart is offering $100K to anyone who can produce any evidence that the Tea Party is bigoted. One would think a race-baiting, welfare-promoting organization or its followers could have easily collected the $100K and the widely aired MSM recognition by now. Hmm.... must be a reason why no one has ben able to step up to claim that cash and adulation from the left.

RR

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Memo to the NAACP and its supporters: Andrew Breitbart is offering $100K to anyone who can produce any evidence that the Tea Party is bigoted. One would think a race-baiting, welfare-promoting organization or its followers could have easily collected the $100K and the widely aired MSM recognition by now. Hmm.... must be a reason why no one has ben able to step up to claim that cash and adulation from the left.

RR, so true. A good post.

yabits,

it would appear that you do not agree with your fellow Tea Party supporter that the "theology" of the NAACP asserts that if you weren't born black you must be racist -- which would mean that the NAACP is therefore a racist organization: "the racist arm of the Democratic Party" as your comrade has stated.

you're not making any sense. If you look at my comments, you see that I don't agree with everything that the NAACP says. Just like with the Tea Party, I don't agree with all of their policies, but I have yet to hear them make an official announcment that they support sending all Blacks to Africa. So your point is moot.

So, I assume that in every organization you belong or find favor in, you go along with the entire program. You don't have any opinions on your own. You just follow the party line. Well if that is the case, I say you were one great apparatchik.

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Rev. Bryant is another "Uncle Ruckus".

You're catching on.

yabits, If you really watch The Boondocks, you will see that Uncle Rukus is just one way MacGruder is showing the sterotypes in the Black community. If you have watched some of the episodes, the exact way that the NAACP is acting in this case can be seen by how the characters act in the series.

So you see, he not only makes satire of the Uncle Rukus types, but also the types that could be best described as those at the NAACP who are making this resolution. But I think you probably don't see this, since it doesn't fit your agenda.

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And here we see Tea Party supporters/sympathizers asserting, among other things, that the NAACP believes that if you're not born black, you're a racist. This is bigotry, pure and simple, as well as dishonest. And I haven't yet seen a word of rebuttal from anyone defending the Tea Party.

No need to defend what is obvious on its face. Any organization that would defend either Jeremiah Wright or Louis Farrakhan is bigoted. It is a racist organization. Oh not all the members are, I have no doubt that there are still good people in the organization, but it has been taken over, and is now dominated by individuals that would use it to further their own political agenda. Not only do they ignore any evidence of non-white racism, they in some cases actively defend these individuals and groups. So, why should anyone apologize for calling the NAACP a racist and bigoted organization. You make your bed, and lie in it.

Contrast this with the complete and total lack of evidence supporting their claims. Where is the hate filled rhetoric, where are the venomous signs calling for Obama's death. Perhaps a death to all Negros sign. As opposed to a death to Whitey sign I saw at a rally by the Black Panthers several years ago. Or how about the a video showing the Tea Partiers actually using the racial slurs they are accused of. Hundreds of cameras an cell phones recording the moment, and yet they can't find any evidence to back up the claim. Lets turn this around, shall we? Yabits, prove to me that the NAACP isn't racist. Find me one link, just one, where they condemned someone for being racist, someone who happens to be black. Obviously they can't be conservative, because being a black conservative to them means being an Uncle Tom. All you need is one...

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Trying to attack the Tea Partiers by denouncing them as "racists" because of their principals, among other things a smaller federal government, is the only weapon the party of endless entitlements has in its arsenal to fight against them.

Now, the next step is using their political action organizations like the NAACP to do their dirty work.

The NAACP has long since lost its purpose and effectiveness. Resorting to striking out and labeling people would be the last thing MLK (who was a republican, BTW) would have them do.

RR

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RomeoRamenII said: Trying to attack the Tea Partiers by denouncing them as "racists"

Trying to attack the NAACP for something it never stated is a clear sign of a dishonest individual, especially as you have been told twice.

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Molenir said: Yabits, prove to me that the NAACP isn't racist.

Fat logic fail! A negative cannot be proven!

Find me one link, just one, where they condemned someone for being racist, someone who happens to be black.

Wasn't it just two weeks ago that you made a "just one" statement and had to eat it? I hope you learn this time, but I am not counting on it.

http://www.nydailynews.com/archives/news/2000/08/10/2000-08-10_naacp_leader_out_over_lieber.html

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RR, so true. A good post.

LOL!! Alphaape, can you read with understanding? (Apparently not.) The money is to be given to someone who can prove to this wackadoo that the Tea Party itself is bigotted. That's not what the NAACP is claiming. (And what makes him a wackadoo.) The NAACP claims that the bigotry demonstrated by supporters of the Tea Party is being tolerated by the party.

The NAACP's claims are amply proven in this thread: We've got a Tea Party supporter/defender slandering the NAACP and its membership by claiming that they actually believe that "if you're not born black, you're a racist." And we've got other Tea Party defenders either looking the other way or outright supporting it.

Just like with the Tea Party, I don't agree with all of their policies, but I have yet to hear them make an official announcment that they support sending all Blacks to Africa. So your point is moot.

If this is the sort of standard that one would have to pass to be seen as bigotted by you, no wonder you are where you are. (Without a clue.)

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So you see, he not only makes satire of the Uncle Rukus types, but also the types that could be best described as those at the NAACP who are making this resolution. But I think you probably don't see this, since it doesn't fit your agenda.

Oh, I certainly see it, and can agree that some of the individual actions of the NAACP can be fodder for satire. But there's a VAST difference between that and calling the NAACP itself a "racist organization," and claiming that they believe that if a person is not born black they're a racist is a grotesque distortion as well as a demonstration of bigotry.

Bigotry tolerated, by the way, by the many supporters of the Tea Party.

Ruckus indeed is a cartoon figure and stereotype, but it fits some people like a glove. I'm sure MacGruder would have a field day with the statement that the Tea Party is free from all bigotry since they haven't made a statement to ship all blacks back to Africa. Ruckus couldn't have put it any better.

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Bigotry tolerated, by the way, by the many supporters of the Tea Party.

Where is it 'tolerated' by many supporters of the Tea Party. That meme is getting old. The rallies, the speeches, where Yabits? The candidates they support like that Tim Scott guy in South Carolina?

Scott campaign manager Chris McClure says Scott represents "tea party" ideals. Scott won 32 percent of the primary vote; Thurmond got 16 percent.

http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Politics/2010/0615/Tim-Scott-Can-a-black-Republican-win-in-South-Carolina

As they say Yabits...show me the money.

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Yabits, prove to me that the NAACP isn't racist. Find me one link, just one, where they condemned someone for being racist, someone who happens to be black.

LOL!! The NAACP was formed largely in response to the practice of lynching -- a practice exclusively performed by whites on people of color.

There are just not many examples of where non-whites have acted in concert in America to brutalize a white person for no other reason than the color of his skin.

Nevertheless, in 1993, the LA chapter of the NAACP condemned the brutal beating of truck driver Reginald Denny by a group of black men, equating them to a "lynch mob." It's not a stretch to tie the words "lynch mob" to its racist undertones.

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Any organization that would defend either Jeremiah Wright or Louis Farrakhan is bigoted.

The NAACP as an organization has never "defended" Louis Farrakhan, who is a racist. The organization internally convulsed when its former president (and now Nation of Islam member) Ben Chavis reached out to join with his "Million Man March." I don't believe the NAACP has had any dealings with him or the NoI since that time -- and they certainly haven't defended him.

I don't know why the NAACP would have to defend or condemn Wright. I've seen a lot of the quotes that many whites claim are racist, and can't see what is racist about them at all.

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Yabits,

I guess I'll have to show you the money instead.

Add Florida Republican Allen West to the list of bomb-throwing political personalities raising cash off their knack for connecting with the country's most exercised activists.

West, a former Army colonel challenging Democratic Rep. Ron Klein, raised $1.4 million in the second quarter of 2010 – an astonishing number that puts him in the same league as Minnesota Rep. Michele Bachmann, the inflammatory conservative who raked in $1.7 million over the same period, and Florida Rep. Alan Grayson, the caustic liberal cable news fixture who vacuumed up $800,000 in the first three months of 2010.

Republican officials expect West's haul to be the largest of any non-incumbent GOP candidate for the last three months. It brings his overall fundraising for the cycle to $3.5 million and he ended June with $2.2 million on hand.

While West lacks the official platform that Bachmann and Grayson have used to raise money at record rates, he has emerged as something of a conservative hero this cycle. Former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin has endorsed him and a YouTube video of a West speech to a tea party event last October has been viewed more than two million times.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0710/39541.html

Oh and he just happens to be an American of African descent also.

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yabits writes:

the tolerance of bigotry in addition to the many other lies being spouted by the Tea Party.

and this:

Bigotry is closely aligned with gross ignorance and fear-mongering -- and the Tea Party demonstrates it has all of those in spades

and this:

What's amazing to me is how the people who supposedly see racism so "clearly" in the NAACP are so blind to the toleration of it in the Tea Party.

And this:

Bigotry tolerated, by the way, by the many supporters of the Tea Party.

Come on, dude, time to put up or shut up. Andrew Breitbart is offering you $100K to produce any evidence that the Tea Party is bigoted.

Happy hunting.

RR

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sailwind asked: Where is it 'tolerated' by many supporters of the Tea Party. That meme is getting old. The rallies, the speeches, where Yabits?

That would mostly be in the general SILENCE um, everywhere. But its hard to be specific since the NAACP has yet it issue a CLEAR STATEMENT naming names.

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Come on, dude, time to put up or shut up. Andrew Breitbart is offering you $100K to produce any evidence that the Tea Party is bigoted.

Third time now. That was NOT what the NAACP said!

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Oh and [LT COL Allen West] just happens to be an American of African descent also.

I wonder if Mr. West would come out and call the NAACP a "racist organization."

I just viewed a video of West telling a crowd of people that getting his Army commission had nothing (!) to do with the government making anything possible for him. The man is grossly ignorant of history and is nothing but a demagogue who tries to pull the strings of the ignorant crowd around him.

The kind of bigotry that West represents and which the Tea Party not only tolerates but cheers on can't be defined as purely racial. The logic of the argument put forth by Tea Party supporters appears to be: "See? We've even got some black folks who have joined us; how can we be bigotted towards African-Americans?"

The homage that West pays to the founding fathers demonstrates he doesn't have a serious thought in his head. After all, the founding fathers regarded people like West as sub-human and would have killed any black man trying to gain his liberty from a slave-holder -- which many of the founders were themselves.

The bigotry that the Tea Party endorses is much more fundamental and is typified by West's speeches: "Let's create two groups and call one the 'loyal patriot' group and the other one the 'enemy group'." Let's ignore the fact that the people in the "enemy group" are Americans just as the so-called, self-syled "patriots" are.

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between that and calling the NAACP itself a "racist organization," and claiming that they believe that if a person is not born black they're a racist is a grotesque distortion as well as a demonstration of bigotry.

yabits, you need to stop sipping on the political Kool-aide from the far left. I never said that the entire NAACP is a racist organization. I wrote that it has done good things in the past, but has fallen away from that and become nothing more than a shill for the Dem party.

Some of the members of the NAACP may have racist attitudes I will say that. So if some members can say blanket statements that the Tea Party is full of racists, and those who don't subscribe to their thinking are Uncle Toms then that is racist.

When Trent Lott made his comments, the NAACP was out in front. When Rev. Wright's speech was broadcast over and over, you never heard the NAACP condeming his statements or saying that the Liberty Church should denounce him. Yet, if supposedly a person makes statements that are negative to the Dem party or the President, then they will let fly the racist chant.

I thought that Obama was supposed to bring America into the post racial world. A world where we didn't have to subscribe to the same old belief systems. So does that mean only if we follow his agenda.

just viewed a video of West telling a crowd of people that getting his Army commission had nothing (!) to do with the government making anything possible for him. The man is grossly ignorant of history and is nothing but a demagogue who tries to pull the strings of the ignorant crowd around him.

So you are saying that Lt Col West was not smart enough on his own to get his Army commission, he needed the help of the Govt? Don't even try that. I know full well the history of the struggle of Blacks in the US military and their fight for equality, myslef being an Officer just like him. Yes he gov't did help end segregation as an institution in the Armed Services. So that men like him could achieve based on their skills and abilities, not just because they were of a certain color.

But I guess that type of thinking will get me another "Uncle Rukus" label.

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At the end of the day that poster put up by certain adherents to the tea party was childish and ridiculously over the top - American politics in a nutshell.

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Alphaape:

I never said that the entire NAACP is a racist organization.

No. A Tea Party defender made that bigotted statement and you, another Tea Party defender who specifically mentioned his past affiliation with the NAACP, stood by and tolerated it. That's what this thread is about!

Also, in defending the Tea Party, you made a false statement (knowingly or unknowingly) about MoveOn.org. I never saw a retraction or correction, which is what people of integrity do when shown their statements have no basis in fact.

you are saying that Lt Col West was not smart enough on his own to get his Army commission, he needed the help of the Govt?

No. I am saying that Mr. West doesn't appear to acknowledge that the Army is a government program. And it was the casting off of bigotry by the armed forces and enabled people from all races to advance within it. But at no time in all of the Army's history, did it ever admit to being a bigotted organization or tolerating bigotry -- even though it clearly did!

The same is true of many Tea Party supporters today. If I were a Tea Party member concerned about the image and message my group is trying to project, I would move swiftly to counter or correct anyone claiming to support the Tea Party who makes obviously bigotted statements about the NAACP. Instead of attacking the people who point out the obvious denial and hypocrisy.

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Trying to attack the Tea Partiers by denouncing them as "racists" because of their principals, among other things a smaller federal government, is the only weapon the party of endless entitlements has in its arsenal to fight against them.

It is great that that is NOT what they are doing. Spin it when you don't like it, baby!

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It is great that that is NOT what they are doing. Spin it when you don't like it, baby!

Really? Wheres the racism? Or as JM would say, show me the money! Wheres the evidence? Yabits goes on and on defending the NAACP by claiming repeatedly that the Tea Party is racist. Yet he never gives any evidence to support this. Contrast this with the mountain of evidence against his position. Everything from Blacks and Democrats in and leading the Tea Party, to the simple fact that despite months of efforts, and a hundred thousand dollar reward, they still can't find the tape proving someone was spouting racial slurs. This suggests the opposite from what the dialog is. So, with no evidence to support the NAACP's claim, you have to ask, why did they do this? The answer is simple, because they have ceased to be a positive organization, and now are simple shills for the Democratic party. A party which is increasingly desperate. They've already just about conceded the house, and more and more, its looking possible they might even lose the Senate. Something I would never have thought possible even a few months ago.

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Yet he never gives any evidence to support this.

First of all, I never said the Tea Party itself is racist. I have said that racists flock to the Tea Party and the Tea Party does not do much to dissuade their bigotry.

For ample evidence, consider the following link. Especially the video of the guy with the confederate flag and the tea bag hanging from his glasses.

http://www.philly2philly.com/politics_community/politics_community_articles/2010/3/21/43497/tea_party_has_become_movementracism

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Your link doesn't work.

However I'll take your word that it does indeed lead to a link with a guy holding up a racist sign at a tea party rally. I've actually seen that myself. The guy holding up the racist sign, alongside him is always someone else holding up a sign saying, Dem Party infiltrator, Not affiliated with the Tea Party. You remember awhile back that teacher who got fired for arranging things like this. Creating a group to infiltrate the Tea Party. Well, actually he lost his job for using school computers to run his organization, but the point is he was a Democratic Party Operative, who was attempting to infiltrate it, in order to give it a bad name. I've seen lots of pictures of those kinds of people.

Seriously though, here is the truth. Since what the Tea Party is all about, is economics, not race, its a no brainer that the organization itself, is not racist. Anyone saying it is, is either a kool-aid drinker, a shill for the Democrats, or simply lacks enough intelligence to walk.

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Anyone saying it is, is either a kool-aid drinker, a shill for the Democrats, or simply lacks enough intelligence to walk.

Or, all of the above.

RR

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in 1993, the LA chapter of the NAACP condemned the brutal beating of truck driver Reginald Denny by a group of black men, equating them to a "lynch mob."

Wow, yabits had to go 17 years in a feeble attempt to support his beloved NAACP.

Meanwhile, here the the 21st century this is what the modern NAACP is doing to "help" blacks.

Last August, Kenneth Gladney, a black Missouri Tea Partier, was severely beaten by two SEIU thugs. The NAACP's response? It started a campaign to defend Gladney's assailants, saying the victim was an "Uncle Tom" who was "not black enough" to protect.

Just goes to prove that a black showing any signs of independent thinking do so without the support of yabit's NAACP.

RR

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Last August, Kenneth Gladney, a black Missouri Tea Partier, was severely beaten by two SEIU thugs.

A "severe" beating would certainly lead to criminal charges. The following video shows what a lie this whole thing is, and how unprincipled this Gladney and his Tea Party-supporting buffoons are:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gK0eFXa1nX4&feature=fvw

When an out-and-out liar tells you the Tea Party doesn't tolerate bigotry, would you believe him?

Rather than place criminal charges against the assailants, which would be normal in the case of a genuine assault, Gladney, in true conservative hypocritical fashion, has filed a civil tort lawsuit against the entire union seeking a big payout.

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However I'll take your word that it does indeed lead to a link with a guy holding up a racist sign at a tea party rally. I've actually seen that myself.

LOL! Plenty of signs and plenty of rallies:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S38VioxnBaI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2LMmx-znVZc

And plenty of sheer ignorance, upon which all bigotry and hate is based:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fE8GgXv3D64&

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Who cares what the NAACP says?

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Yabits!

Love your links!

I have to admit you are right. I found a link also that shows some old white guy putting some black guy in his place at a tea party rally also. Sad to see em upstage him.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f9_bP219ehQ

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I hereby launch the NAAHWP - the National Association for the Advancement of Hard Working People, whether they be black, white, Asian, Hispanic, Vulcan, Klingon...

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I found a link also that shows some old white guy putting some black guy in his place at a tea party rally also. Sad to see em upstage him.

It's actually rather sad to see so many "patriots" unaware that Key wrote several other verses to a poem I learned at age 8. (It's no wonder that the other verses are not emphasized, as the "freemen" of verse 4 stand in stark contrast to the "hireling and slave" of verse 3.)

The following shows a conservative type who swears he's not a racist, just as so many conservative here deny it, protesting a major tea party issue -- while the NAACP expresses a concern and the local conservative officials maintain a position of silent tolerance and approval:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TI3EW1ApbyY

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I hereby launch the NAAHWP - the National Association for the Advancement of Hard Working People

Would your motto be: "Help us to use our brains so that we can advance ourselves by working smarter!"

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Did you also see that he was a Crash the Tea Party drone, and that the proud racist was driven out of the Tea Party protest he was trying to infiltrate? I suspect, that a lot of the so called racists attending Tea Party events are the same. They know the dialog, they aren't really racists, what they are, are people who are trying to provide the requisite spin. To give traction to individuals like yourself to brand the Tea Party as racist. After all, thats all you've got. You can't attack the Tea Party for their ideas. The vast majority of Americans agree with them, and since thats the case, you pull the race card, and attack them with the biggest club you've got. Sad, but thats politics in America. No evidence, no problem, just send in your operatives to manufacture it.

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Was reading online when I came accross this Gem. It so well refutes the NAACPs baseless charges, that I'll simply provide the link...

http://biggovernment.com/lmeyers/2010/07/15/simple-logic-defies-tea-party-racist-label/#more-144838

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After all, thats all you've got. You can't attack the Tea Party for their ideas.

Oh, sure we can!! But the topic of this thread is about the alleged toleration of bigotry by the Tea Party. The "ideas" of the Tea Party are therefore irrelevant to the topic.

The Tea Party grew out of the election of President Barack Obama. The accusation by the NAACP has come more than a year and a half after that election -- so it would seem that enough time had passed for the Tea Party to develop a track record on how it handles or tolerates the people who are attracted to it. In other words, the more time that passes, the greater the basis for the accusation that insufficient action by Tea Party people in the face of racist behavior happens as often as not.

In other words, if the leaders of every Tea Party chapter adopted a "ZERO tolerance" policy on racism -- a sensible idea! -- and set out guidelines as to what is acceptable and not for the people that truly support them, it would be a vastly different organization.

To give traction to individuals like yourself to brand the Tea Party as racist.

The only person in this thread that branded any organization as racist was a Tea Party supporter who called the entire NAACP "the racist arm of the Democratic Party" and slandered it as an organization that believes that a person who is not born black is automatically a racist.

And so here is the question: How does the Tea Party actively demonstrate that it does not tolerate racism? And does the party itself get to define what is racist much in the manner of the guy in the video who owns the restaurant with the message board with the "N-word" pasted on it who asserts he's used the word all his life and he's not a racist?

Pointing to the handful of African-Americans who have come out and joined as "proof" that racism isn't tolerated is nothing more than tokenism. The vast majority of African-Americans believe that there are plenty of signs that racism is being tolerated -- and I'm a white guy in Georgia who knows quite a few folks who are Tea Party supporters and who have shared with me their personal views on who they think are "inferior."

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Was reading online when I came accross this Gem. It so well refutes the NAACPs baseless charges, that I'll simply provide the link...

The gem turns out to be a worthless chunk of coal.

The guy starts out with this: "Even assuming the most liberal definition of the word “racist”, we must ask how an entire set of people can be proclaimed to be racist."

(buzzer sounds) ...Game over. You lose. An entire set of people are not proclaimed to be racist. An entire set of people are proclaimed to be not doing enough to curb the clear evidence of racism among SOME of its members and supporters.

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yabits said: (buzzer sounds) ...Game over.

Thank God its over. The game of stuffing words in people's mouths was getting so bad I am surprised the ref did not stop the fight earlier. Talk about dirty tactics from dirty posters.

Moderator: Readers, please keep the discussion civil.

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In other words, if the leaders of every Tea Party chapter adopted a "ZERO tolerance" policy on racism -- a sensible idea! -- and set out guidelines as to what is acceptable and not for the people that truly support them, it would be a vastly different organization.

Assuming your premise is true, that there are racists in the organization, and that if they were expelled, the party would be different. This is actually not true. Obviously only a shill, a kool-aid drinker, or a brain dead moron actually believe these charges, but even if they were true, and the Party expelled these non-existant elements, it would be the same organization. It would still be opposed to Obamas radical agenda. The massive expansion of government, the wasteful spending, etc etc etc. Thats what the Tea Party stands for, the reason so many people are members of it, and support it, and why Dems and their shills are attacking it on things other then their ideas. Because they know they're losers in the war of ideas. Their wasteful spending and massive big government solutions are unsupportable.

(buzzer sounds) ...Game over. You lose. An entire set of people are not proclaimed to be racist. An entire set of people are proclaimed to be not doing enough to curb the clear evidence of racism among SOME of its members and supporters.

Ah, so the same could definitely be said about the NAACP. I didn't know you were accusing the NAACP as being tolerant of bigotry Yabits. I thought you were totally in their corner. That was one of the points of the article. It applies just as much to the NAACP. Guess you missed that.

Having said this, I have to say, I find it deeply offensive that you refer to the blacks in the Party as Tokenism. At best its condescending, at worst its a sign of racism. Might as well refer to all black conservatives as Uncle Toms. I really thought better of you then that Yabits.

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Ah, so the same could definitely be said about the NAACP.

There is absolutely no evidence that the NAACP tolerates racist behavior by its members. You can make up anything you want to.

I have to say, I find it deeply offensive that you refer to the blacks in the Party as Tokenism.

There is a severe denseness in your thinking that debilitates you into thinking that. I am not referring to blacks as tokenism. I am referring to the fact that Tea Party members have used the fact of a sprinkling of black members as some kind of "proof" that the organization does not tolerate racism from its general membership.

By presenting that argument, it is actually the Tea Party supporters who resort to tokenism. This is akin to the racist white who uses the N-word in his restaurant then shows off pictures of Martin Luther King and claims that some of his "best friends are black." Having a black "friend" does not prove a person is not a racist. Having black members does not prove that an organization isn't tolerant of racism amongst its membership.

Assuming your premise is true, that there are racists in the organization, and that if they were expelled, the party would be different....It would still be opposed to Obamas radical agenda.

Yes, the remnants of a much-smaller Tea Party would still be opposed. A genuine zero-tolerance policy and enforcement on racist behavior would cause serious convulsions as many would defend the first amendment rights of the racists to express their bigotted views.

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I am referring to the fact that Tea Party members have used the fact of a sprinkling of black members as some kind of "proof" that the organization does not tolerate racism from its general membership.

The Tea Party has a challenge for you. Doubt that will ever happen though.

At Tea Party Patriots we will continue to condemn the fringe elements of the movement and any expression of racism or bigotry. We sincerely hope that the Obama While House, the NAACP, and the liberal left will follow our lead and do the same in their own ranks.

Mark Meckler and Jenny Beth Martin are co-founders of Tea Party Patriots.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0710/39745_Page2.html

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I have said that racists flock to the Tea Party and the Tea Party does not do much to dissuade their bigotry.

First, the democrats claimed those attending Tea Party events were dangerous and violent. But that tactic had to be dropped because families with children and older middle class couples that looked like grandparents were the only pictures they could come up with.

No arrests, no violence, no bad language on the posters; just Americans carrying home made signs opposing federal policies. I recall seeing a photo of a six-year-old girl holding up a sign saying: "I'm 6 years old and already $36,0000 in Debt".

Really scary people, don't ya think?

So now, the Democrat Party's racist arm, the NAACP, has come out saying Tea Party members are racists because they are "tolerating bigotry" and there is "racism within the political movement".

All I have seen and read is opposition of big spending policies, the Health Care Debacle and other policies forced down the throats of us taxpaying Americans by the party of endless entitlements. Heh, to those living from generation to generation on government handouts, that's their definition of racism.

Does anyone believe that if there was visual evidence of racism, either spoken or on the posters that it would not be plastered all over the news by the Obama's lapdog MSM? That 100k bounty is still being offered but no takers have yet to step up and claim their fame and fortune. Must be a reason for that, eh, yabits?

RR

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Darn it I was wrong!

Yabits I found the a video where the "N" word was spoken at a Tea-Party rally after all.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9TeBQUDh7Lc

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Would your motto be: "Help us to use our brains so that we can advance ourselves by working smarter!"

Better than the NAACPs motto: 'Personal Responsibility' is a white racist term!!!!

RR

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At Tea Party Patriots we will continue to condemn the fringe elements of the movement and any expression of racism or bigotry.

It's a shame that message hasn't been heeded by the Tea Party supporters here. Not a one condemned the fringe element who described the NAACP as the racist arm of the Democratic Party.

We sincerely hope that the Obama While House, the NAACP, and the liberal left will follow our lead and do the same in their own ranks.

I don't believe the Tea Party is doing enough to make good on its own proclamation. Nevertheless, I have yet to see a single example of racism by the NAACP. The one valid thing brought up -- the association with Farrakhan's racist Nation of Islam -- was in fact regretted (and the association terminated), and the corrupt NAACP leader who fostered it was removed and replaced.

So if there are bad apples in every organization who tolerate association with racists, the NAACP example with Farrakhan demonstrates precisely the opposite of what the NAACP's critics intended.

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Yabits,

I am a Tea Party supporter and strongly believe in the overall principles they espouse. Or as Thomas Jefferson said so many years ago " The Government that governs least governs best".

This is an age old debate that we as a free Democracy has had since the inception of the republic. The proper role of government in our individual lives.

I do not wish to score any political points or refute some very valid points that you have raised with your posts with my response right now.

I do wish to impart to you an honest and forthright opinion from a conservative, a tea party supporter and through my interactions with other like minded Tea party members and conservatives to maybe help you understand a viewpoint that you hold.

Your concern as I gather it is that Conservatives or Tea Party members have not done enough to condemn the fringe racist element that has tried to attached their agenda to the Tea party or conservative political viewpoint.

Conservatives such as myself our mystified as to why we should have to condemn something that we already do everyday, respect for the power of the individual over the intrusiveness of the State in our lives. There is no litmus test for a person to be active in the Tea party, just that they share the same basic beliefs as in less Government and the power of the individual over the power of the state.

Your arguments harkin back to an era of the sixties and the earlier seventies when racism was a huge factor in our national life. This is not the case today and the generations that are now in their thirties and forties who have grown up post sixties and seventies can only be called overall as the most tolerant and fair minded indiduals who could care less about a persons skin color.

To but it another way you are asking people who have never had a classic racist bone in their body or mindset to all of the sudden have to somehow apologize or be contrite now, for what? Is the first impulse they have.

I sure I am beating my head agaisnt a wall with you but can you understand why that would make a person pretty defensive when you you throw out that a person is a racist because he has not done enough to condone it instead of actually PROVING it by the way he or she lives her life with respect to others that have a different ethnic background then themselves?

Again I am sure you will still state that bigotry is welcome by conservatives or the Tea party, you could never be farther from the truth. The Tea Party has eveolved from the sixties have you?

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From Michelle Malkin's blog on NAACP resolution complaining of 'racism' within the Tea Party:

5:51pm Eastern. The Tea Party-bashing fest has finally begun. The resolution calling on “all people of good will” to “repudiate” the “racism” of the Tea Party is now being debated. The resolution says the Tea Party movement is a “threat to the pursuit of justice” for all.

Member wants to qualify that only “some” are racist in the Tea Party movement instead of “all” because CNN criticized Obama for issuing blanket indictment of the Tea Party movement.

Another member objects to demand that Tea Party “expel racial instigators,” says it violates free speech principles.

6:00pm Eastern…NAACP member calls for officials to shut out press…webcast shut down.

http://michellemalkin.com/2010/07/13/wake-the-fk-up-michelle-malkin-youre-black/

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Conservatives such as myself our mystified as to why we should have to condemn something that we already do everyday, respect for the power of the individual over the intrusiveness of the State in our lives. There is no litmus test for a person to be active in the Tea party, just that they share the same basic beliefs as in less Government and the power of the individual over the power of the state.

@sailwind, just to counter your selective amnesia on this so-called gov't intrusion over individual rights, perhaps our conservative friends in the US are forgetting the mandated Global Anti-Semitism Review Act-- requiring the United States to monitor global activities of perceived anti-semitism worldwide. It was signed in 2004 not by President OBAMA but President BUSH.

NAACP was wrong to play the race card. They have been lackluster in criticizing the Tea Party over what it stands-- and it playing the race card clearly shows despondency over its role in post-racial America.

Criticism though of conservatives that the left and the Democrats have been playing the role of "big-brother" over race is absolute non-sense. Bush did too, as I pointed above, it's just that the right would rather not mention it =/

http://buchanan.org/blog/criminalizing-criticism-of-israel-4180

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@sailwind, just to counter your selective amnesia on this so-called gov't intrusion over individual rights, perhaps our conservative friends in the US are forgetting the mandated Global Anti-Semitism Review Act-- requiring the United States to monitor global activities of perceived anti-semitism worldwide. It was signed in 2004 not by President OBAMA but President BUSH.

No Offense,

People that support anti-semitism or wallow in the mindset that the Jooze is responsible for all the world troubles are idiots.

Just like any other racist on the planet.

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People that support anti-semitism or wallow in the mindset that the Jooze is responsible for all the world troubles are idiots. Just like any other racist on the planet.

Ho hohoho....

I love how your statement all of a sudden became more legible.... Love it!

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People that support anti-semitism or wallow in the mindset that the Jooze is responsible for all the world troubles are idiots.

Thank you, totally agree. And people who pull the race card, rather then address real issues, are likewise. It truly boggles the mind how they think that attacking a group for racism, despite a complete lack of evidence, or any overt signs of it, is going to work. Well, maybe with the MSM getting behind and pushing. Just one more reason not to bother with the Network News.

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Your arguments harkin back to an era of the sixties and the earlier seventies when racism was a huge factor in our national life. This is not the case today and the generations that are now in their thirties and forties who have grown up post sixties and seventies can only be called overall as the most tolerant and fair minded indiduals who could care less about a persons skin color.

I am not so sure about that. Polls taken before the election of President Obama, polls which received nearly 40% of "No" responses from conservatives and independents on the question, "Do you believe the country is ready for a black president," suggest otherwise.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/06/04/opinion/polls/main4151937.shtml

I agree however, that when you look at the younger generations, race is much less of a factor. However, when dealing with bigotry today, we still have to take all of the generations into consideration.

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What if the tea party was black? Would it change anything?

Interesting question. Interesting lyrics.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?gl=US&feature=player_embedded&v=ZtH7vH4yRcY

The tea parties I've seen on TV and the Internet are like a sea of white faces.

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What if the tea party was black? Would it change anything?

They do have blacks, go to their Tea Party Patriot site and you'll see a couple of black faces. Also, the group have been actively endorsing blacks for the midterm election.

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**black candidates for the midterm election.

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The tea party is a corporate funded and run organization. It has more to do with promoting corporate welfare than helping the working man.

One of main backers of this so called grass movement is David Koch of Koch Industries. His family is no friend to the common man. But that in itself is another story.

I think that most of the tea party are just confused citizens. They have been duped by big flashy corporate money and the dancing bears known as fox news anchors.

What has happened to this so called grass roots movement is something they (corporate backers) did not expect. More and more fringe groups are picking up the name tea party and running with it.

This has gone from a controlled corporate run roller coast ride and morphed into a free-for-all nightmare for them.

More and more Nazis, white power freaks, Klan and just plain lunatics have jumped in and are slowly hijacking this ride.

One day people will call this movement just another bad hangover in American history. No one that was a part of it will admit they had anything to do with it.

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I think that most of the tea party are just confused citizens. They have been duped by big flashy corporate money and the dancing bears known as fox news anchors.

Other way around actually. Most Americans have been duped by the government. The members of the Tea Party are concerned by the size and scope of government, and how its been growing, along with the deficit. Theres no confusion about that. Anyone who isn't concerned is an idiot. Well, unless your goal is for some faceless government bureaucrat to have the right to decide everything for you. From birth to death. That does seem to be the goal of some people here. That more then anything is the true purpose of the tea party. To push back against this massive increase in government power.

One day people will call this movement just another bad hangover in American history. No one that was a part of it will admit they had anything to do with it.

I suspect if anything, its only going to get bigger. It will probably morph, and change names, but if the government expansion continues, many people will look back on today and wish they had joined at the beginning.

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More and more Nazis, white power freaks, Klan and just plain lunatics have jumped in and are slowly hijacking this ride.

News arrives just today that the National Tea Party Federation has expelled one of its leaders, Mark Williams (who led the "Tea Party Express"), for writing in his blog that the NAACP was racist.

As written in the piece (link follows): "National Tea Party Federation's expulsion of Williams and the Tea Party Express could be the first of many internal disputes to define the national tea party identity."

http://news.yahoo.com/s/yblog_upshot/20100718/el_yblog_upshot/tea-party-group-expels-leader-for-clearly-offensive-blog-post

Meanwhile, in an interview with ABC’s This Week, Vice President Joe Biden says neither he nor President Obama believes the Tea Party is a "racist organization," but he acknowledged some elements of the movement have "expressed racist views."

By jettisoning Williams, the national Tea Party movement now has one less of those "elements."

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One day people will call this movement just another bad hangover in American history. No one that was a part of it will admit they had anything to do with it.

Yes, it harkens back to another period in U.S. history where protestant conservatives launched a "patriotic" movement (in 1845) that was virulently anti-foreigner and anti-immigrant. It was known under various names like the American National Party, the American Republican Party, or just the American Party -- but they are better known in history as the "know-nothings."

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More and more Nazis, white power freaks, Klan and just plain lunatics have jumped in and are slowly hijacking this ride.

uhu.... are they the same folks who apparently yelled 'racist' remarks to black reps during the h. care debate?!

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I think it is humerous that a racist organization like the NAACP makes a big deal out of proclaming some other organization of being racist. Only when the NAACP expunges the racist fring from within itself can they proclaim themselves holier than thou.

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Molenir said: Other way around actually.

Other way around? There is no reason whatsoever it can't be both. Nothing you said goes against what Marin said.

You know, a failure to take good advice seems to be not much a Republican thing, not a Democrat thing, and not a Tea Party thing either. It seems to be more of an American thing. I can only believe it stems from pompousness. Tea Party supporters seem really hot to attack any sort of criticism no matter how small or even if its a matter of perception and interpretation. Some the tea party principles are great. But also some of them are incompatible current reality. (Demanding lower taxes while the national debt skyrockets for example). For the most part, I welcome the Tea Party, but it needs to have the central authority to make it sure it does not get hijacked by fringe groups and corporations. My worry is that it is becoming a rather aimless but powerful gollum.

But I am glad to see that someone has taken the criticism constructively and cleaned house of Mark Williams. This can only help the Tea Party and I believe that helping the Tea Party has been what most of the criticism was about even if it was tough love.

And I will give a straight tough love lesson: None of you did the Tea Party any favors by taking the NAACP criticism as branding the whole Tea Party racists when they only said racism was being tolerated. In fact, by protesting too much, you did make the whole party look racist where the NAACP didn't. Like I say, I actually welcome the party for many of its principles which I support, but my feeling of welcoming the party can quickly dry up if you supporters keep conducting yourselves this way. (Never mind RR though. He is a fringe group unto himself and the only way he could taint my opinion is by others tolerating him. That situation is a microcasm example of the NAACP statement.)

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Wolfpack said: Only when the NAACP expunges the racist fring from within itself can they proclaim themselves holier than thou.

Sort of like saying that someone who has lied cannot accuse another of lying. Since every damn one of us has lied at some point, that way of thinking is absolutely useless unless you want liars to all go unchecked.

FYI there was nothing "holier than thou" in the NAACP statement. Next, please put a name to the racist fringe in the NAACP or learn to hold your tongue. I give you until October to find the fringe and name it or them. Have a pleasant three months dude!

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Sort of like saying that someone who has lied cannot accuse another of lying. Since every damn one of us has lied at some point, that way of thinking is absolutely useless unless you want liars to all go unchecked.

Sunlight is the best disinfectant. The people who are actually calling NAACP 'racist' are only pointing out that aside from a black-point-of-view the group had been deficient when it comes to diversity.

Btw, the NAACP resolution not only repudiated the racism within the Tea Party they also called the movement “threat to the pursuit of justice”. Whatever!

MustWizard, your concern echoes senior Republicans on the stubbornness of the movement to policy details. If only the left would tackle the Tea Party on merits rather than yelling R A C I S T!!

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If only the left would tackle the Tea Party on merits rather than yelling R A C I S T!!

Nobody simply yelled racist and the NAACP does not represent the left.

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and the NAACP does not represent the left.

mmm... there are some in the left who would simply yell racist. And NAACP, whilst far from being a sole representative of the left, not only yelled racist but also called Tea Party a “threat to the pursuit of justice”.

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jraustralia, no one "simply" yelled racist. The NAACP accused the party of tolerating racism. That is not simple and they did not use the word racist for anyone...yet.

And I cannot call the NAACP right or left. Their politics is about advancing minorities and that is neither a right nor left position even if it seems many on the right would rather advance them by means of a bullwhip.

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The NAACP accused the party of tolerating racism. That is not simple and they did not use the word racist for anyone...yet.

uhu...

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Nobody simply yelled racist and the NAACP does not represent the left.

Whats the title of this article again? Wanna try that again?

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Their politics is about advancing minorities

Wrong. The NAACP's mission is to promote one particular racial group.

RR

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The NAACP's mission is to promote one particular racial group.

No, you just don't know the difference between 100 and 90 percent. Nobody denies the NAACP is mostly about black people. But the NAACP has also been involved with support for Asians and Native Americans. In Hamtramck, Michigan, it is estimated that half of the NAACP chapter members are Asian.

Remember back when "colored people" had to use different washrooms and water fountains (you probably do fondly). Well that was for Asians and Native Americans too you see. Thanks to work by the NAACP we all use the same stuff now. See they did not go for white only, black only, then "other" colored system. Not even in segregation at schools, see? Oh, and the mission according to their site is:

The mission of the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People is to ensure the political, educational, social, and economic equality of rights of all persons and to eliminate race-based discrimination.

RR=Fail

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Remember back when "colored people" had to use different washrooms and water fountains (you probably do fondly). Well that was for Asians and Native Americans too you see.

Oh look MistWizard, we can reminisce about history for all we want. It's a shame though that for all the faults and the clownish exploits of some in the Tea Party-- the shit-s____rs of Fox News, the fake Michelle Bachmann and the stink of corporate money hijacking this legitimate grassroot movement... the left seems despondent on how to counter them.

Take a look at some conservative bloggers out there-- read what they say-- and tell me whether you believe that Fox News, Michelle Bachmann and the corporate hijackers can all take the US back to where it use to be.

I sure know the answer to that-- but the Democrats are at a loss right now :(

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Take a look at some conservative bloggers out there-- read what they say-- and tell me whether you believe that Fox News, Michelle Bachmann and the corporate hijackers can all take the US back to where it use to be.

Well, not until 2012. Gonna take throwing Bama out to start repealing his disastrous agenda. Though with a Republican congress tightening the purse strings, and probably refusing to fund any of his agenda items... They can undo at least some of the damage.

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The mission of the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People is to ensure the political, educational, social, and economic equality of rights of all persons and to eliminate race-based discrimination

And you believe this group that also wrote:

repudiate the racist element and activities within the tea party

without a shred of evidence to back up their wild-eyed claims?

RR

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Gonna take throwing Bama out to start repealing his disastrous agenda.

Not gonna happen. Name one US Prez in the past forty years who won the election by promising to repeal a domestic policy?

(Prez Gingrich excluded-- since he seems to think he was the boss at the time)

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Not gonna happen. Name one US Prez in the past forty years who won the election by promising to repeal a domestic policy?

Yeah, name one president in the past 40 years who has passed a health care bill that more then 60% of Americans oppose. How about legislation that kneecaps business in the middle of a recession...

Back on topic now, giving further impetous to the charge that the NAACP itself is a racist organization...

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/07/19/clip-shows-usda-official-admitting-withheld-help-white-farmer/

Shall we talk about which group tolerates bigotry?

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"Can you imagine if there was a National Association for the Advancement of White People?"

Sarge, uh, that would be the republican party that has zero members in congress that are black. Zero. 12 percent of the population and zero member is congress. zero. zero. zero.

The NAACP is not racist, promoting black causes does not mean other are excluded. Even you know that is stupid.

While all these useless posts were going down yet another example of the racism of the tea party express is in the headlines. Not a week goes by without some idiot leader of the republican tea party exposing his racism. Now they are condemning each other over this last racist publication creating a circular firing squad that suits them perfectly.

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Yeah, name one president in the past 40 years who has passed a health care bill that more then 60% of Americans oppose. How about legislation that kneecaps business in the middle of a recession

O.topic, so basically you want a national debate egged by online flamers. Good luck to that. LOL

While all these useless posts were going down yet another example of the racism of the tea party express is in the headlines. Not a week goes by without some idiot leader of the republican tea party exposing his racism.

Au contraire. This debate only highlights how despondent the left and the Democrats have become in rejecting the Tea Party without looking like a bunch of clowns.

And pls.... give the Americans who voted for a black President a break. If you think that the Dems will win the midterm election by pointing out racial bias in the ranks of the Republican Party, the first black Prez would have the name Jesse L Jackson instead of Barrack H Obama!

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How about legislation that kneecaps business in the middle of a recession...

(Obvious o. topic) I would have blame Ben Bernanke on that. Then Obama too for re-nominating the jackass!

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If you think that the Dems will win the midterm election by pointing out racial bias in the ranks of the Republican Party.

Out of desperation, the democrats have to deploy their PAC, the NAACP, to play the "racist" card against the Tea Party because the "blame Mr. Bush" strategy has blown up in their faces.

RR

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Molenir posts this:

giving further impetous to the charge that the NAACP itself is a racist organization...

From the very clip that Molenir posted:

The NAACP released a statement late Monday condemning Sherrod's admission.

"We are appalled by her actions, just as we are with abuses of power against farmers of color and female farmers," the statement said.

"Her actions were shameful," it continued. "While she went on to explain in the story that she ultimately realized her mistake, as well as the common predicament of working people of all races, she gave no indication she had attempted to right the wrong she had done to this man."

Anyone who would disgregard this critical part of the story in the pathetic attempt to claim that the "organization itself is racist" is just that: pathetic. No wonder he's a conservative!

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yabits,

You need to do a bit more reserach. The NAACP just released the following statement (found on NBC News, so it is not a conservative FOX trumped up story):

NAACP leaders are calling on the Obama administration to reconsider its ousting of a black Agriculture Department worker who was pushed out of her job over racially tinged remarks, reversing their previous criticism of the employee.

"NAACP President Benjamin Todd Jealous said in a statement that the group was "snookered" into believing that USDA employee Shirley Sherrod expressed racist sentiments at a local NAACP meeting in Georgia earlier this year. Jealous said conservative activist Andrew Breitbart, whose website posted video of Sherrod's remarks, deceived millions of people by releasing only partial clips. He said the full video makes clear that Sherrod was telling a story of racial unity."

So, I guess they are going to retract their statements that you posted.

So now tell me, is the NAACP not being fair in this case.

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Indeed, this is the case. However at the same time it isn't. This woman first decided not to do her job, to help this man because he is white, and then later realized that despite being white, he is also poor, and so decided to send him to one of his own kind to help him. She sent him to a white lawyer. As it happens, this event actually occurred 20 years ago. However it doesn't change either the racist condescending attitude, or the fact that she gave this talk to an approving NAACP audience just recently. What does seem more certain, is that she eventually did the right thing, not because it was her job, but because he was poor.

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Molenir, When I go to an government official, I expect that they will treat me fairly and deal with my case on the facts presented. I don't care if they harbor animosities against me because of my race, I probably wouldn't want to go to lunch with them either, but I expect them to carry out their duties assigned.

This lady was just wrong. Her job is to do her duty and help those who come to them for it. I find it horrible that she could have this attitude, but then if an illegal alien comes up and asks for services, and it is found out that an American government official treated them the same way, that official would be fired.

Rather it happend last week or 20 years ago (which makes it just as bad since she probably did this on more than one occasion), it is still wrong.

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The key statement in the above is this:

"Andrew Breitbart, whose website posted video of Sherrod's remarks, deceived millions of people"

The NAACP always acted in good faith. The same cannot be said of Tea Party supporter Breitbart.

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yabits, so I guess you are happy with me being a civil servant not giving you my full efforts jus tbecause we are of a different color. If I refer you to one of your own (who may not be as skilled as myself) and do nothing to help then I guess you think that is fair.

Come down from the ideological tree. As a Black person, I am appalled at her actions. Whatever happened to Dr. MLK's vision of being judged on the content of your character and not the color of your skin. There are no excuses for what this lady has done, no matter how she tries to spin it.

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The fact is, those who capriciously take words out of context for political purposes were warned about “context” at the beginning of Breitbart’s Monday post, were never told that Ms. Sherrod caused harm to the farmers (except through Ms. Sherrod’s own words), and were even given the proper context:

In the first video, Sherrod describes how she racially discriminates against a white farmer. She describes how she is torn over how much she will choose to help him. And, she admits that she doesn’t do everything she can for him, because he is white. Eventually, her basic humanity informs that this white man is poor and needs help. But she decides that he should get help from “one of his own kind”. She refers him to a white lawyer.

The problem for both the NAACP and the White House was that they took it out of context on their own and reacted as any victim of an Alinsky-style tactic might—by overreacting. However, in so doing, they also threw Shirley Sherrod under their bus. In other words, they got beaten at their own game, with their own bat, and they chose the politically expedient way out of it.

NAACP acted in good faith? Really? They threw Sherrod under the bus rather then bother to look at the context. They had the video, it was their video, but they couldn't take the time to watch it, before denouncing her. I find that actually more amazing then what she said.

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yabits, so I guess you are happy with me being a civil servant not giving you my full efforts jus tbecause we are of a different color.

It's irrelevant to the topic of the NAACP supposedly tolerating bigotry.

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NAACP acted in good faith? Really? They threw Sherrod under the bus rather then bother to look at the context.

That's called an "error." Human beings make them from time to time.

The NAACP's error was taking the word of a conservative news/blog source. The NAACP did not intentionally try to deceive anyone, as Breitbart did.

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The NAACP's error was taking the word of a conservative news/blog source. The NAACP did not intentionally try to deceive anyone, as Breitbart did.

Their error was one of incompetence. It was their tape, their meeting. And if you watch the tape, and listen to what she says, the crowds reaction to what she is saying, is quite telling. It certainly does suggest a level of racism endemic to at least the Georgia chapter of the NAACP, though who knows if the problem with the group goes further.

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The NAACP's error was taking the word of a conservative news/blog source. The NAACP did not intentionally try to deceive anyone, as Breitbart did.

yabits, if you think that Breitbart did this, does that mean that he sent the lady into the NAACP to tell her story on what she did 20 years ago. Funny how now all of a sudden the white farmer and his family came out, and the press is saying that this was a set up. Tell me, if America is such a polarized place as you think it is, then how would a conservative like Breitbart get the tape? Was it given to him as a set up for his expose on ACORN and the corruption?

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Tell me, if America is such a polarized place as you think it is, then how would a conservative like Breitbart get the tape? Was it given to him as a set up for his expose on ACORN and the corruption?

This sort of speculation and questioning does not befit an intelligent human being, so we'll have to consider it as originating elsewhere.

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This sort of speculation and questioning does not befit an intelligent human being, so we'll have to consider it as originating elsewhere.

I believe it more accurate to say, it doesn't benefit Democrats. The rest of us though, now thats something different. I won't get into an arguement over the intelligence, or lack thereof among those on the left. That would be off topic. :-)

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I feel almost sorry for the NAACP. They have lost all credibility and the Sherrod case has blown up. Mr Obama and his inner circle look like fools.

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The NAACP has published and challenged VP Candidate Sarah Palin's Tea Party in behalf of Black People with a report "Tea Party Nationalism" that they take no responsibility for. The NAACP President & CEO Benjamin Todd Jealous ends his opening statement in the report with the following statement: "Tea Party Nationalisalism is a product of the Institute for Research and Education on Human Rights. Neither the NAACP nor its leadership was involved in its research or authorship."

The report appears to be pure propaganda highlighting White organizations that are a part of the American social political fabric for hundreds of years. The Tea Party is not marketing Crack & Heroin in the Black Community, nor did they destroy the Educational institutions in the Black Community, nor did they rob Blacks with Wall Street forced home foreclosures, nor are they presently involved in the destablization and dispersement of the Black Communities nationwide. Also what happened to Congressman's John Conyers HR Bill 40 Reparations / Slavery Bill for Black People Mr. Jealous?

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