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© 2024 AFPNATO begins sending F-16 jets in new support for Ukraine
By Shaun Tandon and Max Delany Washington©2024 GPlusMedia Inc.
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TaiwanIsNotChina
Will be another great success for Russia when their supposedly high tech jets fail to take out F-16s.
JJE
Few things here:
F-16s won't change the calculus on the battlefield. Russia will win this conflict hands down. There won't be a "strategic defeat" inflicted on Moscow.
The gaslighting about the now "irreversible path" to NATO membership continues, which is not only reversible; it never was in the forward direction to it begin with, let alone on a 'path'.
The truth is Ukraine has been sent up a long brown creek without a paddle in its role for and by the west as a usable proxy, which it has played to a tee, and in the future to be discarded.
Moscow gets a veto by default and it won't happen. Kyiv-regime forces have to push the RFAF back to 1991 borders and if one subscribes to that fantasy, then you've been drinking too much lemonade.
That main photo looks kind of creepy with Joe on the two big screens.
geronimo2006
More than 2 years on and Russia, for lack of equipment, is reduced to carrying out meat-wave attacks incurring huge casualities. They can't defeat Ukraine. They would have done so by now and it's not for lack of trying. The strategic defeat will happen when their army or economy collapses.
Antiquesaving
The coping never stops.
The SU-35 is a 5th generation and in the rare likelihood of and encounter the F-16 has little chance especially with the pilots having less experience.
The S-400 system it far more advanced than even these upgraded F-16 are capable of dealing with.
Longer radar, longer rage than the F-16.
Ukraine in theory will have 65 F-16s Russia has around 200 SU-35 and SU -34, and that was before.
Today the estimate of new SU-35 is around 30 a year since 2022, so add in another 60 minimum (based on pentagon reports).
Russia has been hitting Ukrainian airfields, any idea why?
Well because the F-16 needed special airfields that Ukraine didn't have and those had to be built, and Russia waited until completion to blow them to bits.
Abrahams tank "game changer" 35 delivered 10 already confirmed destroyed and Ukraine lost more land, same with challenger tanks, etc...
Now the great F-16 game changer!
65 F-16s are not going to make much difference.
Ukraine is losing because it's men are refusing to fight.
New laws to conscript even sick people, lower the age of conscription, military gangs grabbing people off the streets, 28 days training and sent to the front, a 2 day average at the front before a conscript is killed or wounded.
Ukraine itself admits it doesn't has enough men and cannot get men even with conscription and press gangs on the streets.
More weapons for how? Where are the soldiers going to come from.
We hear, Ukrainians are willing to fight, if this was true then they wouldn't have to lower the conscription age and wouldn't need men guarding the border and running around the streets trying to grab draft Dodgers.
Few are volunteering so they have to force people. Is this a country where the men are rushing to defend it?
Underworld
Kuku
Inflation is at 8.3% and rising. Interest rates are at 16%. Hardly rebuilt and strengthened.
fallaffel
You don't think Ukraine can lay some fresh concrete over a damaged runway?
Sounds like a wasted missile.
JJE
They probably can lay some fresh concrete over a damaged runway.
Question is what concrete as it was sold off on the side and any funds are/were embezzled.
Sh1mon M4sada
There's no impediment any more, go for it. Keeping Ukraine out of NATO was to avoid war, but war is underway, so rationale gone.
fallaffel
They are fighting, and have been for a couple years now. Doesn't that mean they're willing to fight?
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Fos
All this pro-US propaganda of the media and hypocrisy over an alleged greater good for the fight to support Ukraine and the good deeds of of Japan's ally: Washington. The Usa administration is trying so hard to create enemies (i.e. China and Russia) for their own commercial and economic interests, while pushing the rest of the world population to ignore the forgotten war in Gaza, where they are making billion of dollars selling America made weapons, and killing innocent civilians. What a world we leave in! Thank you guys for your arguments amongst this double standards driven by God know who?
JJE
How exactly is Kyiv going to join NATO with 25% of the country gone and counting?
Blacklabel
This is the 3rd Zelensky-Biden meeting in like 6 weeks?
And now at the NATO meeting and he’s not even a member.
somebody is a priority customer. Some day after Joe is gone we will find out why,
Fos
JJE
Don't worry JJE, American corporations (see Blackrock, Goldman Sachs) already have a lot of plans for the reconstruction process, and it is all for that "greater good" doctrine, let's save the world from the authoritarian regimes. It is all about business, more selling of weapons and another slave country on Wall Street's payroll.
Raw Beer
NATO sure likes throwing money away!
WoodyLee
"The quickest way to get to peace is through a strong Ukraine," Blinken said."
As Pres. Reagan once said,
""We know only too well that war comes not when the forces of freedom are strong, but when they are weak. It is then that tyrants are tempted.""
The problem here Ukraine alone can't win this war, and NATO nations are not ready to put boots on the ground!!!? or are they?
wallace
Bogeyman in someone's cupboard.