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New Zealand police kill man after he stabs 6 people at supermarket

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The victims thank Ardern for being stabbed while the murderer should have been thrown back to Sri Lanka since he arrived then.

There are so many like this one obviously.

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The NZ police force is among the top in the world and this demonstrates it - stopped within 60 seconds of the attack is impressive.

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letsberealisticToday  03:48 pm JST

Jonathan PrinToday  03:43 pm JST*

The victims thank Ardern for being stabbed while the murderer should have been thrown back to Sri Lanka since he arrived then.

There are so many like this one obviously.

The PM said he is well known to the police and she does not know of anyone else as potentially violent. So he was NZ's worst (known) terrorist.

8 ( +14 / -6 )

Too many bleeding hearts in New Zealand who would have worked for this guy to not be deported. In the end he got what he deserved, but not before seriously injuring law abiding citizens. Great to see police deal with this in a summary way so that we don't have to pay for this guy to be locked up for years.

Suspect there will be law changes in NZ to make it easier to deport undesirable non-citizens such as this one.

19 ( +24 / -5 )

Suspect there will be law changes in NZ to make it easier to deport undesirable non-citizens such as this one.

Where in the world can you deport someone just for having dangerous ideologies though?

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Akula

Too many bleeding hearts in New Zealand who would have worked for this guy to not be deported.

We aren't a police state in New Zealand and if you aren't breaking the law, you can't be deported on what you might do.

That said, I think the police were exemplary in containing this event. I hope everyone survives this.

8 ( +15 / -7 )

More trouble in Adern’s paradise. The guy arrived in 2011 and was suspected of terrorism. Immigration isn’t always a good thing.

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What? people are complaining? Too left wing too soft

the police were monitoring him and shot him dead in 60 seconds?

is there a 60 second rule?

I shudder to think of the right wingers solution.

well done NZ intelligence and police.

60 seconds can’t ask better than that.

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She said that by law, the man was not allowed to be kept in prison.

So they could shoot him to death but not put him in prison? Someone needs to be accountable here and not just be so sorry.

-8 ( +13 / -21 )

So they could shoot him to death but not put him in prison? Someone needs to be accountable here and not just be so sorry.

Is that a serious comment?

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Simian Lane

More trouble in Adern’s paradise.

Where was Ardern in 2011?

The guy arrived in 2011 and was suspected of terrorism. Immigration isn’t always a good thing.

Sure. Not always. But the overwhelming consensus is that it is a good thing.

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RecklessToday  04:11 pm JST

So they could shoot him to death but not put him in prison?

Not exactly. He was shot for stabbing people. He couldn’t be put in prison for his thoughts. This is how things work in most western democracies.

Someone needs to be accountable here and not just be so sorry.

Who should be held accountable? The police stopped the attack within 60 seconds because they were doing their job correctly.

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Reckless

So they could shoot him to death but not put him in prison?

Imminent threat to human life? Sure, you shoot him.

Someone needs to be accountable here and not just be so sorry.

For what?

5 ( +13 / -8 )

So they could shoot him to death but not put him in prison? Someone needs to be accountable here and not just be so sorry.

I guess you're saying that the police was actually Reckless?

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Helix

well done NZ intelligence and police. 

60 seconds can’t ask better than that.

Six innocent people stabbed. The government knew this terrorist was an accident waiting to happen. It could have been avoided.

How, Helix, would you have avoided this?

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NZ is not a police state. He was being actively surveilled. Just heard he was a dual citizen. You can’t deport your own citizens.

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For those wondering why he wasn't put in prison despite being charged for possession of a weapon and terrorist videos etc. Please Read this

The Crown claimed his plans to commit a "knife attack" amounted to a terrorist act but a judge said the law disagreed.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/300399197/why-isis-supermarket-attacker-wasnt-charged-under-terror-laws-despite-being-on-watchlist?cid=app-iPhone

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Again absolutely stupid comments driven from some la la la land where killing people for posts apparently is ok. In a functioning society I can say what I want…not do what I want. It’s called social responsibility. There are many, most immigrants are beautiful people. That scum Aussie wasn’t an immigrant. I feel sorry to my heat for those attacked, and thankful the police were on it. Try getting help in 60 seconds in an emergency. It could have been so much worse. Could not be so much better, Blaming the government now then protesting restrictions on your life makes no sense.

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Well done NZ police, they were able to neutralize him in 60 seconds and that shows effective surveillance.

You cannot keep someone in prison due to their ideology, so nothing wrong with their judicial system.

My thoughts are with the injured, hope all of them make full recovery.

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BradleyToday  04:29 pm JST

NZ is not a police state. He was being actively surveilled. Just heard he was a dual citizen. You can’t deport your own citizens.

Unless he is stripped of his citizenship then you can.

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He couldn’t be put in prison for his thoughts. This is how things work in most western democracies..

Well he was on 24*7 surveillance for his thoughts, and western democracies do deport immigrants folks for such thoughts..

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Cricky

Blaming the government now then protesting restrictions on your life makes no sense.

Couldn't agree more!

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She said the man was a Sri Lankan national who was inspired by the Islamic State group

And why not state the obvious..this political correctness will only lead more such type of inspiration..

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letsberealisticToday  04:30 pm JST

For those wondering why he wasn't put in prison despite being charged for possession of a weapon and terrorist videos etc. Please Read this

The Crown claimed his plans to commit a "knife attack" amounted to a terrorist act but a judge said the law disagreed.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/300399197/why-isis-supermarket-attacker-wasnt-charged-under-terror-laws-despite-being-on-watchlist?cid=app-iPhone

Seems the law is an ass, this guy should have been thrown out years ago.

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letsberealisticToday  03:51 pm JST

Suspect there will be law changes in NZ to make it easier to deport undesirable non-citizens such as this one.

Where in the world can you deport someone just for having dangerous ideologies though?

China, for one.

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Jails are full of locals not immigrants. Might be locals statistically need watching.

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NZ is not a police state. He was being actively surveilled. Just heard he was a dual citizen. You can’t deport your own citizens.

Unless he is stripped of his citizenship then you can.

On what grounds?

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Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern described the incident as a terror attack. She said the man was a Sri Lankan national who was inspired by the Islamic State group. She said he was well known to the nation's security agencies and was being monitored around the clock.

Well, obviously not "around the clock", and with free preaching of radical islam in the country, just how many of these "inspired" individuals do they want to monitor? Talk about being unrealistic.

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WilliB

Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern described the incident as a terror attack. She said the man was a Sri Lankan national who was inspired by the Islamic State group. She said he was well known to the nation's security agencies and was being monitored around the clock.

Well, obviously not "around the clock",

How do you think he was shot within 60 seconds, if the surveillance was not "around the clock"?

and with free preaching of radical islam in the country,

What?

-5 ( +4 / -9 )

No matter what happens, some are frigging unhappy!

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The same people bitching about this guy not being jailed for his thoughts are the same people who moan how NZ is a police state because of its COVID restrictions.

Consistent in their hypocrisy.

-8 ( +8 / -16 )

This guy was in jail but got let out. Why? What was the charge?

In 60 seconds he stabbed six people, three in critical condition.

Seems that NZ should ask some questions before giving away citizenship so easily.

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I have a feeling some in NZ will wonder if the prime minster focuses too much on keeping the county safe from COVID. and not enough on keeping the country safe in terms of crime.

Maybe some will think Australia's policy on terrorism is better.

2 ( +8 / -6 )

Chalk another one up to blowback for our reap what we sow meddling to ‘protect’ our interests (remind me what those are). Not content with stumping up all that moolah for a military presence outside our countries, we’re doubling down and importing, potentially, thousands more like him, necessitating the expenditure of more millions, which we haven’t got but just put it on the tab, to maintain around the clock police tabs on people who’d have our guts for garters. Madness, absolute madness!

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@letsberealistic

Result is that this Sri Lankan man had a profile showing he was a threat and that he stabbed 6 persons, 2 seriously.

Reacting in one second or 60 seconds make no difference.

It is a failure since he does not come from nowhere.

You would not be so optimistic/proud if among those injured there was an acquaintance of yours.

That is realism.

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There are people in this world who, by their own standards, and those of their peers, have the best of intentions. They therefore seek to impose their world view on others, while - perhaps unintentionally - ushering in evil. Reality and ideology seldom mix.

I shall leave it up to readers to decide to whom this description applies.

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That just happens if you only make efforts to contain and lockdown the invisible viruses while the visible ones are been given full freedom to develop. It’s not unique to NZ, but there most obvious.

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Jonathan PrinToday  06:36 pm JST

@letsberealistic

Result is that this Sri Lankan man had a profile showing he was a threat and that he stabbed 6 persons, 2 seriously.

Reacting in one second or 60 seconds make no difference.

It is a failure since he does not come from nowhere.

You would not be so optimistic/proud if among those injured there was an acquaintance of yours.

That is realism.

What would you do then?

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If you allow the free preaching of radical islamic ideas ,the dress code the sharia law, halal in your country then you will give power to those radicals and they will try to kill you ,its their goal

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Well monitored but still managed to stab 6 people?

And if they had actually bin as close as possible then nobody would have bin hurt.

A violent attack that was senseless.

I feel sorry for the victims and hope speedy recovery for them.

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Sure. Not always. But the overwhelming consensus is that it is a good thing.

Where was this consensus conducted?. Twitter?

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they knew guy was dangerous.

they could send him back to SriLanka ages ago to reduce security risk for NZ citizens and save money for unecessary "surveillance" which became meaningless as could not stoop guy from his actions.

theay are making "excuse" that guy "could not be arrested",reason...we have guess as she said about this...nothing..maybe because of political "correctness?

NZ gov is fully responsible for what it happened and she have to step down and leave job for someone who is fit for this job of PM.

i feel sorry about victims and also about useless and weak NZ government who did nothing to stop this man.i feel sorry about NZ citizens that they have to patient and feel afraid because of uselss and acytionless NZ govermnet lead by skilless PM

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If your dangerous enough to be under 24/7 survelliance, why on earth are you on the streets?

Its nonsensical. N.Z is too soft. A lot of questions are going to be asked, thats for sure.

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Matt HartwellToday  07:46 pm JST

If your dangerous enough to be under 24/7 survelliance, why on earth are you on the streets?

Its nonsensical. N.Z is too soft. A lot of questions are going to be asked, thats for sure.

What western nation allows people to be locked up for the potential harm they might do?

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If your dangerous enough to be under 24/7 survelliance, why on earth are you on the streets?

I agree. The situation regarding this immigrant under constant police surveillance is just ludicrous. Then he stabs SIX people and the police are praised. Something has gone seriously wrong. Common sense has given way to something horribly sick.

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The same people bitching about this guy not being jailed for his thoughts are the same people who moan how NZ is a police state because of its COVID restrictions.

Consistent in their hypocrisy.

It’s the total opposite, how could you write such a stupid post, it’s alarmist hilarious. The point is that NZ is being easily authoritarian to lock people down for a virus but can’t be enough tough to keep a dangerous person in prison. NZ was tough enough to close its borders for the virus but can’t close them to dangerous terrorists. Instead of that, witch Ardern was more than open to welcome everyone with her stupid progressive dogma.

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So this man was the only one under 24/7 surveillance?

What do they do in other countries?

If somebody is deemed dangerous enough to warrant 24/7 surveillance they just jump the person and not actually put under surveillance?

Seems Im watching too much movies

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I think the government has been very consistent with its low testing so it is easy to extrapolate the real number of positive cases.

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If your dangerous enough to be under 24/7 survelliance, why on earth are you on the streets?

I agree. 

You are getting emotional rather than rational again.

Do you agree with detaining people for what they might do?

There is the usual chest-thumping when things like this happen but very little in the way of practicalities.

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Not exactly. He was shot for stabbing people. He couldn’t be put in prison for his thoughts. This is how things work in most western democracies.

So called “hate crimes” lead to harsher prison sentences. So in the West, your thoughts can have you in prison.

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WolfpackToday  09:04 pm JST

So called “hate crimes” lead to harsher prison sentences. So in the West, your thoughts can have you in prison.

False. Your thoughts of hate can be aggravating factors to an underlying crime which you have committed.

It’s not thought policing, it’s is merely holding people accountable for acting upon those thoughts.

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60 seconds can’t ask better than that.

Good response time.

But if I were out doing some grocery shopping during a lockdown, and got stabbed by a lunatic who had been under close surveillance, I imagine I would be mighty upset about it.

It’s kind of ironic to me that New Zealand has this “strict” lockdown approach to avoiding deaths from Covid virus (but not the flu), yet seemingly gives the benefit of the doubt to a lunatic until he actually starts to stab people, before shooting his arse dead the minute he does.

I would prefer a stricter approach to violent lunatics, and less heavily policed lockdowns myself. I’ll take my chances with a virus rather than a terrorist.

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Well monitored but still managed to stab 6 people?

And if they had actually bin as close as possible then nobody would have bin hurt.

An attacker is always going to have the upper hand initially.

There's a line between monitoring and harassment. Being as 'close as possible,' especially as all the guy was ostensibly doing was going to a supermarket, would be harassment. Grocery shopping isn't illegal. You don't want to give someone grounds to file a claim of police harassment because then you'd probably have to suspend all your surveillance activity.

Also, police have a lot to consider before applying deadly force. Not least of which is ensuring you're not going to shoot any innocent bystanders. This was a populated supermarket, and the P of S was obviously close enough to shoppers to stab them, so perhaps they had to wait for a clear sight line in front of and behind the attacker.

But they put 10 rounds in him so it sounds like they'd been itching to put him down. Glad they did.

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Good work

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Good work? Shouldn’t have let such in and walking around until numbers of victims arise. Doing the contrary, inviting them and wait until they complete their killing spree is the worst work one could imagine.

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