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No leaving Wales: UK police to enforce travel ban

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What if all these are false positives?

The vast majority of “cases” are asymptomatic. There’s no evidence of any infection other than a dubious PCR test which is prone to false positives, especially if the threshold limit on the test is increased.

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The vast majority of “cases” are asymptomatic. 

What an incredibly uninformed statement.

'Asymptomatic' doesn't mean 'unable to infect.'

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Government and opposite parties have lost the confidence trust and faith of a ever growing proportion of the British people.  

The politicization of the pandemic, especially between devolved governments has played a significant role in the deterioration of public disobedience.

The relationship between Police and public will soon become unmanageable.

The ever-growing number of these so experts daily gushing totally conflicting so called scientific advice, that is shutting down UK core economic sectors all based on flawed modelling and appalling data management/analysis.  

Professor Neil Ferguson, mentioned in the above article predictions have been subject to proven flawed modelling.

Failures of an Influential COVID-19 Model Used to Justify Lockdowns….

https://www.heritage.org/public-health/commentary/failures-influential-covid-19-model-used-justify-lockdowns

Worse still is UK people have railed against track and trace because of fear the access to their smartphone will be either mismanaged or passed on to any number of Government, Police or Security Service vested interests.

Again the political establishment/elite through incompetence have failed to treat UK people with respect, and engage in a fitting manner.

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What if all these are false positives?

Are you saying that people who have had a positive COVID-19 test are false positive? Do you really understand what you are typing?

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Worse still is UK people have railed against track and trace because of fear the access to their smartphone will be either mismanaged or passed on to any number of Government, Police or Security Service vested interests.

No they haven't.

There have been a couple of marches by oddballs against it, but no one has railed against it in significant numbers.

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Hehehe. English police can’t understand Welsh spoke by Welsh police.

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Ah_so

I am not referring to oldball activism, or demonstrations.......

Buy booze but not baby clothes! Petition signed by 35,000 demands end to 'farcical' Welsh shopping rules

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8876181/Petition-signed-35-000-demands-end-farcical-Welsh-shopping-rules.html

Or here....

The Prince's Trust calls for action over lockdown 'lost generation'

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-bristol-54325014

Government cannot enforce the unenforceable.

Publicly warn of the dangers, let the people decide as adults there own fate to the wearing of masks and social distancing.

This from as far back as may......

Coronavirus: US and UK governments losing public trust....

https://theconversation.com/coronavirus-us-and-uk-governments-losing-public-trust-137713

Governments are comatose to the effect of there incompetence to the publics sentiment.

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Are you saying that people who have had a positive COVID-19 test are false positive? 

If the person is totally asymptomatic, as most "cases" are, the only evidence of "infection" is the PCR test itself.

So how do you know they aren't all false positives?

Dr. Kary Mullis, the inventor of the test has publicly stated that the PCR was never intended to be a diagnostic tool, as it's easily prone to false positives.

Due to the nature of the test itself, a cycle threshold of 40 or over will produce a positive result on virtually ever single human on earth.

Some countries have upped their cycle threshold limit for the test all the way to 37, because 34 or 35 wasn't producing enough positives apparently.

The "spike in cases" could merely be a result of a change in the cycle threshold, producing false positives, even for autopsies, driving up the supposed Covid death count.

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Ah yes, Professor Neil Ferguson, the liberal "I effing love science!" left's poster boy. The so-called "expert" who predicted 500k deaths back in March, wanted everyone locked down, and then sneaked off and broke his own quarantine rules to slip a length to his mistress, a married mother of two. What a classy guy.

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Jesus being trapped in Wales. Sounds horrific.

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Jesus being trapped in Wales. Sounds horrific.

I don't think Jesus is trapped in Wales. In any case, there are worse places to be trapped. Wales is a very nice place.

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Except the Welsh people are locked in their homes. Lovely people and country, myself being 25% Welsh. Mother’s mother or nana.

Sad what is happening across all of Britain.

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Buy booze but not baby clothes! Petition signed by 35,000 demands end to 'farcical' Welsh shopping rules

I would sign that - it is absurd.

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Ah yes, Professor Neil Ferguson, the liberal "I effing love science!" left's poster boy. The so-called "expert" who predicted 500k deaths back in March, wanted everyone locked down,

Ferguson is a mathematical epidemiologist. He is no a "so-called" expert. He actually is an expert.

He was trying to model the potential impact of a novel coronavirus if left untracked. Given that it was a novel virus, with a huge amount of uncertainty and that deaths rose to 40,000 very quickly despite a countrywide lockdown, he probably wasn't far from the mark in making that assessment.

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If the person is totally asymptomatic, as most "cases" are, the only evidence of "infection" is the PCR test itself.

> So how do you know they aren't all false positives?

Arr you seriously suggesting that all of the tests for a virus that sometimes has no symptoms are all false positives? It is a ludicrous suggestion.

I'm not going to argue the toss with you about the false positive rate of the test, but rather point out that this is just another of the tedious attempts to downplay the virus from the beginning, from it just being flu, "death with COVID, not by COVID", it's a hoax etc.

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