New charges brought against ex-Trump campaign associates

Keep 'em coming, Mr Mueller. Thank you for your service to America.

. . . and all of a sudden Trump forgot about school shootings . .

I guess when the investigation just keeps on giving and giving and giving, and providing even more charges, it's hard to pretend reality is something it's not. Or rather, it must be starting to get to the point where they realize just how silly they look trying to proclaim something everyone can see is false.

The noose keeps drawing a little tighter.

The charges against Manafort and Gates don't relate to any allegations of misconduct related to Trump's campaign.

The charges against Manafort and Gates don't relate to any allegations of misconduct related to Trump's campaign.

Ok. So what?

CNN is honest for once:

“They were able to defraud banks because of the tens of millions of dollars they earned doing Ukrainian political work and lobbying from 2006 until 2015, the prosecutors allege.”

“Manafort could testify about any potential crimes he witnessed during Trump's presidential campaign -- if any occurred.”

must be new writers, they have never admitted there might not be any crimes before.

The charges against Manafort and Gates don't relate to any allegations of misconduct related to Trump's campaign.

32 new charges. 32. I'm loving this. Trump definitely hired the best crooks, I mean people. ;)

Are you not going to answer my question Blacklabel?

Ok. So what?

The new indictment accuses Manafort and Gates of doctoring documents to inflate the income of their businesses and then using those fraudulent documents to obtain loans. It also accuses Manafort of evading taxes from 2010 through 2014 and in some of the years concealing his foreign bank accounts. -- article

Heh, more alleged skullduggery years before Mr. Trump announced his candidacy for the 2016 presidential race.

Perhaps someday Mueller will issue an indictment pertaining to the issue he was originally hired to investigate: collusion with Russia to alter the 2016 presidential results by either candidate . . . .

Heh, more alleged skullduggery years before Mr. Trump announced his candidacy for the 2016 presidential race.

Ok... what's your point?

Perhaps someday Mueller will issue an indictment pertaining to the issue he was originally hired to investigate: collusion with Russia to alter the 2016 presidential results by either candidate . . . .

Perhaps. If it happens, it will likely be the last charges that come out of the investigation. You weren't expecting said charges to come earlier, were you? And if you were, whatever led you to that silly expectation?

Perhaps someday Mueller will issue an indictment pertaining to the issue he was originally hired to investigate: collusion with Russia to alter the 2016 presidential results by either candidate . .

That's not what the Mueller mandate says. "Any and all crimes," I, believe was the phrase used. 32 new charges is a lot. Why do you reckon Mueller is screwing the pressure on Manafort and Gates? Who do you think he's trying to flip them on? These investigations take awhile, no sense in getting antsy, partner. Yeehaw. ;)

Well done Mueller! Nail these traitors to the wall. I would have loved to see Manafort's punchable smirk disappear at the news. That would have been too hilarious

"So what" is a....question? Thats usually what people say when they have nothing to say.

Ok "so what?". So it means that this has nothing to do with Trump whatsoever, Even CNN has decided to keep pushing their gun control narrative instead of this "Trump and Russia" nonsense.

Ok "so what?". So it means that this has nothing to do with Trump whatsoever

Ok, and?

You do realize how investigations work, don't you? If you don't, let me know, and I'll be happy to review it with you.

I hope this keeps building, I need to see "BREAKING: Mueller recommends Trump indictment on 600 counts of money laundering"

I need to stock up on popcorn. This will be a very long and satisfying session once it starts.

Even CNN

Your obsession with this outlet is getting worse. You must watch it pretty much non-stop.

Your obsession with this outlet is getting worse. You must watch it pretty much non-stop.

I'm starting to wonder if the viewer base for CNN isn't just a bunch of Fox "News" viewers. I don't actualy know anyone that watches CNN myself (or if they do, they don't talk about it).

Wouldn't that be the ultimate trolling.

I don’t watch it. I simply view the top articles on the main page to get the liberal and anti-trump talking points. Then I research those to see if they are lying or not.

this morning they cared that trump called Oprah insecure a week ago, but no one cares so they dropped it. Manafort quite far down the page without Trump name in the headline so means no one cares either. It’s all guns guns guns now.

I don’t watch it. I simply view the top articles on the main page to get the liberal and anti-trump talking points. Then I research those to see if they are lying or not.

That doesn’t explain your ability to know exactly what CNN ior other elements of the MSM didn’t say. That’s an enormous task which must take up a lot of time.

You are not getting this information about what the certain elements of MSM didn’t say from other elements of the MSM, are you?

I'm really concerned that CNN may not be covering the arrest of Missouri Gov. Eric Greitens diligently enough. Blacklabel, could you pop over there for a quick read, research all the sources, and then come back here with your searing hot take on the story? Thanks beforehand.

CNN doesnt seem to care too much about it, its a minor story because they are pushing other narratives.

Fox News on the other hand, major story even though it is a Republican. Fair and Balanced.

MAGA

Manafort and Gates again.

Foreign lobbying, eh?

Yeah from 2006-2015 sure. Involving Ukraine (not Russia). When they worked with a guy named Podesta (not Trump).

Well they haven’t been found guilty yet and the Gates guilty plea seems to be untrue so wait and see

Fox News on the other hand, major story even though it is a Republican. Fair and Balanced.

I see. The acceptable face of the MSM.

Is that where you get your news on what CNN and other less acceptable faces of the MSM don’t report?

Be a bit careful with Fox. They do have a bit of history of fair and balanced fake news.

If the charges are true, that means Manafort and Gates were a huge financial beneficiary of pro-Russian interests of Ukraine politics. Financial records indicated that Manafort was in debt to pro-Russian interests by up to $17 million prior to joining Trump’s campaign.

In addition to the previous Alex van der Zwaan, the wealthy Russian lawyer charged with making false statements to the FBI during Mueller's investigation and who pleaded guilty Tuesday afternoon. Van der Zwaan's guilty plea will likely help Mueller build his case against Manafort.

(Manafort was responsible for commissioning a report that Van der Zwaan worked on which was designed to justify the trial of former Ukrainian prime minister Yulia Tymoshenko to the US. At the time, Manafort was also consulting for Tymoshenko's rival, Ukraine's pro-Russian president Viktor Yanukovych.)

Blacklabel: CNN is honest for once:

You paste more links to CNN or reference "even CNN says" more than anyone else here.

Yep I do. It’s the only news source liberals never dispute. (Yet also the most fake one coincidentally?)

It looks more like a situation where you claim bias and fake news when the story is not to your liking, then you turn around and use them as a source when the story is to your liking.

This looks more like an indictment of the corruption of Ukraine. Which was conveniently left out this MSM article. Yep, that would lead back to Obamas coup and Hillary's State Dept. I guess that's why every headline has "ex-Trump" in it. Oh this fake news is so easy to spot these days.

This looks more like an indictment of the corruption of Ukraine. Which was conveniently left out this MSM article.

So to get this straight, your idea of quality reporting is to try to infer and speculate about what the meanings of said charges mean, without actually having that information?

this fake news is so easy to spot these days.

What specifically was written with an intent to deceive, making this article fake? I mean, I believe you, you are calling it fake, so it must be so, but unfortunately I'm not one of the elite and haven't been given the information about what in the article is untrue, who knew it was untrue, and wrote this untruth even knowing so. I'd really like to be enlightened to this information so that we can expose this article as fake news together.