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New York state virus toll tops 4,000 with 594 new deaths in 24 hours

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It’s starting to plateau, if not wane.

There is no exponential parabolic increase.

Cue the “wait a few more days” comments we’ve been hearing for the last 4 months.

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There is no exponential parabolic increase.

I’m not a Native English speaker. What does this mean?

It’s starting to plateau, if not wane

Tell that to people in Tokyo.

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RIP to those who suffered. Huge thank you to all medical and emergency service personnel. This thing is a monster and still growing.

It’s starting to plateau, if not wane.

I'll wait until those with expertise and no agenda say what's going on.

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The CDC new reporting format just came out with revised death numbers and comparable with last years flu:

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/COVID19/index.htm

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Why were New York’s leaders so poor? The city makes up a huge portion of America’s infections and deaths. Could it be the behavior of the people themselves that created this highly localized infection hot zone?

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Why were New York’s leaders so poor?

It's an American thing. The people are so strongly individualistic, that the idea of self-isolation and social distancing is too group based (aka socialist) to consider, and therefore even though the virus doesn't give one whit about whether you're a capitalist, socialist, or fascist, the Americans think their right to do whatever they want wins.

This is why Trump waffles so much. On one hand, he's a leader of a nation facing a pandemic of tens of thousands of deaths, and on the other he's facing extreme opposition to doing the right thing (a lock down) because of the political opposition to 'socialism'. For example, there are people in America who thing that you can’t have a government official in a far off capitol make all such decisions for you, because that would infringe on the rights of the individual.

It's kind of like the gun debate. Even though there is no debate to the fact that more guns in society results in way more deaths in that society, in America the right of an individual to own a gun is more important than the benefit to society of not allowing guns, because prioritizing the common good would be 'socialism'.

That's why the initial response in New York was so poor, because the idea of locking down Americans, much less New Yorkers, was too offensive to the rights of individuals... until it got so extreme, that it wasn't offensive anymore.

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The answer for New York's poor leadership is as simple as that of Japan's: the failure to shut down public transportation. Virtually everyone in New York takes the subway. If you don't shut down the subway, what good is a quarantine anyway? HALF of all American coronavirus deaths are in New York and New Jersey. If it was truly poor American leadership, then half of all deaths wouldn't be concentrated in an area with less than 1/10 of American population.

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If it was truly poor American leadership, then half of all deaths wouldn't be concentrated in an area with less than 1/10 of American population.

That's a non-sequitur. Your conclusion isn't logically able to be made from the premise you provided.

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There is no exponential parabolic increase.

What do ya think happens before a plateau?

Here's the graphical charts:

https://ourworldindata.org/coronavirus

Why were New York’s leaders so poor?

NY Gov. Cuomo's approval rating is actually soaring

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/cuomos-approval-rating-surges-poll

New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo’s poll numbers are soaring as he takes center stage in the response to the coronavirus pandemic.

Eighty-seven percent of registered voters in New York state say they approve of the job he’s doing steering the state’s efforts in combating the crisis, according to a Siena College poll released Monday. Even 70 percent of Republicans in New York give Cuomo a thumbs-up on the job he’s doing.

However, as below......................

Could it be the behavior of the people themselves that created this highly localized infection hot zone?

People were stupid for not taking this seriously from the start. They underestimated the virus and overestimated their own infallibility

NY's case is actually similar to the rest of the US

https://www.businessinsider.com/new-york-city-coronavirus-covid19-outbreak-compared-united-states-2020-3

So far, New York City's outbreak has evolved in a similar way to the US as a whole.

It's just that it's all happening in a smaller area. That's what happens when stupidity combined with a dense population, not to mention a melting pot from all over the world, and when there's more cases than there are space in the hospitals

That's why people keep saying "flatten the curve." Once the # of cases exceeds the capacity of the hospitals, it spirals out of control

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If you don't shut down the subway, what good is a quarantine anyway?

The NYC subway is in a limited schedule - the essential workers still need it to get to work

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