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Probably Kiwis and Canadians read George Orwell 1984 at school. They and also aussie have suffered big time with lockdowns, border closes, mandates, no family Xmas etc. of course they are angry.

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It's very confusing @Blacklabel, And doesn't answer my question.

You just seem to blame the 'left' or the 'liberals' for everything.

My political views are centre right but I support vaccines, masks and certain mandates. So, by default you are incorrect.

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Yes, very true. Fauci himself announced this, saying that virus level in the nasopharynx of vaccinated people was "really quite high and equivalent" to that found in the unvaccinated.

That is false, a misrepresentation intended to deceive people, the virus level in vaccinated people that get infected (a lower proportion than in unvaccinated people) and that develop symptoms to a degree enough to look for medical attention (an even smaller proportion) can reach the same levels as unvaccinated people, that is completely different from saying vaccinated people have the same levels in general, which obviously is false.

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@Blacklabel: Why do you assume that all pro vaxxers are liberal? Serious question.

They aren’t.

But nearly every vaccine mandate pusher is a liberal.

I know it’s confusing because the left purposely mislabels people who are against the vaccine mandate as “anti-vaxxer” too.

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The present vaccines DO REDUCE the numbers getting infected and reduce the active viral load

This was true for pre-delta strains. Delta erased most of the effect, and omicron erased all of it

Yes, very true. Fauci himself announced this, saying that virus level in the nasopharynx of vaccinated people was "really quite high and equivalent" to that found in the unvaccinated.

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Liberals aren’t so happy with their previous “people have a right to peacefully protest” narratives right now.

Interestingly, not a single MP is in support of these protesters, left or right.

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@Blacklabel: Why do you assume that all pro vaxxers are liberal? Serious question.

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This was true for pre-delta strains. Delta erased most of the effect, and omicron erased all of it (unless you have a very FRESH booster)

That is false, the effect is maintained very importantly with delta, and there is no evidence that the protection disappeared with omicron.

https://www.eurosurveillance.org/content/10.2807/1560-7917.ES.2021.26.44.2100977

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I don’t know of a council or county that don’t have hepatitis A, B and C vaccines mandate for their plumbers or workers involve in sewage works. Mandate for vaccines involving employees that are exposed to dangerous health conditions have been with us since Vietnam war then Astronauts etc. These idiots are just plan troublemakers and part time trolls.

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Liberals aren’t so happy with their previous “people have a right to peacefully protest” narratives right now.

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The present vaccines DO REDUCE the numbers getting infected and reduce the active viral load

This was true for pre-delta strains. Delta erased most of the effect, and omicron erased all of it (unless you have a very FRESH booster)

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OVID-19 in its Biological warfare labs, as it did with SARS & AIDS

If that is an acceptable post, then I was going to send a Bees&Zeds level disinformation response but stopped myself. Far too much misinformation and disinformation already being spread here and in media of all forms.

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The Canadian truckers have already forced open parts of the country in less than 2 weeks and support for mandates have plummeted.

God bless the Kiwi truckers and may they find the same success.

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Looks like the US produced COVID-19 in its Biological warfare labs, as it did with SARS & AIDS, to hurt China & the rest of the human race, but everything backfired the Anglo-Saxons became the biggest victims of their own evil works.

Looks like China produced COVID-19 in its Biological warfare labs, as it did with SARS & AIDS, to hurt America & the rest of the human race, but everything backfired as the Chinese have been identified for their evil virus and will be held accountable by the world.

Fixed it.

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Seeing as the present vaccines DO NOT prevent transmission nor the symptoms of viral infection then why the mandates?

The present vaccines DO REDUCE the numbers getting infected and reduce the active viral load on those vaccinated who get infected. They SAVE LIVES and help REDUCE HOSPITALIZATIONS.

Completely based on science.

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kurisupisu

Proof of vaccination must also be shown to enter restaurants, sports events and religious services.

Seeing as the present vaccines DO NOT prevent transmission nor the symptoms of viral infection then why the mandates?

Not based on science.

For a start, the vaccine passport system was developed during Delta, so totally based on science.

And while vaccination doesn't 100% prevent transmission, it does reduce it, so it's still a valid policy.

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Looks like the US produced COVID-19 in its Biological warfare labs, as it did with SARS & AIDS, to hurt China & the rest of the human race, but everything backfired the Anglo-Saxons became the biggest victims of their own evil works.

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In general - the protesters all over the world against vaccines look like they have nothing better to do. Ah, Thats right - they don't.

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Proof of vaccination must also be shown to enter restaurants, sports events and religious services.

Seeing as the present vaccines DO NOT prevent transmission nor the symptoms of viral infection then why the mandates?

Not based on science.

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it looks like a bunch of unemployed dropkicks.

I agree - saw pictures on them on stuff.co.nz as well an my first thought was a bunch of idiots who have nothing else to do.

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New Zealand requires mandatory COVID vaccinations for people working in sectors such as health, law enforcement, education and defense, with those who refuse the jab facing the sack.

Proof of vaccination must also be shown to enter restaurants, sports events and religious services.

Realising that these laws save lives and make sense kinda takes the wind out of the sails of these protestors.

One of the positive things about the vaccine passport is that it pushed vaccination rates even higher. And now, everyone are getting boosters.

So far, Omicron hasn't run riot through NZ, but when it does, it will be taking out the unvaccinated. These unmasked, unvaccinated are just endangering themselves here.

They have the right to protest, but I wish the respected their fellow NZers more. Where is the community spirit?

And at the end of the day, they are just copying the Canada truckers, a movement started by QAnon nuts and right wingers.

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"Hey, Ive got an idea! Let's fly the flag upside down, that'll really show 'em!"

Mindless, unemployed anti-vaxxer grubs.

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I was watching the live feed from the Parliament Buildings over on stuff.co.nz. While I agree with them that mandates are an overreach, it looks like a bunch of unemployed dropkicks. Replace the Beehive with the beach, and it'd be the same scene.

"We're here as long as it takes," (Aucklander Sel Currie) said. "It feels very intimidatory here today, it feels like the police are trying to incite violence but it won't come from us."

Three were arrested after trying to breach the police line as supporters chanted "let them through" but officials said the event remained largely peaceful.

Case closed.

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