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© Copyright 2024 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed without permission.Zelenskyy says to win the war, US needs to lift limits on striking military targets inside Russia
By LORNE COOK, ELLEN KNICKMEYER and ERIC TUCKER WASHINGTON©2024 GPlusMedia Inc.
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bass4funk
Well, they can't, just like they can't tel Putin to step down.
Yeah, you buy that if you want. LOL
I see both men as the same.
bass4funk
Funny, the majority of people want to cut funding to Ukraine overwhelmingly. Cowardice? No, American first policies, all day long.
https://edition.cnn.com/2023/08/04/politics/cnn-poll-ukraine/index.html
I just want out and let the Europeans take the leading role in this.
Antiquesaving
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/opinion/article-as-a-ukrainian-im-not-surprised-by-volodymyr-zelenskys-declining/
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cn007p39zdzo
wallace
and no one calls for him to step down. He will be remembered in Ukraine's history.
Ukraine has elections but is not allowed under Martial Law. I get it you hate President Volodymyr Zelenskyy. The Ukrainians are free to call for President Volodymyr Zelenskyy to stand out, unlike the Russians and Putin.
TaiwanIsNotChina
Then it behoves you to see that anti-American Putin doesn't have anything left with which to fight us, regardless of the outcome.
TaiwanIsNotChina
We don't like to see cowardice inhibiting American national security.
bass4funk
At this rate it will, give it time, Putin has enough of it.
Well, then there won't be anything left in the near future.
bass4funk
No, just telling the truth. A coin has two sides, always.
And a villain to others.
Well, they can't, just like they can't tel Putin to step down.
wallace
President Volodymyr Zelenskyy's approval rating is 90%. No other Western leader comes close.
TaiwanIsNotChina
And how did that result in tanks rolling towards Kyiv? Most animals can't be controlled as well as you think Russia was.
Raw Beer
Zelensky's term expired. If he really was a hero, he would have had a free and open election and won. But for some reason, he didn't do that...
TaiwanIsNotChina
People that follow this stuff realize that Putin didn't lose 100k Russians because he was holding back and that non-nuclear missiles don't destroy entire cities. Ukraine is not 50% destroyed. They also know that no deal short of surrender has been offered to Zelenskyy. These facts are indisputable.
Raw Beer
Indeed, some people still view him that way. But to many he is just a guy who enriched himself by sacrificing his country to please America, whose goal was to destroy Russia because it interfered with America's hegemony.
TaiwanIsNotChina
Yes, we know you don't hate Putin, an anti-American and a mass murderer. Now will you tell us you don't hate Democrats? Let's see if there is any patriotism left in you.
Antiquesaving
We can't believe any news today not western and especially not Russian!
Example of pure western news fiction.
Western news reported that the Russian 98th paratroopers division (this part division is important) was sent into Chasiv Yar in April with the job of taking it.
It took 3 months for the 98th to finally capture just the micro district!
Now Forbes and other news sites are claiming the in that battle Russia list 99,000 men!
Wait since when does a "division" have over 100,000 men.
Please don't claim they sent in ten times the division's size in replacement, a paratrooper division is an elite unit. They don't just send people in to it!
This is the type of wishful thinking and fake information given by Ukrainian and reprinted without verification by western news.
Ukraine (Zelensky )says "we are willing to keep fighting, Blah blah blah.. " but in reality men are in hiding, men are trying to flee the country, they have units grabbing men off the streets (this is not Russian propaganda but from the BBC CBC CNN, etc...) with a supposed 5 million fighting aged men available, if Ukrainians were really willing to fight, Ukraine wouldn't have a problem recruiting or a manpower shortage!
NATO and Zelensky talk while men die!
wallace
bass4funk
Your deflection doesn't change the fact that President Volodymyr Zelenskyy is a war hero for the Ukrainians, and no one calls for him to step down. He will be remembered in Ukraine's history.
Raw Beer
It's not just a question of allowing to strike Russia. Some of the weapons used, such as the missiles (loaded with cluster bombs) that killed several beachgoers in Crimea, need to be programed by the US and use US intelligence and satellite data. So it would be Ukraine and US attacking Russia. Russia would be expected and entitled to respond against US targets....
bass4funk
Again, it is about how you see the individual, take your pick, Zelenskyy, Reagan, Khomeini, Chavez, depends on how the person views these individuals, that is just a fact, not everyone likes or trusts Zelenskyy, not everyone hates Putin, it just depends.
wallace
It's not about Truman. President Volodymyr Zelenskyy has a war hero who only matters to other Ukrainians.
Fos
TaiwanIsNotChina
"this could be a very bad day for Putinists here".
More than Putinists here I see plenty persons who know nothing about history and geopolitics and are heavily invested in the economic interests of the warmongers in Washington. The present and past US administrations are the only responsible of these wars (including Gaza), and I cringe thinking about the lack of ethics and knowledge of past conflicts of European leaders, who are not ready to face off the Americans once for all.
bass4funk
Depends, I mean, I think Truman was a hero in many respects, but I don't think the Japanese share my opinion in this.
wallace
President Volodymyr Zelenskyy is a Ukrainian war hero who defended his country against the Russian invasion led by Putin. His name will be remembered in the history of the country.
Blacklabel
Left are desperately trying to use the “but Truuuump” stuff.
It just doesn’t register any more when Biden introduces Zelensky as “President Putin” and is doing an “unscripted press conference” from a teleprompter.
bass4funk
I am calm, I was just adding my critical point.
More name-calling, go ahead, has nothing to do with liking or hating the guy, just stating facts.
When was the last time the Swedes saw combat, I mean on a military catastrophic scale?
Hardly.
Ok, so 3 times, that's all you got, just name-calling?
Toblerone
Was this where Biden introduced Zelensky as “President Putin.” ?
lincolnman
Same old tired pathetic dodges and deflections - notice it's never an answer.
Reality intrudes upon the Kremlin Potemkin Village and they run away again...
WoodyLee
Over 2,000 Ukrainian soldiers were Reportedly killed in the past 36 hours according to Time Of India news. The killing on both sides is as bad as it gets and yet Mr. Zelenskyy and his war mongers are still talking about continuing the onslaught.
Wining and dining while the unprivileged are getting slaughtered.
lincolnman
Calm down...read again and note I wasn't responding to you...
Why do US far-right Kremlin lovers get so testy when it comes to Russia....odd, but consistent...
Of course they will. How do you know what Sweden will do - you live there?
More MAGA Putin-love...
The MAGA-Putin love is flowing today...
ian
Do they want you to win?
bass4funk
This is what the left do not understand, good point, once Putin unleashes the full might of the Russian military, he would rather see that country burned to the ground than ever allow it to get near NATO. Again, if I were Zelenskyy, I would cut a deal why he can still salvage his country, if he doesn't there won't be a Ukraine left to return to.
WoodyLee
"“If we want to win, if we want to prevail, if we want to save our country and to defend it, we need to lift all the limitations," Zelenskyy said""
It's going to take more than just hitting inside Russia to win this war.
Up to this day Russia has not unleash it's full military might like what we are seeing in Palestine. A full out war with Russia by attacking it's mainland will need the full support and direct involvement of NATO then we are looking at a situation that non of us would want to experiance.
Better start Talking instead of Fighting.
bass4funk
Why do libs get so testy when it comes to Ukraine Odd....
Will Sweden fight?
As is the Ukrainian military
Nor will you see anyone challenging Zelenskyy and his own social-political problems.
zibala
It still ticks me off that Biden provoked and instigated Russia to invade Ukraine.
bass4funk
Say the people in charge fighting Putin as we speak, love....
What?
Fos
TaiwanIsNotChina
"this could be a very bad day for Ptinists here".*
More than P*tinists here I see plenty persons who know nothing about history and geopolitics and are heavily invested in the economic interests of the warmongers in Washington. The present and past US administrations are the only responsible of these wars (including Gaza), and I cringe thinking about the lack of ethics and knowledge of past conflicts of European leaders, who are not ready to face off the Americans once for all.
JJE
Joe spoke about the Indo-Pacific countries represented at the NATO conference he said:
"Australia, New Zealand, Japan, Australia ... I already mentioned Australia."
Australia got two mentions and he forgot the fourth, South Korea.
Fos
TaiwanIsNotChina
"this could be a very bad day for Putinists here".
More than Putinists here I see plenty persons who know nothing about history and geopolitics and are heavily invested in the economic interests of the warmongers in Washington. The present and past US administrations are the only responsible of these wars (including Gaza), and I cringe thinking about the lack of ethics and knowledge of past conflicts of European leaders, who are not ready to face off the Americans once for all.
lincolnman
"Blah, blah" - as in I can't respond and refute your facts so I'll just ignore them...a typical Kremlin shill reply...
Is NATO weakened with Finland and Sweden joining the Alliance?
Is Putin gutting his own military which according to him is rife with corruption?
Are the Moskva, Rostov-on-Don, and Minsk still sailing around the Black Sea?
You won't see any answers to those questions from the Kremlin's Potemkin Village misinformation factory...
zibala
Time to hit the negotiation table for peace talks.
Maybe in the end of January.
JJE
Yes. Biden referred to Harris as "Vice President Trump" on the very first question he took.
Before Q&A, he started off his press conference with 'unscripted' remarks about NATO from a teleprompter.
Journalists are aghast as his team said this would be unscripted and have never seen a teleprompter at a press conference.
Hard to watch.
Kuku
I wonder how Stoltenberg took Biden's lingual lapses concerning his wife:) Evidently also as a nice joke. You are living in a tale about naked king....
bass4funk
Well, Russia is a propaganda machine, they’re not hearing that their endeavor is pointless.
Blacklabel
“Look, I wouldn't have picked Vice President Trump to be vice president,” Biden said, not appearing to catch his mistake. “So, I think she not qualified to be president [if I thought] she’s not qualified to be president.”
this NATO thing is an intentional disaster. Joe was set up and the people have been deceived for years now.
TaiwanIsNotChina
Overall people want to live in freedom, just like your heroes in Palestine.
TaiwanIsNotChina
Russians may be brainwashed but they aren't going to march willingly to pointless slaughter much more than anyone else.
lincolnman
What? ROFL...
Thanks for agreeing with me....
How?
MAGA Putin-love... The preferred Trump VP pick...
TaiwanIsNotChina
All of those things were totally doable but the west was not serious. Russia is a lightweight at 1/5th the population of NATO.
No time is acceptable to surrender your sovereignty or your territory. Neither is the action of a "man".
stormcrow
It does seem strange that Russia strikes wherever it like in and against Ukraine, yet Ukraine has to restrain itself from doing likewise in and against Russia.
Fighto!
We were assured that Ukraine would "roll over" within 72 hours. Kiev would be under Russian control.
It's been over 2 and a half years.
It's clear the fascist Russians being thrown into the meat grinder are suffering mass casualties. 100,000 plus dead, hundreds of thousands injured. 8 percent of an already weak Russian economy is being used up on this fascist war of expansion - modelled on Nazi Germany's lebensraum.
Keep up the good fight, brave Ukrainians. Keep sending the fascists back home in body bags - where they belong.
bass4funk
How many would commit to full combat commitment with Russia? When was the last time the Swedes fought in a war?
That helps both nations
Both are exploiting each other.
That won’t happen, maybe to other people that would think about doing that to Putin though.
lincolnman
More ridiculous fairy tales from the Kremlin fantasy factory and their MAGA cheerleaders in the US...
"Russia has won this war" - sure, you said that on Day #1 - it's now Day #867...meanwhile;
The Black Sea has become a graveyard for Russian ships...and their sailors...
Russia's own weapons were shown to the world to be defective and shoddy....forcing Putin to go beg the Mullahs and Kim for more drones and shells. The world's dictators and tyrants will be doing their military shopping in Beijing from now on...
Putin is waging a more effective war on his own military than on Ukraine - how many Generals and Admirals have either been arrested or fired?
https://www.businessinsider.com/putin-arrested-5-mod-officials-many-yet-to-come-2024-5
And tell us again how NATO will be "weakened" - as Finland and Sweden bring in more than one million troops and modern equipment to the Alliance. The only weakening that has been done is to Russian sovereignty, as Putin has been forced to turn the country into a vassal state of China. Xi knows this, and will exploit it...
This war has been a debacle for Russia and its people - the sooner Vlad has an accidental fall out an 8th story window, the better...for Russia and the world...
Laguna
Really? What was supposed to be one of the world's strongest armies invades a country it shares a land border with, expecting it to be a cakewalk, and now finds itself in a war of attrition, fighting desperately over nameless hamlets in the sliver of the country it precariously controls, and is so desperate that it seeks aid from its longtime nemesis, China (and that aid won't come without strings that will take a decade to play out, no doubt), even as it loses its best and brightest of its increasingly shrinking (Russia's birthrate is far below replacement and is not replenished by immigration as it is in the US) population who are either killed on the battlefield or flee abroad, and you say Ukraine has lost?
Really, there are no winners here. But if past is prologue, Ukraine must continue its fight: if Russia is allowed an inch of Ukrainian territory, they will be back for a mile.
JJE
Yes. At the NATO summit press conference, which incidentally is Joe's first press conference for over eight months (last was Chinese president Xi in Nov 2023).
Biden**: *Now I want to hand over to the President of Ukraine, who has as much courage as he has determination. Ladies and gentlemen, President** Putin***...
Zelensky was standing next to him.
bass4funk
I doubt he will make it and you have to also factor in, he has to take questions from the press after this, so he’s still not out of water. The world is watching.
Blacklabel
Bumbling idiot Biden introduced Zelensky as “president Putin” today?
Kuku
Ukrainians attacked Shebekino in the Belgorod region again — this time a drone dropped explisive device on a playground. Five teenagers were injured, two of them are in grave condition. They are being operated now.
In this case, the drone operator saw perfectly well who exactly he was attacking. The ukr operator absolutely consciously and purposefully sought to intentionally hit a group of children in the courtyard of an apartment building.
At the same time, what happened does not say anything fundamentally new about the enemy. Since 2014, it has similarly attacked the cities of Donbass, signing the shells with mocking phrases like "All the best for children." Everyone also remembers the relevant propaganda theses of the Kiev regime about "self-shootings" and "exploded air conditioners".
JJE
Ukraine has lost the war. No amount of money, arms or cope conferences with photo ops will change the reality on the battlefield.
Kyiv-regime forces have attrited their fighting forces in grinding battles since Bakhmut and throughout the summer/spring counteroffensive and now into the present. Clear the Loss Exchange Ratio has massively swung in RFAF favor (at least 5:1 if not higher), who now hold the strategic initiative and a geared up for the long haul.
Called this ballgame for Moscow long ago. Western media complex did a good job of convincing everyone Ukraine could win but the truth is they have been sent up a brown creek without a paddle as a temporary proxy.
Question from here on out is what a future truncated Ukraine rump state will look like and indeed whether they have suffered an irreparable blow to their statehood as the demographic and economic costs inevitably put them on the course to failed state status.
GuruMick
Falseflagsteve on the money...at least about "not winning " and time for negotiations.
Taiwan, your observation is interesting. {Give up land etc }....thats the Israel/Palestinian conflict base isnt it.?
Overall, people want to live in peace.
bass4funk
I have been uttering the same concerns about this from the start. Zelenskyy is just not going to win this, Putin will sacrifice every soldier and resource if he has to, better to accept a peace deal.
bass4funk
There is always that possibility.
Banthu
But the western media assured us that the Russian military was an incompetent pushover and that once the Leopards arrived it'd take a few hours to roll into Sevastopol in Crimea.
We were also assured that the Russian economy would collapse and citizens would revolt because of sanctions.
Zelensky keeps moving the goal post and he's moving it towards World War III.
It's time for Zelensky to man up and accept a peace deal to stop the fighting.
falseflagsteve
Taiwan
It’s a matter of facing reality my dear friend. Zelensky has been getting up to plenty but that’s all put aside for further use if need be.
TaiwanIsNotChina
There are not even allegations of personal wrongdoing against Zelenskyy compared to Indicted War Criminal Putin.
falseflagsteve
You’re nit winning the war mate. Time for peace. What he doesn’t realise is he will be made the scapegoat for this, probably killed during a coup or something or charges will be found to make him an international fugitive. The guy has plenty of skeletons in his closet but for the moment he’s a useful tool for the usual culprits.