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New Zealand reports highest daily number of virus cases

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By NICK PERRY

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Man those people in NZ are in for one hell of a shock when they realize the virus is here to stay.

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Obviously, not enough people getting jabbed?

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Total deaths are 28, New Zealand is still successful country unlike Japan.

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go back on the NZ threads of months and years ago and see all those who were feting the zero covid theory as the right way and saying NZ was the best. Hopefully they can update us on their views given this latest news.

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NZ has only been delaying the inevitable. Good luck to them.

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More infections than Tokyo what are the Kiwis doing wrong I wonder they need to call Kishida and ask for the Japanese model.

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I think its very interesting the infections are low with the indigenous Maori or you could say samoans.

Good for them

What about the aboriginal tribes ? I wouldn't be surprised if they had natural immunity from covid.

As for the new zealanders better get the Wellington boots out this stuff getting thick.

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go back on the NZ threads of months and years ago and see all those who were feting the zero covid theory as the right way and saying NZ was the best. Hopefully they can update us on their views given this latest news.

Prior to Delta, it worked for NZ, it worked for 18 months, and it worked without bringing the country to its knees economically. Logically, you don't have a leg to stand on to argue otherwise.

The figures tell the story - New Zealand 5 (five) deaths per 1,000,000 of population. The United States, 2,175 deaths per million. The UK, 2,037 deaths per million. The country so many love to hold up as an example of how to do it, Sweden, 1,472 deaths per million. Even Japan, 143 deaths per million.

But now that Delta has arrived, it's time to change tactics. That's what intelligent people do when circumstances change. That's what the NZ Govt is doing.

How is that so difficult to comprehend?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COVID-19_pandemic_death_rates_by_country

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So how is that windmill fight about trying to eradicate a virus that is now endemic?'About as well as chaning the worlds climate by giving more money to third world dictators I would say., It seems the government of this small island nation suffers from a massive case of megalomania and denial of reality.

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lockdown rule-breakers were contributing to the spread of infections

Lockdown rule-breakers are, in my view, one of the primary reasons why lockdowns don’t work in practice / in reality.

The other being (unintended) fallibility of humans to get things perfectly right as a collective.

But they are trying to get vaccinated so kudos for the change of approach, better late than ever it was.

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5 deaths per million so far, but that number will go up almost certainly. Yes vaccination is the right way to go, but remains to be seen if the economy has not been "brought to its knees".

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KaerimashitaToday 02:50 pm JST

go back on the NZ threads of months and years ago and see all those who were feting the zero covid theory as the right way and saying NZ was the best. Hopefully they can update us on their views given this latest news.

I'll bite.

I still think the N.Z. Zero Covid strategy was the best one, and has been wildly successful.

What has brought it undone is a global abandonment of Covid Zero. People and Governments turned out to be just too undisciplined and disorganized to make it work.

Hopefully they keep their amazing success in limiting damage going, and everyone who medically can gets vaccinated.

So my views remain the same.

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Tone it down a bit Nick Perry. 'to eclipse something' means to make something seem much less important. 5 cases is negligible.

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ZaphodToday 03:39 pm JST

It seems the government of this small island nation suffers from a massive case of megalomania and denial of reality.

You're the one who's in serious denial of reality, my friend, if you deny the undeniable statistics on New Zealand's successful fight against Covid for most of the past 18 months. I've provided the link.

So how is that windmill fight about trying to eradicate a virus that is now endemic?

Now left behind, in recognition of the fact that Delta can't be controlled by the same measures that could be used, if you tried hard enough as NZ did, to control the previous strains of the virus over the past 18 months. New Zealand has done that, is they've recognized that the level of control they were after is no longer a viable aim and they've changed their approach. That's what intelligent people in responsible governments do, they look at facts and they adjust their strategies accordingly.

The figures don't lie. The windmill fight continues to be yours, trying desperately to bat away every inconvenient fact that comes up to tell you that you're wrong.

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Ardern and Labour paying the price for a botched vaccine rollout. There are some massive problems on the horizon for New Zealand. Rampant inflation and an impending exodus of skilled people once things are calmer in the UK and Australia.

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I'm not here to argue whether or not the choice to shut off the country from the rest of the world was the best course of action, but I really wonder how a country that is very dependent on tourism and foreign students can shut down, and their economy be running along smoothly. If they were handing out money for people to stay at home, that must have blown a huge hole in the budget! It has happened in other countries that have followed a similar approach, such as Canada.

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Well said @BigYen. Totally agree

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lockdown rule-breakers were contributing to the spread of infections

Well, they might be tired of constant lockdowns for every few cases

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Let me put it this way, when the next coronavirus comes in the future, where do you want to be? A place that managed it well, or almost all other countries that made common sense a political issue.

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The obvious anti vaxxers just have to be plain nasty about everything, that's what I find so sad. We are almost 2 years into this, what it is still a Pandemic and thanks to the work of a few, we are getting there, slowly but surely on a road back to normality. Do we really think no social restrictions, no social distancing, no border closures would have made things better? Not to mention the use of some very questionable repurposed drugs. Australia and NZ certainly started out with the right intentions and had they taken vaccination a little more seriously early in the year before Delta was more prevalent really could have been out of this by now.

What's done is done - but the continual hate from the vocal anti vaxxers is so awful and undermines so much hard work.

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Fine people in NZ, Very well balanced people in my experience.

Earthy, smart and not prone to having delirious meltdowns.

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They migrated there so therefore they aren't indigenous thats my point.

Maybe if they somehow occurred there naturally or arrived 10,000 yrs ago .

They have become endemic to new Zealand as aboriginal Pacific islander origin warriors

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I think the people of NZ need to stay strong and brave and endure these lockdowns and isolation from the outside world for the foreseeable future, and maybe beyond. I think the Australians should also isolate from global travel until the world sees zero cases. I really salute their bravery in doing this to SAVE LIVES. Well done, Aussies and Kiwis! You are heroes.

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Akula

Ardern and Labour paying the price for a botched vaccine rollout.

Really? And yet more people are fully vaxxed that the US.

There are some massive problems on the horizon for New Zealand. Rampant inflation

Yeah, I think the inflation is a worldwide thing cause by supply chain issues. So how is this relevant to just NZ?

and an impending exodus of skilled people once things are calmer in the UK and Australia.

Really? And how did you arrive at that conclusion?

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NZ has a relatively tiny population compared to most developed countries. They should have got their vaccinations done months ago. They should not be in this position.

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GBR48

NZ has a relatively tiny population compared to most developed countries. They should have got their vaccinations done months ago. They should not be in this position.

What? The position where they are more vaxxed than the US?

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The good news about this outbreak is that it will eventually lead to the departure of Jacinda Ardern, the worst prime minister New Zealand has ever had. She looks absolutely exhausted after 18 months of the pandemic.

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Simian LaneOct. 19  02:30 pm JST

Man those people in NZ are in for one hell of a shock when they realize the virus is here to stay.

NZ no longer has an elimination strategy and plans for 'living with the virus' so I don't think they are going to be 'shocked'.

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> Hervé L'EisaOct. 19  02:55 pm JST

NZ has only been delaying the inevitable. Good luck to them.

What 'inevitable' would that be?

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The good news about this outbreak is that it will eventually lead to the departure of Jacinda Ardern, the worst prime minister New Zealand has ever had.

I’m not sure it will. A large group of business leaders nationwide, a group that is normally on the side of National, very recently said that Labour’s greatest asset is Judith Collins. A lot can happen in a couple of years though.

She looks absolutely exhausted after 18 months of the pandemic.

She does look tired, but she’s been working hard on it, no question. I’m not a particular fan of her, and I think she’s made a lot of errors of judgement, but I don’t think anybody else would look in any better way. This isn’t me being supportive of her though. It’s more a lack of support for anyone in opposition right now.

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