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New Zealand to accept alleged Islamic State militant, 2 kids

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Well, if I had to bet between Australia and New Zealand, I would have picked NZ too.

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How would the “Islamic State” deal with her, if she were trying to return THERE ?

…that’s what you should do with her.

7 ( +15 / -8 )

Return to her homeland with memories to share.

4 ( +10 / -6 )

Madness. Accepting terrorists that have a hatred of western "infidels"?

This will not end well for NZ.

14 ( +19 / -5 )

What a bad move for NZ..

Ardern said the safety and wellbeing of New Zealanders was the government's paramount concern.

If so, then why are they allowing enter an Islamic State militant to the country. ?????...

11 ( +16 / -5 )

NZ is probably the most progressive country in the world.

Love the people and the land, but come on--leave them in Turkey, or lock them up at home.

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not smart not good.

weed will be always weed.you will see in time to come.

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Australia dodged a bullet there. I have always felt that duel Citizenships should not be allowed. If they weren't then this situation could not have occurred.

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pls use correct words.

there are NO "militants" of Islamic state and never been any.

there are terrorists of Islamic state.

they are active in Syria,Libya,Iraq...south part of Russia/Dagestan etc/...no one of them is "militant".

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Turkey is safe place.Peaceful.

Mosque at every corner.

Halal food no problem.

Why they did not stay there?

No one going to abuse them there.

They will fit well to live in turkish society so why NZ?

Any thoughts?

11 ( +15 / -4 )

A new Ardern voter.

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There is a fundamental political foolish naivety in the belief that radical Islamic extremism that drove Suhayra Aden into the grip of terrorism can return to any western country that values freedom and democracy.

To believe that Islamic fundamentalist extremists beliefs can exist in the same space and western democracy is a deranged political progressive ideology.

The children could succumb to a crazed chicken-and-egg principle.

What came first western democratic values, freedom of speech and expression or the hate and poisonous core of extreme Islamic ideology

Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern in a deeply misguided act of political grandstanding, could have foolishly and ultimately put the live of communities at risk

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New Zealand to accept alleged Islamic State militant, 2 kids

But of course, why not. She and her ideology will be a great enrichment to NZ society. I am sure the kids will be taught all Western values.

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MatejToday  03:22 pm JST

Turkey is safe place.Peaceful.

Mosque at every corner.

Halal food no problem.

Why they did not stay there?

No one going to abuse them there.

They will fit well to live in turkish society so why NZ?

Any thoughts?

Excellent insight. Interesting how the libs here don't even dare touch this topic.

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Make it like the UK with Shamima Begum. Strip her of her citizenship.

If she had a good reason to do the things she did, then there's no reason to keep and maintain her. Let her go to a country where she is better off and where the grass is certainly greener. And the government won't have to worry about national security, surveillance, etc..

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Maybe she got tired of LARPing as a terrorist and just needs a good meat pie? Perhaps the life of insurgent wasn't as romantic and dreamy as she thought. Her family came from Somalia, perhaps she could return there...

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Would assume Turkey doesn't want them either. They haven't been too keen to take up ISIS types

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MatejToday  03:22 pm JST

Turkey is safe place.Peaceful.

Mosque at every corner.

Halal food no problem.

Why they did not stay there?

No one going to abuse them there.

They will fit well to live in turkish society so why NZ?

Any thoughts?

Yes, she’s not a Turkish citizen.

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P. SmithToday  04:21 pm JST

MatejToday  03:22 pm JST

Yes, she’s not a Turkish citizen.

She tried to illegally cross from Syria into Turkey, 

Sounds like she had an interest in Turkey.

Lock her up.

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Turkey is safe place.Peaceful.

Mosque at every corner.

Halal food no problem.

Why they did not stay there?

No one going to abuse them there.

They will fit well to live in turkish society so why NZ?

Any thoughts?

Why on earth would Turkey want tens of thousands of terrorist foreigners in their country? This bad rubbish arent Turkeys problem.

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She tried to illegally cross from Syria into Turkey, 

I suspect it has to do with limited options available for traveling to other countries from Syria.

It was not clear whether the woman would face any charges in New Zealand.

Right wing nutters are quick to criticize Arden without waiting for facts to be clear.

If the woman was radicalized and is a threat to the country I hope she is sent to prison and her children taken away!!!

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> KentarogaijinToday  02:02 pm JST

What a bad move for NZ..

Ardern said the safety and wellbeing of New Zealanders was the government's paramount concern.

If so, then why are they allowing enter an Islamic State militant to the country. ?????..

It's called compassion and it's something that is lacking in most of the world's leadership and societies. She was born in NZ but lived her life in Australia. Australia removed her citizenship. NZ has no such law.

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Mongrel Mob, Black Power, Road Knights to name a few, will do more harm than his lady in the short & long term...

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Very foolish move. She chose to go to Syria, she should stay there as she obviously thinks it’s a better place.

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englisc aspyrgend

Very foolish move. She chose to go to Syria, she should stay there as she obviously thinks it’s a better place.

Not quite correct. She chose to go to the Islamic State that existed in parts of Syria and Iraq, not to Assads secular Syria.

Instead of hauiling her to NZ, Adern should have gotten her a visa to Afghanistan, where she will find her worldview accommodated, especially once the Taliban takes control.

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 Strip her of her citizenship

Ardern can’t. If you read the article, you’d see the bit where, under international law, a person cannot be stripped of their citizenship if doing so would render them stateless. The only reason the Aussies got away with it is because they stripped her of citizenship before New Zealand. If NZ had done it first, then Australia would have been forced to take her.

The reason there’s this whole kerfuffle about Shamima Begum in the UK is because the UK is trying to strip her of citizenship, saying she has Bangladeshi citizenship. But Bangladesh said she doesn’t. If it turns out she isn’t a Bangladeshi citizen, the UK cannot legally strip her of citizenship and thus be forced to allow her to return.

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Some crimes are unforgivable. Crimes have repercussions. It would be different for the kids. Normally, I'd say that splitting a parent from their kids should be avoided, but not from terrorists. Their kids should all be taken away and raised by other parents, with no written records of who their parent was to ensure they never meet - not in 5 yrs, not in 20 yrs and not in 50 yrs.

Let her live in Syria or Afghanistan.

Australia was right.

NZ is only right if she is placed in prison and her kids are raised by someone else.

Harsh. Definitely. How else would the terrorist line be broken?

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MatejJuly 26  03:22 pm JST

Turkey is safe place.Peaceful.

Mosque at every corner.

Halal food no problem.

Why they did not stay there?

No one going to abuse them there.

They will fit well to live in turkish society so why NZ?

Any thoughts?

ISIL has been murdering moderate Muslims as much as anybody else they could in the area. ISIL only cares about themselves, period.

“Unfortunately, Australia would not reverse the cancellation of citizenship.”

She chucked her Aussie citizenship in order to join a bunch of fanatical terror thugs. No dice, she knew what she was doing. And Turkey doesn't want those kind either.

 Perhaps the life of insurgent wasn't as romantic and dreamy as she thought. Her family came from Somalia, perhaps she could return there...

Somalia is in a state of anarchy. There's practically nothing for her to return to.

If the woman was radicalized and is a threat to the country I hope she is sent to prison and her children taken away!!!

I agree.

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Fighto!July 26  04:29 pm JST

Turkey is safe place.Peaceful.

Mosque at every corner.

Halal food no problem.

Why they did not stay there?

No one going to abuse them there.

They will fit well to live in turkish society so why NZ?

Any thoughts?

Why on earth would Turkey want tens of thousands of terrorist foreigners in their country? This bad rubbish arent Turkeys problem.

^^^

let me say Turkey is directly involved in conflict in Syria,openly occupiers part of syrian territory and yes its directly involved in support of so called "rebels" aka terrorists so yes-Turkey have to care and take share!

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