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SwissToni
You say expands and attacks, NATO would say UN sanctioned actions to prevent a genocide. I don't know of any UN sanction of the Russian annexing of The Crimea nor the unwelcome presence of Russian forces in Eastern Ukraine.
You're right about one thing, there are multiple 'truths'. Russia's 'truths' are many but always conveniently unverifiable. It's certainly no paragon of freedoms.
Olegek
Sorry - it is different countries on this little planet and different opinions.
It's a freedom. ( freedom supposes presence of different opinions)
Nobody have monopoly on truth
Should I tell you about attacking Serbia and annexing Kosovo ?
About attacks on Iraq Libya ?
It's really srange - in last 20 years NATO constantly expands and attack
But everybody look at it like something like Red Cross
So NATO is not something like Red Cross
SwissToni
If you keep repeating it often enough you might convince yourself. In the meantime it's not NATO troops annexing foreign territories and attacking and threatening everyone around them. Russia has one arrow in its quiver, when sanctions bite it simply points its guns in a new direction. It's not the way forward.
Olegek
Very interesting version . Really very interesting
It should be something really good - free election for free people.
And Ukrainian president Viktor Janukovych was elected in free elections But 23.02.2014 Neo Nazi putsh took place in Kiev And he must run for his life
When Neo Nazi storm troopers with submachine guns assaulting government buildings it's not what we called " free election"
We can have or FREE election or Neo Nazi storm troopers
But not two options at the same time
what the " people of Ukraine " you talking about?
It was never such thing under the Sun and never will be
It was South East - Russian Orthodox urban industrialized
and North West - Ukrainian Uniat rural
Two different lands two different peoples
Most of Crimea population are RUSSIAN
OK? They are not Ukrainian but RUSSIAN
They want to speak Russian and not Ukrainian
And they want to be a Part of Russian world
And not a third world country - Ukraine
Immediately after the putsh Ukrainian Neo Nazi declared that they will
suppress Russian population of Ukraine as second sort people
" not really Ukrainian"
So in Crimea they were stopped by Russian Army which stand there for more than 200 years
In Donbass ( Russian populated region in South East of Ukraine ) they were not stopped and thousands civilians
were killed one million refuges run mainly in Russia ( including Crimea)
One million refuges - really good result of " free election" aka Nazi Putsh
SwissToni
Olegek, nonsense.
The Ukrainian government came to power in a free election. Th fact that they are pro western must have been a selling point for the people of the Ukraine. Russian troops entered and annexed The Crimea and justified that by saying the majority in the area speak Russian. Dont know who they think they were trying to fool.
There are no Neo Nazi stoormtroopers to support. You made that up.
No NATO troops have been in action in the Ukraine. Again youre trying to justify your made up facts.
The airliner was indeed shot down in Ukrainian airspace albeit contested. The whole world saw that the so called Pro Russian fighters wouldnt allow any form of investigation.
Youve got nothing but rhetoric.
Olegek
to SwissTony There are no NATO troops in the Ukraine fomenting dissent and shooting down civilian aircraft.
1 NATO members like Germany and USA organized coup d'etat in Ukraine
( not Russia)
2 They have supported not some theoretical pro western politicians but neo Nazi storm troopers
3 They have supported using artillery and aviation against not pro western regions of Ukraine
4 Boeing of Malaysian Airlines was shoot down in air space controlled by Ukraine military planes
and anti aircraft missile systems
maglev101
Somehow, some way, someone's bound to mention China in a non-China related article.
SwissToni
"aggressors in action?"
There are no NATO troops in the Ukraine fomenting dissent and shooting down civilian aircraft.
Olegek
Potential ??
Hm .. as far as I understand - USA/ NATO - aggressors in action ?
Russia send a clear signal to peace loving NATO - " Get out of Russian borders! "
Dylan Otoshiro
John Galt
I'm not necessarily siding with either side here but would you mind explaining your statement please?
John Galt
Here's another case of the pot calling the kettle black.
Thunderbird2
Putin seems to be flexing his muscles again... once a KGB agent, always a KGB agent. How long before the Russian flag is replaced by the Soviet one?
MarkG
Along with China the potential aggressors are testing the waters. I don't trust either of them.
YuriOtani
They are testing the response times of the west.
SwissToni
British fighters scrambled and flew supersonic overland to intercept a plane over South east. today. The pilot of the Latvian cargo plane was told he may be shot down.
I think they mean business.