New Mars study suggests an ocean's worth of water may be beneath the red dusty surface

...Fee-fi-fo-fum..... I smell the bone of a flat earther....

and on the other side of the spectrum... if Musk finds out about this, his Mars colony is one step closer to become true!!!... just need a sixtillion more steps, a working space ship, a realistic plan, resources... but it is a step clores though

"Just because water still may be sloshing around inside Mars does not mean it holds life, Wright said.

“Instead, our findings mean that there are environments that could possibly be habitable," he said in an email."

Realistically, which easier colonizing Mars or Kalahari Desert?

Realistically, which easier colonizing Mars or Kalahari Desert?

More than a million people already live in the Kalahari, it is not even a real desert. This is like asking which one is easier to find going for a walk, a guy putting his running shoes or one that has been dead for half a century.

"More than a million people already live in the Kalahari, it is not even a real desert. This is like asking which one is easier to find going for a walk, a guy putting his running shoes or one that has been dead for half a century." @virusex

Well, let's try somewhere else, how about a place like, Danakil Depression in Ethiopia.

Well, let's try somewhere else, how about a place like, Danakil Depression in Ethiopia.

Just randomly choosing places without even researching if people live there? why not New York or Australia then?

https://www.brilliant-ethiopia.com/regions/danakil-depression

Despite a seemingly inhospitable environment, the Danakil is the home for nearly two million Afar people across Ethiopia, Djibouti and Eritrea.

It think by this point is clear the colonization of Mars is for all practical purposes impossible, while the most inhospitable places on Earth you could think about have people living there already, the comparison only evidence lack of basic knowledge about the topic.

which easier colonizing Mars or Kalahari Desert?

Considering temperatures, the Antarctic might be a better comparison.

so, we send some people to mars, a sterile planet where we can’t breathe the atmosphere and live in caves again because of no magnetic field?

but there might be water underground!

it’s underground because of no magnetic field.

we’re only on this planet because of, you guessed it, a magnetic field.

I understand Mars has a partial magnetic field. And it used to have a global one like ours. It would seem helpful if we could learn more about what happened, just in case the same thing happens here one day. And would it it not be a little reassuring if we could find a way for people to survive on Mars?

here's a radical idea. how about we find a way to live in peace and prosperity here?

here's a radical idea. how about we find a way to live in peace and prosperity here?

Any suggestions? I totally agree with finding a way to live peacefully. But we seem to be going backwards. I have images of people sailing away to Mars in the same way they sailed to America in the past.

A bit of engineering, some advertising, and people will be signing up for Martian hot springs. Then we have Martian goldfish ponds, Martian rock omiyage, etc. This could be big...

Drilling to 7+ miles with pipes that can be used to bring the water close to the surface will require hundreds, if not thousands, of Starship cargo trips. So close and yet so far.

Humans living anywhere on Earth will have it 1000x easier than on Mars. Isn't that obvious? There's no oxygen+nitrogen air on Mars.

On Earth, just step outside on the surface, almost anywhere (except Chinese megacities), and there's breathable air. Additionally, cargo to keep life going can be dropped anywhere on Earth in a few weeks. Mars is generally years away and only 9 months away at specific times based on the Mar-Earth orbits. Heck, the Moon is easier to supply than Mars. It is less than a week away, assuming cargo craft are available and can soft land on the surface. Soft landing on the Moon is a huge challenge based on history, BTW. Lots of failures creating craters have happened, even in the last few years.

The reason to go to the Moon is to learn what is needed living in a very hostile environment that's a week away.

The reason to go to Mars is to learn what is needed to live in a place that typically would only be resupplied once every 2 yrs.

Humans need to expand out into the stars or we will be killed off. The more humans are in space on multiple bodies, and the farther away from Earth they are, that's better for the species to last. Like any journey, the first step has to be made, then consistently taking the 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 100th, 1000th, 1 millionth steps are all important to achieving the goal of being a multiple system race. It is an imperative or all humans will be wiped out.

humans will not be around forever anyway. we're frail and all species die off. we evolved to live on this planet.

we aren't as special as we like to think we are.

And nobody crossed the Pacific ocean ... er ... until someone did. If you don't try, you WILL FAIL.

The Earth will cease to exist in about 4B years, if not sooner. The clock is ticking. We need to be off this rock and living in another star system before something catastrophic happens. This is a Darwin test and you are failing. When I lived just a few feet above sea level and I saw a flood hit where I lived, I moved somewhere 950 ft above sea level to avoid that issue. It also doesn't have Earthquake, Hurricanes, and no tornado has hit within 3 miles, since that has been tracked. You can feel free to do nothing and hope for the best. The rest of us want to take action, so our descendants in 1,000+ years are already off Earth. Every few million years (I didn't look it up) there's a life ending problem for the planet. People still here are doomed when that happens. Get 30K humans living at a different planet to start, so we've doubled our survival chances. Get 30K humans living around different solar systems (multiple light-years away) and our changes go up more.

Imagine of nobody settled on the Japanese islands? That trip was a risk when it happened. Getting off the Earth is no different.