Matt Lauer is fired at NBC; accused of crude misconduct

There should be an independent investigation and arbitration before a company can fire. Also, Matt Lauer was one of the highest paid news hosts. NBC has saved around $20 million.

Well, there you go. Another one bites the dust.

Ironically, sexual predator in chief was quick to tweet about it.

It's only a matter of time, Donald.

Lauer just got his ticket punched on the Karma Train and Ann Curry was the conductor.

There should be an independent investigation and arbitration before a company can fire.

Meh, it's not a court of law and I'm sure the people up top figured the accusations were credible and numerous enough. Their statement implies as much. In the current climate, you can't blame the networks for wanting to show zero tolerance as soon as abuse comes to light.

Lauer just got his ticket punched on the Karma Train and Ann Curry was the conductor.

Yeah, she must be experiencing a bit of schadenfreude right now. Can't blame her.

I bet he covered other peoples' allegations on the Today Show then went home sweating, knowing that his name may eventually pop up.

I bet he covered other peoples' allegations on the Today Show then went home sweating, knowing that his name may eventually pop up.

I was thinking the same. It'd be interesting to look at his recent interviews about the topic.

There should be an independent investigation and arbitration before a company can fire. Also, Matt Lauer was one of the highest paid news hosts. NBC has saved around $20 million.

I would tend to agree with you, but there is a clause in the contract that states that you have to always maintain a professional attitude and conduct towards your fellow employees and any implied advances be it physical or verbal will be subjected to counseling and or termination. That was in my contract when I was with the network and all networks have a similar contract, they all knew the consequences of their actions and yet, none of these men didn’t care. I liked Lauer, he wasn’t a political hack or a bomb thrower, we all knew his politics, but he was a rational and kind man, at least around his colleagues, but apparently there was a pattern where the network felt in the best interest of the company and the potential of paying out giant lawsuits the Fox News did, they decided to go with the story first before everyone else did. You cut Lauer and suing the network becomes more difficult, now these women can sue him privately and I’m sure they will. But I was shocked as well and didn’t see it coming, that’s for sure.

@toasted

The President has nothing to do with this. This is all about Lauer.

The President has nothing to do with this. This is all about Lauer.

As Toasted said, the President tweeted about it... He brought himself into it.

Let the house cleaning continue. Don't forget about the millions of women who have put up with this stuff forever and won't ever get any justice. If a couple dozen or hundred men have to be made examples of, so be it. Just hope that it finally makes this behavior rare and unacceptable.

North Korea launches an ICBM, the government faces a shutdown, and the Republican tax bill is in jeopardy and Trump has the time to tweet about Matt Lauer?!

As Toasted said, the President tweeted about it... He brought himself into it.

Well, he’ll survive this like everything else, move along folks, nothing to see.

@crazy

What does that have to do with Lauer? What’s the correlation? I’m a bit confused now? North Korea....what?

I bet he covered other peoples' allegations on the Today Show then went home sweating, knowing that his name may eventually pop up.

You could be right, but at this rate, I’m sure more people and bigger scandals will arise, this is just the tip of the iceberg. I’m sure there are a lot of people sweating knowing that the clock is ticking on them.

What does that have to do with Lauer? What’s the correlation? I’m a bit confused now? North Korea....what?

He means there's about a million other issues that the POTUS should be concerned with than Matt Lauer... Come on man... Step it up.

He means there's about a million other issues that the POTUS should be concerned with than Matt Lauer... Come on man... Step it up.

Well, then just say it, it’s really not that difficult. The rest was like.....ooookeey......

This is very ironic as Lauer really layed into Bill O'Reilly after O'Reilly was dumped by Fox news for the allegations against O'Reilly. At that time Laeur was "holier than thou" in the interview they did...and now this. I am no fan of O'Reilly by any means I just find this ironic.

@JuminRhee - you said, "There should be an independent investigation and arbitration before a company can fire." Why? Laeur brought shame to the network and also possibly caused financial damage to them. Employment contracts for that type of work are typically "at will" contracts for both parties and it seems fairly obvious that the network is in the right here.

It's all about power and they abused the crap out of it. Get rid of them all. And put the younger generation on notice.

@SuperLib - the way things are going it seems like that is probably the ultimate solution. The egos of some of these people are beyond imagination. They are also way overpaid for what they contribute to society.

Heck if this continues they may all be ousted anyway as it seems like this happens day after day after day....

'I was shocked as well and didn't see it coming' says the soundman and/or coffee gofer about the show's star making 100s of times larger salary. Nice broad comedy, even if unintentional.

Now that he's been exposed as a creepy molester and rapist makes him one of history's greatest hypocrites.

Pretty much like Moore, then. Preaching to folks about morality.

Yeah that 40 seconds his staff spent to tweet about an issue our President wanted people to know about was just critical. Our whole world could have gone up in nuclear flames!

but Dems perfectly fine to shut down the government and not fund the military while your “but North Korea”going on. All over trying to keep illegal aliens in the country so Dems can feel they are “nice people” for a minute before they back to Trump attacks.

Pretty much like Moore, then. Preaching to folks about morality

These are all allegations until proven so whether it’s Conyers, Franken or even Moore and everyone else, it’s all not good.

There should be an independent investigation and arbitration before a company can fire.

Given the incendiary climate surrounding this subject now, anything less than swift condemnation and decisive punitive actions could most possibly be spun into an accusation of complicity. Nobody wants that.

These are all allegations until proven so whether it’s Conyers, Franken or even Moore and everyone else, it’s all not good.

No, Moore's a kiddy fiddler. Absolute pedophile.

Nope. I posted The NY Times article yesterday. The liberal narrative is now “trust but verify”. So you don’t just believe women anymore. You assume they telling the truth but you are allowed to check into their stories and discredit them as needed.

Just like the Bill Clinton days. So no proof nothing happened, moving on.

The liberal narrative is now “trust but verify”. So you don’t just believe women anymore. You assume they telling the truth but you are allowed to check into their stories and discredit them as needed. Just like the Bill Clinton days. So no proof nothing happened, moving on.

Yeah! Why can't liberals condemn without proof like good republican boys do?!

Lauer spent decades preaching from high atop his TV soapbox about how men should treat women with respect. Now that he's been exposed as a creepy pervert, it makes him one of U.S. television's greatest hypocrites.

If he had worked for any other media organization other than the Peacock Network, he would slither under a rock and never be seen nor heard from again. But, watch for him to pop up on MSNBC sooner or later. . . .

you couid accuse without proof under “all women should be believed (except Clinton accusers)”. but now your liberal bible The NY Times says you can’t do that anymore abd have to verify accusations and changed your narrative.

Take up any rule changes with them.

Who have us good ole boys accused of sex crimes without proof? Other than people who confessed.

The liberals are the ones being racist to conyers by refusing to accept his denials while letting a white guy who confessed keep his job.

If he had worked for any other media organization other than the Peacock Network, he would slither under a rock and never be seen nor heard from again. But, watch for him to pop up on MSNBC sooner or later. . .

Kind of like how Moore will pop up as being elected, and not even later - it's likely to happen much, much sooner. Good thing he's a Republican! The Democrats would never elect a known kiddy fiddler.

Who have us good ole boys accused of sex crimes without proof? Other than people who confessed.

Not a sex crime, but you people are still whining about Benghazi and emails, all without any proof whatsoever.

And you expect us to suddenly feel bad for pointing out how your boy is a kiddy fiddler.

You can deal with that yourself when and if your comments end up on Twitter and when and if you get sued. It’s not my concern.

Guess you missed the inspector general the other day saying he was threatened into not doing a proper investigation of Hillary’s emails? Forgot about the 2 open congressional investigations? The mails that will be released soon about the tarmac meeting? None of the “email thing” is over yet no matter how much you want it to be.

I’m glad hypocrite Lauer is gone. Guy had a button on his desk where he could lock people inside his office and they can’t get our? Now that’s proof of a sexual predator in my opinion.

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Moore's a kiddy fiddler. Absolute pedophile.

Got proof to support these libelous allegations?

More importantly, is Judge Moore's name mentioned anywhere in this article?

Checking . . . Checking . . . Nope

I tried to tell these guys yesterday about their choice of language, especially in absence of any proof whatsoever. But they dont want to listen and their carelessness will get themselves sued and/or this site held liable. But whatever, I will still contribute $1 to their gofundme legal defense fund.

and then the guy who wrote the Washington Post article saying Franken shouldnt have to resign? Within 24 hours fired from his job for inappropriate sexual conduct. Cant make this up.

Even since Matt Lauer fired been another CNN news producer fired. There are multiple people per day which makes little sense to me because supposedly news and entertainment sectors are full of feminists who lean Democratic party, seems it would be a safe space away from all the horrible Trump lovers. Yet.....

You can deal with that yourself when and if your comments end up on Twitter and when and if you get sued. It’s not my concern.

We went over this yesterday. There is no viable cause of actions for defamation. Come on, sport. Your memory is better than that.

The learning curve for some is about 90 degrees.

But they dont want to listen and their carelessness will get themselves sued and/or this site held liable.

Which forum would have jurisdiction? Some of us are not in the US. What harm could Moore claim from us calling him a kiddie fiddler, which he is?

Not to mention the witnesses we discussed yesterday that would likely convince a jury that Moore is a kiddie fiddler, which would raise the absolute defense of truth.

You really should leave the legal speculation/advice to lawyers.

NBC's decision to can Matt the pervert instead of a protracted investigation seems to be a financial one. It has been hemmoraging money all year long and the company brass must have been concerned of impending lawsuits now that more women are coming out to speak out against him.

They should change its symbol from a peacock to a dodo bird because the way things are going for them they will soon become extinct. . . .

No, Moore's a kiddy fiddler. Absolute pedophile.

No more so than Conyers or Franken......alleged all of them until proven otherwise, now in the eye of public opinion, you can call him any name under the sun, I do for certain politicians....

Lauer spent decades preaching from high atop his TV soapbox about how men should treat women with respect. Now that he's been exposed as a creepy pervert, it makes him one of U.S. television's greatest hypocrites.

Kinda Funny how just recently, he interviewed Bill O’Reilly about his sexual allegations. Ironic how this all ended up and who knew? It was a complete shock, but here is the funny part in all of this. When Ailes and then O’Reilly were ousted from FNC, all the big lib networks were screaming that FNC has a perverse sexual and abusive culture and needs to be rooted out, the network is going down in flames, how will they survive the scandal and now, some of those critics themselves that were preaching and speaking from the back of their necks have their own chickens that came back to roost and they weren’t light weights either. Rose and Lauer were the face of their networks CBS, NBC and PBS like O’Reilly was to FNC.

And you know it’s not over yet. Liberals love to criticize and then once they find out their own closet has A bunch of bones in them, they seemed shocked and disoriented.

But so many liberals caught up in this.....astonishing. Once again, they can’t say Jack.

If he had worked for any other media organization other than the Peacock Network, he would slither under a rock and never be seen nor heard from again. But, watch for him to pop up on MSNBC sooner or later. . . .

I don’t even think Lauer could handle the quacking of Mika and her deadbeat husband 2 million or not.

No more so than Conyers or Franken......

The allegations against these two came from individuals that had reached the age of majority at the time the alleged incidents occurred. Moore, on the other hand, was molesting individuals who had not reached the age of majority, even if they had reached the age of consent. And again, consent only provides legal protection if it was given.

When Ailes and then O’Reilly were ousted from FNC, all the big lib networks were screaming that FNC has a perverse sexual and abusive culture and needs to be rooted out

The culture at FNC was clearly sexually perverse and abusive given Megan Kelly (I know you will start railing on her now that she is at a network you deem liberal, so save your breath.) so stated and the head of the network was ousted for sexual harassment.

Since Moore was preying on individuals that had not reached the age of majority, i.e., children, he is a kiddie fiddler.

The allegations against these two came from individuals that had reached the age of majority at the time the alleged incidents occurred.

So let me get this straight, there are different levels of a sexual predator, so if you are an adult it’s not as bad as if you are a child? Or does it make a difference if you are a Conservative vs a liberal? For a liberal, it’s more like a honest harmless mistake, if it’s a Conservative there must’ve been some sort of deviant, malicious intent??

Dear Lord......Yup...now I understand why the Dems lost over 1000 legislative seats..

Moore, on the other hand, was molesting individuals who had not reached the age of majority, even if they had reached the age of consent. And again, consent only provides legal protection if it was given.

Kind of like saying, shooting you with a 22 is different from shooting you with 9mm. The point is, when you are in the hospital to the doctor, you got shot. Someone used a firearm on you. It doesn’t matter, there is absolutely NO difference between Conyers, Moore or Franken or even Lauer and O’Reilly for that matter, they are alleged predators. No different and all the same if the allegations are true.

The culture at FNC was clearly sexually perverse and abusive given Megan Kelly (I know you will start railing on her now that she is at a network you deem liberal, so save your breath.) so stated and the head of the network was ousted for sexual harassment.

Yes and now that same culture is shown to be at NBC, CBS as well as CNN. Again, the chickens are coming home to roost, pay back is a.....

Lol

So let me get this straight, there are different levels of a sexual predator, so if you are an adult it’s not as bad as if you are a child?

No, all sexual predators are equally repugnant. However, there are different labels for different types of sexual predators. For instance, Moore is a kiddie fiddler, whereas G.W. Bush, Ailes, O'Reilly, et. al are not kiddie fiddlers.

Or does it make a difference if you are a Conservative vs a liberal?

No, it does not make a difference. The difference is liberals call all predators out, whereas conservatives seem to stick with conservative predators until the last possible moment.

For a liberal, it’s more like a honest harmless mistake, if it’s a Conservative there must’ve been some sort of deviant, malicious intent??

Whether it was a mistake or there was deviant, malicious intent is not dependent upon political persuasion.

Dear Lord......Yup...now I understand why the Dems lost over 1000 legislative seats..

This is completely irrelevant, but I know it is your fallback "jab."

there is absolutely NO difference between Conyers, Moore or Franken or even Lauer and O’Reilly for that matter, they are alleged predators.

There is a difference between Moore and the rest. Moore preyed upon individuals where were legally not adults. By your logic, an adult that gets into a fight with another adult is the exact same as an adult that gets into a fight with a child. That is very flawed logic.

Yes and now that same culture is shown to be at NBC, CBS as well as CNN.

No, it isn't. When it is shown that NBC, CBS, and CNN protected predators that worked for them, ignored the complaints of the victims, and the heads of the networks engaged in sexual harassment; then you can honestly say the culture is the same as it was at FNC.

Again, the chickens are coming home to roost, pay back is a.....

Payback for what?

Lol

There is absolutely nothing funny about this topic.

No, all sexual predators are equally repugnant.

Exactly!

No, it does not make a difference. The difference is liberals call all predators out,

Clinton, Wiener, Franken, Conyers, not called out immediately it took awhile and Clinton still nothing after 25 years.

whereas conservatives seem to stick with conservative predators until the last possible moment.

Yes, the GOP love Moore so much, I can see the love and support he gets from them. Lol

Whether it was a mistake or there was deviant, malicious intent is not dependent upon political persuasion.

Oh, yes it does, most definitely.

There is a difference between Moore and the rest. Moore preyed upon individuals where were legally not adults. By your logic, an adult that gets into a fight with another adult is the exact same as an adult that gets into a fight with a child. That is very flawed logic.

No, there is zero difference, a sexual predator is a sexual predator, a rapist is a rapist whether he was a gentleman or not if the woman said no, then it was against her will. A murderer is a murderer. We can’t define things on how we see them, but for what they are.

No, it isn't. When it is shown that NBC, CBS, and CNN protected predators that worked for them, ignored the complaints of the victims, and the heads of the networks engaged in sexual harassment; then you can honestly say the culture is the same as it was at FNC.

Hey, they all had sex predators, the lib networks complained and berated FNC and now their chickens came home to roost and now they had get rid of their biggest money makers. Hypocrites, but at least the heads took action at all is something to be admired. But they can’t say Jack now.

And what about an 88 year old perv and a washed up failed SNL actor?

But at least one good thing came out of Lauer’s firing of this, Ann Curry must be dancing on the ceiling. She must be ecstatic. Kudos!

Whether it was a mistake or there was deviant, malicious intent is not dependent upon political persuasion.

Oh, yes it does, most definitely.

Huh?

No, there is zero difference, a sexual predator is a sexual predator, a rapist is a rapist whether he was a gentleman or not if the woman said no, then it was against her will. A murderer is a murderer. We can’t define things on how we see them, but for what they are.

Yes, a sexual predator is a sexual predator. However, the labels that can be affixed to people who prey on children, like Moore, and people who prey on adults, like Ailes and O'Rielly, are different. Moore is a kiddie fiddler, Ailes and O'Reilly are just predators.

Hey, they all had sex predators, the lib networks complained and berated FNC

Yes, they did. But only FNC had a culture of it and the head of the network participated. That was the original issue we were discussing, not whether they all had predators.

Yes, a sexual predator is a sexual predator. However, the labels that can be affixed to people who prey on children, like Moore, and people who prey on adults, like Ailes and O'Rielly, are different. Moore is a kiddie fiddler, Ailes and O'Reilly are just predators.

Ok, so there really isn’t a difference, they’re all sexual deviants if the allegations are true of these men.

Yes, they did.

Actually, they did not, they Sheltered these people and made it as if it were so clean and perfect and now their brick house is crumbling. Schadenfreude.

But only FNC had a culture of it and the head of the network participated. That was the original issue we were discussing, not whether they all had predators.

And it seems like the same thing is going on as well, because no one was mentioning anything about it and they knew they had to get ahead of the story before a deeper scrutiny of suspicion falls of their heads.

Moore chased after young girls

This is different. .Work area environment. NBC wanted employees work comfortably. All day long, all prooograms have discussions since yesterday morning.

another Franken accuser, thats 5 now. Conyers has 4 and Lauer has at least 3. More to come.

I see Rosie has her take on the developing story.

http://www.newsweek.com/rosie-odonnell-calls-donald-trump-child-rapist-726784

Thanks for the running count. What’s the grab’embythe-in-chief at ? 16 or so?

zero active cases. so zero. but thanks for playing.

He is not going to be paid anything, He admitted allegations and he is fired. NBC has been using all their programs to let viewers know he is. fired. Politicians have choice to stay. But people who work in private sectors can get fired.

Actually, they did not, they Sheltered these people and made it as if it were so clean and perfect

Prove it.

And it seems like the same thing is going on as well, because no one was mentioning anything about it and they knew they had to get ahead of the story before a deeper scrutiny of suspicion falls of their heads.

There is no evidence that there had been previous complaints that were disregarded at any network other than FNC. It's not surprising that this happened at FNC given the head of the network and its biggest star were both serial predators.

zero active cases. so zero. but thanks for playing.

Same with Al Franken. Oh, by the way: There is this one nagging little defamation suit going on here.

https://www.vox.com/identities/2017/10/17/16483946/summer-zervos-donald-trump-defamation-lawsuit-subpoena

Thanks for playing. ;)

At least 16 accusers and plenty of admissions. Thanks for playing.