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Nigeria signals readiness to talk to Boko Haram rebels

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By BASHIR ADIGUN and HARUNA UMAR

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Do you really think for a moment any of these young women have genuinely converted to Islam,

I am pretty sure Boko Haram thinks so.

and that one single one of them wants to stay with Boko Haram,

I don't think that matters much to Boko Haram what the girls want.

that anyone of that has not been molested in some way

I don't think any poster commenting here thinks that.

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These poor women are being used as pawns. Simple fact is they are not going to be the last outrage from this group, whether or not their demands are met. If their demands are not met the world will be forced to witness Boko Haram brutality. If their demands are met then this will just be one case in an ongoing series following what will be seen by them as a winning formula, Essentially they must be crushed but that will be as hard as crushing any of the other Islamist groups around the world that that are rooted inside of communities. Defeated they must be, as among their ultimate aims is the splitting of Nigeria into two states with the north becoming an Islamic republic. It cannot be allowed to happen and as time goes on that state will encroach on others. The fight, despite the cost, must be taken to them now.

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Nat turner:

" as among their ultimate aims is the splitting of Nigeria into two states with the north becoming an Islamic republic. "

Wrong. That is the short-term aim. The ultimate one is to bring all of Nigeria, and indeed the whole world, under Shariah.

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Nat Turner

" You were the one who raised the matter of the young women being released under some kind of deal. "

Yes. I said that those who have not converted (said the Shahada), will be traded. Those who have said the Shada (to stop the gang rape) are now muslim, and there is chance in hell that Boko Haram will trade them. Again, taking girls and force-converting them is not something new; islamists have been doing it for a long time.

" Isaid nothing about unique, but that if any release is going on why should they want to stay with Boko Haram, do you really believe because they've got their kidnappers to believe they have converted that it is genuine ? "

"Genuine" is a meaningless word in this context. Once they converted, they are muslim, period. There is no way to leave islam. Ask any imam if you want.

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WilliB I said "among" not only or "The ultimate" , so while you're jumping up to correct, make sure you fully understand first. As for you saying "The other girls (those who converted to islam) will remain with Boko Haram." I see no reason why they should stay with Boko Haram as they converted to Islam under duress.

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@Nat Turner, you're woefully ignorant of the said method that Willib is mentioning. This same method is being done by Islamic extremists in India as well as parts of Africa. First they kidnap a girl/young woman, rape them, and then depending on the culture the parents of said girl have their family "honor" stained unless the girl is "married" to the rapists. Once that is done, the girl by Islamic doctrine is considered muslim. Its insanely sick, but this happens much more than you would like to know or even wish to imagine. For over 270+ young girls to most likely have undergone this treatment of sexual abuse by Boko Haram means that many young girls minds have been irrepairably damaged for life due to the actions of these types of people.

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Nat Turner:

" I see no reason why they should stay with Boko Haram as they converted to Islam under duress. "

Now try to tell that to Boko Haram. Once the girls have been converted to islam, there is no way back. A conversion to islam can not be reversed, and the converted girls are now property of their owner.

You completely fail to realize that you are talking about dedicated fanatics here.

And don´t think for a moment that what Boko Haram did here is unique. This is exactly what is happening routinely to Coptic girls in Egypt and to Hindu girls in Pakistan. Only the Western media rarely report about it.

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Honestly Dictator why should I be woefully ignorant, when Islam has been reeking havoc on the African continent since the early 600's AD ? I'm ignorant as to why you have to jump in defending WilliB, when I already done see how he's moving provocatively around this website. Do you really think for a moment any of these young women have genuinely converted to Islam, and that one single one of them wants to stay with Boko Haram, and that anyone of that has not been molested in some way ?

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@WilliB You were the one who raised the matter of the young women being released under some kind of deal. i said nothing about unique, but that if any release is going on why should they want to stay with Boko Haram, do you really believe because they've got their kidnappers to believe they have converted that it is genuine ? Further we should be talking about supporting the government and it's allies in their efforts to have ALL of these women freed and not be talking capitulation because Islamists have done it elsewhere, we cannot let their writ run just because they want it to.

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@WilliB I'm not here to offer appeasement, complacency or acquiescence nor even understanding to these murderers and their ways neither do I really have time for their apologists and those who would rather attack myself for speaking out against them. I care not for their idiosyncrasies only for their defeat. Turn your fire towards them not towards me, o.k. (Your comment was not posted because you cannot post two messages in a row on the same thread.) @slumdog Do you have any genuine thoughts of your own about these young women's plight, are or you just here to give your friends moral support ?

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Here is an easy prediction: The Nigerian government will cave and trade some of the girls for captured Boko Haram jihadists. The other girls (those who converted to islam) will remain with Boko Haram.

At end of the day, it will be a win-win-win for Boko Haram: They got the their fellow brothers out of jail, they got more young wifes, and once again the islamic population has increased while the non-muslim population has decreased. Another victory in the demographic war.

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