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Of course any sentiment that goes against the popular narrative will be shot down regardless of ehat evidence there is for it doubly so as an election is coming up

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Yes, he said it on TV.

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“Farage's critics from across the political spectrum slammed his statement, with many describing him as a Putin apologist.”

Across the political spectrum, except the gammons who’d vote for him. Nobody else takes this buffoon seriously, nor should they.

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It is a fact that Ukraine was provoked by West to cause war with Russia. Initially, there was a proven attempt to cause war by Turkey and Russia but that failed. A pilot was paid money by US to shoot Russian plane, and he did so. The pilot was then arrested by Turkish authorities and jailed. So the plan had failed. Then they tricked Ukraine and succeeded.

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Nigel Farage, leader of Reform UK, criticized for saying West provoked Putin to invade Ukraine

Farage is 100% correct.

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Oh yeah? Well Russia provoked the West into provoking Russia.

Sounds like the argument of a 5-year old.

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Hahaha I hope he knows what he's doing.

It may be the truth but normally someone in his position isn't supposed to be saying that

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Farage has been kissing Putin’s arse for years. He appeared frequently on RT and has expressed his admiration for Putin as a political operator.

Nothing surprising in this sense. There’s a pattern of behaviour here.

Still, you wonder about the timing of this latest arse kiss with an election round the corner. Who’s he appealing to? The average age of Reform voters is over 60.

The perhaps younger conspiracy theory audience are in usual lockstep and have been taught to parrot ‘proxy war’.

As mentioned earlier, the gammons are in the bag.

Broadening his appeal?

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Farage is 100% correct.

He’s irrelevant. He knows it too, but is going all-in on fooling the easily fooled one more time.

Welcome aboard I guess.

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He’s irrelevant. He knows it too, but is going all-in on fooling the easily fooled one more time

He could finally get in the Commons this time though.

Clacton looks to be a three-way fight between Tory, Labour and Reform. Hard to see how an appeal to tactical voting to keep him out could work here.

If he loses, I think his gig of trying to get Trump elected may still be open. I think he’d prefer that. He did explicitly say he didn’t fancy spending too much time in Clacton.

Sounds like he’d be a selfless champion of the constituents. Loves the place.

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At least Putin's toady has no chance of getting in in the UK: Putin's toady in the US, on the other hand, ...

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Getting tired of all the knee-jerk "Putin appeaser" accusations every time someone refuses to express or hold mandatory opinions.

Farage is 100% correct in what he said.

And anybody calling him a "Putin appeaser" clearly didn't listen to his comments -- which means this is yet another case of the media not reporting the news, but telling you what you're supposed to think.

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Bob Fosse:

Across the political spectrum, except the gammons who’d vote for him. Nobody else takes this buffoon seriously, nor should they.

Do wake up. I'm not a fan of his but his party is getting similar numbers to the Tories in the polls.

By the way, he is correct in this point. People are in self-denial. Or naive.

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And anybody calling him a "Putin appeaser" clearly didn't listen to his comments -- which means this is yet another case of the media not reporting the news, but telling you what you're supposed to think

I listened to his comments.

It’s better to check these these things for yourself. Our resident ‘The MSM doesn’t tell you…’ types regularly humiliate themselves by showing they didn’t check what the grifters told them.

They are exactly what you don’t want to be.

Anyway, Farage has had a long history of kissing Putin’s arse. Been doing it for years. Been ridiculed for it.

A shyster.

If he was on here, he’d be creating sock puppet accounts claiming to be a person of colour voting for Reform.

I’m sure you’ve seen these pathetic types.

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Do wake up. I'm not a fan of his but his party is getting similar numbers to the Tories in the polls

Some polls.

Anything above 2 seats would be a major shock.

UKIP had similar ‘numbers’.

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Farage is more of a Trump arse kisser and probably guided by Bannon to do this.

No exposure is bad.

Should get the right wingers aroused.

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Do wake up. I'm not a fan of his but his party is getting similar numbers to the Tories in the polls.

Nope. Similar numbers to the Tories is good? He’s a gurning stirrer, he’ll do as well this time as he did with ukip. How many times did he fail to get a seat?

A few years from now he’ll come out again, do a little dance, pull some pints again, do the celeb jungle again.

Which other political candidate have you seen literally lying in a box full of snakes on TV?

He’s a clown and as I stated hours ago only the gammons take him seriously.

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I can't stand the guy, and I can't understand that some people might vote for him.

On the other hand, I agree that the West bears some responsibility, not for starting the war, but for not taking steps to prevent it happening in the first place. Not speaking out against a coup in a country with an elected government seems pretty bad to me. As I've said before, I see Ukraine's government as bad and Russia's even worse. (I'm guessing most people in both countries are much the same as people everywhere.)

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Private school, city banker, Coutts Customer, pint and man-of-the-people, Farage.

The biggest poo stain on the underwear of Britain.

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Nigel Farage, leader of Reform UK, criticized for saying West provoked Putin to invade Ukraine

Sometimes the truth hurts, sometimes it stings. I guess this one is a stinger.

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Lets view the full interview, the context Farage is being criticized for saying West provoked Putin to invade Ukraine

The Panorama Interview Nick Robinson: Nigel Farage, Reform UK 21th June 2024

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=22sFPyqkSCE&t=1409s

Nick Robinson/BBC has a unique loathing of Nigel Farage...

Robinson at one point close to sneering at Farage, his interruptions closing Farage replying.

Andrew Neil would have been my choice to interview Farage.

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Sometimes the truth hurts, sometimes it stings. I guess this one is a stinger

Looks like the idea of Farage appealing to conspiracy theorists might have some weight.

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Sometimes the truth hurts, sometimes it stings. I guess this one is a stinger.

My ribs are hurting. It’s more of a tickler.

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The point Farage is attempting to get across, with buckets full of hindsight, is the failure of EU/UK to recognise the dangers that despot Putin represented.

When an MEP Farage "warned" of Putin having control over the Europe energy security, blaming Germany/Angela Merkel for its own cynical political self interest, lay gas pipe line for the purpose.

Then the Minsk accords, appeasement that led to Putin invasion.

Ukraine, Russia, and the Minsk agreements: A post-mortem

https://ecfr.eu/article/ukraine-russia-and-the-minsk-agreements-a-post-mortem/

At present this war is Russia Ukraine, the invasion is Putin total responsibility.

Is EU/UK blameless?

The question is containment, Putin views western Europe leadership weak lacking resolve.

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Farage has on a number of occasion stated his admiration for Putin.

Farage own words.

Farage vs Clegg: Row over Russia's role in Crimea - BBC News

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YBqY7U6m5JE

Farage in many respects is his own worst enemy, his past statement were always going to come back and bite him on the backside

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Farage is completely right..

And west is get hurt by the truth again..

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TokyoLivingToday 01:36 am JST

Farage is completely right..

And west is get hurt by the truth again..

Still Putin's War

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The West played Putin.

They made him invade Ukraine.

Putin is the victim.

A hundred thousand Russians have died and half a million Ukranians have died because he was forced into invading.

It's not Putin's fault. He had to do it.

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albaleoJune 22 11:58 pm JST

I can't stand the guy, and I can't understand that some people might vote for him.

On the other hand, I agree that the West bears some responsibility, not for starting the war, but for not taking steps to prevent it happening in the first place. Not speaking out against a coup in a country with an elected government seems pretty bad to me. As I've said before, I see Ukraine's government as bad and Russia's even worse. (I'm guessing most people in both countries are much the same as people everywhere.)

What's even worse then not "speaking out against a coup" is breaking pieces off a country during that coup and then launching a full scale obliteration campaign 8 years later. Also Yanukovych was forming a unity government during the coup but then fled the country, i presume because his scumbag backers abandoned him.

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Under the current First-past-the-post voting, voters cast a vote for a single candidate, so the candidate when the votes are tallied through out the 650 constituency sets it is a winner take all scenario .

Farage has been lambasted, both Sunak/Starmer have jumped on this "interview".

Starmer is scathing in his contempt.

Starmer condemns Farage for Ukraine remarks

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p0Ai6e43vXw

Farage Reform party could well win some seats, low single figure will be a seen as a success.

It took Putin invasion of Ukraine for the UK parliament to fully realise that appeasement has a role to play in the blame game.

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Found it!

Nigel Farage ripped apart after claiming Ukraine invasion is result of EU and NATO provoking Putin!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o2YCtFeCxVU

Farage statement as MEP. EU parliament is where the seed were sown, in todays accusations of being a Putin apologist.

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Useful idiots like Farage would have NATO abandon allies of 20 years just to keep the fragile Putin from having a breakdown.

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I’ve said it before, Farage is a puppet controlled by Putin. Putins goals are to divide and weaken Europe and NATO . He’s used Farage to successfully engineer BREXIT, and he’s meddling elsewhere in Europe to cause divisions.

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The West did provoke Russia by breaking the Minsk accord and entertaining the thought of having Ukraine join NATO, a red line Russia expressed over and over.

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Why are these proceedings now? The West is taking part in this conflict, so they are direct accomplices. And responsibility is now on all countries that provide weapons, provide intelligence, etc.

control their contingent on the battlefield, do not comply with agreements, such as those in Istanbul, etc. Now wait to see how it all ends, not only for Ukraine and Russia, but also for Western countries. The question of who is right and who is wrong is not relevant.

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@CC:It's not Putin's fault. He had to do it.

Exactly, the mighty righty as victim, my favorite justification as said by his followers, paid and volunteer, was Biden taunted Putin, because Biden said he thought Putin wasn't going to invade. Which if true that Putin invaded a sovereign nation initiated and maintained a war there because of a taunt, and pulled out the I'm a victim card to defend himself , then Putin is a wuss, and so are most his followers that want to believe he's strong and savvy. The Chinese invade because of myth based territorial claims, the European 'Christians' went on Crusade because of religious beliefs, mighty Putin because he was 'taunted'. What would happen to a country if someone living there said Putin smelled of elderberries.

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Nigel Farage must ditch the "populist", the "agitator", the "disruptor", the look at me "divisive dissenter".

Leadership requires a clear cohesive policy portfolio, a shadow cabinet with the knowledge and experience to oppose government.

This whole sorry Putin apologist backlash, is all of Farage's creation.

Farage may become Clacton new MP.

However Farage is destined to be the very definition of "the emperor's new clothes" of UK parliament.

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I have viewed Panorama Interview Nick Robinson: a number of times.

Farage never for a moment sensing the political ambush developing, unfolding right in front of him.

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travelbangaijinToday 05:09 am JST

The West did provoke Russia by breaking the Minsk accord and entertaining the thought of having Ukraine join NATO, a red line Russia expressed over and over.

Russia broke the accord by not withdrawing and NATO is allowed to have thoughts counter to what Putie would like.

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nikToday 05:36 am JST

Why are these proceedings now? The West is taking part in this conflict, so they are direct accomplices. And responsibility is now on all countries that provide weapons, provide intelligence, etc.

The West is no more involved than Russia was in the Vietnam war.

control their contingent on the battlefield, do not comply with agreements, such as those in Istanbul, etc.

The "Istanbul agreement" never existed as claimed let alone was signed.

Now wait to see how it all ends, not only for Ukraine and Russia, but also for Western countries. The question of who is right and who is wrong is not relevant.

Then Russia should make its move against the West, if they are so tough.

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Why are these proceedings now? The West is taking part in this conflict, so they are direct accomplices. And responsibility is now on all countries that provide weapons, provide intelligence, etc.

Yup.

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What an idiot, and conveniently for the British people, right before the election.

Nigel, you got the script backwards, buddy. You let the fascist-lover mask slip AFTER you win the election. Or in your case get destroyed.

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travelbangaijin

The West did provoke Russia by breaking the Minsk accord

The West broke the Minsk accord? They weren't party to the Minsk agreements, so it's difficult to see how they broke it.

and entertaining the thought of having Ukraine join NATO, a red line Russia expressed over and over.

And yet Ukraine wasn't threatening to join NATO in 2022, so difficult to see how that red line was crossed.

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albaleo

I can't stand the guy, and I can't understand that some people might vote for him.

On the other hand, I agree that the West bears some responsibility, not for starting the war, but for not taking steps to prevent it happening in the first place. Not speaking out against a coup

There was no coup.

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Quo Primum

Getting tired of all the knee-jerk "Putin appeaser" accusations every time someone refuses to express or hold mandatory opinions.

Well, he is a Putin appeaser by parroting Kremlin talking points.

Farage is 100% correct in what he said.

Nope, he's 100% incorrect. Putin's imperialism has nothing to do with NATO.

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