New Zealand gov't reverses move to introduce bill to lower voting age to 16

A lot of 16 yr olds in NZ are working full time so I think its only fair they have a say in where their tax dollars are going.

Thats one side,

However, the Labour Govt in NZ is not doing it for that reason, they are purely doing it to get the votes they need as its well known that its the education sector, students and teachers etc who support Labour the most 16-17 year olds make up roughly 600,000 people, a lot of extra votes for Labour

First of all, what makes you, or anyone knows which way 16 years would vote, not to mention most of them would probably;y not vote and they make up a tiny percentage of the voting public that would make no difference even if they all voted one way.

Secondly, NZ is the least corrupt and arguably the most transparent and honest nation and government in the world. People generally do not have ulterior motives (unless they are very conservative).

Your obviously not from NZ, I am and NZ is corrupt. Only a fool would think its not.

not to mention most of them would probably;y not vote and they make up a tiny percentage of the voting public that would make no difference even if they all voted one way.

The younger voter the better he might be manipulated. With the law 16yo-permitted-to vote they would be forced to vote on the wanted side.

It's a bad move to allow voting to captive peoples who are subject to mandatory government indoctrination five days per week in government-run schools.

If you think NZ is corrupt you would be in the tiny (conspiracy-led?) minority I'm afraid.

You must be joking.

Toblerone

If you think NZ is corrupt you would be in the tiny (conspiracy-led?) minority I'm afraid.

You must be joking.

Nope. And neither is Transparency International: https://www.transparency.org/en/cpi/2022

NZ is the second least corrupt country out of 180 countries.

Nope. And neither is Transparency International: https://www.transparency.org/en/cpi/2022

NZ is the second least corrupt country out of 180 countries.

I hate to bust your bubble but Transparency International has got it wrong. If you look at the current education system in New Zealand, you will find - according to statistics "The report pointed to data including a 2020 UNICEF finding that only 64.6 per cent of fifteen-year-olds in New Zealand had basic proficiency in reading and maths." In the following three years it has gotten much worse, probably closer to 75% and the maths is worse still. What it shows is that Labour have allowed our standards to drop, truancy is at historic highs and not dealt with and young people can commit crimes - often at the behest of gangs - knowing that they will not go to prison. Life for the young is great, free lunches and breakfasts at schools, an unemployment benefit of $309 per week minimum- as soon as you leave school . If you got the vote, wouldn't you vote for the hand that feeds you?

Revintokyo

I hate to bust your bubble but Transparency International has got it wrong.

How? Are you disagreeing with their methodology? Explain your claim.

If you look at the current education system in New Zealand, you will find - according to statistics "The report pointed to data including a 2020 UNICEF finding that only 64.6 per cent of fifteen-year-olds in New Zealand had basic proficiency in reading and maths." 

Which has absolutely nothing to do with corruption. It's irrelevant. We are talking about corruption here.