Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu kicked off a U.S. trip in California to talk to billionaire businessman Elon Musk about antisemitism on his social media platform X — while Musk asked him to address his judicial overhaul in Israel. The two also discussed artificial intelligence in a sparsely attended livestream event Monday.
Netanyahu's high-profile visit to the San Francisco Bay Area comes at a time when Musk is facing accusations of tolerating antisemitic messages on his social media platform, while Netanyahu is confronting political opposition at home and abroad. Protesters gathered early Monday outside the Fremont, California, factory where Tesla makes its cars.
The official agenda was to consider artificial intelligence, with Netanyahu and the Tesla CEO mostly in agreement on the need to weigh the technology's benefits against its societal risks. Netanyahu said controlling more-advanced AI must start by getting like-minded states to agree to a code of ethics and conduct to foster the technology and “curb the curses.” But he said there will still be a need to “police the planet” against rogue actors.
The freestyle conversation, which included jokes from both men, soon turned to free speech and antisemitism, with Netanyahu telling Musk he hopes that within the confines of the First Amendment he can find a way to roll back antisemitism and other forms of hatred on his social media platform.
"I encourage you and urge you to find the balance. It’s a tough one,” Netanyahu said.
Musk said that with 100 million to 200 million posts on X in a day, “some of those are gonna be bad.” He reiterated the platform's policy to not promote or amplify hate speech. Under Musk, the former Twitter changed its rules so that objectionable posts are not usually removed, but instead their visibility is limited so people have to seek them out if they want to see them. Musk calls this “freedom of speech, not freedom of reach.”
Musk is facing accusations of tolerating antisemitic messages on X. The Anti-Defamation League, a prominent Jewish civil-rights organization, has accused Musk of allowing antisemitism and hate speech to spread on the platform. Its director, Jonathan Greenblatt, said Musk had “amplified” the messages of neo-Nazis and white supremacists who want to ban the league by engaging with them recently on X.
In a Sept. 4 post, Musk claimed that the league was “trying to kill this platform by falsely accusing it & me of being anti-Semitic.” In other posts, he said the league was responsible for a 60% drop in revenue at X. The ADL was among a coalition or groups that urged companies last year to pause their advertising on Twitter after Musk bought the platform. But analysts who track Twitter have argued that Musk’s chaotic changes to the platform — including jettisoning its well-known brand name — have led to a decline in interest from advertisers.
The group met this month with X's chief executive, Linda Yaccarino. Both Musk and Yaccarino have recently posted messages saying they oppose antisemitism.
On Sunday, however, Musk posted that George Soros’ organization “appears to want nothing less than the destruction of western civilization.” Soros, 93, has donated billions of dollars of his personal wealth to liberal and anti-authoritarian causes around the world, making him a favored target among many on the right. The Hungarian-American, who is Jewish, has also been the subject of anti-Semitic attacks and conspiracy theories for decades.
Netanyahu’s visit was unusually Musk-centric for a world leader and was scheduled to include a demonstration of self-driving technology. Silicon Valley itineraries for visiting political dignitaries typically also include major tech companies such as Apple, Google or Meta.
From California, Netanyahu heads to New York, where he is scheduled to address the United Nations General Assembly and meet with President Joe Biden and other world leaders, his office said. They include German Chancellor Olaf Scholz, Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan and Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy, as well as South Korean President Yoon Suk Yeol and U.N. Secretary-General António Guterres.
Hundreds of thousands of Israelis have taken part in nine months of demonstrations against Netanyahu’s plan to overhaul Israel’s judicial system. Those protests have spread overseas, with groups of Israeli expatriates staging demonstrations during visits by Netanyahu and other members of his Cabinet.
Some gathered Monday outside the Tesla factory in Fremont for a demonstration organized by UnXeptable, founded by Israeli expats to support democracy in Israel.
Protest organizer Offir Gutelzon said that by visiting the San Francisco Bay Area, Netanyahu is “trying to show business as usual. Back home he’s tearing apart the country.”
“We have to come and show our support and solidarity for our brothers and sisters in Israel, who are protesting every week for the last seven months,” Gutelzon said.
Noting the protests and citing pushback he'd received for hosting the prime minister, Musk on Monday asked Netanyahu to speak about the overhaul.
Netanyahu has said the judicial overhaul plan is needed to curb the powers of unelected judges, whom he and his allies say are liberal and overly interventionist. Critics say his plan is a power grab that will destroy the country’s system of checks and balances and push it toward autocratic rule.
Leading figures in Israel’s influential high-tech community have played a prominent role in the protests. They say weakening the judiciary will hurt the country’s business climate and drive away foreign investment. Israel’s currency, the shekel, has plunged in value this year in a sign of weakening foreign investment.
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Sh1mon M4sada
I admire Musk for his ability to innovate and do for America (and the world) what no one else can for the last 40 years, ie transportation, energy, space exploration....
However, I doubt that his busy schedule and workload can afford him the time and effort to balance free speech with other speech, properly. There is a limit to everything, even speech, that's why we have racial vilification laws, libel laws etc., the way Musk wants to manage freespeech is just as extreme as Agrawal, just at the opposite end. Yes, I've seen the blatant anti LBTG...hate on X in recent times that normally would have solicited a libel suit had the victim been able to afford to sue.
Musk need to do better, but I doubt he has the time, so I'm waiting for Yaccarino to step up and manage the town square that Musk so desires.
dagon
I suspect there have been other factors to cause this, including Musk's own decisions.
Musk's forays into Geo-politics are showing a serious deficit of judgement like with some of his other ventures.
He should remember he is not one of the sentient starship AI Minds from Iain Banks' Culture series, whom he says he draws inspiration from, which could manage vast systems and trillions of individuals.
Sh1mon M4sada
...to be fair Musk doesn't need to 'manage' individuals. He just have to have a system in place that can balance the difference between freespeech and maligned speech. IMHO, he doesn't realise, so far, that maligned speech is just as bad for his town square as suppression was under Agrawal, and I'm even anticipating that there might even be law suit against X in the near future, because libel etc. are usually remedied in a court, if you have the financial capacity to do so.
Paustovsky
So blaming stuff on Soros is not just for idiots, it is also for the idiot savant.
2020hindsights
Sh1mon M4sada
Not sure what you are implying here. Moderation under Agrawal was very good.
Under Musk, it's a liability for the firm.
Mr Kipling
Same old.... Zionist playbook 101....... Anyone criticizing Israel is an antisemit.
Sh1mon M4sada
...eh? You need to roll that round rock out of the way, and read some of the news, even mainstream media news. Under Agrawal Twitter was actively suppressing and creating false narratives, for a political outcome.
2020hindsights
Sh1mon M4sada
Moderation under Agrawal was very good.
No they weren't.
Sh1mon M4sada
talk to Taibbi.
2020hindsights
Sh1mon M4sada
No they weren't.
Taibbi's got nothing:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a597e6Wv_xg&list=TLPQMTkwOTIwMjM2PJJGk5IbJQ&index=4
wolfshine
Funny how little people were concerned when under Jack Dorsey, Twitter was used as an ISIS recruitment tool or as a place for Antifa to organize riots like the Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone. I mean - it was absolutely out of control back then, and the moderation was both absurdly and openly biased.
The people that hate X now loved the echo chamber it was five years ago. They never cared what risks it posed to society at large. But now that the majority of people on X reject Christophobia, Covid politics, and pornographic material, they're trying to claim it's Anti-Semitic. There are Anti-Semites on every platform - TikTok, Facebook, and YouTube included.
There is no reason to single out X - they are only doing so because Elon's platform has done a better job of guaranteeing free speech than any other platform.
wallace
Elon X said he was considering charging all people to use X.
wolfshine
You'd actually be surprised what wonders setting up a paywall can do for a platform, though. Long ago, the forum "SomethingAwful.com", well credited for pioneering much of what we consider meme and internet culture, once faced this axiom. By making users pay a one time credit card fee for the privilege of posting, they effectively filtered out an overwhelming majority of potentially underage users and undesirable content. This preserved the quality of posts on the boards, allowing the forum to flourish for a really long time.
Now with that said, I am probably not going to continue using X if Elon implements a monthly subscription model - that would kill the platform. He needs to stay the course and resist calls to censor in a biased manner.
wallace
I'm an ex of X.
wolfshine
Good for you. Nobody's forcing you to be on X, or anyone else for that matter.
But I think for those of those of us that want to use it, we should have the right to. If the ADL doesn't like the platform, then perhaps they ought to bugger off. And if they are going to continue pressuring advertisers to drop X, especially on X itself, I think the people in charge of the platform are well within their right as a private company to revoke their access. I mean, that's how it works, right? Them being a private company and all?
wallace
Why? It's a private business and you have no rights.
Elon X said charging for the site was the only way to deal with the millions of Bots.
GBR48
Xitter will no longer be an issue when it is paywalled. The user base will collapse. It will be no use as a global notice board as so few people will see it. If you have an alternative, preferably a distributed one, now is your chance.
2020hindsights
GBR48
Mastodon.